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Meat_Juice
06-12-2012, 10:29 AM
The most popular raw food protocols mentioned in the raw food community:

1. Beet juice fasting

2. Grape mono-meal diet

3. Lemon/lime juice fasting

4. Carrot juice therapy

5. Centrifugal juicing of fruits(of all kinds)

6. Green juice therapy

7. Banana island detox(mono meals of bananas, from 30bananasaday)

8. Orange juice fasting

9. Grapefruit diet

fastfreedom
06-12-2012, 10:50 AM
I have no experience curing anyone that had cancer, as I am no practitioner of any sort. But through what I've studied it seems to be an ongoing theme that how people who have cancer have gotten ridden of it is by choosing a plant based way of eating. And those that choose raw have the quickest and most benefits. It seems that once a person quits putting the junk in their body and instead begins to fuel it with the foods it was designed for then they heal.

I would also comment that it seems that high fruit allows the body to clean house quickest and gets the body into self repair mode the soonest. I used to think that tons of greens were needed to allow the body to self repair, "a comment I picked up by someone here", but it seems that tons of greens aren't necessary. They're still needed, but only in moderate amounts. Fruit seems to be the winner.

Raw Angel Mom
06-12-2012, 12:45 PM
I would put one word

"Detox"

Whatever help to get there. What you mentioned, will lead to detoxification to different degree, so it seems like a great approach. Many that went with fruit diets and herbs, seemed to have reverse their chronic condition.

Fruits are very purging, very purging, if the person wasn't doing a 100% raw food, i would start with doing that first. You don't want to over flush, if your kidney aren't working right and lymphatic isn't getting drain. Stop doing what feed the cancer is the FIRST step. Meaning, no chemical, no animal food base and just consume pure organic food as much as possible, without forgetting to drink good water.

After doing a 100% fruit or juice and researching, i would seriously consider a water fasting to restore the balance of the GI track. It is an area that is often over looked and is so important.

All the best!

p.s I am not a doctor, please research.

Arky
06-12-2012, 05:32 PM
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Mary Kay
06-13-2012, 07:08 AM
Without divulging all the details, Arky, could you just summarize what they feel is a good protocol?

I personally know two people who got rid of cancer --One by going no fruit. No sugar. She followed Robert O. Young's protocol of alkalizing and using a lot of EFA's - fats in oils, avocados. No overt proteins.

Another did both raw fruits and vegetables. No overt proteins, no fats

I had the potential for cancer. I got a surprise pregnancy at the age of 51. Well at 51, my chromosomes are pretty old/damaged, however two sperm fertilized one egg so the body counted two sets of chromosomes and tried to grow a placenta. This happens in about 1 out of 1200 - 1500 pregnancies. Instead of a placenta, the body only grows cysts. I did a raw juice fast with both fruits and vegetables and greens, and watched my pregnancy hormones plummet the first week, after they had been stagnant for three months. Then after I miscarried easily...my hormones levels slowed way down. This is where most women do chemo, but I continued fasting.

It worked. However, my rosacea never went away during the 11 weeks I fasted. I believe rosacea is candida driven, and that is why I question incorporating sugar via fruit. I did no overt proteins and no fats.

Hippocrates goes no fruit...so do others...

But I have read of/heard of many others that have cured themselves. Being highly alkaline seems to be the winner. Some have even used a cottage cheese/strained yogurt and flax...and the cures run the gamut. But like Raw Angel Mom said "Detox." That seems to be the winner. and there seem? to be many roads to get there.

I personally would not do any of the fruits listed as mono meals in the first post. And being estrogen driven, doing a low/no sugar fruit like grapefruit would not be a good idea, because I have personally experienced my estrogen levels increasing while eating too many grapefruits. Grapefruits shut down the ability of your liver to process excess estrogen.

Mary Kay

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
06-13-2012, 09:57 AM
So many health gurus say so many different things about cancer cures. One of the world's top health places for helping people overcome 4th stage cancer (Hippocrates Health Institute) says that under no circumstances should fruit be used because they have proof (through microscopes) that cancer feeds off the sugar in fruits, and they say that only green juices (especially sprout juices, algaes, weeds and sea vegetables) should be used. But other people claim that they have cured cancer patients on fruit diets (Dr Morse). Who knows what to believe anymore.

