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PansyLo
06-01-2012, 09:41 PM
I get heartburn all the time, raw or not it's nothing new! Hopefully with continuous raw eating it's one of those ailments that will resolve itself.

But does anyone have any raw foods to help combat heartburn and acid reflux? It's something I still get when eating raw, fruit can cause it, sometimes I just seem to get it for no good reason at all.

I don't want to be chomping down antiacid tablets but it's quite bothersome and uncomfortable.

MysticTree
06-02-2012, 12:33 AM
Antacids actually make it worse because the cause is likely to be too little acid in the stomach. This has knock-on effects for the pancreas as well. Check it out on google.

streetsurfer
06-02-2012, 12:52 AM
Follow Brenda Watsons H O P E program. Cured me.

HIGH FIBER

OMEGAS

PROBIOTICS

ENZYMES

ACV in water after a meal

Supplement HCL ACID - dont consume water with a meal it dilutes acid which will then not signal the lower esophageal sphincter to close tightly. Use the heel drop method to help relieve hyatal hernia problems which can lead to heartburm. Can be done by sitting down on bench hard repeatedly as well -google heel drop
Take DGL. Deglycerinized licorice tablets

Watsons books might be able to be found in goodwill or other resale shops. I have seen them there often.

Raw Angel Mom
06-02-2012, 04:05 PM
Stick to raw food seriously. Some people has a strong constitution and they heal quickly, others, it takes time.

The source problem is related to your food choice from the past (not the only source but surely doesn't help to eat food that isn't design for us and especially when it is cook), it is time now to trust in live food and gave it a good try.

If i would want to heal quicker, i would look into detoxing in a deeper level. Starting with juicing, fruit fast, fresh herbs and even considering water fast but not until you have done 100% raw food, did detox and read fully about that. Water fast can be dangerous if not done properly but so safe if it is.

Your first step is to stick to raw food, your other step is to upgrade and consider detoxing. The safe program to detox that i feel is, is from simply raw. It has done great healing for me but it hasn't been enough. I did three long water fast and all i can say, it was miraculous for me. I am still digger. I don't have a strong constitution but i am surely aiming there.

All the best

walnutty
06-03-2012, 01:29 AM
I just learned this recently, and have yet to try it, but supposedly you can stir some baking soda in water and drink that and it will cure heartburn!

MysticTree
06-03-2012, 01:58 AM
Cure heartburn or relieve the symptoms?

walnutty
06-03-2012, 06:24 AM
Cure heartburn or relieve the symptoms?

Relieve the symptoms.

And by relieving the symptoms you will be saving yourself from possible esophageal cancer.

MysticTree
06-03-2012, 01:02 PM
But putting your pancreas at risk. Far better to get your stomach acid level high enough.

PansyLo
06-04-2012, 09:34 AM
Thanks for everyone's input. :)

Baking soda is exactly the same as taking anti acids. Anti acids are just made from sodium bicarb. Is it really good for you to be consuming it? It's a chemical compound...

That HOPE system sounds complicated... I don't actually understand what you have to do from what's written there and I'm not buying a book just to get rid of acid reflux.

It would be good if there was a good raw remedy to alleviate the symptoms but I guess not.

I'll just hope that staying raw and fasting will cure it.

Raw Angel Mom
06-04-2012, 09:39 AM
Cholesterol is found in avocado, coconut oil and perhaps other food. It is an anti-acid.

I am not a doctor but i would give it a try to see if it works.

All the best!

MysticTree
06-04-2012, 10:18 AM
I think this is really an area where a lot of people go wrong. They treat with antacids and this makes matters worse because it is low acid in the stomach that causes the reflux. Low stomach acid also affects the way the pancreas operates so there is a knock on effect which can be very significant of you already have issues with your pancreas. There is lots of good info out there though which is easy to google.

PansyLo
06-04-2012, 02:43 PM
^ Acid reflux is more commonly caused by too much acid in the stomach, it can also be caused by too little but I don't understand why you'd assume that was the cause?

It could be either I guess but I don't have any other symptoms of low acid. It's more common in older people, I'm only 21. I don't have thin hair and nails that break easily (on the contrary my nails are unusually strong and I have really thick hair).

It could be either but I think it's more likely to be excess stomach acid. I'll try avocado when I do get it and hope that it cures itself through long term good dieting (raw and fasting).

Traceyraw
06-04-2012, 02:52 PM
ACV works great.

PansyLo
06-04-2012, 02:56 PM
^ What is ACV?

streetsurfer
06-04-2012, 07:54 PM
Water is a chemical coumpound also. Are you equally concerned about consuming it?Your pancreas is your own bicarb factory. You may have a herniation of the lower esophageal sphincter. Low acid does not allow sufficient production of a certain gas during digestion that is required to signal the lower esophageal sphincter to close tightly. That weak signal and closure allows paristalsis to force stomach contents upwards into the esoph. Most often it is low acid that is the cause. The result of not learning how to control reflux will be Barrets syndrome and then cancer such as Richard Dawson just died of. Thats not worth looking for a secondhand copy of a book? Seriously? Good luck to you with that attitude.

