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Alissa
11-19-2004, 08:39 PM
Ok touchy subject i know, but what the hell! There is a thread on Christianity and a bunch of other stuff here so i thought id ask? Anyone here not into organized religion but into metaphysics? If so what or who is it that you are into?
Rawkinlocs
11-19-2004, 08:49 PM
Alissa,
I'm not into metaphysics, but I just wanted to say that this shoudn't be a "touchy subject". I'm sure that we're all adults here and we all realize that not everyone here subscribes to the same religious or spiritual beliefs...we're all on different paths.
I am a member of a board where their spiritual section has everything from Christianity to Paganism to Wicca to Traditional Afrikan religions and even Atheism. Anyone should feel free to discuss their beliefs in a thread dedicated to their belief system without anyone getting offended. I can see if this were openly a christian-based forum, but it's not from what I can see.
So, don't feel on edge about starting this topic. I've learned quite a lot from that other forum reading about all the different religions and one thing I've gotten if nothing else is a sense of more respect for other religions of the world.
Just wanted to say that...sorry.
CherimoyaMel
11-19-2004, 08:59 PM
I'm open to learning from the wisdom of any religion. I'm sort of ecclectic that way. I'm all for religious tolerance and respecting one another's beliefs. I've recently been studying metaphysics, particularly Science of Mind, but I wouldn't say it's my only spiritual interest.
Did anyone see "What the Bleep?" I saw it twice, and I loved it.
Alissa
11-19-2004, 09:24 PM
Rawkinlocs, yes i know your right, i guess its just that i never talk about my beliefs anymore unless i know people are open to it. Im glad everyone here is so open to each others thoughts and belief!
CherimoyaMel, we just saw what the bleep. I was blown away, not by what they were saying but because what they were saying is the way i live my life and have been for the past 15 years and now here is this movie talking about reality creation, that all lifetimes are happening simultaneously, that this is the dream and the reality is what you do while your in meditation and while your creating your reality with your beliefs not while your in the so called 'real' word. Anyway, it was so amazing that this is out there and that people are opening their minds to it! Whooo imagine if and when everyone gets that they create their own reality what a powerful word it will be!
Ive worked with the Lazaris material for many many years and that whole movie is what he has talked about and taught for years.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys!
glad_2beme
11-19-2004, 11:25 PM
I am interested in metaphysics and am somewhat gifted I guess you could say...I believe what you ask for and believe in the universe sends your way. I am a Christian and I believe in God but God gave us a mind to use and we are no where near using it!!!
Rawmommie
11-20-2004, 06:11 AM
I don't know much about metaphysics Allisa, but it sounds interesting. I don't subscribe to any organized religion, but I consider myself a spiritual person. I'm very nature led. I feel a real connection to the earth but also the human spirit. I think we all have so much strength, power, and love in us that we never even allow ourselves to experience.
Karen
qetta
11-20-2004, 08:12 AM
Wow, Karen! I could have just written your post word for word regarding myself.
Alissa - Will you explain a little more about metaphysics for those of us who aren't really versed in it? Thanks!
-Lisa
flutterfly
11-20-2004, 10:07 AM
Alissa, I have just read a little about metaphysics and it is very interesting. I have been burned by organized religion many time and this sounds more like what I have in mind. Thank you so much for opening this up ;)
SwishTN
11-20-2004, 05:29 PM
Could someone give a bit of a clearer picture in regard to what metaphysics is???
thanks!
Lauri
CherimoyaMel
11-21-2004, 12:12 AM
Metaphysics is hard to define. The premise is that there are invisible realities and spiritual laws in the universe which most people only recognize on a subconscious level unless we study metaphysics or have some sort of intuitive epiphany.
I think that's the best I can do for a definition. I hope it helped.
Wrecked Spark
11-22-2004, 11:14 AM
If you're looking for an interesting website to get a feel for some interesting material worth thinking about along these very lines, check out www.reconnections.net
You could potentially spend days in there!
Interesting channels, etc. Speaks also about Kundalini awakening and much more.
What the Bleep Do We Know was also recommended by those who follow the teachings of Ramtha www.ramtha.com
I haven't spent a lot of time with those teachings, although I know several people who live their life by them.
I'm all for throwing information out there ~ I think it's a great thing to spend time acquainting yourself with information that is currently foreign. The worst that could happen is that you'll disagree. The best? A potenial epiphany.
I'm a bit shy sharing myself, but I think that comes from a lifetime of being judged.
Cheers,
Wrecked Spark
glad_2beme
11-22-2004, 11:20 AM
I agree wrecked spark, those of us who may have different beliefs than the majority are judged way too often, I knew (but yet didnt) at a very young age, there was more to this world than what appeared....anyone that I tried to explain it to, thought I was nuts (maybe or maybe not)
rawjojo
11-22-2004, 12:13 PM
Alissa ~
I only have a second to write as I am already (always) late BUT I am really really into metaphysics. I have been studing the subject at hand for the past years. It is such a spiritually amazing world that we live in!! I will write more as soon as I get back home. So glad that you started this thread! Good idea! I can't wait to see "What the bleep".......hopefully it will be around our theather soon!
rawjojo
qetta
11-22-2004, 01:52 PM
Wrecked Spark - Thanks for all the links!
Wrecked Spark
11-23-2004, 09:40 AM
Welcome! There are tons more... but that'll keep ya going for awhile. :)
Happy reading!
Alissa
11-28-2004, 08:11 PM
Rawjojo, yes, go see it, youll love it!
I think others have begun to explain this but for those of you who asked, ive been wanting to respond and write some stuff that i believe gives some description but ive been too busy and its hard for me to sum it up. i guess my pat answer is that, to me, metaphysics is believing that you create your reality 100 percent. ill write more soon!
elaina
12-02-2004, 09:59 AM
I totally believe in metaphysics, spirituality,etc, and consider myself very much on the fringe....I saw what the bleep with my husband, and we both loved it!!!! ;) A really good book to read is:Messages from water by Masuru Emoto...his concepts/scientific studies about water was in the movie....I felt a very strong kinship with the concepts of this book and think other people that find the new frontiers in physics/spirituality would love this book because really it fits right in with rawfood, because it has to do with water!!! I personally believe that water is emotion, and a mirror...that it reflects our thoughts, emotions, etc. back to us...whatever we project it becomes!!! Interested..? Read the book and see the movie...COOL!!! Thanks Alissa for opening up the channel!!! You go girl!!! Elaina
chrysalis
12-05-2004, 12:24 AM
Mmmm .. think I can relate to all of this! Aswell as being judged .. hence the reason I unplugged by running off to live in a foreign country for a while and figure it all out for myself in my own time! Not that being the only Western face in a sea of intrigued/staring Koreans seems to have helped that entirely where I am now. :p
I have a couple more links to throw into the mix ..
