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Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 10:25 AM
I saw on another post that blending destroys many of the nutrients in my greens. I was shocked to see this so I decided to make a thread regarding it so that it would be seen.

Have you heard about this? Is it true? What are the sources?

I was under the assumption that if I don't cook my greens that they maintain their nutrients.

Please reply because I am having a little hissy fit over here. lol

streetsurfer
03-19-2012, 10:29 AM
replace the word many with the words a miniscule portion, then relax and drink up.

Living Food
03-19-2012, 10:35 AM
High speed blending does destroy many nutrients, becasue it oxidizes the food (just like cooking). I don't haev the time to find sources for you right now, but might get back to you later on that.

Still, if it comes down to blending and eating raw or eating cooked, blending is far better. Just try to blend it on a slower speed and don't blend it for very long.

Living Food
03-19-2012, 10:40 AM
If you blend you food for less then a minute then the nutrient loss will be minimal, I think.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Lots of general opinions floating around about blending, but what are the science? You get some folks like Victoria Boutenko and Kevin Gianni give opinions favouring blending, but their explanations are weak and lack proper qualified explanation. Victoria says that the fiber in blended foods helps stop it oxidising, but l know from my experiments that this is not the case. My apples still go brown after 30 seconds of blending, and my green smoothies start tasting horrible after 30 minutes. Sure the fiber slows down the oxidation, but it still does alot of damage to the nutrients and the smoothie goes down hill quite rapidly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8yc9RBgdAw&feature=related

Then we come to Brian Clement who really goes into detail and actually gives proper figures for the percentage of nutrition destroyed, not vague generalisations like everyone else gives. Some of the cheaper blenders kill around 85% of nutrition, and the vitamix kills around 92%. Now how did he come to these figures? Obviously he has had a very good scientist do the testing for him like he always does. Brian is not interested in theories, Brian is interested in fact. And given that he usually uses a world respected bio-energetic scientist Dr Valerie Hunt who is perfectly qualified to test the nutrients in foods/smoothies, it is no surprise that he was able to give specific percentages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwyPfZeVmlA

lf you don't believe that...try juicing a 2 trays of wheatgrass (enough to make you feel sick) and then blending 2 trays of wheatgrass and see if that makes you feel sick. That will give you your answer. The juiced wheatgrass (2 trays) will make you feel sick, but the blended wheatgrass will be easier on the system.

There is another video where Brain gives a reply to Victoria's video on blending, and he says the same thing l did, she isn't qualified to be making such statements without real science.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-19-2012, 10:55 AM
If you blend you food for less then a minute then the nutrient loss will be minimal, I think.

lt's the better way to go. l do small portions for 30 seconds.

When l first heard Brian mention the nutrients destroyed by blending, l didn't want to hear it either. l wanted to believe that blending was chopping the food really fine and made it extra absorbable and not destroying many nutrients (just like Vitamix claim), but l had to face a few ugly realities, and given my experiements and 6th sense, l knew he was on the money as usual with his conclusions. And given that he has that bioenergetic doctor (Dr Hunt) at his disposal, l had to take his conclusions seriously.

There is no need to worry about it. lt is good to know. All it means is that we can't rely on blending for our nutrition, it means that we must rely on juicing, algaes, cold pressed sprouted seed pastes, and sea vegetables as the main way to get our nutrition. No big deal...just need to save up and buy a juicer with a seed mill attachment.

As Brain rightly says, blending is a recreational food, and it is convenient, and it is good for starting the raw journey for beginners. Over time, when a person needs to eat less food as a seasoned raw fooder, a person will naturally gravitate towards juicing and eating their foods.

Look at all the negative youtube comments in Brian's video. lt says alot, largely, nutcases. Why such anger. People have bought into so much of the nonsense sprouted by our raw food leaders glorifying blending that they can't handle their fantasy bubble being burst. Move on people (who wrote the comments) and get over it!

Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 11:24 AM
Some of the cheaper blenders kill around 85% of nutrition, and the vitamix kills around 92%.

I'm confused. Are they killing that percentage of nutrients or are they leaving that percentage? I wouldn't call those number miniscule. That is close to how much is killed through cooking isn't it?

@ Living Food thanks for your response. I didn't mean you needed to look stuff up for me. I just thought if you knew of someone right off to share. Thanks for your info. :)

Living Food
03-19-2012, 11:28 AM
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The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-19-2012, 11:29 AM
I'm confused. Are they killing that percentage of nutrients or are they leaving that percentage?
Killing.