PansyLo
06-05-2012, 05:21 AM
^ Your attitude isn't great either. At least I was being polite.

I didn't study chemistry. I don't know how harmless it is that's why I questioned it.

No, I don't really want to buy a book on the matter. Seriously. I don't have any income at all at the moment. I struggle to pay bus money. I'm not buying a book, not even a second hand one. I can't afford the essentials right now. You're blowing it way out of proportion, everyone get's a little acid reflux at some point in their life I am not going to immediately drop dead of cancer. There's no reason to believe that I will ever drop dead of cancer because of it just because I could. There's no reason to believe I even have low stomach acid when everything I've read suggests that high stomach acid in more common. Maybe if it becomes a chronic continued problem and raw food isn't solving it I'd have more reason for concern and buy the book or see a doctor.

walnutty
06-05-2012, 06:10 AM
When I have heartburn at night, while trying to sleep or waking up with it, I just put a bunch of pillows behind my head and upper back to sleep as upright as I can and it helps it to go away. I would also prefer not to take anything, but right now, because I can't afford to eat raw I am having to take a prescription for acid reflux. It sucks!!! Luckily, as soon as I am 100% raw my heartburn and acid reflux goes away within a few days and stays away.

streetsurfer
06-05-2012, 10:08 PM
If you can get past my attitude read on-I'll offer more advice you might do well to heed.

Prevention........
Don't overeat.
Eat smaller meals in a relaxed atmosphere, more frequently and eat slowly chewing well.
Avoid coffee, alcohol, chocolate.
Don't drink water with or near meals.

Treating........
Things to consider eating to ease symptoms:
Peppermint, Ginger, Bananas in liquid form, Pineapple or bromelain, Papaya or papain.
Make a smoothie of:
2 C. Fresh pineapple cut into small chunks
1 banana
1/2 C. Plain yogurt or 1 C. Coconut milk
Blend and strain out pineapple fiber-sip
Another:
1 pear
1 peach
Small piece ginger
1/2 C. ice
Dash cinnamon or nutmeg
Blend and sip

Daniix
06-06-2012, 11:32 AM
Hi. I have never had heartburn but I did have pretty bad indigestion so this might help? I would sip on Hot Lemon water when I felt the indigestion coming on. I guess it's worth a try!

PansyLo
06-06-2012, 12:17 PM
Thanks streetsurfer. That's extremely useful :)

I'll try those things. I've typically not actually had any problems since starting this thread but I'm sure I will at some point so it's all good to know.

I am pretty bad for pigging out with huge meals. I do tend to do better on raw where I space my meals out more and make several big things then keep them in the fridge to have a little of when I'm hungry. But I still enjoy a good ol giant salad.
I eat far too quickly too. I used to really take my time with eating when I was a kid and a young teenager but people complained and I'd often get abandoned at the cafe by myself. I trained myself not to do it before I understood that it was actually a good habit. Recently I trained myself to eat even faster as on a lunch break at my last job you would only get 20 minutes max, sometimes only 15 and on a 10 hour shift I got pretty hungry.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
06-08-2012, 01:58 AM
I get heartburn all the time, raw or not it's nothing new! Hopefully with continuous raw eating it's one of those ailments that will resolve itself.

But does anyone have any raw foods to help combat heartburn and acid reflux? It's something I still get when eating raw, fruit can cause it, sometimes I just seem to get it for no good reason at all.

I don't want to be chomping down antiacid tablets but it's quite bothersome and uncomfortable.

Food combine properly and there will be no problems.

Having tomatoe or acid fruits with grains is notorious for causing heart burn.

Raw Angel Mom
06-08-2012, 12:50 PM
Thanks streetsurfer. That's extremely useful :)

I'll try those things. I've typically not actually had any problems since starting this thread but I'm sure I will at some point so it's all good to know.

I am pretty bad for pigging out with huge meals. I do tend to do better on raw where I space my meals out more and make several big things then keep them in the fridge to have a little of when I'm hungry. But I still enjoy a good ol giant salad.
I eat far too quickly too. I used to really take my time with eating when I was a kid and a young teenager but people complained and I'd often get abandoned at the cafe by myself. I trained myself not to do it before I understood that it was actually a good habit. Recently I trained myself to eat even faster as on a lunch break at my last job you would only get 20 minutes max, sometimes only 15 and on a 10 hour shift I got pretty hungry.


I hear you about the work, so sorry about this lack of time. Maybe you should look into doing something simple to help you to release the stress. Stress isn't a great combination with acid etc... because it generates more. Deep breath cans do the trick.

I have been lucky not to have those acid reflux because i am guilty for the tendency to over eat and eating fast. It is a working progress for me, but i enjoy being able to relax and feel the life from the food.

It was a great question and great thread.

I wish for you to get well soon, hang it there, it will.

MysticTree
06-08-2012, 01:01 PM
Meditation would be good for stress busting. If you can find the time then it should help a lot. Finding time is easier than people think. 15 minutes of not surfing the net or of getting up a bit earlier or choosing a tv programme to skip. There's lots of options and some of these can also apply to making and eating food.