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Evolution-Nature-One-Gaia-Cosmos.htm
http://reluctant-messenger.com/main.htm
Some great quotes and interesting links that seem to go on forever. I literally do lose myself in sites like this for days/nights at a time! The more blown away I am by ideas/stuff that I think a lot of people intuitively already know/relate to ... the less sleep I seem to get! (easy when youre stuck in a foreign country on your own!). I've also recently started a pretty intense Raja yoga/philosophy course. Amazing how energy works and everything connects. I definitely believe that energy follows thought. All of this is what has lead me back to RAW! Haven't seen What the Bleep though .. was it released recently? Hopefully I'll get to see it when I'm back in SA for a holiday and some sunshine in February ...
corky
12-08-2004, 07:24 PM
"you create your reality 100%"--I never really heard of metaphysics b4, buy i definitely believe in the 'whatever you believe you will achieve" thinking. I do believe in a God--do people who believe in metaphysics believe in a God? I just don't know.. i will have to look at that link. Can't wait till you post more!
glad_2beme
12-08-2004, 07:39 PM
absolutely you can believe in God. Some may refer to as a higher being. I believe in God, I believe in meditation, channeling, asking from the universe, Angels as guides. So many things are truly possible. We don't use anywhere near the brain power that we have. If we could all slow down a bit and tune into what information we have available it would be absolutely amazing
glad_2beme
12-09-2004, 07:53 AM
After my post last night I thought about sharing how I discovered Raw & Living Foods. To me it relates to this thread. I have hurt so bad for a year now. Just last summer ( a year ago) I was very active, hiking, mountain climbing (beginner level) etc...Now, almost crippled I have been praying and meditating on my health. One evening after meditating, in my dream state, I drempt that I was in the medical field but it was weird (at least during my dream). My best friend has cancer and I had her on a medical table, and beside her I had a huge assortment of fresh fruits and vegetables. I kept telling her she had to take this in or she would cross over. She could not do it and said to me I thought you were in a wheel chair, and I told her that it was because of these items that I am not. I saved myself and her during this dream. The next day I started researching the internet and found Alissa and so many others!!!
I would have died if someone told me about living food, before this I would have thought like worms or something (gross, but true, like fear factor). It was this message sent during my dream that lead me to raw. I know to some it may sound far fetched or something but this is the truth. I asked for an answer and it was given to me.
Alissa
12-12-2004, 02:38 PM
I forget where I got this, it sounds like the Seth stuff but ive had this written down for a long time. This is only one example of metaphysics:
Your experience in the world of physical matter flows outward from the center of your inner psyche. Then you perceive this experience. Exterior events, circumstances and conditions are meant as a kind of living feedback. Altering the state of the psyche automatically alters the physical circumstances.
There is no other valid way of changing physical events. It might help if you imagine an inner living dimension within yourself in which you create, in miniature psychic form, all the exterior conditions that you know. Simply put, you do exactly this. Your thoughts, feelings an mental pictures can be called incipient exterior events, for in one way or another each of these is materialized into physical reality.
You change even the most permanent-seeming conditions of your life constantly through the varying attitudes you have toward them. There is nothing in your exterior experience that did not originate within you.
Interactions with others do occur, of course, yet there are none that you do not accept or draw to you by your thoughts, attitudes, or emotions. This applies I each area of life. In your terms, it applies both before life and after it. In the most miraculous fashion are you given the gift of creating your experience.
MaxMarie
01-13-2005, 11:49 AM
It's so fabulous that you listened!! To the message of your dream that is. So many people ignore those messages. I get quite a few of them myself.
Keep up those prayers! A friend of mine walked into a prayer group having suffered from the effects of polio most of his life. Leg braces and crutches. He walked out without them!!
sweetgoddess
01-13-2005, 12:39 PM
Great Topic Alissa. I suppose the spiritual path I study would be considered metaphysical ...but I prefer not to label it. It's called Eckankar- The Light and Sound of God. I have been studying it for 3 years and it has changed my awareness and so also my life~ dramatically. My husband has studied/practiced it since childhood and all his friends have been studying it for 20-30 years. They are the most amazing people! We have unbelievable experiences together-
Definitely believe that we create our experiences, that we, Soul, come here to learn and grow spiritually.
Baraka Bashad~
alibobraw
01-16-2005, 04:32 PM
Hi Alissa , I believe that I am responsible for my life and experiences and that whatever I think , say or do in my life creates my future experience and affects the universe . I love to use affirmations and creative visualisations ,I send out my love and peace to all and do my best to speak in the positive . I read "You can heal your life" by Louise Hay and it made complete sense to me , it's really logical to me ,for example ,on a simple level , if you are nice to someone they are likely to be nice back to you , if you feed your body nourishing foods it will be healthy . Love and peace , Alison
krysnted
01-22-2005, 07:10 PM
The metaphysical is so interesting. I do not know much about it, but I sure did start believing in it when my husband and I have had nothing but trouble this whole month! I had read this thread a while ago, and when I was lying in bed because I was so stressed out, I remembered the quote from Alissa
"Exterior events, circumstances and conditions are meant as a kind of living feedback. Altering the state of the psyche automatically alters the physical circumstances."
So I decided to alter my thinking. I have a friend who knows a lot about the metaphysical, so I have started taking classes. I am so glad this thread was started, for when I read this I thought I was one of the few people (certianly here in San Antonio!) who thought differently. I am glad that people are willing to talk about these things. Thanks!
Krystal
Froggy
01-23-2005, 11:06 AM
Hardly a touchy subject, metaphysics is essential to my spiritual growth. I'm not much into conventional Christianity, The Urantia Book is a much better Bible. That's a channeled work I like. I also read A Course in Miracles, another channeled work. I started out with Jane Robert's "Seth" books back in the early 80's. I've traveled around to a lot of New Age (Metaphysical) groups, programs, teachers, etc. I used to do it as quite the hobby, like I remember the Aquarian Center of Light, they had a channeling founder/teacher. I remember an ascended masters group for book reading and discussion or a New Age practitioner/channeler who used to hold gatherings on different subjects. There's a New Age bookstore near me that holds an inexpensive talks on various subjects on Friday nights. I'm not driving right now so I haven't been there in a while. I don't go to many New Agey things these days, maybe I'll get back into it at some point. It's the only religion I'll really have anything in common with for the rest of my life. I remember going to Science of Mind churches and Churches of Religious Science too.
Here's something from the UB on eating:
P.834 - §6 While cooking was universally employed outside of the immediate Adamic sector of Eden, there was no cooking in Adam's household. They found their foods--fruits, nuts, and cereals--ready prepared as they ripened. They ate once a day, shortly after noontime.
P.834 - §5 The Adamic children did not take milk from animals when they ceased to nurse the mother's breast at one year of age. Eve had access to the milk of a great variety of nuts and to the juices of many fruits, and knowing full well the chemistry and energy of these foods, she suitably combined them for the nourishment of her children until the appearance of teeth.
