Fruit, not so healthy?

[mlightsonata]

Hi all, I am very confused and concerned about the amount of fructose I am consuming. I eat vegetables, fruit and almonds. This is my diet because I am going through a health problem. I eat many servings of fruit per day, more than the TWO recommended servings. I've read that if I continue to consume at my rate (for eg, 2 medium bananas, some grapes, 3 nectarines, 4-5 apricots and 2-3 peaches all in one day) that I will be in trouble, particularly issues with my liver, hypertension and diabetes/ pre diabetes. Those against fructose say that todays fruits are not like the fruits of the past, that we are always looking to produce the most sweetest varieties. On the other hand, people are saying not to worry, that eating fruit whole comes with fibre and that makes it safe when compared to juiced. Also, that fructose is somehow different to HFCS.
responses are appreciated.

[MysticTree]

stuff and nonsense! Eat your fruits and be happy.

[Mony]

I've wondered this too... Being someone that can't handle eating too much fruit, I crash from all the sugars.. Also it makes me super gassy and uncomfortable.. I've been 100% raw for 10 weeks and you'd think the gassy stage would be over, yet whenever I eat fruit I bloat..

My colonic therapist suggested I cut right now on fruit and only have 2 served per day because she puts down the pockets of air in my intestines as coming from the fruit...
I cut fruit out for 4 or so days and felt so much better! Interesting... I know many people do so well with high fruit intake but I'm just not one of them..

I put it down to years of digestive damage as a kid, being fed dairy whilst having an intolerance and then gaining a gluten intolerance - I'm just super sensitive to foods now...

If you're worried, maybe reduce your daily intake and see how you feel? I'm a believer of more greens and vegetables and some fats and in my case very small amounts of fruit - rather than high fruit ... But hey! We are all different and our bodies are all healing in different ways..

Not sure if my response is helpful but just wanted to share my issues with fruit!

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

stuff and nonsense! Eat your fruits and be happy.

Are you sure Ms Tree, are you sure? What about what the two brilliant science men (Dr David Jubb and Dr Brian Clement) are saying about sweet hybrid fruits and sugars?

Science research is now suggesting we shouldn't be eating sweet hybrid fruits.

[MysticTree]

Are you sure Ms Tree, are you sure? What about what the two brilliant science men (Dr David Jubb and Dr Brian Clement) are saying about sweet hybrid fruits and sugars?

Science research is now suggesting we shouldn't be eating sweet hybrid fruits.

Science will be hard pushed to find fruits that aren't hybrids. You eat them yourself; you posted pictures.

I say just enjoy the fruit and don't buy into the fear - a lot of which is being pushed by men and women who are not of science.

[Raw Angel Mom]

If you separate the fructose from the food and eat this as a separate ingredient, then you lose the balance of the food and yes, i would say stay away from this or eat in moderation. Raw agave is a fructose and i stay away from this or use in very low moderation.

BUT a fruit a lone, is complete and balance. Fruit has helped this woman that had M.S. to walk.
http://www.youtube.com/user/robertmorsend?ob=0#p/search/0/ti6s3nM8cbA
Semi-acid fruits can rejuvenate your entire nerve system. Fruits give you a beautiful young skin. Every single cell of your body needs sugar, if you don't eat your fruits, you will crave starch or anything so your body can convert that to sugar.

Engorge your fruits, they are so good for you (ripe fruits).


All is well

[Revvell]

Air pockets from eating fruit? Some people can come up with anything.

Stop the fear. Eat what makes you feel good! If eating fruit doesn't do this, don't eat it! If it does, eat on!

[MysticTree]

Are you sure Ms Tree, are you sure? What about what the two brilliant science men (Dr David Jubb and Dr Brian Clement) are saying about sweet hybrid fruits and sugars?

Science research is now suggesting we shouldn't be eating sweet hybrid fruits.

and please stop calling me Ms Tree. I dislike the title Ms intensely.

