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Meat_Juice
05-27-2012, 11:37 AM
I am currently on Dr. Robert Morse's program. For people who have chronic ailments or tissue that won't heal properly, he recommends a diet
of nothing but water rich fruits berries and melons, and herbal tinctures(which have tiny bits of alchohol in them). Unless a person is completely healthy,
vegetables of any kind are not recommended by him.



He says that while greens are great for cleaning the blood, they serve to only slow down the healing process. While his ideas are contradictive
to western principles of health, he claims that we should be focusing more on the lymphatic system than on the blood, and that the quality of
a human's cells is determined by the quality of a person's lymphatic system - whether it is backed up or not. He claims that fruits are the only foods
that move lymph, and with the addition of vegetables(wild or cultivated), they only stagnate the lymph system, so that the lymph system is no longer
flowing like it should be. For this matter, he says that humans should be eating an exclusively water rich fruit diet for optimal health. According to him,
the ultimate way to get lymphatic waste to be drained out the kidneys is 40 days on only grapes, or better yet, lemon juice.



So I am on 100% exclusively fruit and herbal tinctures. No greens....









Until, a couple days ago, I was pondering about the use of chlorophyll and green leafy vegetables as healing agents. It is said that
a plant's chlorophyll is its blood and is almost identical to that of a humans blood, and as many religious texts say, the life of an animal is
in its blood. Chimpanzees are well known to include almost as many leafy green vegetables in their diet as fresh fruit from the trees. Chlorophyll
is a substance that is well known, identified and highly recommended to be helpful in forming blood clots, restoring tissue, maintaining the DNA,
boost our energy, stabilize our blood sugar, increase the number of red blood cells, and help infection. Whether all these claims are true are
questionable by skeptics. It has been argued that while rumnants like horses and cows are fed all types of chlorophyll from the grasses that they
eat, they still suffer from chronic disease.



I have been questioning the idea of whether adding pounds of wild green leafy vegetables every day to my 100% fruit diet would make much of a huge difference
for my health or not, and whether I would see any major health changes.




Has anyone noticed any major differences in their health by adding pounds of wild greens and chlorophyll everyday to their 100% fruit diet?

Revvell
05-27-2012, 12:41 PM
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Raw Angel Mom
05-27-2012, 07:45 PM
Dr. Morse approach is for further detoxification. It isn't about a life style but if you want to heal quicker and detox further and rejuvenate your organ and tissue, it is best to do semi acid fruit as much as possible. He is all about doing 100% raw vegan food no matter your choice but if you have an health issue, it is critical to get your lymphatic system health or unclog. As he says so often the body chemistry that is source of any health issue is the Acid and if you have acidocist accumulation then, you need to make sure that your GI track is healthy, your kidney/gland working and your lymph unclog. If not, then you will have to deal with the corrosive aspect of the acid.

You can eat as much greens you want or any any raw vegan food you want but if you do wish to speed up the detox and heal your issue, then semi acid fruits and herbs is the way, you should even consider fasting for digging even more.

The first step is always to go with 100% raw vegan food, then if you see that you are still having issue, then it is time to dig deeper and detoxification and rejuvenating your tissue is without question an essential approach. You need to be patient and know that this is a journey.

Personally, yes i have seen improvement in my own health. I had anxiety last year and trust me, i did all the necessary approached in term of natural healing and emotional release but i had something off with my body that made me shake with a little stress. I haven't had this issue again after doing dr.Morse's herbs, more fruits and even three long water fast. I am now resume to eat normal raw vegan food but i will dig again for further detox at some point.

As for observing my child, she started to want only blueberries and oranges during that time that i learned that children will be perfectly fine on fruits. I decided to let her eat what she was craving for and not to force other food. She is now like she woke up from a dream and has miraculous progressed. I feel she is fully recovered and i would be curious to see new testing about her. Without question, for her doing inclusively only semi acid fruits for a few months, it has been miraculous to her. She is ahead of her class now which before she couldn't focus. Something was magic with those blueberries and oranges.