P.851 - §2 Adam and Eve and their first generation of children did not use the flesh of animals for food. They subsisted wholly upon "the fruits of the trees." After the first generation all of the descendants of Adam began to partake of dairy products, but many of them continued to follow a nonflesh diet. Many of the southern tribes with whom they later united were also nonflesh eaters. Later on, most of these vegetarian tribes migrated to the east and survived as now admixed in the peoples of India. :D :o :rolleyes:
Ok touchy subject i know, but what the hell! There is a thread on Christianity and a bunch of other stuff here so i thought id ask? Anyone here not into organized religion but into metaphysics? If so what or who is it that you are into?
MaxMarie
01-25-2005, 06:10 PM
Course in Miracles is a Christian book. It's not channeled.
When a Christian writes under the direction of the Holy Spirit, as was done with Course, it's not channeling. It's a WHOLE other ball game.
Channeling is when a person opens up to allow another consciousness in. Dangerous indeed since we never know who or what is behind that door. (says the woman of discernment who's seen some very strange things...)
It's sad that we make divisions, really. Everything is the same. Terminology is the only thing that's different. When one talks about how one's thoughts effect one's "world" the average joe thinks metaphysics. But all faiths have this teaching. Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims. Norman Vincent Peale is a Christian who's written TONS on the power of positive thinking. He's generally thought of as some kind of New Age guru. I very much enjoyed his little pocket magazine called Guide Posts. It's just a bunch of happy stories. True stories from real people. VERY uplifting. Subscribed for years!
After the Tsunami, a friend forwarded a post from a friend heavily into metaphysics. It was a beautiful post. While the words and actions were different from my own it was a lovely call to prayer for souls lost by their sudden death.
If Thomas Merton and Thich Nhat Hahn can spend time in discussion and find similarities in their faith, then so should the rest of us. Yeah, we're all a little quirky and a little different. Let's forget about that part. It's an amazing thing, the tall Cisternian monk in his black and white robes, next to the dinky guy in his saffron ones. Two different faiths. Many similarities. Anyone read "Benedict's Dharma?"
MsFiction1
01-28-2005, 10:04 PM
Hello All!
Am new here and appreciate the forum. I have posted here and got great input!
Would like to jump in and recommend my favorite book about metaphysics.
Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav.
Has anybody here read it? The way I understand it he studied physics and then one day wrote the book. It came to him as he wrote it . He explains the laws of physics in a spiritual, metaphysical way.
I LOVE the part about 5 sensory and multisensory beingness.
Oprah had him on several times. I think the use of the word soul was not totally accepted by the majority of listeners as "unreligious" and invoked resistance to the word. I mean most folks are uncomfortable with the word if used outside of a church context and think it an invasion of their private beliefs to talk about their soul, rather than a word that describes the part of us that is not our mind or body and exists as the "driver of the car" so to speak. As in I have a body and a mind. What part of me has those parts? My soul. Oprah commented on this noticable resistance from her audience.
Any thoughts on the above or his book?
Just chit chattin, :p
Karen
Originally Posted by Alissa
Ok touchy subject i know, but what the hell! There is a thread on Christianity and a bunch of other stuff here so i thought id ask? Anyone here not into organized religion but into metaphysics? If so what or who is it that you are into?
GorgeousforGod
02-14-2005, 03:09 PM
This is a great topic! Metaphysics is an attempt to explain the unexplainable. Literally it means beyond the physical. To me, it leads to the idea of quantum - where it is possible to go from one location to another, literally changing, transforming, in the twinkling of an eye. Which obviously is what is happening here in the vegan community, evident by all the before and after photos. The body is changing all the time. It is now common knowledge that the body you have today is completely 100% different than it was just a year ago. You have a completely different skeleton, liver, every cell has been replaced, so all sickness is actually only a holding on of an idea in the mind. If you let the mind be new every moment, the body rejuvenates itself.
So for me, my mind began to change and it started to instruct me to be vegetarian. Then it went to vegan, now I'm striving for raw. I used to be over 200 pounds. Today, I am 161. I look 10 years younger than when I was eating meat and drinking alcohol. I am excited to see what I look like on a raw diet!
Metaphysics means beyond the physical. It goes into the realm of the invisible, although we cannot see this other world with our eyes, it is there. GOD IS. It has nothing to do with religion.
Before electricity and the lightbulb, the principles guiding those things existed. It took an individual through trial and error to bring the invisible into the visible. Obviously you do not have to understand or even accept the laws of electricity to turn on a lightswitch.
And so it is with God. You don't have to believe in Him, or even understand this force of energy. He heals all things. There is going to come a time when there is no sickness. The body is constantly changing and rejuvenating itself.
I was legally deaf until last year. I had hearing aids in both ears, and I turned my attention to God and His healing power. I was specifically instructed to change my diet. I am certain we are needed in the healing process. It is possible total healing could spontanously occur, but I think more often than not, we are needed in the process - changing our diets, practicing forgiveness, being full of joy and love increases the healing frequency.
I don't wear hearing aids anymore. My left ear is perfect. My right ear still needs some work. It very exciting. It's an adventure into the unknown.
In gratitude,
Lisa
GorgeousforGod
Wendy
02-14-2005, 05:10 PM
My husband I do not practice any religion, but are both spiritual, he more than I. He was initiated by a seik from the spiritual practice called Science of Sprituality (www.sos.org). They believe in vegetarianism and reincarnation, among other things. I do not believe in hell, and believe in a God, but not as much like the christian God that is so judgmental. I believe we have many lives until we have perfected our soul as much as possible and then we return to heaven. God cannot experience life like humans do, so he learns from human experiences.
Mieke Benton
02-14-2005, 05:41 PM
I am.
You can look at my website to see exactly what my interest is.
I do meditate every day (twice if possible), I do Reiki, with a group of people we have some channeling going, I work on getting my being as clear as possible on all levels.
The Raw is the Key and the next logical step.
I have lots of support and insight from the Abraham materials.
So, lots of interesting things to explore.
caramba
02-14-2005, 09:26 PM
Finally chiming in on this one...I'm just about finished reading Wayne Dyer's "You'll See It When You Believe It". Anyone else read this one? What an eye opener...makes so much sense to me. His seperation of "form" (the physical) from thought. It explains so many "co-incidences". I have a feeling that our thoughts are like radio waves, and if you relax & go with the flow of the universe you'll actually pick up other peoples thoughts or the thoughts (and therefore experiences) that were meant to come your way....Far too complex a topic to discuss whilst I've got one ear open to hear if the kids wake up any minute!
DotfromOz
03-11-2005, 07:03 PM
Wow! Seth, Lazaris, Ramtha? Haven't read anything of those dudes for years, but at one point in my life they all helped in some way to point me in the direction that led to where I am now.