[RawHealthyBeauty]

I eat raw food 100% all the time and have been for the past four years. At this point in my life, I found that I had to make adjustments/changes to fruit and veggies intake as well as nuts and seeds too. My changes is that I'm starting to count my carbs and calories as to taking in about 40-75 carbs and no more that 650 calories per my raw food meal otherwise my blood sugar will get higher than normal. In the past, I have loathe the idea of counting carbs and calories, but now it's so worth it to me to count my carb and calories for my raw food meals.
I have gotten careless into grazing about just anything raw all day long paying no mind to how much I eat which is really off balance from my point of view. In my former SAD food lifestyle, I wouldn't have dared to graze all day long like that! I agree with the moderation part and keeping a balance in the 100% raw food lifestyle. I don't snack on raw food between my raw food meals anymore which gives my stomach a chance to digest everything for at least 3 to 4 hours. Now, I find I need to eat nuts and seeds in moderation. I'm starting to use raw honey sparingly which I believe has caused my blood sugar to go wacky in 2011, I didn't realized it was sooo high in carb (35-40 g.) just for a little tablespoon!
I didn't need to take any insulin for the past 3 or 4 years. I've been 100% raw since Spring 2008 and still am. For the past two months, I'm taking the smallest dosage of insulin right now until everything gets back on track like how it was before in the last past three/four years and also when I have really good control on not overeating fruits, veggies, nuts, and seeds for each meal.
So far this carb and calories counting for my 100% raw food lifestyle has been working out really good for my blood sugar level. Fruits are low in calories but high in carbs and nut/seed/oils are are low in carbs but really high in calories. Anyways, this works well for me. So if I eat too much raw food carbs or too much raw food calories per meal, it will make my blood sugar level get higher.

For me when it really comes down to it, overeating or eating too much in one sitting of anything no matter how healthy it might be really isn't a good thing coming from my experience. i seek to find the right balance for me the raw food way.

And what I'm trying to say is that whatever is your kind of balance is the KEY for you to maintain good health.




Update Edit: I made my post less confusing to read and more easier to understand.

[Traceyraw]

Look up Freelee. She is a fruit goddess.

[BlackKat]

Air pockets from eating fruit? Some people can come up with anything.

Stop the fear. Eat what makes you feel good! If eating fruit doesn't do this, don't eat it! If it does, eat on!

Yup. exactly. The only person that can know for sure,is you. Not scientists, not people you talk to off the street. Your body is the best judgement on what is best for you.

[blessteve]

Mother nature knows more then corporations.

Fruit does not cause spikes in your blood sugar levels and has been proven with blood tests.
A 30 day study was done with dates. 100 people stuffed their faces with dates for 30 days
and none of them had elevated blood sugar levels.

All the processed crap will raise your blood sugar level and give you type 2 diabetes not
fruit. That's the facts jack.

[blessteve]

Are you sure Ms Tree, are you sure? What about what the two brilliant science men (Dr David Jubb and Dr Brian Clement) are saying about sweet hybrid fruits and sugars?

Science research is now suggesting we shouldn't be eating sweet hybrid fruits.


Science like the food pyramid ????? hahahahha

[DebB]

Personally I'm not worried about it - I'm practically a fruitarian...

[Papa2X]

One person's science is another person's nonsense, doctors or not.

[EscapeArtist]

I agree with the dangerous of fructose... Especially after watching the lecture "Sugar: The bitter truth" on youtube, which shows exactly how fructose is metabolized by the body, it's here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Also I tried 80/10/10 (80% fruit) for around 3 months and I ended up getting symptoms of both diabetes and really extreme hypoglycemia (peeing every 30 minutes, almost fainting in between meals, increased depression and anxiety, crawling skin feeling) I even had to quit my job. Went away as soon as I stopped eating all the fruit. I personally believe that it's mainly fructose behind diabetes, heart disease, and a big contributer to cancer. Of course, because you are eating vitamin rich and unheated versions of the food, it won't be AS damaging as the enormous amounts of heated fructose that people are taking in, but it's still damaging in the LONG term. A lot of the people over at 30BAD have high triglycerides and low good cholesterol, which is one of the big risk factors for heart disease.

