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spaveg
03-25-2012, 06:52 PM
Hello all,
I would like to know which nuts are really raw and which are not.

I have been told that cashew are boiled, that pistachio are roasted and almonds are also cooked before packaged.

Is that true? If yes, how can I make sure I buy raw nuts and not cooked nuts?

thanks

Living Food
03-25-2012, 06:58 PM
Very Very few nuts are truly raw. You generally have to by ones intended for sprouting, or else get them directly off the tree. Even most nuts labeled "raw" are dead, they just haven't been roasted - but they were still pasteurized or fumigated with chemicals. If you buy from the supermarket, nuts in the shell are most likely to be raw.


Is that true? If yes, how can I make sure I buy raw nuts and not cooked nuts?

Certain websites and health food stores sell truly raw nuts. If you go to websites that sell nuts intended for sprouting, or else from raw food websites (sproutpeople.org, rawfromthefarm.com, etc) you can find truly raw nuts. They're generally more expensive then pasteurized nuts, though.

If you search this site you can find lots of information about raw nuts.

mtgrl788
03-26-2012, 11:56 AM
Certain websites and health food stores sell truly raw nuts. If you go to websites that sell nuts intended for sprouting, or else from raw food websites (sproutpeople.org, rawfromthefarm.com, etc) you can find truly raw nuts. They're generally more expensive then pasteurized nuts, though.

Why is that raw nuts are more expensive? It has less steps than a pasturized nut or roasted nut. Is it because they have to have a special license? I know with raw milk that license is very expensive so the milk is more.

tofumond
01-18-2013, 11:47 AM
If you buy from the supermarket, nuts in the shell are most likely to be raw.

I buy nuts from the supermarket that lie there loosely and I can pick the amount of nuts I want (so, they're not pre-packaged). And they still have their shell (I buy walnuts, hazelnuts & peanuts - that's all they offer.) So they are most likely raw? Really? I'm asking again, cause I can't quite believe it..

They also have pre-packaged Brazil nuts and pecans without shell. They are probably not raw, right?

I hope I still get an answer to this, as this thread is pretty old. ._.

MysticTree
01-18-2013, 12:00 PM
Part of this answer is - it depends. You are in Europe so generally nuts won't be pastuerised either with heat or with chemicals. If you buy organic ones then there really shouldn't be those chemicals. Many nuts with the shells removed have had heat used in the shelling process. There are raw nuts sold online and some people choose to be not too choosy when it comes to buying only raw nuts. In theory, nuts in their shells will be most raw. They may have had their shells treated on the outside so again the organic ones are the way to go. It's tricky I think. I can get almonds in the UK supermarket that are shelled and will sprout. That's raw enough for me!

DebB
01-18-2013, 12:33 PM
I order my raw (organic) nuts from Azure Standard. They say that their almonds are 'flash pasteurized' for a few seconds and that they're still alive. I can agree with this as we had an almond tree growing in our compost pile!

Living Food
01-18-2013, 01:32 PM
Nuts in the shell a the most likely to be raw of any nuts you'll find at a supermarket, but it's no guarantee. In the shell or nut, all almonds are dead (either pasteurized or fumigated). Some of the other unshelled nuts may be raw, but it's just as likely they're pasteurized. The only way to know for sure is to try and sprout them yourself; if they sprout you know they're still alive.

None of the cashews are raw either, but then they're not technically nuts (neither are peanuts).

If you want truly raw nuts you should get them from sites that sell raw food or sprouting seeds, although even then you'll want to check with the sellers to make sure. If you can get raw nuts, though, sprouted nuts are a real treat.

Living Food
01-18-2013, 01:34 PM
If you buy from the supermarket, nuts in the shell are most likely to be raw.

Sorry if I caused confusion with my earlier answer, what I meant was that nuts in the shell are the most likely to be raw, not that they're very likely to be raw.

MysticTree
01-18-2013, 01:36 PM
come to that, almonds aren't nuts either but that is beside the point. In the US you have a problem with pasteurisation. We don't in the UK. I specifically don't buy almonds grown in the US to be on the safe side. Since Debs can get her almonds to sprout and so can I, it seems to suggest they aren't dead

Living Food
01-18-2013, 05:10 PM
Most pasteurized/fumigated almonds are dead. Azure Standard is one of the few sources of almonds that are still alive and viable in the US.

I've tested store-bought almonds, believe me...they're dead (in the US).

MysticTree
01-18-2013, 07:01 PM
Most pasteurized/fumigated almonds are dead. Azure Standard is one of the few sources of almonds that are still alive and viable in the US.I've tested store-bought almonds, believe me...they're dead (in the US). tofumond is in Germany.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
01-19-2013, 10:05 AM
Nuts are a very interesting and misunderstood food by the raw community. There is the belief that nuts are everlasting and can be eaten all year around, but nothing can be further from the truth. Nuts are a seasonal food, they are a cold weather food mainly, so this should be kept in mind for very important reasons which will now follow in this post.

lf you eat nuts out of season, they will rebel. All land foods eaten out of seaon will rebel with exception of only one food, sprouts.

Sprouting nuts allows one to learn much about the character of nuts because it allows one to observe how quickly a nut goes rancid and how quickly significant electrical frequency is lost from the harvested nuts. After three months the loss of frequency is SIGNIFICANT, and the high fat content of the nuts are well on their way to going rancid. Six month old nuts are not health food!!!

See, this is the problem. How old are the nuts in the shops? Most are heat treated anyway. lf you want peace of mind, the only way to get nuts is to pick them yourself, but doing this you know how old the nuts are and you can study the farm and see if any chemicals are being used etc. Look for weed eating goats, this is always a good sign. You can't get health by convenience, you need to work hard for it and travel for it.

