View Full Version : why dont people get it!?!
03-23-2012, 09:29 AM
why are so many people so against the raw food diet? My entire family and my boyfriend all think I'm crazy! They keep telling me that I'll be depleted. But wait a second...I feel amazing! I've tried so many diets and I have never felt as good eating any other was other than raw. Here's an even weirder thing. I went to see an acupuncturist and he told me that I should be eating meat. I've always been mostly vegan and since I got candida he said that eating only veggies wouldnt be enough. I actually listened and for 2 weeks I ate meat and veggies. And of course, I felt so crappy. I had such negative emotions like anger, irritability and aggression. I felt weighed down and low in energy. I said F this, Im going back to raw! I havent even been eating raw for a week and already I feel so energized! Why do people not see how good this way of eating is? I understand that its difficult to stick with but they dont even try it. They just criticize. It makes it difficult to continue on when all the people around you are warning you against deficiencies. Its great to come to a place like this and feel supported. It makes me feel strong and with you amazing help I know I can do this! I just had to vent. Thanks for reading!
03-23-2012, 10:38 AM
I try not to say Raw food diet I do say I like eating healthy. I am sure you have more nutrient dense foods than your cooked counterparts. Keep it up don't let others discourage you.
03-23-2012, 10:42 AM
^ Haha I just vented in another thread about this same thing!
What frustrates me is that people moan and winge CONSTANTLY about how they can never lose weight, how they're tired, how they feel ill, their stomach hurts, their back hurts, they think there's something wrong with them...
You offer them an option like raw food and they think you're insane.
I took a photo today without any make up at all, hair done or flattering angles/lighting just a head shot in a day lit room. Due to my slip up week I'm back to looking how I have since I was about 13, just dead. I look seriously dreadful without make-up my hair looks dry and brittle and a mess.
It'll be something for me to look back on once my body has had the chance to heal long term. Let's see how insane I am in 6 months time!
03-23-2012, 10:44 AM
My final attitude to other people is to not shove it in their faces and to not let their opinions effect me but create a change.
After a lot of thinking about it I eventually concluded that: "I'm not going to let raw food define me or let others define me by my diet but let my energy, passion and good attitude define raw food for other people. :)"
03-23-2012, 11:13 AM
Yup, we've got each other here on this board, but other than that we are basically on our own. It really bothers me that we are seen as crackpots (my father recently told me that my diet was going to cause an early onset of dementia. He says there was an Indian study that was done concerning Vegetarians and this was their conclusion.).
I hate seeing suffering in humans and animals, raw food would help ease so much suffering, but SAD tastes good, so people aren't going to listen to us. It's so disheartening. You see so many people who are morbidly obese and you KNOW they don't want to be that way, but they choose some silly diet to follow instead of raw. Ahhh, I could go on forever. I need to understand that I can't change anyone; they must change themselves.
03-23-2012, 12:50 PM
It's just that SAD is the norm. People are just so fooled and so taken into the idea that they don't even realise how much rubbish they're really eating.
So many people I know are utterly convinced that they eat healthfully while cramming toxins into their body and few nutrients. I think if people just understood how fooled they are into thinking that normal food is what we should be eating they'd probably change. The smart people woud change anyway.
But people wont listen because they're convinced this is extreme. Lots of people think vegetarian is extreme never mind anything else... their knowledge of food is sickening.
There's nothing really all that extreme about raw food, just sticking to raw there's a huge variety of things to eat and make. There's really not that much change. You can still eat full hearty meals, you can still have your occasional dessert or your superfood chocolate truffles for a treat if that's the way you want to eat.
03-23-2012, 02:29 PM
Oh my gosh, my boyfriend is one of those people who is convinced that his diet is so healthy and then complains about why he doesnt feel well! In the afternoon he is so out of energy and tired that he just wants to lay in bed! His diet consists of meat, eggs, veggies, fruit, nuts and seeds. So basically he mostly does paleo. Then he tells me that cashews and bananas are bad for you because they create what chinese medicine calls "dampness". I'm like, I think meat is probably worse for you! Its frustrating because I feel so damn good and I want to share that with everyone! So when I told my boy this morning that maybe he should try a few days of raw (he's been complaining about not feeling very well) he said that he didnt want to do that because its energetically bad for the spleen. He's really into Chinese Medicine and you know, there is a lot of truth to the system but it says that one should not eat raw veggies and should mostly eat grains and cooked veggies. Well, when I eat like that I have no energy. It just doenst make sense. I wonder if people just resist what is actually good for them? Maybe thats where the strong aversion to it comes from. BUt hey, why not try it and then talk? I actually just talked to my sis on the phone and we were talking about vegetarianism. She said that she really supports vegetarianism but is against "extremes" like the raw food diet. Its just so funny to see the paradigm that we are in these days. Research shows that a plant based diet is the healthiest yet people dont wanna give up their old ways. They go for medication before they change their lifestyle. Its so sad!