Have you read Jane Roberts's Oversoul 7 trilogy, Alissa? For anyone who isn't familiar with it, Roberts took what she had gotten from Seth's teachings and fictionalized it in an attempt to make Seth's concept of the nature of reality more easily grasped. Her portrayal of the reasons why some people become senile was just so mind-blowing for me, as I'd had several relatives in that state and found myself angry and resentful that anyone I loved had to "lose hir mind" like that. Roberts's depiction brought me more understanding and peace than any pat philosophy such as "It's God's will" ever had.
I'm a student of Aleister Crowley's Thelema, a very complex philosophy and occult practice that reminds me of babushka box sets. Just when I think I've "opened" a ritual or text and finally understand it, something else unfolds to show me that there's more to learn.
Crowley himself was an arrogant, sexist, thoroughly obnoxious < expletive deleted > who delighted in tweaking society by claiming to be The Beast 666, but he was an absolutely brilliant ceremonial magickian, IMO. His system could keep me studying and working for several more lifetimes, I'm sure.
I love the whole arena of metaphysics. I am a christian and God gave me an awesome brain which I consider to be the final frontier of exploration. I love incence, crystals, meditation and mind machines.
angelandarose
03-24-2005, 04:52 PM
Ok touchy subject i know, but what the hell! There is a thread on Christianity and a bunch of other stuff here so i thought id ask? Anyone here not into organized religion but into metaphysics? If so what or who is it that you are into?
I was raised a christian. My dad was a COC preacher. 3 years ago I deconverted. I detest organized religion now. I now consider myself a spiritualist/deliberate creator. I study under the metaphysical teacher Abraham of http://www.abraham-hicks.com, they are my main teacher but I do read and study others of similar offerings.
Love,
Angie
Mieke Benton
03-24-2005, 04:55 PM
Abraham is one of my wondeful teachers also.a
Have you experienced being with Ester and Abraham. Quit an amazing experience!
Mieke
angelandarose
03-24-2005, 04:59 PM
Not yet, but Evie(a dear friend of mine) and I plan to go to the KC workshop in September. ;) We can't wait! I am on the weekly tape subscription and totally addicted! :D
Mieke Benton
03-24-2005, 05:02 PM
We are on the monthly one. Yes, it is so powerful and supportive.
I would love to hear about your experience when you go!
Hi everyone:
My first post here, playing with raw recently and liking it by the way. My younger sister recommended this forum and I decided to join a few days ago. I had to laugh when I saw this thread because some of the post I have seen in other threads made me think these guys are "getting it" meaning there is more to who we are than what may have been revealed to us as youngsters.
I have been on a metaphysical/ spiritual path for many years, had many experiences as a child and even watched TV shows and read about telepathy when I was young. The real beginings of my journey started off by reading a book called "The Psychic Pathway" and meditating. I kept a psychic events journal for a year which helped me be aware of my connection and have been involved in a psychic reading class for a long time now.
My personal beliefs are most mirrored by a group called the Crimson Circle, (crimsoncircle.com) in which we know that we are God also or to say we are creators also and yes, I loved "What the Bleep". The movie did a wonderful job in revealing who we really are....divine beings having a human experience. The lesson from the film that I still have to remind myself of is that our perception of ourselves, the world, others, etc. has the greatest impact on the life we live. If we change our perception, we change our experience. As I have body image issues too just like the main character does in the film I loved it when she was looking in the mirror, saw her self as a bloated ugly person and was engaging in self talk like "I hate you, you are so fat" but then she remembered the exhibit she saw regarding water and decided to see herself in a different light.....I loved her drawing on her body, little hearts and flowers, etc. letting her body know she loved it for all it has been and done for her in this life time. Yes, I did go out and buy some colored eye pencils and started drawing on my lovely knees which hold arthitis in them right now.
I'm glad to see this thread here and I hope that we can all continue to be open with each other!
Love to all,
Paula
Revvell
03-31-2005, 02:43 PM
I don't "believe" in anything. For me, if it's true and it proves true for me, then, what's to believe? It is! So, having said that, I took sannyas with Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (currently called Osho) many years ago, there for the name Ma Prabodh Revati was given to me. I kept my own first name and it seems to fit perfectly ~ Revvell P. Revati.
Osho's understanding was to live life fully in the now. It's not something easy to do. One of his sayings (probably paraphrased) is ~ There is only one disease ~ unconsciousness... and only one medicine ~ awareness. He also would say use meditation as your medicine. (Notice they come from the same root?).
I understand what Osho said from a gut level just as I understand how raw food works. For me, it all ties in together ~ about life and living.
Enough for now ~
Revvell
nobletroll
04-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Alissa
Have you ever read the book The Field by Lynne McTaggart. It is not a metaphysics book per say. It is a series of stories of scientists that follow experimental results that lead them to an experimentally proven energy field--the Zero Point Field-- that seams to connect everything. One of my favorite chapters is -Resonating With the World- its hard to condense but it is about a neuroscientists that comes to the conclusion that the brain dose not so much store information but acts like a radio transmitter and receiver, on a quantum level, for information stored as wave-interference patterns on this zero point field. With experimental evidence of this storage process.
Earlier in the book it explains that in the quantum level things pop into and out of existence and to make this work this zero point field is used to explain where things go and come from. So if mater is created from this field and our self's are jest wave patterns in this field than creating anything out of thought is a perfectly reasonable thing to happen. They didn't go that far but seams a reasonable conclusion.
rawpriestess
04-01-2005, 04:57 PM
That's pretty much what I believe.
That we create everything in our lives, for a learning purpose.
I simply can't believe that we are here on this planet, and that we are finite beings, with no further potential past a short life span of say 70 years.
It just doesn't make any sense.
To believe that there is a horned being in the center of the Earth that will reak havoc with me while I am living this minor exsistance doesn't ring true.
To believe that there is a God living on a cloud with a long white beard and he is REALLY obsessed with weather my genetals are being touched by myself or anyone else, seems obsurd.
To believe that I am a totally spiritual being that has Chosen to experience all the pleasures and challenges of BEING simply for the experience of it, and that I have chosen to be incarnate for a period of time, for that specific expression, and that there are millions of us that have chosen this seems perfect right to me.
I have had too many spirits talk to me, too many dead relatives show their faces, too many people I never met, MEAN something to me instantly upon meeting them, too many coincidences to believe that we aren't isn't connected.
I KNOW in my heart that we are all connected and that what happens to you, also affects me, and what I think and believe affects you, so I do my best to think loving thoughts and to do loving acts to all beings.
Although I am NOT perfect by any means, and I do have faults. I strive to live each day with Passion, and to be kind always, and to live harmlessly, and to give back trust, love and joy whenever possible to all the beings on this planet, as they have given to me.
There is no way that I could ever give back as much love as I have received while living on this Earth.
I live a blessed life and I am thankful every day for every other being on this planet that chooses to continue living this exsistance with me.
Blessings, to us all,
Rawpriestess
VeganVixen
04-01-2005, 10:53 PM
this is a great thread ...