When buying nuts, always make sure you visit a small farm run by the owners, and not a farm run by an agent.

These are the main issues with nuts. Seriously, the nut issue is a very hard one to crack, it took me lots of work to work out the mystery of nuts.

Best to eat fresh picked nuts within the first 4 - 5 months max after harvesting. Best to also sprout various seeds for when the nuts aren't in season.

tofumond
01-19-2013, 10:44 AM
Thank you for your replies! I'm happy I could revive this thread!

I found some online shops which sell raw nuts, so I can still order from there instead of buying them at the supermarket! But I guess now it's still cold weather, so I'll buy nuts at the supermarket.

MysticTree
01-19-2013, 10:57 AM
lf you eat nuts out of season, they will rebel. All land foods eaten out of seaon will rebel with exception of only one food, sprouts. Most things are in season somewhere in the world most of the time. If you are a locavore then you won't be eating anything shipped in but, you wouldn't be eating it anyway because if it's out of season locally.

Any nut still in its shell which has not been heat treated or chemically pastuerised is gonna be fine. Obviously not as far as you are concerned but you operate to a differently perceived standard.

As a general rule buying nuts from a company with a high turnover will mean fresher nuts. The other thing is that rancid nuts taste horrible so we spit them out.

DebB
01-19-2013, 11:32 AM
I store all our nuts in the freezer. I've got the space and feel better with them frozen vs. sitting at room temperature. Even my "staple stash" (soaked, sprouted and dehydrated nuts and seeds) go back in the freezer, ready to use for recipes.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
01-19-2013, 10:43 PM
As a general rule buying nuts from a company with a high turnover will mean fresher nuts.
This could be true if the nuts aren't always sourced locally, but what if they are? What if they are all sourced locally, this means that all the nuts will be picked in one go. Then the farm may store the nuts in a warehouse for a few weeks before they shjip them all over the country. Then they may sit in another warehouse for months before they end up being distributed to their final retail destination. Then they may be bough a few months later again. See, nuts bought from companies may have been sitting around a long time before anyone customer ever buys them.


The other thing is that rancid nuts taste horrible so we spit them out.
But what about slightly rancid nuts like the 5 month old nuts that start going moldy and will no longer sprout? They taste fine, but they are virtually dead.

MysticTree
01-20-2013, 12:38 AM
UK sourced nuts have a very short season in the shops - about a month, if that. Even very slightly rancid nuts are easy to taste and spit out. This forum is not dedicated to eating sprouts only. You should set one up to get that message across if you want to keep telling people that their raw food is wrong. We are doing fine.

Non
01-22-2013, 03:20 AM
Nuts are a very interesting and misunderstood food by the raw community. There is the belief that nuts are everlasting and can be eaten all year around, but nothing can be further from the truth. Nuts are a seasonal food, they are a cold weather food mainly, so this should be kept in mind for very important reasons which will now follow in this post.

lf you eat nuts out of season, they will rebel. All land foods eaten out of seaon will rebel with exception of only one food, sprouts.

Sprouting nuts allows one to learn much about the character of nuts because it allows one to observe how quickly a nut goes rancid and how quickly significant electrical frequency is lost from the harvested nuts. After three months the loss of frequency is SIGNIFICANT, and the high fat content of the nuts are well on their way to going rancid. Six month old nuts are not health food!!!

See, this is the problem. How old are the nuts in the shops? Most are heat treated anyway. lf you want peace of mind, the only way to get nuts is to pick them yourself, but doing this you know how old the nuts are and you can study the farm and see if any chemicals are being used etc. Look for weed eating goats, this is always a good sign. You can't get health by convenience, you need to work hard for it and travel for it.

When buying nuts, always make sure you visit a small farm run by the owners, and not a farm run by an agent.

These are the main issues with nuts. Seriously, the nut issue is a very hard one to crack, it took me lots of work to work out the mystery of nuts.

Best to eat fresh picked nuts within the first 4 - 5 months max after harvesting. Best to also sprout various seeds for when the nuts aren't in season.

What if the nuts.are out of season but still germinated is that alright?

Also nuts are hard to sprout due to shelling so I don't do it. I soak them and redry them.

But pretty much the only nut I'm eating now are almonds and hazelnuts and soaked and redried. The almonds don't sprout big tails if any at all you just see a stub. I haven't tried sprouting hazelnuts.

Non
01-22-2013, 03:28 AM
This could be true if the nuts aren't always sourced locally, but what if they are? What if they are all sourced locally, this means that all the nuts will be picked in one go. Then the farm may store the nuts in a warehouse for a few weeks before they shjip them all over the country. Then they may sit in another warehouse for months before they end up being distributed to their final retail destination. Then they may be bough a few months later again. See, nuts bought from companies may have been sitting around a long time before anyone customer ever buys them.


But what about slightly rancid nuts like the 5 month old nuts that start going moldy and will no longer sprout? They taste fine, but they are virtually dead.

What about sprouted nuts out of season? Are those ok?

Right now the only nuts I have are almonds and hazelnuts. The almonds dont really sprout but show a stub at the end. Sunflower seeds do sprout well though so I may have to consider sprouting them for a day or so.
Since they don't sprout I only soak them. Same with seeds also. 12hr soak with a small amt of lemon or acv and a pinch of salt in the water.. not enough to inhibit germination. After soaking I salt them and dehydrate.

Nuts and seeds are not very.palatable to me when wet so I do dry them. Except if I make a paste or "dressing". not really a dressing as its only used to coat my sunflower greens. The sunflower greens leave my mouth dry and tongue gets black if I eat them by thenselves so I usually end up blending a mixture of nuts and seeds into a thick dressing or paste to immerse the greens in.