That is close to how much is killed through cooking isn't it?
Exactly, still....much better than cooking.

My bubble was burst when l first heard it too, but it took me about two minutes to get over it and move on. Glad l found out, knowledge is power!

Brian is spot on about combining greens and fruit in a smoothie too. l tried it once and never did it again. Disaster!!!

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
03-19-2012, 11:30 AM
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Living Food
03-19-2012, 11:37 AM
Haha...now you have it in your reply :D Could you remove that for me?

robh
03-19-2012, 12:00 PM
Quick, erase it! I can see your email! Heh

Mr. Raw, when you say "juicing", you don't mean the machines that use centrifugal force to propel the food through a fine metal mesh, correct? That seems just as brutal as blending.

Living Food
03-19-2012, 12:04 PM
No, we're talking about masticating juicers (I think). I also use a manual juicer -pretty sure Mr Raw does too - which I believe maintains much more nutrients becasue of the slower speed vs automatic juicers.

Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 12:31 PM
What is a manual juicer? Is it the kind that I have for citrus or something more complex?

Raw Angel Mom
03-19-2012, 12:38 PM
If your journey of raw food is young, please don't worry about this and have your smoothie. I have been on this journey for a while and i love my smoothie. I no longer use frozen fruit but only fresh. I blend just enough and don't over do it.

Unless you can chew every greens for a long period of time and wait it is transform into water in your mouth, blending is fantastic because it make the food into liquid and is great for busy people.

Drink your smoothie within the same day. Remember, you need to have a standard that will support your raw food journey. If you make it complicated, you are at high risk to go back in your old ways. What is best, doing smoothie or doing cook food?

If you have been on the raw journey for a while and you just want to upgrade your life style, then yes, stop blending or reduce blending but don't forget to focus on chewing.

You can also consider juicing with a low speed juicer that doesn't oxidize your food.

All is well!

Living Food
03-19-2012, 12:55 PM
What is a manual juicer?

Google is your friend

http://dailyjuicer.com/selecting-the-best-manual-juicer-for-wheat-grass-fruits-and-vegetables-and-more/


Is it the kind that I have for citrus or something more complex?

Well, I don't know what kind of juicer you have for citrus, now do I? *smile*


If your journey of raw food is young, please don't worry about this and have your smoothie. I have been on this journey for a while and i love my smoothie. I no longer use frozen fruit but only fresh. I blend just enough and don't over do it.

Unless you can chew every greens for a long period of time and wait it is transform into water in your mouth, blending is fantastic because it make the food into liquid and is great for busy people.

Drink your smoothie within the same day. Remember, you need to have a standard that will support your raw food journey. If you make it complicated, you are at high risk to go back in your old ways. What is best, doing smoothie or doing cook food?

If you have been on the raw journey for a while and you just want to upgrade your life style, then yes, stop blending or reduce blending but don't forget to focus on chewing.

You can also consider juicing with a low speed juicer that doesn't oxidize your food.

All is well!

Blending is a great transition tool for many people, and don't be afraid of doing it if it makes your life alot easier...just don't blend on the highest speeds, and don't overblend.


Drink your smoothie within the same day.

It's another trade-off - if your choices are to make a smoothie ahead of time or eat cooked food, choose the smoothie. However, it is far from ideal to keep smoothies for a while before you drink them. Even drinking them a few hours later results in lots of oxidition and nutrient loss.

MysticTree
03-19-2012, 01:55 PM
Heat will destroy vitamin c for example but even a bottle of dairy milk (which I know we don't drink but which I am mentioning for illustrative reasons) doesn't lose all its small amount of vit C even if left in the sun on the doorstep all morning.

I have seen Clement talking about nutrient loss and would be interested to know what tests were used and by whom. Valerie Hunt, if she carries out tests, is she using regular scientific tests which give amounts of nutrition or is she using tests that measure "vibrations"?

And please everyone stop talking about killing nutrients. Nutrients are not living things. They are molecules.

Blending is fine. Just enjoy your raw foods and stop buying into all this fear that people like to spread.

Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 02:00 PM
Living Food, Google lead me to Amazon with at least 10 different types of manual juicers. If my questions annoy you, feel free to ignore them. I am sure someone else will answer if they want to.

MysticTree
03-19-2012, 02:06 PM
Living Food, Google lead me to Amazon with at least 10 different types of manual juicers. If my questions annoy you, feel free to ignore them. I am sure someone else will answer if they want to.