Personally l would think the sprout juices are the best way to go because they are freshly and still growing at the time of juicing or eating so they retain their full cancer fighting weapons (phytonutrients). But most fruit and vegetables have far less phytonutrients, so their ability to fight cancer is naturally much less, and given the fact that most fruit and vegetables are store bought, the phytonutrient content is greatly diminished after a week or two of being picked from the tree/ground, so the fruit and vegetables have far far less cancer fighting weapons (phytonutrients). lt is no wonder so many folks fail to overcome cancer on raw fruit and vegetable diets. So this leads me to undoubtedly believe that the Hippocrates way of healing is by far the best way to treat cancer. But beware....some people have failed to be cured of cancer at Hippocrates. So why is that? Well...Dr Brian says that a person must also have a good positive attitude to overcome cancer along with eating good potent foods. lt's not the food at HHI that would have failed the test...maybe the patients didn't like the hard core sprouts and became miserable trying to eat such a hard diet (some people hate that type of foods...weeds, sprouts and grasses and kelp etc).

l find it hard to believe that a fruit diet could heal cancer. Maybe it was the person's positive attitude that really healed the cancer. Then again, what would l know....l can only use my common sense.

fastfreedom
06-13-2012, 11:51 AM
Very confusing indeed. One person says one thing and that they've had success and have found it to be the best and then someone else says the exact opposite. :-0 I've even heard Gabriel Cousens say that fruit was the worst thing for diabetes and then heard him say that fruit is the best thing to get rid of diabetes. AHHHHHHH. So confusing.

I guess I really have nothing of worth to add and just wanted to say that it can get overwhelming in the confusion department when one begins to really dig into researching health.

Oh, well I suppose that I could add that IMO sunshine, clean water, exercise, laughter, positive thinking, enough sleep, are also important to achieve health and remove sickness. And in my experience if you eat right and drink plenty of clean water you naturally want to exercise or move around which leads to being outside enjoying the sun, and all that leads to getting plenty of quality sleep, and a natural by product of feeling better physically is that I began to feel better emotionally and began laughing so much more. I laughed so much one day that the next morning my chest was sore. LOL

walnutty
06-14-2012, 03:45 AM
Charlotte Gerson talks about this in the, "Food Matters" DVD. She talks about that fact that you not only need to get the good stuff in, but you MUST get the bad stuff out or your health will get worse. Basically, that "two things can't fit in the same space". So, unless you make room in your cells by detoxing/cleansing, the good stuff won't be able to get in.

I highly recommend watching, "Food Matters" as this is discussed quite in length.

Personally, if I received this diagnosis I would drink raw, organic greens (juice) and get as many colonics that I could afford and also give myself enemas to ensure that I was not only putting in the best good stuff but also getting out all the junk.

Also, I would demand intravenous vitamin C.

streetsurfer
06-14-2012, 05:01 AM
Why have you not included water fasting, hemp or cannabis juicing, faith in a God, prayer, or the miracles of God's handiwork? He still performs them. Why give the credit fully to various food protocols alone? Foods were created to sustain and heal us by the same power that created us. We were created as being able to use foods as sustenance and medicine. This is told to us in the Bible, and if you are not a believer in the Bible, then it is shown to anyone with a teachable mind, through everything seen in all of creation. Ultimately, I think we were designed with the innate ability to heal ourselves, through many different practices that contribute to healing-food being only one. I am not taking away from raw foods, but lets give credit where credit is due.

A family member was healed through prayer of interstitial cystitis after other modalities did not work.

Some say hemp/marijuana juice is healing cancers. I absolutely believe it can and does, based on what I know about it's compounds, how it helps stop brain inflammation in it's tracks, how it has helped cure fungal outbreaks, and that we have two types of receptors in our bodies that specifically fit some of it's compounds. They being labeled the CB1 and CB2 receptors. I don't think they would be in our system if we were not designed to be able to use cannabis or hemp as a healing modality.

