Past immunizations showing up on skin... I think?

[Hanalei]

Does anybody know anything about childhood immunizations being pushed out during detox? Ever since I went raw (since February), I've had itchy, red, raised rash-y spots all over my body. It started on my legs and then spread to my arms. I did a 2-week cleanse, and since that ended, I've been using a loofah (sp?) sponge on them to help get rid of the dead and scaly skin. It helped a LOT the first couple of times I used it, but seems to have stopped, although the rash also hasn't appeared to spread too much more since the cleanse. It is looking a lot better. My mom said it kind of looks like chicken pox, so I was wondering if anybody has ever heard of shots like that showing up during detox? I'm 17 and had that shot, along with the other 'normal' ones, when I was younger. So, does this sound familiar to anyone? And if so, how long before it goes away?!? I haven't been able to find anything like it online or on this forum, so I'm kind of at a loss. Although the chicken pox immunization theory does make sense to me.

[MysticTree]

I would get your liver checked out I have known various people with compromised livers that have this sort of skin presentation.

The scaly/chicken pox like "rash" sounds like the type of psoriasis my boyfriend gets and this is always worse when his liver is stressed.

Take a picture of these areas if you can. It might be ringworm or any of a number of other complaints. People on here or forums for skin issues might be able to help more.

[streetsurfer]

I think your mom probably meant that it looks like chicken pox scars or lesions, not that the vaccine was coming up and out. Have you had the pox? Do you have the scars?

I used to get irritating skin bumps, that were in my best guess, related to diary or wheat. They would come up each allergy season, spring and fall (immune system stressed to the max), particularly when and in the areas of the body that were regularly exposed to sun (so hayfever season was always worse). I have not had what was then (rightly or wrongly) called acneform folliculitis since stopping dairy and wheat. This was prior to raw. They were reddish raised bumps similar to a pimple that would usually fill with sebum (I guess it was sebum), but did not usually open and drain, rather they hardened until reabsorbed, and itched a little. No amount of scrubbing, moisturizer, oatmeal soap, sunscreen, or retin A, would clear or prevent them. They went away at the elimination of dairy. Are you dairy/wheat free?

[Hanalei]

I initially thought it was ringworm, but none of the remedies I found online seemed to help. The cleanse I did seemed to do the best, but it still didn't go away completely. I've only been raw for 4 months, so I'm not sure if maybe it's something like the toxins my body is trying to get rid of is built up in my liver or something, and that's why it's not going away? When it first started, it was just one little red spot on my leg that looked like a scrape or something. At the worst, it was scaly and red and itchy and oozy on a 2 inch by 4 inch section of the front of my leg, and smaller ones on other areas. I was putting a band-aid on it, but the sticky stuff on it seemed to make it spread a lot overnight, and it ended up being in the shape of the bandaid I had on it. Here's a few pictures.

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The first one is what my leg looked like (the worst spot) a few weeks ago. The second is what it looks like since I did the cleanse. The third is what my arm currently looks like. How do you find out if it's your liver or something with any of your organs that's causing it?

EDIT: No, I've never had chicken pox, but I have gotten the shots for it. My mom said that maybe it's the dead virus from the shots that is coming out. I am dairy free, and the only wheat I eat are a small amount of grains (maybe 1/4 cup) in cereal for breakfast some days. I usually use barley and/or oat groats and buckwheat groats. Not sure if any of those have wheat, but I don't use very much of it. Most of the cereal is usually nuts and seeds and fruit. Ever since I went raw, I've only been drinking coconut and almond milk instead of dairy milk.

I'd just really like it to go away... I feel very uncomfortable wearing tee shirts or shorts because they're so visible.

[MysticTree]

I initially thought it was ringworm, but none of the remedies I found online seemed to help. The cleanse I did seemed to do the best, but it still didn't go away completely. I've only been raw for 4 months, so I'm not sure if maybe it's something like the toxins my body is trying to get rid of is built up in my liver or something, and that's why it's not going away? When it first started, it was just one little red spot on my leg that looked like a scrape or something. At the worst, it was scaly and red and itchy and oozy on a 2 inch by 4 inch section of the front of my leg, and smaller ones on other areas. I was putting a band-aid on it, but the sticky stuff on it seemed to make it spread a lot overnight, and it ended up being in the shape of the bandaid I had on it. Here's a few pictures.