I don't know what you have for juicing citrus but a manual juicer is something that isn't powered by a motor.

Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Thank you Mystic Tree. Your last two posts made me feel much better. :)

Living Food
03-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Living Food, Google lead me to Amazon with at least 10 different types of manual juicers. If my questions annoy you, feel free to ignore them. I am sure someone else will answer if they want to.

They didn't annoy me, I was just pressed for time at the moment. You must not have seen it, but right after saying "Google is your friend" I posted a link that explains what manual juicers are...the reason that I said "Google is your friend" is 'cause it took me about 10 seconds to find.

Daisyhead
03-19-2012, 03:49 PM
I am glad they didn't annoy you. I must have read your post wrong. I had already googled before I asked the question. I still had a question. Your link was very helpful. Thank you so much. :)

damaru
03-19-2012, 03:56 PM
If you loose nutrients through blending, make up for it on other days by drinking fresh veggie juices, made with a masticating juicer. Problem solved!

Living Food
03-19-2012, 04:00 PM
It's still better to get maximum nutrition all the time, but just do the best you can.

michigan roman
03-19-2012, 04:20 PM
to me as long as you drink it right away its the same as chewing it , only difference is the air whipped into it . if thats bad who knows

obviously we'd prefer to eat nothing but raw unproccessed plant foods . but vs the options with added conveiniance of blender smoothies
its a great move to me

as i get closer to mastering my type raw diet it'll get down to just raw individual plant foods and water , each bite having a specific purpose
to play its part in the condition of my body . but were a very long way away from mastering diet so for now the blenders a great option imo

SunshineMN
03-19-2012, 08:13 PM
The manual juicer we purchased is the Healthy Juicer (http://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Juicer-Manual-Powered-Wheatgrass/dp/B0002LY8PA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332205667&sr=8-1) from Amazon.

We haven't actually tried wheatgrass with it yet, however it does lemons, limes, oranges, pineapple, apples and carrots good enough for us. Aleesha (one of the mods here) had a review on her website that I read before I purchased it and she used it for wheatgrass. We're planning on growing wheatgrass soon, I just need to buy the trays and growing medium.

We tried a green smoothie recently and I hated it. Probably because we used mostly our salad blend with only a small amount of fruit. I couldn't stand the taste of the blended lettuces, I'd much rather chew my way through them. LOL It was an experiment. We were low on cash and tired of lettuce at the moment. We won't make that mistake again!

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
07-26-2012, 10:44 AM
A nice short link l found where Dr Brian Clement talks about why juicing is so superior to blending (90 second video), and l agree entirely on this.
http://livingmaxwell.com/green-juice-or-green-smoothies-which-is-better-or-which-one-is-worse

The reason why it is unadvised to blend fruit and vegetables togeather is because the sugars and acids in fruits slow the digestion of the carbohydrates in vegetables which will cause fermentation and possibly bloating and gas. l found this to be true also. So yes...most of these raw food leaders are teaching us all bad habits, and to add to their bad teaching habits they also stand up and talk while drinking the smoothie. lt's like raw food is just one big party to them...they are all show and have very little substance to anything they have to say.

Try blending for one month and then try juicing and see what the differences are. Juicing is far superior if one drinks the juice within 15 minutes.

l will conduct the ultimate experiment which will prove that blending kills the potency and vibration of the food and will also prove why the high electrical frequency of food is so important. l keep on messing the experiment samples up, but l will do it properly and photograph the evidence.

MysticTree
07-27-2012, 07:14 AM
the sugars and acids in fruits slow the digestion of the carbohydrates in vegetablesI have no idea whether juicing is better than blending or vice versa or if it makes no odds but you don't make sense with your above statement. The sugars in fruits ARE carbohydrates.

luv2laugh
07-27-2012, 08:49 AM
I have never had gas or bloating from a green smoothie. In fact, I feel a lot better after drinking them. I haven't tried juicing, however.

I appreciate this post and will do a bit more of my own research. I would think that eating raw over the SAD is so much better anyways. It hurts to think that all that nutrients is lost, though. 90% ?, So we should still be taking vitamins if we are eating fruits and vegetables all day long, just a big part in smoothie form?

Also he said most people he knows who preach green smoothies are heavy set. That is not my experience in any way or form.

MysticTree
07-27-2012, 09:28 AM
I think it's nonsense to say 90% is lost so just carry on blending - especially if you feel good and like the taste.