That being said, you gotta start somewhere! It's totally fine to eat even enormous amounts of fruit as long as you feel good doing it. What's important is that you understand what feeling good is and that when and if you start to get negative symptoms, you make a change. Lots of people feel wonderful eating lots of fruit for the first few days, months, or sometimes years. Your body will tell you when you need to make a change. Eating tons of fruit is better than eating tons of processed sugar. I've never read about anybody who ate high-fruit for a short-moderate length, months/1 year) and ended up getting some horrible life threatening disease they didn't have before, like cancer, strokes or heart attacks.

[MysticTree]

I personally believe that it's mainly fructose behind diabetes, heart disease, and a big contributer to cancer.

It can't be because most people who have these problems don't eat fruit and veg.

[mlightsonata]

thanks everyone.

[EscapeArtist]

It can't be because most people who have these problems don't eat fruit and veg.

The form that comes in high-fructose corn syrup I mean, and sugar (50% fructose)

[blessteve]

Me too DebB. It's natural!!


Personally I'm not worried about it - I'm practically a fruitarian...

[joyee]

Hmm thanks for sharing this wonderful post, I really like to your thread.It is quite helpful discussion according to me, thank you so much for the impressive post......

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

thanks everyone.

Please read my posts l have linked below. This explains the issues with fruit consumption that haven't been spoken about here.

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?66435-Frugivore-s-we-are-not&p=676041#post676041
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?66435-Frugivore-s-we-are-not&p=676042#post676042
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?66435-Frugivore-s-we-are-not&p=676044#post676044
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?66435-Frugivore-s-we-are-not&p=676048#post676048
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?66435-Frugivore-s-we-are-not&p=676093#post676093

Good to be aware of arguments for and against l think. The biggest issue l have with fruit is that it is not usually picked ripe, and that it is usually over two weeks old before we have a chance to eat it, so it no longer resembles a health food at all (except in appearance). There are also arguments about sugar problems caused by fruit, but that is a complex issue that l don't care to argue about.

[Revvell]

It can't be because most people who have these problems don't eat fruit and veg.

Noooo, of course not. Can't possibly be.

[rawconvenience]

moderation is the key and eating the right fruit from a trusted source

[MysticTree]

The form that comes in high-fructose corn syrup I mean, and sugar (50% fructose)
but this thread is about eating raw fruits not processed corn syrup.

[MysticTree]

moderation is the key and eating the right fruit from a trusted source

Yes but what is moderation? Do you mean to lump all fruits and veg together and resctrict that to a given amount or do you mean an almost exclusive diet of fruit and veg but not eating mono? Or do you mean something else?

[Traceyraw]

I agree with the dangerous of fructose... Especially after watching the lecture "Sugar: The bitter truth" on youtube, which shows exactly how fructose is metabolized by the body, it's here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Also I tried 80/10/10 (80% fruit) for around 3 months and I ended up getting symptoms of both diabetes and really extreme hypoglycemia (peeing every 30 minutes, almost fainting in between meals, increased depression and anxiety, crawling skin feeling) I even had to quit my job. Went away as soon as I stopped eating all the fruit. I personally believe that it's mainly fructose behind diabetes, heart disease, and a big contributer to cancer. Of course, because you are eating vitamin rich and unheated versions of the food, it won't be AS damaging as the enormous amounts of heated fructose that people are taking in, but it's still damaging in the LONG term. A lot of the people over at 30BAD have high triglycerides and low good cholesterol, which is one of the big risk factors for heart disease.

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I have been trying the 80-10-10 I gained 12 lbs and feel terrible. Now I am going back to a more balanced raw. I tried really hard to make it work it was easy to eat fruits and dates all day. Its not for me.