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The first one is what my leg looked like (the worst spot) a few weeks ago. The second is what it looks like since I did the cleanse. The third is what my arm currently looks like. How do you find out if it's your liver or something with any of your organs that's causing it?

EDIT: No, I've never had chicken pox, but I have gotten the shots for it. My mom said that maybe it's the dead virus from the shots that is coming out. I am dairy free, and the only wheat I eat are a small amount of grains (maybe 1/4 cup) in cereal for breakfast some days. I usually use barley and/or oat groats and buckwheat groats. Not sure if any of those have wheat, but I don't use very much of it. Most of the cereal is usually nuts and seeds and fruit. Ever since I went raw, I've only been drinking coconut and almond milk instead of dairy milk.

I'd just really like it to go away... I feel very uncomfortable wearing tee shirts or shorts because they're so visible.

That third picture is ringworm.
The first and second pictures show evidence of ringworm although I have never seen it that scabby but you can see the tell-tale rings in the second picture.

[streetsurfer]

Oh wow, not the same as I experienced at all. Look up celiac disease and dermatitis herpetiformis the skin condition that often accompanies celiac disease.

[Hanalei]

My brother actually had the dermatitis since he was born up until about a year ago, after he went mostly gluten-free and became homeschooled. It hasn't really been back since, though he has been eating gluten for several months and hasn't had problems with it. His didn't look anything like mine looks. Same symptoms, but his was never circular, and didn't heal the same way. Mine seems to heal from the bottom up, and the ones on my arms are somewhat healed. I've tried a bunch of different ringworm cures, and none of them made any difference, so I'm not sure that that's what it is. I started those when it was still pretty small. Nothing. It certainly does look like ringworm, but doesn't seem to be. When I thought it was ringworm, I had kept it covered with gauze, which just made it worse becuase it always seemed to rip the scabs off and keep it from healing. The worst ones look TONS better since the cleanse, but are still there.

I do have a couple of the symptoms of celiac, but if it was that, why would it show up so suddenly and right when I went raw? It's a good thought, I'm just confused as to why it would be so sudden if it was something like that, especially when I really don't eat much wheat anyway...

[streetsurfer]

Be patient with it as it does resemble ringworm and it can persist. I made a salve for my ringworm which helped greatly but did not clear it until I added a certain flower bud to it. Then it went away. Other ingredients which helped suppress it were neem oil and tea tree oil, argan oil/shea butter blend with frankincense and myhrr. I think I put sage in it too, but later found that sage may have been causing it for me when eaten. Everybody is different in some regards as to what helps or causes problems.

Celiac symptoms or h/d can be triggered by minute amounts of gluten. This may be from other things entirely. Keep eating cleanly, keep the spots dry when not medicating them. Wash clothes that have come in contact with it very well in hot water I think is recommended. Try to wear things that won't abrade the spots.

Im not much help here, but maybe others will be. Best wishes.

[Hanalei]

I found another thread on another raw food forum that someone mentioned eating less sugar (fruit) and more veggies. I'm going to try that and see if that makes any difference, becuase I do think I've been eating a lot more fruit (particularly bananas) since going raw. Do you know anything about that? I also have a hard time with the clothing issue - it's not warm enough here to even wear a tee shirt, much less shorts, so wearing jeans and sweatshirts and such probably isn't helping me, either. If it is ringworm - which I guess it must be becuase I can't find anything else other than the chicken pox idea - how do you know when it's completely gone from your body? Obviously the rash will go away, but is there anything internally that causes it that you can't see, or is it just the rash?

[MysticTree]

Ringworm is a fungal infection which is why you get the rings. These rings get bigger and bigger as you can see from picture 2 until the fungus dies or is killed. A doctor would be able to confirm that it is ringworm but would want to prescribe anti fungals. It will persist at low levels and break out again of you don't get rid of it. Research natural anti fungals or take conventional medication but do something because it will be miserable for you if you don't. And can be easily passed to others in your family including pets.

[Hanalei]

I'm going to try cutting back a lot on the amount of fruits and other sugary foods I eat for a few days and see if it helps. I've also been putting grapefruit seed extract on it (tried drinking it and it was nasty!!), and I took a swig of some coconut oil, since I read that both of those are supposed to help. I'm going to try to include more coconut oil in what I eat, since that didn't taste very good by itself, either. What else can you do for fungus? How do you know when it's gone completely?