I've not read much on all the various food plans you list, but if I were to contract cancer I would go with jucing including fruits and veggies, and water fasts, and move to an area where I could legally use cannabis as medicine.

I have heard personal stories and read of people that simply water fasted for thirty days at a time and killed off/dissolved tumors. In another case of a person known to me, upon opening up for surgery a previously monitored tumor was gone, to the astonishment of the surgeon....now maybe that was a miracle by God or an effect of being under medical care which may have included fasting before surgery, or a combo. I do know that there was the laying on of hands, and prayers said by many for that young mans healing. That was a friend from my boyhood church who was miraculously healed of a stomach or bowel cancer.

Simply put, raw foods and life are both a miracle, as is the ability for us to heal. Furthermore it is a miracle we haven't entirely messed up and completely lost that ability by our own actions.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
06-14-2012, 10:03 AM
A family member was healed through prayer of interstitial cystitis after other modalities did not work.

For some people that is supposed to work if they pray and concentrate hard and sincerely enough. Thoughts are an energy, and energy can and does heal. Even people who start meditating have been known to overcome cancer.

Raw Angel Mom
06-14-2012, 11:33 AM
For some people that is supposed to work if they pray and concentrate hard and sincerely enough. Thoughts are an energy, and energy can and does heal. Even people who start meditating have been known to overcome cancer.

I have to reply to this because i have witness so many miracles with a simple prayer. The trick was simply to trust, surrender and let go. I had no clue about how to pray but i myself made one prayer once for someone that was given a matter of couple days to live. I knew her sister wasn't ready to let her go even though they were adult. So i made that simple prayer and i asked if this was ok with this person that was dying and the big guy above if this was ok with him, if he could grant another 10 years to this person. She miraculously came back. I made that prayer in spring 1994 and she passed in 2004. This is a very strange coincidence, don't you think? I recalled not thinking that my prayer would be answer but knowing that the big guy could do anything if he wants and i simply surrender with the outcome. I was as much as a chock then the doctors when she came back. Miracle happen, and it is easy and effortless, it isn't up to us how the outcome will be but it is up to us to ask.

Anyway, just to say that if this is a meant to be and it is ok with the highest good, all you need to do really is ask.

I know without question that our body reflect our choices, our ancestor's choices etc... and we cannot denial our body. Perhaps, if some miracles aren't granted the way we wish, perhaps, it is because we are supposed to use what is given to us. In this case, it is live food. We are connected with everything. Our body is the host of our spirit and eating the best food is a way to say that i don't take you for granted and love you. This body is without question manificient and a miracle itselve for keeping us alive this long regardless these toxics food, polution etc... that we have exposed it.

Just a note, i love the Hippocrates institute and they are great educator. Doing their program, will stop the cancer develop and some will even cure it. Others will reach a plateau and they need to detox deeper, this is why, they end up going with dr. Morse to finish up their journey. You can have a clean blood stream but if your lymph system and endocrine system isn't working like it is supposed to, then you need to consider to go deeper and even considering water fast as another step.

Just a thought.

p.s I want to add that i honor pretty much everyone promoting the very least the vegan style. Alissa is the first one to be in my heart because she gets it and because of her, i took the plunge. Her program is the ultimate first step and a must. If you go too strict unless you have a cancer, then you won't stay with this journey and get back to your old ways, especially if someone lost the weight they wanted, and feel better. Alissa teaches how to believe and love this raw journey by making it so fun. Following Alissa's program about freedom, cans cure and definitely also stop the cancer, but again many like myself, we need to dig deeper. All is well.

sport
06-15-2012, 05:17 AM
faith in a God, prayer, or the miracles of God's handiwork? He still performs them. Why give the credit fully to various food protocols alone? Do you not think that he is far too busy causing droughts and natural disasters as well as the financial disasters that we are all facing to be taking an interest in the health of one individual life form out of the trillions and trillions of life forms on this tiny planet and you do not have any idea of the havoc that he is causing on the many other planets on this galaxy and then all of the other galaxies.
The sooner that people realise that they alone are responsible for their health the better.