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-23-2012, 05:42 PM
They keep telling me that I'll be depleted. [quote]
[quote] he said that eating only veggies wouldnt be enough.
We have to face reality as well. You might feel really good, but the probability of facing what they warned about in the quotes is a high possibility as well if you do this long term. Vegies aren't often enough, and many vegans do get depleted. All l am saying is that you need to be careful and try to make at least 50% of the foods in your diet highly nutritious foods in the long term, but if you are under high stress l would suggest making 100% of the foods you eat highly nutritious foods.
That being said...SAD eaters are depleted also, so the answer isn't to eat their diet, but the answer also isn't to eat a common vegan diet of fruit and vegies either. My suggestion is to eat how you are at the moment and enjoy living raw, but always try to strive towards the higher powered foods like sprouts and sea vegetables and algaes over time when you are able to include them in your diet.
We really need to see this in a balanced way and not live in fantasy land. Listening to your body is one thing that can be good, but it can also lead you astray because feeling good by eating light foods can also mean you are starving of nutrients that will only become apparent in the longer term. lf raw vegan was so easy, more people would be doing it over the long term and thriving, but in reality that doesn't happen.
Write this out and stick it on your refrigerator and back of the toilet door and read it every day.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-23-2012, 05:49 PM
A lot of people around me are vegans (most of them) and many eat lots of raw, and a bunch are 100% raw, so l don't encounter any problems with criticism. Besides, the SAD people l do have to hang around with do know what l am like and just leave me to it. l don't want to be around SAD eaters if l can help it because l can feel their coarse vibrations and it brings me down if l don't keep my protective orb strong during the day. lt's easy to become infected by SAD folks if you don't meditate. l am not saying SAD folks are bad (many don't know any better), but their vibrations aren't positive regardless of whether they act like nice people or not (eating death does bring negative entities into the body regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, and hanging around folks who eat death and full of negative entities also infects us. All it means is that you need to mediate if you don't want to be infected. Symptoms of infection are negative attitudes, ego and wanting unnecessary material things).
People here may not want to hear all these things, but too bad, l am not interested in telling people what they want to conveniently hear. l only want to try and tell people the reality. lf you get sensitive enough and in touch with your real self, you will realise what l am saying ion the last two posts is SPOT ON.
Another big problem is when people try to heal people of their sickness. You are breaking the laws of nature when you do such things. lt is not up to you to heal anybody, the person must do it themselves. You can advise people how to get well, but you can't heal them yourselves. People like Brian Clement and others face a hard time in the next life for doing the work they are doing, they have definitely crossed the line.
Raw Angel Mom
03-23-2012, 06:50 PM
My first time that i even considered to be a simple vegetarian, i thought an entire army was against me, lol.... I wasn't prepare for the pressure and judgement so i went to my old diet. Then in 2000 after realizing that million of people are vegetarian because of their religion and they work hard in the field and have children, then i said to myself "Wait a minute, i don't like meat, i quit". This time, i was prepare for the pressure and i had a plan. I find that 12 steps to raw food summarize very well what i have done.
I learned also of not talking about my diet unless someone truly want to know and i feel they are open to receive.
Educate yourself so you can have strong foundation always.
Today, my family that thought i was crazy for being vegetarian in the first place, are seeing clearly that i am still there and ask question about raw vegan food. They came along and are ok that i am raw vegan, because they can sense that i have strong foundation and i don't seek to change them. I seek only to inspire without imposing. Once your family and friend realize your true intention, they will leave you alone.
There are so much fears around food. Think about this, eating cook food and loaded with fructose or dangerous preservative or food enhancer, are as worst as a powerful drug. If you suggest to anyone addicted to a substance, they will get very defensive.
Read 12 steps to raw food, you will have great idea on how to cope with family and friends.
You deserve to be radiant, healthy and free. No need to wait for anyone approval and claim back your power
Because you are worthy and deserve all the goods in your life.
All is well!
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-23-2012, 07:16 PM
One thing we NEVER should do is judge people, because we are all on a journey. l never look down on anyone these days because l am far from perfect myself. We can't change the world, but we can help change people IF they want to make changes. l love the SAD folks as much as the raw vegan folks (everyone is on a journey...some of us find a better way quicker than others, but it doesn't mean anyone is better than anyone else).
People may think i'm a guru type, but l still have my challenges and areas to work on. l still wear leather sole shoes everyday, wool trousers and coats and silk hankies that go in my breast pocket, and silk cravats, and have done so for many years. But that is something l need to work on and learn to wear vegan clothing, it is my biggest challenge by far. My typical look is like this:
At least l am realistic and know l have lots of work to do to become a better person, we all do in this world. l might eat well and reduce my karma, but l am still contributing to creulty and killing by wearing such clothing and l WILL have a big price to pay in the afterlife for that. So how compassionate am l really?...not as compassionate as l would like to be because l am still a lower level being as can be seen by my clothing choices. But l am on a journey like everyone else, but l am improving.
