The real truth about behind most nutritional supplements available in the marketplace

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

l'm not sure where to place this thread.

Last night l received a very important 3 hour video discussion from Hippocrates Health Institute that discusses the nasty truth behind 92% of supplements sold in health food shops today. In this video, Hippocrates director Dr Brian Clement discusses the reality of these poison supplements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GpJ3dKeUr5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2Yv9RIDgyPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QxAtxB8ZBlI

Brian has also written a brilliant book which talks about all of this.

[MysticTree]

There is either truth or untruth but not real truth.

Moving on - I have always considered health supplements to be over-priced and probably not efficacious. I haven't clicked the links; I don't like Clement much, he gives me the creeps.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I don't like Clement much, he gives me the creeps.

l have always suspected that you never liked that guy much. Ah well...at least he is doing good things for the raw food movement.

[MysticTree]

l have always suspected that you never liked that guy much. Ah well...at least he is doing good things for the raw food movement.

I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but I can't help my instinctive reaction to him. He doesn't help himself by not publishing all this data you claim he has though.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but I can't help my instinctive reaction to him. He doesn't help himself by not publishing all this data you claim he has though.

ls it his arrogant know-it-all attitude which bothers you?

[MysticTree]

ls it his arrogant know-it-all attitude which bothers you?

Not really.

[delmar]

There is either truth or untruth but not real truth.

Moving on - I have always considered health supplements to be over-priced and probably not efficacious. I haven't clicked the links; I don't like Clement much, he gives me the creeps.

I came home from work one day and my wife had been watching Dr Oz on TV. She wrote down a list of five food supplements that he said are important in fighting cancer. I don't remember all of them but I know that selenium and chromium were on the list. So I sat down at the computer, went down the list and googled "selenium in food" "chromium in food" etc.

It turned out that every supplement on the list is available in large doses in something I was already sprouting or juicing. It did make me feel really good about the approach I am taking to manage my cancer.

P. S. I told that story to an annoying lady that goes to our church and she told me about a miracle nutritional supplement that I "have to get on that will prevent my cancer from coming back" best of all it only costs $99/month.
I don't think I let her see me roll my eyes.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I came home from work one day and my wife had been watching Dr Oz on TV. She wrote down a list of five food supplements that he said are important in fighting cancer. I don't remember all of them but I know that selenium and chromium were on the list. So I sat down at the computer, went down the list and googled "selenium in food" "chromium in food" etc.

It turned out that every supplement on the list is available in large doses in something I was already sprouting or juicing. It did make me feel really good about the approach I am taking to manage my cancer.

P. S. I told that story to an annoying lady that goes to our church and she told me about a miracle nutritional supplement that I "have to get on that will prevent my cancer from coming back" best of all it only costs $99/month.
I don't think I let her see me roll my eyes.

Sure some chemical supplements might fight cancer and kill it off in the short term, but lets not forget that the body isn't designed to consume chemicals, so long term abuse of these so called cancer fighting supplements might well cause free radical damage which can lead to cancer in the long term anyway. Most supplements are chemical, and many of them have various types of nasty solvents that the companies don't want you to know about. Most anti-oxidants are supposed to slow down free radical damage, but in reality they cause more free radical damage than they fix. Even Chemotheraphy is supposed to cause cancer. You need to be careful of doctor's claims about helping cancer, especially with mainstream t.v and other doctors in the mainstream media or connected to celebrities (they are too connected to big business and the illuminati).

The best way is to change your lifestyle to a healthy sproutarian lifestyle because it is full of nutrients and anti cancer agents (much more than any other foods), especially PHYTONUTRIENTS!!!. But even more important is to have a positive attitude and be happy. Meditation is also great.

The `linus pauling institute' at the Uni of Oregon found that the phytonutrients in freshly squeezed wheatgrass kills every form of cancer known to man and every bad bacteria tested, and even the pro-medical/drug University `Hopkins University' found that Brocolli sprouts have the single most potent anti cancer phytonutrient ever discovered. Hopkins Uni even published the research instead of burning it, amazing!!!