All the best

Non
05-27-2012, 09:08 PM
interesting. I wonder what he thinks about nuts and seeds or fats in general in such a diet. So greens and veggies have to be omitted but what about protein and fats? There's no way you can get enough protein just eating fruits unless you subscribe to the idea that you only need 25-35g protein a day and even less if raw because of the bioavailability. As for fats well the daily requirement of the EFAs are only about like what, I think it was less than 5 g a day.

As for fats, yea maybe you would satisfy the "less than 5 g of EFAs a day" and get by on just fruits if you think when you consume more than 100g of fructose the rest is converted to fat by the liver... providing all the fat you really need.

Non
05-27-2012, 11:11 PM
how could you live on only lemon juice for 40 days?

Non
05-27-2012, 11:15 PM
my other question is, all organic? fruits have a lot of pesticides...

walnutty
05-28-2012, 12:08 AM
Yes, when I do liquid raw exclusivley (juicing and blending) I reach a whole new level of feeling good (mentally, physically and spiritually)!

Raw Angel Mom
05-28-2012, 07:52 AM
Again, he isn't against raw vegan food but if you are having an issue, you need to have your kidney fully function. Fat or nut over taxes the kidney, it is best to sustain from them, if your goal is to heal quickly and faster result. Even with simply raw detox, nut were out due that they slow down the detox.

I personally wouldn't do 40 days lemon/water only. I could consider a long fast on oranges only but this is me. I would feel safer to do a 100% water fast instead after the research that i have done on my own and read.

It is best doing none organic then not at all. Personally, i cannot do grape if they aren't organic, i will have migraine but if you can, then go for it.

I am not a doctor and please research

Meat_Juice
05-29-2012, 01:03 PM
Again, he isn't against raw vegan food but if you are having an issue, you need to have your kidney fully function. Fat or nut over taxes the kidney, it is best to sustain from them, if your goal is to heal quickly and faster result. Even with simply raw detox, nut were out due that they slow down the detox.

I personally wouldn't do 40 days lemon/water only. I could consider a long fast on oranges only but this is me. I would feel safer to do a 100% water fast instead after the research that i have done on my own and read.

It is best doing none organic then not at all. Personally, i cannot do grape if they aren't organic, i will have migraine but if you can, then go for it.

I am not a doctor and please research


Well, I was planning on doing a fast on WILD grapes instead of the cultivated ones you find at the store.



After all, I checked my neighborhood and grape vines are growing all over the place. It looks like the wild grapes should
be coming into season in a couple months.


Never tried the wild grapes before. I would assume it is much better than your cultivated grape, since it wouldn't contain any harmful pesticides, and better yet, it is free food.

Raw Angel Mom
05-29-2012, 07:59 PM
Well, I was planning on doing a fast on WILD grapes instead of the cultivated ones you find at the store.



After all, I checked my neighborhood and grape vines are growing all over the place. It looks like the wild grapes should
be coming into season in a couple months.


Never tried the wild grapes before. I would assume it is much better than your cultivated grape, since it wouldn't contain any harmful pesticides, and better yet, it is free food.

These would be ultimately perfect and great for you. They are locally grown and wild.

I would do that for a much i can. I wish, i could have fresh grape where i am, we don't have this luxury here so what a great gift this is for you.

All the best

Meat_Juice
05-29-2012, 10:44 PM
You know what grape leaves look like, right?





They look like a fork, and the berries form in clusters. When the grapes are ripe, they are black.





The Virginia Creeper is a similar plant found in the same family as the grape, and it also has clusters of berries. These berries are toxic. However the Virginia Creeper have 5 leaves.

Revvell
05-30-2012, 08:00 AM
They look like a fork, and the berries form in clusters. When the grapes are ripe, they are black.

That would depend on the type of grape and where you are. You're assuming everyone lives where you do and the grapes are the same.