I worked in a metaphysical/health/art store ,The owner became like a mother to me -I lived with her for 6 months and will go live with her soon to transfer to college where she lives-
her store was in a very tiny strict-baptist-y closeminded town-it was the only place that I felt ok in,in the area
-she unfortunatley had to close it when she moved -we got good buisness from tourist and houstonian vacationers...it was a GREAT store
have any of you read the celestine prophecy?-great book I recomend it!
DotfromOz
04-02-2005, 12:26 AM
Sorry to have to disagree on The Celestine Prophecy, VeganV, but I thought it was unbelievably elementary and badly written besides. It'd be a fairly decent starter work for someone with little experience in occult studies, IMO, but I was waaaaay beyond it when I read it when it first came out. There are whole lots better books out there, I think. The Emmanuel books, anything by Sanaya Roman or Jane Roberts's Seth series would be what I'd recommend before CP any day.
At least, no one here has raved about either Sylvia Browne or John Edward, so I can leave my soapbox devoted to those two stashed in the occult closet for the moment. :p
VeganVixen
04-02-2005, 01:32 AM
Sorry to have to disagree on The Celestine Prophecy, VeganV, but I thought it was unbelievably elementary and badly written besides. It'd be a fairly decent starter work for someone with little experience in occult studies, IMO, but I was waaaaay beyond it when I read it when it first came out. There are whole lots better books out there, I think. The Emmanuel books, anything by Sanaya Roman or Jane Roberts's Seth series would be what I'd recommend before CP any day.
At least, no one here has raved about either Sylvia Browne or John Edward, so I can leave my soapbox devoted to those two stashed in the occult closet for the moment. :p
REALLY? I basically skimmed through the book while working at the store so Im basing it on the parts that I havre read and It seemed realy good-true it wasnt a big occult book-however I liked it more for the relationship and dealing with different personalities-the small bit I read has actually helped me deal with freinds and "get through"-I also LOVED indigo children ,have you read that? It is great for people that have or are on a different "mind plane" like have add adhd or bi polar-its amaising how many kids are these days,Its disapointing to hear that you dont like it ,people have come in and RAVED about it at the store -of course it was a VERY small town so who knows!!!
Elizabeth,
that question I have grappled with and still do struggle with it. I do believe we create our own reality, the field of quantum physics has proven that everything is energy, even our thoughts, which magnetize events and circumstances into our lives. HOWEVER, what about innocent children who are suffering?!? I certainly do not have the answer here.
I read a great book, Conversations with God a few years ago, which gave me more peace of mind about this question and others that I had about metaphysics and the New Thought movement. I cannot recommend this book highly enough. At first, when I heard about this book, the "Supreme Cynic" in me said give me a break, who can claim that they've talked to God and that He/She has actually talked back? But over the years, I have learned to quiet that voice and just open to others opinions, thoughts, and I have grown a great deal, I hope anyway.
I DO think that in our humanness, there are things that occur that "passeth all human understanding" -that there's more to this life than we can fully grasp at this point in our spiritual evolution. I'm working on just trusting and surrendering and NOT having to figure this all out.
Peace and Many Blessings,
Lara
DotfromOz
04-02-2005, 08:04 AM
REALLY? I basically skimmed through the book while working at the store so Im basing it on the parts that I havre read and It seemed realy good-true it wasnt a big occult book-however I liked it more for the relationship and dealing with different personalities-the small bit I read has actually helped me deal with freinds and "get through"
That's what counts, IMO, that it be a help for you and whoever else loves it. At the point at which I read CP, I'd been working in occult studies for about 20 years, so it would be fair to say that I was a bit jaded. ;) That I think there are far better entry-level books to New Age pursuits probably reflects where I was in same at the time I read it more than anything else. Not to mention that what *I* think would be a great entry-level/motivational book might be waaaaaaayyyy beyond you or others as yet. Case of YMMV [your mileage may vary].
-I also LOVED indigo children ,have you read that?
Yep. It was okay. I had some problems with the author's gushy language about how glorious and marvelous these kids are, probably in part due to my never wanting to have kids.
Its disapointing to hear that you dont like it ,people have come in and RAVED about it at the store -of course it was a VERY small town so who knows!!!
Yeah, I can believe that CP would appeal to people in a tiny town--used to live in a few of those myself--who haven't had experience with anything much beyond Leno's and Letterman's jokes about Shirley MacLaine. Not putting the book down for those to whom it speaks, please understand that. I'm just saying that I was way past it at the time I read it and still think there are far better books out there for someone just getting into this sort of thing.
For what my opinion's worth...as we all find our own way.
DotfromOz
04-02-2005, 11:55 AM
Course in Miracles is a Christian book. It's not channeled.
When a Christian writes under the direction of the Holy Spirit, as was done with Course, it's not channeling. It's a WHOLE other ball game.
Channeling is when a person opens up to allow another consciousness in. Dangerous indeed since we never know who or what is behind that door. (says the woman of discernment who's seen some very strange things...)
It's sad that we make divisions, really. Everything is the same. Terminology is the only thing that's different.
With all respect, MaxMarie, I would say that we're talking about precisely the same thing here. I'm familiar with the Christian belief that writing resulting from what is perceived to be the influence of the Holy Spirit is different from channeling an entity. I do not happen to believe that it is at all different myself, so you and I will likely have to "agree to disagree" on that.
It really doesn't make any difference to me what a person's perception of the origin of any piece of writing may be. We've all seen instances of the most sacred writings being used to justify actions considered horrendous.
But, the flower must die to produce the fruit, so who are we with our limited perceptions and perspectives to say where or how such actions may fit within what's sometimes referred to as the "cosmic scheme of things"?
I sure dunno.
If I did, y'all would be instructed forthwith just how I want you to go about worshipping me. :p
DotfromOz
04-02-2005, 01:04 PM
So, how do those of you into metaphysical beliefs and practices believe that raw eating fits into your way of life and/or enhances it? Please say more as you wish about the differences you've noticed in your spiritual life and work since going entirely raw or mostly so.
(And now, I really WILL shut up...for a while, anyway. < heh heh >)
angelandarose
04-02-2005, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=DotfromOz]So, how do those of you into metaphysical beliefs and practices believe that raw eating fits into your way of life and/or enhances it? Please say more as you wish about the differences you've noticed in your spiritual life and work since going entirely raw or mostly so.[QUOTE]
Ok, let me start from the beginning of my journey and tell you my story of growth and how it has led me to eating raw. This might be long
I was born and raised a Christian, my father was a Church of Christ Preacher. I always knew Christianity had flaws but was never able to expand my learning while living under his roof. When I first got an idea that Christianity was flawed when I was 11 and my father sexually abused me. He continued the abuse till I left home. I carried that secret for 22 more years till I finally had a melt down. That melt down helped me to break free from my dad, and all the beliefs that I held that no longer severed me. I had been living in a 'default' world not understanding that I create my own reality. For the last four years I have been reclaiming who I really am with the help of a metaphysical teacher (www.abraham-hicks.com). Mean while Im married to a very earthly man who hunts, traps and is a meat and potatos kind of guy, I was a meat and potato's kind of gal. ;) I got into hunting big time, to the point I was running a women hunters website and writing outdoors articles, getting hunting equipment from big name companies in exchange for product reviews Id write and all that goes along with that. I bow hunted for about 7-8 years now, with no successful deer kill. I had someone tease me one time that I just didnt have it in me to kill something. I was so angry then but the more I think about it the more I think he is right.