MysticTree
06-15-2012, 05:27 AM
The sooner that people realise that they alone are responsible for their health the better.

I agree but I think there is a lot to be said for prayer in the sense that it is positive thinking. If you think a higher power is healing you then you have a better chance of healing and have a better mindset to make healthy changes perhaps.

Meat_Juice
06-15-2012, 12:04 PM
Charlotte Gerson talks about this in the, "Food Matters" DVD. She talks about that fact that you not only need to get the good stuff in, but you MUST get the bad stuff out or your health will get worse. Basically, that "two things can't fit in the same space". So, unless you make room in your cells by detoxing/cleansing, the good stuff won't be able to get in.

I highly recommend watching, "Food Matters" as this is discussed quite in length.

Personally, if I received this diagnosis I would drink raw, organic greens (juice) and get as many colonics that I could afford and also give myself enemas to ensure that I was not only putting in the best good stuff but also getting out all the junk.

Also, I would demand intravenous vitamin C.


It is said that fruit can take the place of natural colonics, since it contains high fiber. When the intestinal tract(especially the colon) is filled up with waste, the vegetable matter can't get through to absorb.

Apes digest most of their vegetable matter in the colon, while as humans we digest most of our vegetable matter in the small intestine. But we can no longer successfully digest vegetable matter in our modern society, because are colon are backed up for the most part, and the plaque on the walls prevents vegetable matter from absorbing into the bloodstream.

The problem is, HOW DOES A PERSON KNOW WHEN THEIR INTESTINES ARE CLEAN ENOUGH FOR THEM TO START EATING OR JUICING MORE VEGETABLE MATTER? You can do colonics or eat as much fruit every day if you wanted to, but how would you know if your colon was entirely clean?

Or better yet, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOUR BODY WAS CLEAN?

Is there a way to measure it?

walnutty
06-15-2012, 12:09 PM
http://www.rawveganradio.com/episode-0130-rvr-healing-from-cancer/

Meat_Juice
06-15-2012, 12:24 PM
Oh thank you for that site, I will have to check it out! :)

Traceyraw
06-15-2012, 12:30 PM
Sorry to be a late bloomer here. I agree with Mr. Raw and the Hippocrates method. I live close to it and most of the people that go to there inpatient center are cancer patients.

Meat_Juice
06-15-2012, 09:29 PM
http://www.rawveganradio.com/episode-0130-rvr-healing-from-cancer/

Oh, an MD raw vegan promoter on the radio! :)



You don't find those too often. He sounds kind of knowledgeable, and in some ways I prefer him over Dr. Morse.

sport
06-16-2012, 03:57 AM
I agree but I think there is a lot to be said for prayer in the sense that it is positive thinking. If you think a higher power is healing you then you have a better chance of healing and have a better mindset to make healthy changes perhaps.
I agree with you but I fear that sometimes people think that it is in the hands of a higher power and then they reduce their own sense of responsibility. I have encountered this and find it frustrating.

MysticTree
06-16-2012, 05:18 AM
I have come to the conclusion that it's not worth worrying over. I let those who believe alone in their beliefs because I imagine it's as infuriating to have people trying to unconvert you as I find being preached to!

AccutaneT
06-18-2012, 12:25 PM
thats Great thanks

Revvell
06-18-2012, 02:17 PM
Why have you not included..... faith in a God, prayer, or the miracles of God's handiwork? He still performs them.

What about those who heal themselves w/out any belief, prayer, etc? Which one does one have to "believe" in for this to happen? Atheists and all those other theists and non-theists heal....

Animals in nature don't pray, don't believe, yet heal from various wounds and dis-eases....

Revvell
06-18-2012, 02:17 PM
For some people that is supposed to work if they pray and concentrate hard and sincerely enough.

You mean beg, right?

Revvell
06-18-2012, 02:18 PM
The sooner that people realise that they alone are responsible for their health the better.

Halleluhia (or, however it's spelled).....