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iceshadow
04-22-2012, 01:17 PM
I'm just looking at getting a juicer and experimenting with juices, but as a diabetic can someone advise on the juices that I should avoid with this condition? Thanks.

walnutty
04-23-2012, 03:38 AM
I am diabetic and I do not avoid any juices if I am 100% raw. I have been known to drink 6 cups of fresh orange juice with no raise in blood sugars. Raw heals!!!

Aleesha Sattva
04-23-2012, 12:06 PM
but if you aren't 100%... go with green juices. adding greens to your juices lowers the sugar content significantly.

Mary Kay
04-24-2012, 12:53 AM
I don't think it wise to do sweet fruit juices without any pulp in them if you're diabetic.

My thoughts anyway.

Mary Kay

walnutty
04-24-2012, 07:06 PM
I don't think it wise to do sweet fruit juices without any pulp in them if you're diabetic.

My thoughts anyway.

Mary Kay


If they do not raise blood sugars, then why not?

PansyLo
04-24-2012, 07:12 PM
Perhaps start with green juices, carrot and celery etc is nice.

Then as you've been raw for longer carefully introduce sweeter juices and see how you react?

I have no experience with diabetes but I'm sugar sensitive. It really effects my moods, temperament and sleep. I found chlorella helped even out my blood glucose levels, that and just cutting down on how much sugar I consumed, even if it is raw natural sugars.
Would chlorella help if you were diabetic?

iceshadow
04-24-2012, 10:07 PM
Thanks for your replies. Actually, my diabetes has just worsened and although I haven't been 100% raw by any stretch - just dipping my toe in really so far - I think the only way forward apart from taking additional medication, is to go almost totally or totally raw. I think therefore I probably agree now with the advice in my case not to have sweet juices - I don't know if its possible for a pancreas to heal in the future when its got so damaged (I'm quite new to all this) so perhaps have to stick to mainly green juices at least for now.

Thanks PansyLo for the mention of chlorella - I had been thinking of taking it anyway as apparently its good to help get rid of toxins and I've been taking a psych drug for many years (which led to me getting diabetes!) which will have led to a build up, so chlorella sounds like it could be doubly helpful.

michigan roman
04-24-2012, 10:34 PM
Jay Kordich
Diabetes? We have a juice tonic that Dr. Walker and Dr. Gerson shared with me many decades ago that they say help regular blood sugar. Here's it is:

1 cup Brussels Sprouts (raw)
1 cup Green String Beans

PansyLo
04-24-2012, 10:46 PM
Sounds like a good plan iceshadow. :) Hope it works!

It's a shame sugar has to be so delicious and yet wreck so much havoc on ones system.

iceshadow
04-25-2012, 04:22 AM
Jay Kordich - thanks very much for posting that info - unfortunately I can't buy brussel sprouts here in the UK at the moment - but look forward to trying it when they are in season.

PansyLo - i agree - I've been doing some research and it seems vegetable oils are also troublesome too - but people here may already know that.

Daisyhead
04-25-2012, 01:33 PM
Hi there Iceshadow. I am also a diabetic. Before going raw I took 5 injections a day, 60 units of Levemir in the morning and again at night, 10-20 units of Novolog before every meal. My fasting blood sugars were over 200 or more. Throughout the day my sugars would go over 400 and sometimes 500.

After going 100% raw, my sugars have only been over 200 maybe twice and that has been all day long, even after a fruit/green smoothie. My fastings have been 105 or lower.

I now take 45 units of Levemir twice a day. I NO LONGER NEED INSULIN BEFORE MEALS AT ALL!!!! I am hoping that with time, I will eliminate all my insulin.

I drink green smoothies with all kinds of fruit. My sugars respond well with berries and greens. I experimented by taking my readings one hour after a smoothie to see how my body reacted to the fruits I used. Bananas affect my sugar so I limit them. Experiment with how your body reacts. I also noticed that if I used more greens in my smoothie that my sugar stays lower.

Going raw is so very important. I tried high protein/low carb diets, but they didn't work for me and my diabetes. Raw has been a miracle for me. I just reached my 2 month mark. I feel better than ever.

You can do this!! Your food will be healing your body not killing it. I wish you all the best. Let me know if I can help.

iceshadow
04-25-2012, 03:11 PM
Thanks very much for your reply Daisyhead - that's great to hear how much benefit you've had from going raw. I've made up my mind to try and get a Vitamix now secondhand rather than a juicer (as I can't afford both at the moment) so that I can make green smoothies too.

I'm interested to hear what you are saying about bananas as I had wondered if I would be able to have them because I thought they would be good to thicken a smoothie up. I'd be grateful if you could recommend any particular combinations for smoothies that work well for blood sugars and are palatable too.

I too have been experimenting with high protein/low carb and it doesn't seem to have worked for me either - I wake in the night thirsty and early in the morning too - its horrible.