See...you may think l was harsh in my previous two posts here, but truely...l am being realistic, as l am with myself.
03-24-2012, 07:21 AM
Raw Angel Mom, I definitely agree with you. The best thing to do is lead by example. I havent been on raw for very long so they dont have any reason to believe that it is beneficial. This is how we start a revolution though right? A RAWvolution! I love the way I feel but I've only been raw for a week. I really hope that I can stick with it and be raw for a year, 2 years, 5, 10 etc. This sort of choice is frowned upon and hence it makes it difficult to stick with when there isnt support from your loved ones. I respect all of you so much for choosing to do whats right for your health regardless of what others say. Thats very brave!
Mr. Raw, I definitely hear what youre saying about the sprouts and sea veggies. I'm trusting that my taste will change and my body will be able to adjust to eating the more powerful foods. Right now, its very tough to stomach. BUT, it is much better to eat 100% raw vegan than to eat things like rice, meat, bread, dairy, etc. My body actually knows what to do with fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds.
Wanna know something cool? My boyfriend told me yesterday that I've been so happy and positive lately. Basically, since I started eating raw my mood has been so good and my energy levels have been off the roof. I am aware that eventually as my body settles into this way of eating I will probably have moments where I will feel tired and depleted. Then I will probably have to start eating more sprouts and sea vegs. I always want to strive for health! What good is life if you arent healthy and well?
03-24-2012, 11:27 AM
People don't like seeing others progress for the better. It threatens them, because it makes their own shortcomings, bad habits and addictions harder to hide. When everyone is eating pizza and soda and burgers and taco bell 7 days a week, you can convince yourself that it's okay. Because you're "normal"... when people start around you start making positive changes, you feel threatened.
"You" = typical person eating a SAD diet. Obviously some of us are super strong warriors who aren't afraid to break away from the herd and do our own thing. :) That strength is what makes us a threat, and what makes weaker people take out their own insecurities by making fun of us.
03-24-2012, 05:53 PM
I agree with you climbing, I think people feel attached to their bad habits and know it internally but their addiction keeps them from making changes so when someone else is making a change they feel annoyed. A lot of the people I know dont really eat a SAD diet though. They actually think that they are really healthy. For example, my dad will buy an organic cereal and eat it with low fat milk and berries for breakfast, a sandwich with whole grain bread for lunch, snack on fruit and chicken or fish with salad for dinner. He also eats oatmeal cream pies as dessert and says they are healthy because there is no cholesterol and because they are oatmeal. A lot of it is ignorance. I also notice that many people dont really realize that they are not feeling well. My mom is constantly suffering from headaches but she thinks she is really healthy. My boyfriend is always feeling tired but he thinks he eats really well. I remember when I thought I was really healthy. I was really suffering from a lot of things like digestive issues, feeling tired, emotional imbalances and headaches. I wouldnt really ever connect that with my diet. I think people are starting to wake up but we just need to continue living by example so that more people come on board
03-24-2012, 10:41 PM
Truth passes through three stages......
First it is ridiculed.
Second it is violently opposed.
Third it is accepted as self evident.
In general, people fear what they don't know and what people don't know they destroy.......
Humble like a child is the only way to learn........
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-25-2012, 02:51 AM
In a world where we destroy everything that is good, you can't expect too much understanding and compassion...it's the low level vibration of the world we live in, so of course we destroy our air and destroy our animals and destroy our water and destroy our soil and destroy our forests and destroy each other and pretty much destroy anything we can that sustains our life on the planet...so of course many folks won't understand a raw vegan lifestyle. You can't expect too much of people...it's a step by step process that takes lots and lots of time over many lifetimes to come to grips with these concepts. Some souls are old enough to understand it and ready to go home, most aren't...so what. We all will understand veganism one day, but that time is still eons of time off unless a dramatic shift in consciousness occurs by the cause of outside forces.
Only when we have a world that has love and compassion and a strong move towards peace, only then will we have populations that understand veganism, but until that time of peace comes, that is never going to happen. We live in a carnivore's world with the lack of insight that goes with it.
WE are just like fish in a fishbowl, we live in an imaginary world where most of us don't really have a clue how things really are and how things can be. But when we take the steps towards a vegan diet, l believe that that is the very beginning stages before we become enlightened with real knowledge. We have strayed so far from our home, so we have forgotten, but deep in all of our subconscious minds we do know the vegan diet is ideal, but in this world of coarse vibrations it is hard to connect with our real selves and remember. Give it time, for we all will remember one day.
03-25-2012, 08:53 AM
A friend once told me: "Never judge" and "Have no expectations" Apply it to your raw journey and you'll never be disappointed.
03-25-2012, 10:12 AM
I also get a lot of criticism and it's because people don't want to change the way they eat. People complain about weight and energy and being sick and here I am feeling great, never sick and eating raw. I don't even eat 100 percent raw but my meal replacement gives me all the stuff I need to feel amazing.
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