Living Food
06-08-2012, 02:12 PM
I think this is really an area where a lot of people go wrong. They treat with antacids and this makes matters worse because it is low acid in the stomach that causes the reflux. Low stomach acid also affects the way the pancreas operates so there is a knock on effect which can be very significant of you already have issues with your pancreas. There is lots of good info out there though which is easy to google.

I second that...heartburn is only very infrequently caused by high levels of stomach acid, and almost always by low levels. So many people seem to think it's the opposite, but then how else could you sell tons of antacids to people? Antacids are completely useless if you have heartburn, unless you just want to cover up the symptoms. Doctors are great for doing that...it's the whole "curing" department that gives 'em so much trouble :)


Meditation would be good for stress busting. If you can find the time then it should help a lot. Finding time is easier than people think. 15 minutes of not surfing the net or of getting up a bit earlier or choosing a tv programme to skip. There's lots of options and some of these can also apply to making and eating food.

A great idea; watching tv is stupid anyway, there's much more important things you could be doing, and much more beneficial things. So many people complain about how little free time they have to do things that are good for them, and then sit on their butt in front of a screen for hours every day.

MysticTree
06-08-2012, 02:23 PM
We got rid of our tv getting on for two years ago. Still have a radio which we listen to in the evening - batteries permitting.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
06-08-2012, 11:56 PM
A great idea; watching tv is stupid anyway, there's much more important things you could be doing, and much more beneficial things. So many people complain about how little free time they have to do things that are good for them, and then sit on their butt in front of a screen for hours every day.

T.V and other media is mind control, pure and simple. Even a simple Walt Disney childrens film is full of negative imagery. Notice how people talk and act like people in films these days? People base their social behaviour from films. Lots of satanic imagery on t.v and in music videos [too] if you know what to look for, + lots of little tricks the news services use to manipulate the way you think. Then there is the sport con they use to manipulate the slaves. Most of us are so programmed that we have the media do the thinking for us. The satanic symbolism is designed to manipulate the way we think and make slaves of all of us, and that's exactly what most of us have become....puppets unable to think very clearly....puppets who have no idea what is going on. lt is said that only 15% of the population aren't prone to mind control and people who do quality mediation aren't prone to mind control either. But it's no wonder people can't think; they comsume GM foods, eat tinned foods, drink from chemical filled water supplies, smoke, drink, watch sport, watch t.v, listen to the news and do all types of nonsense.

l'll get back top this forum another day. Very busy right now.

MysticTree
06-09-2012, 12:49 AM
I don't know about the imagery you say is there. We gave it up because it was poor quality and boring. We only had the basic package can't way. No music channels, none of the sport channels which show big events and none of the movie channels. I don't like soaps and reality tv so that left very little we wanted to watch.

Revvell
06-10-2012, 10:36 AM
I am pretty bad for pigging out with huge meals.

There's the problem.



I do tend to do better on raw where I space my meals out more and make several big things then keep them in the fridge to have a little of when I'm hungry.

There's the solution. More often than not, we create our own problems and, right beside them, are the solutions.



I eat far too quickly too.

Again the problem.

Often, when folk down their food too quickly, they also take in air.... they don't take time to chew, they talk while they eat, they breathe too quickly, they drink fluid while they eat ~ thereby causing pain and stress. Eat slower, eat less, eat more often ... there's your solution. Happy days!

Frugal Raw
06-10-2012, 10:46 AM
I think this is really an area where a lot of people go wrong. They treat with antacids and this makes matters worse because it is low acid in the stomach that causes the reflux. Low stomach acid also affects the way the pancreas operates so there is a knock on effect which can be very significant of you already have issues with your pancreas. There is lots of good info out there though which is easy to google.

I agree - my husband was having chronic heatburn, and I finally got him to listen about the fact that it's because he has low stomach acid. He is not raw, so I have him taking HCL before he eats. The bottle does however state that it is not to be used prior to consuming an entire meal of raw foods.

Frugal Raw
06-10-2012, 10:50 AM
On another note, prior to my husband agreeing to take HCL, he experimented with slippery elm lozenges. He said they helped, but the HCL has really helped him. You might consider the slippery elm lozenges as you transition if this continues to be a problem.

PansyLo
06-10-2012, 07:10 PM
I completely agree with the comments about tv. It's pointless, boring and mind numbing. It's such a huge industry as a form of mind control.
It keeps people entertained, dull and compliant. Glued to the tv, distracted and brain dead. Puts "the right" ideas into their heads.

I think tv is one of the most dangerous things out there.

I don't have a tv in the house and haven't since I moved out of my parents. I plan on never having one.

I'm currently trying to better control my internet time though, it's my bigger problem. I feel it's necessary as it's such a HUGE source of information. I definitely waste too much time on it though.

Tad off topic, maybe a thread could be started in the "Other Health" section as I think everyone will agree that tv seriously affects your health!

lynch
06-10-2012, 07:58 PM
fruits. but the most helpful fruit for you is banana. good luck!:)