Doctor advice on mainstream t.v, radio or in big newspapers = walk away from as quickly as possible, especially when celebrities are mentioned.

[delmar]

Doctor advice on mainstream t.v, radio or in big newspapers = walk away from as quickly as possible, especially when celebrities are mentioned.
You just have to be able to see through the crap. What I gleaned through that guy's advice was that I was on the right track with sprouting and juicing.

O by the way, I love the term you used "sproutarian lifestyle"

[delmar]

The `linus pauling institute' at the Uni of Oregon found that the phytonutrients in freshly squeezed wheatgrass kills every form of cancer known to man and every bad bacteria tested,I am a big fan of juiced grasses, but mostly I juice wild perinatal grasses. Seems to me they should contain the same kind of life force kind of stuff.

[michigan roman]

ever hear of the 5 herb mix called ESSIAC delmar , if not i think itll interest you as its said to be a cancer cure

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I am a big fan of juiced grasses, but mostly I juice wild perinatal grasses. Seems to me they should contain the same kind of life force kind of stuff.

lf the grasses are vibrant and not too fiberous, why not. Some grasses are great, some grasses are not so good. lf you get a really good grass, it will be the finest land food of them all. l'm not just a big fan of juiced grasses, i'm a HUGE fan of juiced grasses.

[MysticTree]

touching on another thread where there is mention of multiple universes it would seem likely that there is no "real truth" (how I dislike that phrase).

It seems likely that everything is both truth and untruth simultaneously.

[Living Food]

Even Chemotheraphy is supposed to cause cancer.

ALL drugs are poisons, but chemotherapy is the worst of the worst. Even if the pharmaceutical companies wanted to find a cure for cancer (and they most assuredly don't), they could never make a drug that cures cancer. All drugs are poisons, but chemotherapy is an intentional poison - doctors take some of the most lethal chemicals known to man and call it "chemotherapy", withthe hole idea being that the cancer cells will (if you're lucky) die off just before the rest of your cells becasue they are growing and multiplying faster, and thus taking in more substnaces (nutrients and poisons) from their environment. The whole thing is really absurd...there are dozens of cures for cancer and there always has been dozens of cures for cancer, although of course that informaiton can't go to the public...cancer alone is a multi-billion dollar industry.


Hopkins Uni even published the research instead of burning it, amazing!!!

Lol. Sad but true that it's suprising that they did that.

[Traceyraw]

living Foods. Yes Chemo can cause another type of cancer to develop than the one the patient is being treated for.


Mr. Raw
Thanks for the video links. I was always scepticle of so many supplements.

you got me at sprout. I ordered a manual juicer for wheatgrass and sprouts. I have a sprouter but just ordered the seeds. I will let you know how amazing I feel after consuming all of these phytonutrients. I have had mainly kale and spinach for my greens. i have been taking garden of Life Perfect raw green food when I can't juice. Any tips..

[Living Food]

You can grow many sprouts just in jars, no need to use fancy sprouters. Why don't you look at this thread (http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?64973-Sprouting!&highlight=sprouting%21) for sprouting tips and instructions. Good luck (you won't regret it)!

[delmar]

You can grow many sprouts just in jars, no need to use fancy sprouters. Why don't you look at this thread (http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?64973-Sprouting!&highlight=sprouting%21) for sprouting tips and instructions. Good luck (you won't regret it)!Indeed! I have between 5 and 8 jars going all the time!

[delmar]

ever hear of the 5 herb mix called ESSIAC delmar , if not i think itll interest you as its said to be a cancer cureI had a buddy send me a jar of it. It makes a nice tea. I would be interested in finding out what the 5 herbs are so I can grow them. I do enjoy herb teas.

[michigan roman]

its been a while since i was up on essiac and i guess i was mistaken as its only 4 herbs : http://essiacinfo.org/essiac.html

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Even if the pharmaceutical companies wanted to find a cure for cancer (and they most assuredly don't), .