Studying metaphysics and studying about how everything has life force energy had made me think about all kinds of things and critters in a new way. I dont see the world the same way I did through Christian eyes, I see the world in a much broader perspective, Christianity is merely a speck in the broader perspective. I started studying Reiki(I am a ReikiII) and Prismology (I am a Prismology master) and then Quantum Touch (http://www.quantumtouch.com) which led me to the book, Eating for Beauty. That book that talked about the life force energy of food, Raw foods vs. cooked foods and it was like an light went on and I said DUH! I get the next step in my evolution, in my journey, in who I really am, in who I want to be. My growth has been a whirlwind these last 4 years, I have learned a LOT and cant wait for the next chapter to unfold.
Yesterday I started day 1 of my 30 day Raw Challenge, we shall see where this will take me. I know it can only bring me good manifestations eating this way and loving myself this way.
Love to you,
Angie
P.S. this is no way meant to slam christians or hunters or anyone who I might have offended. Love to all!
VeganVixen
04-02-2005, 04:47 PM
hey dot .... yes its hard to get into the metophysics while living with my parents who are pretty "socially strict" conservative christians-my mom is a bit better -but only when Im the ONLY ONE THERE.My dads family is from this small town and he has deep routes here although he grew up in houston,and we lived there until I turned 14 then we moved here to the farm he inhereted......HE THEN made matters MUCH WORSE by running for DA here -small town politics is NASTY and to my parents appearance is EVERYTHING!!!!!
ROSE,VERY INCREDIBLE JOURNEY!!!!!
I am from a somewhat hypocritical christian family-forced to go to church until I refused around 10 and I have always disliked church-not for the "its boring" reasons ,but because I thought it wasnt for me and these people were taking ONLY ONE man out of all the incredible leaders ,profits and philosiphers out there and I dont like it when people "claim" a god .
I believe in a spiritual being ,however whos to say this being isnt in a multi - deity form?or whos to say that it isnt the sun? or the moon? or a female? or doesnt have a gender at all? Whos to say that all the gods and goddesses and nymphs ect arent parts of one being ?Who says our god isnt nature itself?-I CANT YET ,BUT I CAN KEEP MY MIND OPEN TO ALLTHESE POSSIBILITIESAND RECOGNIZE THE DIVINE WORK THAT THIS PRESENCE HAS SHOWN ITSELF AS.........and I also have begun to believe in "young souls" and old souls -like a "young soul" has more basic emotions-cant feel and can become sociopaths or criminals or rapist like the thought " my woman-I take" ...... or are just very closed minded and ignorant just a theory ??? anybody want to chime in.......
also to you phycics out there ....have you noticed the amount of angry young souls out there that are just hard to work with ?I AM SCARES ABOUT CLONING AND THESE SOULS LEECHING ON -ITS a relitive possibility!
also if have you will know what this means -has anyone here heard the growl????
DotfromOz
04-02-2005, 05:35 PM
Hokay, VeganV, that pretty much explains your background and philosophy, I'd say. Now, add something if you would about how raw eating fits into your belief system.
In my case, it's energizing me physically and spiritually to the point that I'll be sending Roman candle-type flares above the house when I do rituals. < heh heh >
Seriously, I recognized a major change in myself as I came bounding into the house from a shopping expedition today. While still on SAD chow, I often left non-perishables sitting in their bags on the kitchen floor and just picked things I needed out of them because I would simply be exhausted from hauling everything into the house. And by "everything" we're talking maybe 6-8 Wally World (that's Wal-Mart for the unintiated) bags of stuff. Now, I'm gonna finish this posting, scan for new ones and go put that stuff away entirely. Energy out the wazoo!
And I picked up a size 6 pair of jeans. The 8's I got a couple of days ago are starting to feel baggy already! I LOVE THIS RAW CHOW!
VeganVixen
04-03-2005, 03:19 AM
To me being raw has is more of a health change-and of course since having all of the health problems and gall bladder removal I have had a big problem controlling my weight -It LITERALLY jumped from 123 to 145 in a week after surgery -I was a dancer and was and still am into comptative riding (eventing -dressage,jumping and cross country rolled into a "horse trial" ,its an old military art of preparing horses for battle-now its used for sport) and was very athletic and thin -only on raw have I been able to maintain my weight at 131-134 ,which is nice and I can now fit comfortably in my old jeans pre-op from ninth grade ,yay -of course THEY ARE PLAID!!!! HE HE I wore the GOOFIEST PANTS!!!!!!
BEING VEG IS OF MORE "SPIRITUAL" REVELANCE TO ME ......RAW IS JUST A BETTER WAY OF DOING IT!!!!!!
theresaann
05-30-2005, 09:48 PM
Wow! So glad you guys are talking about this. My darlings, there is nothing BUT metaphysics! we dont' exist save for our perceptions and agreements! I am a medical intuitive, and I can tell you, every single health problem has a thought pattern that created it-BEFORE diet, nutrition, injuries, etc. What the bleep is so great AND just scratching the surface. The biggest reason I think being raw is so powerful is that it helps us to raise our vibration and be able to be consciously in touch with our higher selves. So cool....
theresaann
06-04-2005, 08:50 PM
Yahoo!! thanks Alissa for starting this topic! This is all there is, yes? studying metaphysics, or just BEING who we really are, as one woman said, "do you have something better to do?!" ya, right!
check out www.kryon.com
very high, awesome, integrity filled channeled material. I am going to see Lee Carroll live tomorrow in Grand Rapids. Lee channels Kryon. Wow, I am so psyched. I also am a channel, I use it in conjunction with bodywork. Channel people's higher selves and loved ones who have crossed over. But really, it's all me! (and you and me and you and.......) yehaw! I could go on and on about this topic. Yeah and far out!!! whoo hoo! (can you tell I'm excited about this topic? ;-) blessings, blessings, blessings!
theresaann
06-04-2005, 08:52 PM
In fact, I love this topic so much I posted three times in a row! yeehaw!
