sleeping all day, still tired when I wake up.

[honeybee joy]

I hope this is the last time I have to talk about this w/ you guys because I am ready to start sharing the good things about being raw.
It seems like I am feeling worse & not better. I am on 4 1/2 days now. I ended up doing a water fast today, becuase every time I tried to have a smoothie or a green juice my stomach would get really sick. I didn't have much water today because this makes me sick also. I feel like I could eat a cooked meal & my stomach would be fine, but if I eat raw it would get sick again.
I am stressed & depressed about the whole deal. I have insulin resistance so I do not know if fasting is really good for me or not, but it seems like it is eather that or cooked food. Every day gets worse.
I did try the enema a day and a half ago, It worked to get some stuff out, but I could tell their was more in their. I tried it three times that nite. I do not know how many enemas you can do? All this stress about this had turned me off of raw foods, & all I can think about is cooked food. I am thinking about this little restaurant that serves veggie stirfry & veggie spring rolls. I don't think I can do another fast tommorow because of the thyroid disease & insulin resistance. I don't want to go back to cooked, but anything is better than this. I feel so out of control with what is going on here, & I don't want to die. My hands are tingly when I sleep on them at nite. that hasn't happened in ages. Help! :confused:

[honeybee joy]

I have also been doing the skin brushing & I even soaked in the epsom salts that my friend got me. That helped my back feel better.

[sport]

If you have to eat cooked then please make it something clean like a little steamed rice or millet or quinoa porridge. If you eat something like the stirfry that has been cooked in oil at high temperatures then you will be back where you started and your efforts to date will have been wasted. Have you tried juicing. Maybe you could take juice or what is your favourite raw food. Sometimes having something you realy like helps.

[MoniDew]

WHOA! Be careful, honey! You've run yourself down to empty. Please take a little celery/apple juice (dilute it if you have to, to get it down,) every few hours and get your electrolytes balanced again. Have you done any type of sublingual B12? (for the tingling in the hands.)

[honeybee joy]

I was having doubts. I wish I would have waited one more day to read the messages here about this & in another section, it would have helped me not have doubts. I really blew it last nite you guys. I eather thought that something was wrong w/ me because I was not getting better like others or that the diet was not agreeing w/ me & I have commitment isssues at times so sometimes I back out when I am scared. This morning my stomach & acid refux was sooo bad becuase of all of the bad food binges last night that I thought it could be a heart attack. It ended up being the most severe acid refux i have ever experienced. I ended up having to take some alka seltzer & gas-x becuase if that didn't work I was going to go to the emergency room. It ended up going away after the meds. I had to miss my afternoon thyroid meds & cortisol because it was making my stomach sick. I havn't ate anything today & will start eating raw tommorow. I think I might eat one meal of steamed veggies to slow down the detox. I really like eating raw, prefer it over cooked. well I am going to go back to bed because i am pooped.
Do you think that eating raw all day & having a evening cooked meal would be better? I was thinkling steamed veggies? I would love to do it alissa's way & just go 100%, because when I do something I like to go all the way, but I have read that that people who are really sick sometimes should not go 100% right away.
I a lucky that I have you guys, because today I was seriously thinking about finding another way to eat because of everthing that happened. I had not idea that the detox could get this crazy. :eek: :o
Well wish me luck tommorow w/ starting over, you know it will be crazy!! :D

[TimmyC]

Honeybee Joy,


I wish you luck, but another way to look at it instead of calling it starting over is saying you're continuing along your raw journey. Who cares that you slipped. Pick youself back up, and continue. No one is going to think anything less of you.

It's like if you are running a marathon, and you stop running, do you go back to the begining to start over, or do you just start running again so you can finish? I guess if this is short term, then yes I'd start over, but if it's the long term lifestyle change that you want, I'd just continue on.

I think you're documentation of what is happening with you is excellent!! I'm rooting for you!

Tim

[Carlene]

HoneyBee,

You have to give your body time to get used to raw. I was pretty tired when I started too, but it passes. Think of giving up cooked food like breaking any addiction, you go through detox. Some more severe than others, but it passes. In the end I guess what it comes down to is how bad you want to go raw. I'm in my fifth month, I feel great. I have so much energy and such a lifted spirit that you wouldn't know me from five months ago.

As for your stomach, when you eat something that doesn't agree with you, put it in the later list and eat things that do agree with you, maybe softer foods. I find that raw carrots really eat at my stomach and squashes make me nauseus, so I limit how much I eat of these things. But a bag of grapes or some oranges always sit just fine. If you want this, you can do it.

If your tired, relax, take a nap. Don't stress over it. I too am taking thyroid medicine and was starting to see the beginning of sugar problems. My sugar has dropped back down to normal levels, and I'm hoping this spring to come off the thyroid medicines. There are a lot of people on this forum who have similiar problems and none have died have eating raw, or from fasting.

My advice is to stop fasting which seems to stress you out more, eat mostly fruit for a couple of days, wait for detox to pass, and stop stressing over it. I never thought I would hear myself say this, but as Revell always says, embrace this time as your body heals.