They have come across things which they know stops cancer, but they have no interest in curing anything because there is no money in it. They prefer treatments, but even better than that, they prefer treatments that take a lifetime such as with diabeties patients and people with mental problems etc...that's where the money is...a constant income stream over a lifetime.

[delmar]

They have come across things which they know stops cancer, but they have no interest in curing anything because there is no money in it. They prefer treatments, but even better than that, they prefer treatments that take a lifetime such as with diabeties patients and people with mental problems etc...that's where the money is...a constant income stream over a lifetime.That seems to be true of the drug companies and the FDA which is funded by the drug companies. I certainly know doctors who are not on board with this but, unfortunately they are most trained by people who are.

[Raw Angel Mom]

I didn't watch the video, but i will look into it when i can spare time. I know that i don't supplement anymore. I keep a close eye on my B12 level and i have been perfectly fine. I might occasionally do e3live or spirulina are chlorella but i haven't for so long. I feel that once you get a good healthy GI track, allow your gland to rejuvenate, you lymph to unclog and kidney to rejuvenate, you are on the right path. With my three long water fast, i know my GI track is in good shape now. I wouldn't even take digestive enzyme anymore because of what i have learned recently. Nothing good cans come with if you isolate an ingredient. Nature created food in balance and we need to trust her. Love my sprout too, lol... Especially in our Winter since, you cannot find fresh produce here. I cannot do without fruits. Anyway my next goal is to work on my other system such glandular, lymphatic and nervous system (Eyes are connected to this system).

All is well

All the best!

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I didn't watch the video, but i will look into it when i can spare time. I know that i don't supplement anymore. I keep a close eye on my B12 level and i have been perfectly fine. I might occasionally do e3live or spirulina are chlorella but i haven't for so long. I feel that once you get a good healthy GI track, allow your gland to rejuvenate, you lymph to unclog and kidney to rejuvenate, you are on the right path. With my three long water fast, i know my GI track is in good shape now. I wouldn't even take digestive enzyme anymore because of what i have learned recently. Nothing good cans come with if you isolate an ingredient. Nature created food in balance and we need to trust her. Love my sprout too, lol... Especially in our Winter since, you cannot find fresh produce here. I cannot do without fruits. Anyway my next goal is to work on my other system such glandular, lymphatic and nervous system (Eyes are connected to this system).

All is well

All the best!

l look forward to talking about this post much more Raw Angel Mum. Many points to bring up.

[Traceyraw]

Thanks for all of the sprouting info and links. I picked up some glass jars today along with cheese cloth and rubber band. I have wheat berries, lentils, and sunflower seeds soaking. While we were at the market we saw fresh organic sunflower sprouts. My daughter ate the whole pack. I am glad we are growing our own they were $4.00 for a tiny package.

I was wondering if there is a sprout chart anywhere online??? I know there is one in Alissa's book but I loaned it to my new raw friend.

Thank you again.

[Living Food]

I was wondering if there is a sprout chart anywhere online???

In terms of what you can grow or in terms of nutritional value?

[Traceyraw]

More like instructions. Soaking time sprouting time, When is the best time to eat them. How long will they keep. Do they need to be in the dark, in a jar or on a tray?? I just want the best results for my endever. Thank s again.

[michigan roman]

www.sproutpeople.org , best sprout site on earth

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Thanks for all of the sprouting info and links. I picked up some glass jars today along with cheese cloth and rubber band. I have wheat berries, lentils, and sunflower seeds soaking. While we were at the market we saw fresh organic sunflower sprouts. My daughter ate the whole pack. I am glad we are growing our own they were $4.00 for a tiny package.

I was wondering if there is a sprout chart anywhere online??? I know there is one in Alissa's book but I loaned it to my new raw friend.

Thank you again.

Wheat berries = soak 12 hours, sprout in dark if eating them or sprout in light if growing grass. Eat after 2 days.