I'm currently on 2000mg Metformin - but over time my blood sugars have been rising - which unfortunately my doctor seems a bit complacent about - and I was too with my diet I'm ashamed to say until i started waking with this terrible thirst and found out that i had retinopathy. I'm booked in for a review with the diabetes nurse and it seems very likely that she will want to add in another medication, but I'm really hoping that going raw will reverse that. It's taken me a while to come round to the idea - partly cos its so different from what i've been used to - but I'm finally determined.

Daisyhead
04-26-2012, 03:39 PM
I'm interested to hear what you are saying about bananas as I had wondered if I would be able to have them because I thought they would be good to thicken a smoothie up. I'd be grateful if you could recommend any particular combinations for smoothies that work well for blood sugars and are palatable too.

When I put plenty of greens in my smoothies, I get less of a sugar reaction. Start with Spinach; it is very palatable. Switch around to other leafy greens too. I use a mix of lettuces and kale and also some micro greens. Berries have a low glycemic index and are great for masking stronger green flavors.

If you find that your blood sugar goes too high with bananas, use avocado for thickening. It doesn't raise my sugar at all. After having more time raw, go back and try bananas again. As your body heals you might notice that you can expand your fruit selection.

...found out that i had retinopathy.

After going raw, I had to go back to my eye doctor to adjust my prescription. My sight improved so much that I only needed about half the prescription I had before raw.

Living Food
04-26-2012, 04:40 PM
I'm interested to hear what you are saying about bananas as I had wondered if I would be able to have them because I thought they would be good to thicken a smoothie up. I'd be grateful if you could recommend any particular combinations for smoothies that work well for blood sugars and are palatable too.

Soaked chia seeds added to a smoothie will thicken it up quite well and not really impact the taste at all. Try adding a couple tablespoons and see how it goes. Avocados also work well, like Daisyhead said. Since you have diabetes, it would probably be a better idea anyway to focus more on fat then sugar for a while and see if it helps.

Living Food
04-26-2012, 04:43 PM
I've heard that coconut oil is also good for diabetes (and weight loss, if that's a problem for you), you could try adding a little of that to your smoothies. I can't vouch for it positively effecting diabetics (maybe someone else can?), but I know that it aids with weight loss, your immune system, and your thyroid function.

iceshadow
04-27-2012, 08:07 AM
Just wanted to say a big thank you for all your replies. Had a setback today, and coming back on here helped to encourage me to keep looking forward with the raw approach.

Daisyhead
04-27-2012, 09:31 AM
Setbacks happen!!! It's in the past. Learn what caused it so you can avoid in the future and move on. You have made an excellent choice in going raw. Let yourself make mistakes without giving up. :))) Have a great day and happy weekend!!!

Mary Kay
04-27-2012, 11:13 AM
Hmmm, the title of the thread is about juices. Juices and smoothies are two different things. Juicing an apple or other sugary fruits and drinking the juice alone will def not be good for a diabetic. A smoothie however, that contains lots of fiber may not affect a diabetic as much due to the fiber, the amount of sugars, and the degree of sensitivity of the individual. I absolutely say "NO" to sweet fruit juices, but say "MAYBE" to some smoothies.

However, if you're diabetic, I think you've probably also got candida, so I'd try not to feed those candida buggers and would not do the sweet smoothies either. That's just my idea though. There are other opinions. I'd also only do sweet fruit sparingly...again, my thoughts. Some disagree - those who say you can eat lots of sweet fruits if you really cut down on the fat.

You have to make your own decision based on your body.

HTH throwing my two cents in!

Mary Kay

Daisyhead
04-27-2012, 12:42 PM
Yea, I did get kind of off topic. lol I responded to her about smoothies because I am also diabetic, but I have no experience with juicing. I figured I would give her an option. Mary Kay, thanks for your response about juicing. I also worry about candida. Right now, I need to have the fruits to stay raw, but I do plan to address candida once I am strongly raw. I have been 100% for 2 months now. Yay!!!

Mary Kay
04-28-2012, 10:09 PM
Daislyhead, I've gotten way farther off topic than that!!!! LOL...Just wanted to make it clear to the OP who may be a newbie...just in case! And BTW, how's your diabetes doing? What have your results been lately? Sounds like you're doing well!

Mary Kay

delmar
04-29-2012, 02:34 AM
It would seem to me that the correct question is not "which juices to avoid" but which juices to take in moderation. I know of very few diabetic diets that require that you avoid all sugar. Though your body may respond badly to more than just a tiny amount. At least until your health improves.

Daisyhead
04-30-2012, 03:38 PM
I am doing wonderfully, Mary Kay. Thanks for asking. I think that choosing to go raw was the best choice I have ever made. I am learning so much about my body. I haven't yet been able to eliminate insulin totally, but my numbers went from being in the high 300s down to the low 100s. That to me is miraculous.

I have been insulin dependent for over 2 years. Now, I take less than half the insulin I had been taking.

I've lost 3 belt notches. :)

Mary Kay
04-30-2012, 11:15 PM
Daisyhead: WOOT WOOT!!!

Mary Kay