hey, another cool thread. well this is my first visit, 3rd post. i very much like this thread as i'd enjoy meeting others of like mind. metaphysics to me is concerned with concepts of "being and knowing" and is related to the process of "metamorphisis" or transformation. a mystic, or seeker, is essentially someone who "seeks spiritual knowledge". personally, i dont have a single practice... and i believe in following my own path. i decided to call myself a mystic because i felt it was better than saying "i'm a spritual person" :laughs:, or "student of whatever" (i.e. western and asian psychology, psychic self-defence, warrier mysticism, asian martial arts, buddhism, blahblahblah), or labelling myself as a christian/buddhist/jew or something like that. when exploring any teaching all i want to determine is if the ideas seem sincere? or, as is often the case: are they confusing (and possibly created to "control" people)? i've had several people come forward and invite me to be their "student", for what reason i do not know, but i was always more interested in what their qualifications were and i never felt sufficiently impressed with their abilities to study under someone, and felt i could find what i needed on my own. my premis is that i have the power to think for myself, and since we're said to only use 10% of our brains anyway, if i think every day i can increase my capailities rapidly. i wish i could find a system out there that i respected enough to call myself an exclusive follower of it! maybe one day i will find a system that satisfies me enough to do that, but so far, not. 2 decades ago when i was 19, i went to an ashram in pennsylvania... but i quickly figured it out (who was doing the "work", who was running "the show", who was making the money, who was a con, who was ripping off their peers (stealing other people's food from the fridge), who was looking for a free lunch, who had serious emotional problems but had no where else to go, who was naive and spending too much money to be there, who was sincere)... it was understood that there were certain expectations and that was ok in itself but i was uncomfortable with the hierarchy of roles-- i mean gurudev wasn't cleaning tiolets, b/c he was supposed to represent love and be amazing. the truth is i just didn't feel that the benefits were so great that i would want to exchange my work to hang out with them. the tradeoff was i could han out with enlightened people if iwanted to clean tiolets. but i had no proof/sense that anyone there was any more enlightened than i was. anyway, that's how i felt at the time. i could go home and clean my own tiolet and not have to put up with people talking about fabulous gurudev and knowing the gurudev didn't have to sleep in these awful barracks with people stealing his food from the fridge. the gal i knew there said, "but wait, you've only just arrived what happened? you're not leaving?" i said, "well i can't buy into this place, i'll study the ideas on my own." *chuckle* anyway, god bless us all in our paths, and my thanks to the author of this thread and everyone for their contributions, i've enjoyed this thread a lot.
Desdamona3
08-19-2005, 10:44 AM
I've been browsing the metaphysics section of the library since I was a wee little girl. Because of this, I am drawn to everything from shamanism and mystic christianity, to wicca. I have a degree in psychology, but I focus on healing the balance of mind/body/spirit. And I have to say, the raw or living foods movement is the only nutritional foundation that "gets" the spiritual connecttion. Not only that, but using food to deepen our connection to spirit! All very exciting for me!!
Leiloshka
04-16-2006, 11:55 PM
This is an old thread but since I was just listening to an interview with a Christian who used to assist a psychic healer, I decided to search "occult" on this board and saw this thread. I read through it and just wanted to post this info., especially for Christians who are involved in any of the "metaphysical" world.
click on http://www.thewordfm.com/ministries/understanding_the_times/archives.asp
and listen to the clips entitled "The Beautiful Side of Evil" part 1 and 2. Hmmmm.
SparklePlenty
04-17-2006, 07:15 AM
Yes, yes yes!!! My life and my beliefs and my knowing are metaphysically oriented and have been for many years. I have listened to and studied Abraham's teaching for several years, but many teachers have impacted me powerfully. I love reading The Group's messages. I know that I create my own reality and am loving becoming a more powerful manifester. And I am happier than I have ever been before---and it gets better every day.
My work--life coaching and writing--- is very metaphyically oriented. My clients tend to be those people who are looking for exactly what I have to teach, and are ready to take the next step so it's very joyful work! I call it work ,but it feels like play...that I get paid for! What could be better!
Right now I am in the process of creating some new products for my website that are inspired by Masaru Emoto's work. I'm very excited about this new project!
Love
Jan
Pansy
04-17-2006, 08:05 AM
We are! Have been since 95'. We are certified in so many area's and have dabbled into so many things and yes, we believe you create your own reality!
Blessings and Love,
Pansy ;) and Forever Young :cool:
Pansy
04-17-2006, 08:09 AM
BTW, there is going to be an "The Gift of Light" Expo this weekend (22 & 23) at the Veterans Memorial Hall in Columbus, Ohio.
It opens at 10:00 am each day!
You can go to the website for info. www.giftoflightexpo.com
We are going! Maybe we will see you there!
Love and Light,
Pansy ;) and Forever Young :cool:
Amberly
04-17-2006, 08:43 AM
I'm not religious at all. I am into metaphysics.
This is a great thread. when i joined a raw food forum little did I know how much I'd feel at home! I've been into metaphysics for years, like many others who have replied. I love Louise Hay's books and the way she relates what's going on in the body to patterns of thought etc -- in fact I've cured myself of many aches and pains with her affirmations. I've got the Emanuel books but at the moment my favourite guru is Wayne Dyer, I especially love listening to his CDs, and I do his type of meditation (japa), most days.
lily
Amberly
04-25-2006, 01:01 PM
I'm not religious, but I am into astral projection, lucid dreaming, meditation, mental projection, etc. Haven't had alot of time for it lately though. It just spontaneously happens, used to ALOT. I am hoping raw will make it happen easier.
I am studying for a Metaphysics final now (the philosophical kind, though, not the practical :) )
I'm into both aspects.
jennifuh
06-07-2006, 07:27 PM
A good friend is really into it. She is so intuitive also. We are planning on taking a trip to Casadega, Fl. later this summer. I was told the vibrations are amazing. Can't wait!
jennifuh
06-08-2006, 12:12 PM
Could you email me privately regarding causing health related issues? I am having an onslaught of mental/physical ailments and need help to counteract myself! Revvell already suggested some wonderful things, which are helping tremendously so thank you to that wonderful woman! I tried to send you a private message, but not allowed...soooo...here is my email
jen_tompkins@yahoo.com
thank you! Any thoughts are appreciated..or suggested reading material as well. Thanks again!
akh78749
06-08-2006, 12:45 PM
Okay, I am really excited about this. I am not familiar with metaphysics, but it sounds exactly like what I need to be studying. I did see What The Bleep Do We Know and thought it was great, but think this video is even more powerful.
(I posted a link to this amazing video on another thread.) Here it is again:
http://tinyurl.com/nk2lk
Everyone loves this that sees it. It's 90 minutes, but so worth your time. You have to watch it, if you haven't seen it already. It sounds like what you guys are talking about. I have already noticed a change in myself since I have been putting this into practice.
If you have trouble getting it to load, copy and paste the link into your browser. Sometimes that helps.
I would love to know what the experts in metaphysics here think about The Secret. Maybe they have already seen it.
I have an eerie feeling. Like there is going to be a huge shift in human consciousness soon. Cool.