[honeybee joy]

I have decided that I am going to do the 100% thing & If for some reason things get crazy I might have some steamed veggies. I do want to be 100% raw, I was really happy w/ it & did not even want cooked foods. Then things started to get crazy & I did not know where to turn. So, I went back to the way I knew because I thought it was safe. I HAD doubts, but not anymore.
Anyways, thank you everyone for your comments & support thru this crazy time. ;)
Lissa

[MoniDew]

This morning my stomach & acid refux was sooo bad becuase of all of the bad food binges last night that I thought it could be a heart attack. It ended up being the most severe acid refux i have ever experienced

Honey,
This reflux is trying to tell you that you are dangerously low in naturally occuring sodium - from plants - as in celery or sea weeds. This is a more common occurance than you would imagine. Sodium is the very first mineral to become deficient following SAD diet. High levels of protein use sodium as an alkalinizing mineral to buffer the acidity of the protein. The mineral is NOT replaced by table salt or the sodium found in packaged foods. Only organic/plant sodium will restore the body's sodium.

Those who exhibits symptoms of disease condition do so because they have become mineral deficient. This leads to hyperacidity, which leads to the onset of disease.

The organ of the body that requires the highest sodium levels is the lining of the stomach - the most alkaline tissue in the body. It has to be because gastric secretions are the highest acidity of the body. Next is the small intestine because it secretes baking soda (sodium) - again to buffer gastric secretions. Gall stones form in the absence of sodium and reverse in the presence of sodium. Gastric reflux is getting a lot of hype in the media now as a major disorder. It is not. It is a major mineral deficiency. A very good book which discusses this subject is Your Health & Wellness by M Ted Morter, Jr (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0883910225/002-4395429-0264013?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance) The language is simple and easy to understand.

In short, eat your sea weeds. Sea weeds contribute valuable sodium, plus all the other minerals in the ocean, roughly 60-80 different minerals. Sea weeds support the thyroid gland as no other food can. It seems your body is trying everything it can to tell you what it needs.

I am concerned that you are overzealous and underinformed about how to enter the raw life, and that you may be causing your system to become dangerously imbalanced. Please consult a PROFESSIONAL healthcare practitioner who is pro-raw...before you harm yourself.

PS (I would like to talk to you about your insulin resistance, too. Lack of chromium and biotin in the SAD diet creates this condition. Raw will reverse it in time, but you need to know what to eat to speed this up. The short course is this: sprouts! especially tiny beans, but other sprouts as well.)

[vegggeeemom]

I have read Tim tell someone this as well.
I totally agree.
I have slipped about 4 times. But, guess what? I did not start from day one again.
I would get so discouraged and probably quit saying, I am never going to win this race.
I've been doing raw since Sept. 1st. and am doing the 90 day challenge.

Also, I remember being extremely tired for well, close to a month.
It was very hard to keep on sometimes. I doubted that I'd ever get over that feeling.
I had close to a week that each night at the exact same time I just could not function anymore.
My eyes wanted to close all on their own and I just could not move. I know mine was due to not eating nearly enough.
It did pass finally. I am out of the woods and onto higher ground.
I don't always have huge energy bursts, just sometimes where my legs can't sit still.
But, for the most part, I just can go longer in my day without feeling completely wiped out.
It's a great feeling.
Stick to raw and believe me, you WILL see huge benefits.
Looking forward to hearing about them!

[honeybee joy]

veggiemom,
thank you for telling me about your story. It is very encoraging to hear. Thank you for your encoraging words.

MoniDew,

I am definitely enthusiastic about doing raw but I would not say in a overzealous way.
You are correct, I do not know what the heck I am doing when it comes to being raw, that is why I am on here. I have read a few books about being raw, but none of them talk about any of the stuff that you are telling me, which is rather interesting. Will that book that you recomend educate me on the stuff that you have mentioned? How the heck do I find a healthcare practioner that is pro-raw, that is a endocronologist that can deal w/ empty sella syndrome, hypothyroidism, low adrenal, growth hormone deficiancy, insulin resistance, acid-reflux, IBS & maybe more? Should I Just eat SAD till I find this person?
I would love to talk with you about the insulin resistance & about the sprout thing.
Any advice would be appriciated.
Lissa

[MoniDew]

You know honey, I did not mean to discourage you, just to caution you. I just don't want you to harm yourself.

The book I recommended is a very clear presentation of pH balance, from a biochemical standpoint, written in clear language by a chiropractic physician. Often, chiropractors and naturopaths are educated to deal with all of the conditions you mentioned and more. Yes, raw is the solution, but it has to be an EDUCATED raw diet. A diet constructed to deal with all of your many problems. Certain foods (even raw) may be better or worse for various conditions, blood types, etc. Your many difficult health issues require a highly educated health care professional. With all you have going on, you can't afford to take chances with the scattershot approach.

Please don't be discouraged by my cautions. I am just looking at you from a practitioner's point of view. Occupational hazzard. I wish I knew enough to deal with all of the issues you mentioned. Many of them, I feel extremely confident that I could help you with. But one of the conditions you mentioned, I never even heard of. I am not educated (yet) to the point where I would feel safe taking you on by myself. Maybe a nutritionist and a naturopath together could advise you...? I don't know.

All I can say is, it is your health, your life, your body. You will have to do what you feel is best for yourself. And my job is to be supportive, encouraging, and sympathetic. As your faceless cyber friend, I can also caution when I sense trouble coming, in the hopes it can be completely avoided - and your life can continue comfortably along - with your present issues reversing as they should with raw and without the complication of ANOTHER issue added to the present list. That's all I intended to do.