[streetsurfer]

You can place a couple drops of oregano oil under your tounge or add to water daily.
Apply it to the rash as well. That was also in my salve, I'd forgotten it.

[MysticTree]

Just read that a paste of equal parts honey and cinnamon applied to ringworm will get fid of it. Use a good honey not a standard, non organic, filtered one.
You can also use honey and cinnamon mixtures to cure practically anything apparently. I haven't tried it yet but will see if it works for my lingering cough.

[streetsurfer]

Just read that a paste of equal parts honey and cinnamon applied to ringworm will get fid of it. Use a good honey not a standard, non organic, filtered one.
You can also use honey and cinnamon mixtures to cure practically anything apparently. I haven't tried it yet but will see if it works for my lingering cough.

I was taking cin/hon (1t-1T each)for wheezing brought on by smoke from fires, and allergy to airbornes and I felt it worked great. It may very well help your cough. It (cinnamon) is a vasodialator and should increase blood supply to your mucosal tissue - like in lungs & sinuses. Be sure to take plenty of water through the day to help thin the mucous too. Rosacea being made worse by it was the only caution I could find about using it.

[Traceyraw]

Raw Apple Cider Vinager has antifungal properties. Its great on toenail fungus.Mixed with honey and cinn. as Mystic tree suggested I think you will be fine.

[streetsurfer]

Dr. Oz recently said vicks rubbed on toenails would treat the fungus too. Can we extrapolate from that and assume that applying clove and menthol oils, vick's active ingredients that are antifungal, might help skin fungus/ringworm? Those two oils might be worth a try too.

[Hanalei]

About all of the cinnamon and honey mixtures that you guys mentioned, do you just eat the mix or do you actually put it on the spots? Or does it not matter which way?

I've been seriously watching how much sugar I eat for - I think this is the third day - and it actually seems to be helping quite a bit. All of the spots are looking better and they all look very dry. Apparently the sugar has something to do with it. I'm amazed at how much better it looks after only 3 days since I've had the crap since February.

[streetsurfer]

I referred to it for my wheezing and possibly a good remedy for Mystic Trees cough as being taken internally. If you suspect sugar is worsening the rash, for now then, I guess I would not take it internally. I think it can be healing taken internally for some things. Others here have more experience with it than myself though, so maybe they will have better advice as to if it will make a rash worse if it is from systemic causes.

If I may speak for Mystic Tree, apply topically for the rash. Manuka honey would be healing from what I've heard. I used some on my eyelid successfully for blepharitis, a dry skin condition on the outer eyelid.

[MysticTree]

SS is right and I do say in my post; "apply to ringworm". I only mention me taking it internally for my cough.

[Hanalei]

Do you think this is something a 1 or 2 day juice cleanse would help clear up? I'm not sure I'd be able to go any more than that, but would it help? Staying off of most sugar has given me some very unpleasant side effects... (nausea, headaches, dizzyness, etc)

[MysticTree]

Do a cleanse if you want and see whether it makes a difference. I doubt it will.

[streetsurfer]

I looked at this like a lawn fungus when I had it. For them to attack turf, there has to be the presence of the spores or reproductive part of the fungus, the host turf or other food supply, along with ideal conditions for the pathogen to survive. Fungus likes moisture.

I think there is a connection between lymphodema and skin fungus. An increase risk for it because of poor lymph flow. Not sure how that connection works but maybe improving your lymph flow will help, bouncing on a rebounder is about the best you can for that. Good exercise of all your muscles will do the same. Muscle contractions are what pump lymph. Valves are assisted in opening and closing making the flow more efficient when you bound up and down repeatedly as on a mini tramp or rebounder. something else to consider in your fight. Walk more, calisthenics, hot cold therapy, anyting to improve lymph flow.

I found eating sage reduces perspiration, which it is known for, but I don't know how it accomplishes that. Does that function, as a result, cause one to hold more moisture in/beneath the skin? If so, that could make an ideal condition for an introduced fungal pathogen to take hold. Add an abrasion from clothing or branch, the pathogen it self, and it sets up shop. That seemed to be how I'd contract it a couple times. This was while I was in Florida, an area known for increased incidence of skin fungus. I don't get it in the midwest.

[Hanalei]

So a cleanse wouldn't help, then? Man....

Why doesn't being on a high raw diet make it go away naturally? Fungus and candida, I mean.