I LOVE this stuff!
akh78749
06-08-2006, 12:52 PM
The biggest reason I think being raw is so powerful is that it helps us to raise our vibration and be able to be consciously in touch with our higher selves. So cool....[/QUOTE]
This is the main reason why I am raw. I really want to be in that higher place.
Thanks for reminding me!!!
This is such an awesome thread. Now I am dying to read about Metaphysics. What are the best books out there? Anyone?
akh78749
06-08-2006, 12:57 PM
By the way, the same Quantum Physicist, Dr. Wolfe, that is in What The Bleep, is also in The Secret (the video I sent a couple of posts earlier).
Conscious Midwife
06-08-2006, 09:02 PM
I'm into the metaphysics bit and have always been very open minded.
Big on thought proceeding substance, aura, creating safe space, vibrational energy. Currently rereading The LITTLE MONEY Bible... The Ten Laws of Abundance by Stuart Wilde.
Also find that the OT Bible and components of the Koran are very metaphysically oriented.
Manifested my husband through prayers and a dream.
Visualized various accomplishments for my children before they happened.
Mapped out a organizational chart of my companies staff and made notations about needed changes, nonproductive and troublesome folks are literally terminating themselves and getting out of the way of the successful we are trying to manifest.
Improved health issues through healing thoughts and visualization.
Always picking up vibrational energy of pregnant women who aren't even showing yet, have been succesful at telling 4 coleagues/ friends they were pregnant before they new they were.
Very empathic when my own mind is quiet and still.
Love some of the writing of the Religious Science folks.
Light and Love
Conscious Midwife
06-18-2006, 05:36 AM
;) bump :D
DoinItRaw
06-18-2006, 09:18 AM
Ok touchy subject i know, but what the hell! There is a thread on Christianity and a bunch of other stuff here so i thought id ask? Anyone here not into organized religion but into metaphysics? If so what or who is it that you are into?
Buddhism and Zen...mindfullness.
I'm so encouraged to read this thread! Thank you Alissa for starting it. I hope that you may indulge me for a moment or two (or perhaps longer). I have been doing some amazing reading lately and it would greatly help me if I could take the time to articulate what I've been reading and processing. I hope maybe it might help someone else as well.
I, too, saw What the Bleep (many times) and I was particularly fascinated by the section where they talked of matter existing as both wave and particle. I think one of the narrators said that it was as if everything existed as a wave of potentiality until you focus your attention on it and then it became a particle. I recently was also reading about holograms and how they are made when a stable laser light is used on a wave form photograph. (Ok, for all the scientists out there, that may not be exact terminology, but close enough for the purposes of this discussion). So there again was the idea of a wave (the photographic plate)then forming into a particle (the hologram) when attention was focused (light).
OK...here's where it got a little wild for me and I'm so busy trying to absorb and process this next piece. Conventional science states that we use only about 5% of our DNA...the rest of it is commonly referred to as "junk" DNA. Conventional science also says that through our five senses we can only see something like .5% of the matter that is actually "out there". Interesting ratios, I think. Some scientists became interested in that "junk" DNA and started studying it to find out what that might be about, since they didn't believe that nature makes junk. What they found (in a very, very brief nutshell) is that the DNA is crystalline and that, along with its shape (the double helix) makes it comparable to a transmitter/receiver! Not only that but the DNA emits a low level, stable light comparable to a laser light. When I read that, my whole world kind of shifted. We may very well be having more of a holographic experience than we realize. And since the DNA transmits as well as receives information, it would explain perhaps how our beliefs really do affect our reality.
It also would explain (perhaps in a tangible way) how we're all "connected" via this web of consciousness that is spoken about in so many metaphysical studies. I, too, think that humanity is getting ready for a great shift in consciousness.
I also know from much of my other reading in alternative health areas that many of the additives to food, pollutants, drugs, etc. directly affect our DNA. I now wonder what kind of effects raw foods will have on the awakening of this "junk" DNA when we're not hitting our bodies with these other harmful chemicals.
Thank you for indulging me. It helps me tremendously to put this all into (hopefully) coherent words. Great chatting with all of you!
Conscious Midwife
06-22-2006, 09:24 PM
THANKS CJB
I'm resonating well with your thought process!
Conscious Midwife
07-01-2006, 06:10 PM
Bump bump bump
Finding Me
07-10-2006, 05:50 AM
When I did a search on Metaphysics, The Kabbalah.com site came up. Would this be a good site to learn about Metaphysics?
gothgrrl
07-10-2006, 09:46 AM
Hi FM,
There is a University dedicated to Metaphysics, www.umsonline.org
I have been thinking about taking their courses, I'm still looking into it though.
But if you look at their course descriptions it may give you some ideas, and ways to tighten your searches.
Also I've been looking into the Reiki Blessings Academy www.reikiblessings.com
they have a large link section.
Hope that helps :)
hugs
gothgrrl
Dragggon
07-10-2006, 11:25 AM
There are thousands of booksand places to look and find info on the subject take yer time read a book or two on the subject as a whole if any area sparks an intrest focous thaat way for a while so you can learn and actualy take in the lessons as you learn them dont rush yer self dont over whelm yer self at first there is lots to learn...
I have been studying it and doing it all my life and have traveled the world enriching my knowladges of forgin ways and thoughts and trying to mix them all ( well the parts i feel work ) in my daily walk of life
Enjoy yer journey and belive what yer heart tells you.
Blessed Be
Dragggon
Mosaicsbymichelle
07-10-2006, 11:47 AM
This is fairly new topic to me but one that I have always been attracted to since I was a young girl even though I pushed it away. Something that was absolutely life changing for me was The Journey by Brandon Bays.
http://www.thejourneyusa.com
It is a procedure for cellular healing on the emotional and physical level and goes along with the work of Deepak Chopra and Candace Pert. I highly recommend it to everyone.
I attended a meditation class at the Science of Spirituality and one of the things said there that made an impact was, "praying is talking to God and meditating is listening to God."
I saw a quote that resonates with me, "God is too big for just one religion"
Stephen
07-10-2006, 12:19 PM
Hi Alissa
I am a philosophy graduate and studied a bit of metaphysics in my time. Not that its my 'branch' of philosophy or anything: I tend towards Ethics and Political Philosophy. Saying that like mathematical branches of algebra, calculus, statistics etc: philosophical branches overlap as well, so the area has interest to me.
A good definition of metaphysics might be read here
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Introduction_to_Philosophy:What_is_Metaphysics
I was for a while interested in Sartre's, 'Being and Nothingness' and still am so to speak; however phiosophical texts are heavy work and I havent given it but a brief glance. Metaphysics is certainly cutting edge stuff as is all philosophy. Things like determination and free will are popular areas of discussion in philosophy for the past few thousand years!
Finding Me
07-10-2006, 08:41 PM
Thanks GothGrrrl, I'll check out those sites.
I just love everyones input on these subjects. It seems there is so much to learn. Thanks to everyone!!
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