Lentils = soak for 8 - 12 hours, sprout for 4 - 5 days to get rid of uric acid, sprout in dark

Unhulled Sunflower = soak for 10 - 12 hours, sprout for 1 - 2 days in dark(depends on weather), and put on soil with a cover over it in the dark for another 3 or 4 days in the dark (put some heavy books on the covers so the seeds get anchored down into the soil), and then take cover off and leave in indirect light until they are greens.

[MysticTree]

MR is right. Check out the sprout people tutorials. They are very good

[Litty]

I agree with you Mr. Raw and I must say I like this posting :) Informative and positive

[Traceyraw]

Thanks again. I will be planting some sunflowers outside so I can get my own seeds. They are so pretty.

[Traceyraw]

I found The sproutmans sprout chart. I just ordered it.

[Raw Angel Mom]

I found The sproutmans sprout chart. I just ordered it.

Can you post a link. I wonder what that is and if this can be useful

Thank you!

[SunshineMN]

I'm pretty sure Alissa's books also have soak/sprouting charts. Though I can see why Sproutman's chart (http://www.amazon.com/Sproutmans-Turn-Dial-Sprout-Chart/dp/1878736159/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336412395&sr=8-1) might be nice to just shove in a kitchen drawer and have it for quick reference. Honestly once you start sprouting it comes very easy and it doesn't take long to learn how long to soak different seeds and how long to sprout them.

When we set up our seed jars I labeled them with the name on one label and on another label I put the soak times and how much to use for a quart jar. We sprout them until they look how we like them, usually when the jar is full.

[Traceyraw]

http://www.amazon.com/Sproutmans-Turn-Dial-Sprout-Chart/dp/1878736159

This is the first time I posted a link. I hope it works.

Sunshine, I loaned my book to my new Raw Foodie Friend that is why I am asking.

Thanks for the tips. I bought about 4 jars this weekend. I am soaking today. I ordered alfalfa and mung beans. I am so excited. My daughter is too. SHe love to help with this.

[SunshineMN]

Sorry Tracey, that was for Raw Angel Mom. I know she has the books. :)

Mung beans are something I haven't tried yet. I know they like to be grown under pressure so to speak and I haven't come up with a good way to do that yet. Trying different sprouts is fun! I love watching how fast they grow and fill the jar.

[MysticTree]

I do mung beans just in jars like other sprouts. I've heard about the pressure thing too but not tried applying any.

[Living Food]

I agree with Mystic Tree - the pressure isn't necessary. I'd know, I've sprouted lots of mung beans just using the jar method.

[Traceyraw]

I can't wait. Sprouting is fun. I ordered mung beans, alfalfa for sprouting, and wheat grass.

[delmar]

Thanks again. I will be planting some sunflowers outside so I can get my own seeds. They are so pretty.Great plan. I have been planning to do the same thing with clover, and amaranth.

[Living Food]

Great plan. I have been planning to do the same thing with clover, and amaranth.

My ultimate goal is to get all of my sprouting seeds from either plants that I grow myself, or gather the seeds from wild plants. I want to grow all of my cereal grass seeds myself, but don't have anywhere near enough space to do so what with all of the grass juice I drink. I'm thinking that a better plan might just be to use wild grass during the early spring, when it's rapidly growing and chock full of life force, then collect wild grass seeds to sprout throughout the year. Has anyone here tried to sprout wild grass?

[Raw Angel Mom]

Than you for the link. I didn't realize but my husband has that chart. I wasn't sure if we could trust it. I do have Alissa's book.

I would love also to be so good at sprouting or growing my own food that i would harvest the seed myself. That seem like a great goal Living Food.

All the best!

[delmar]

Has anyone here tried to sprout wild grass?Not yet, but I have been noticing field after field of grass that has gone to seed and wondering how long to wait before trying to collect it, and wondering if my little cordless contraption is powerful enough to suck up grass seed.