[qwerty988]

I have been trying the 80-10-10 I gained 12 lbs and feel terrible. Now I am going back to a more balanced raw. I tried really hard to make it work it was easy to eat fruits and dates all day. Its not for me.

Tracey I'm so sorry to hear it didn't work out for you!!! I've never done 80-10-10 and always wondered about it..... honestly I think different people have different body chemistry -- it works for some people but not others.

You are brave to try it out -- and now you know it's not for you! :heart

[christine123]

great thread.. :)


http://www.greensmoothierecipesforweightloss.com/

[Raw Angel Mom]

Oh well, we can come with arguments of why eating fruits and why not eating fruits and both will have strong valid point. Sometime people don't do well with fruits only because they aren't ready for the powerful healing and detox effect they have on the body. Bottom line, you need to listen to your body. I used to of not being able to eat cantaloupe, it would give me nausea or make me sick. Now i can eat this fruit. Wheat grass juice, it took me two years to be able to finally drink this normally. My body wasn't ready for that and now i am. This is my personal opinion and i am not a doctor neither a scientific, but i know there is something magic with fruits and they have been very beneficial for me. I understand that not everyone can do fruits in large amount and they need a transition time but if you observe a child, which food they tend to eat without any problem and easily? "Fruit". Unless the child has been trained to eat food loaded with sodium and white sugar, they will aim naturally to fruit. Another observation is that, you will digest a fruit typically within half hour. They are pack with this life force and your body doesn't need so much energy to digest them. Your body doesn't even need to transform this food into an amino acid because it is already in this pure form. Now while that i believe in my heart that this is important to trust mother nature and eat the local food, i also know that if you bring an animal into a different country and this animal is used to a certain food, you will have to give that same food for optimum health. Bottom line, don't be afraid of fruits and tune in to your body. If you stay away from fruits, i can guaranty to you, that you will crave for sugar and you will go for food rich in sweetener. You might as well to eat a balance food instead such the fruits for this. It is time to heal this fear about being healthy because fruit lead to health (fresh,ripe, pesticide free and their purest form). Couple great healer didn't go with scientific but observing their own patient being able to heal regardless their chronic condition. They have seen it with their own eyes and they have used semi acid fruits and herbs. I am not a fruitarian but i love my fruits and i certainly eat a lot of them.

All the best

p.s Science can only be validate when you do a peer review. You compare your data with other researchers in different country. One person observation or someone writing a paper needs to be discern. You need to check the source for integrity. If you are given a great bonus, you may write your paper in favor of the donor. Meaning you take and leave. So my point, take what resonate with you and be your own science and observer. Doing a test with a group of people isn't enough, unless you have thousands or repeating results withing different condition and area. Not much research have been done with people doing raw food. Many factor could affect your result "Environment, DNA, actual health condition, food dietary, etc....). Anyway, eat your fruits and see for yourself.

[walnutty]

Fruits are cleansing to the body. (Greens are building). I refuse to give them up! I'm diabetic yet raw fruits do not raise my blood sugar at all! I could not live without bananas!

There is always someone who will bust you about something. Just eat raw and be happy!!!

[DebB]

I'm on day 3 of an all fruit fast right now and will go until I'm lead to stop. I'm feeling wonderful, so clear, clean and peace-filled.

[DebB]

Fruits are cleansing to the body. (Greens are building). I refuse to give them up! I'm diabetic yet raw fruits do not raise my blood sugar at all! I could not live without bananas!

There is always someone who will bust you about something. Just eat raw and be happy!!!

I agree 100% walnutty - fruits are the highest vibrational foods we can eat in my opinion. And therefor the most cleansing - much moreso than veggies. Just as you said - veggies will build and regenerate after the fruits cleanse and detox!

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Fresh fruit = cleansing
Fresh vegetables = cleansing, building, protectors
Algaes/sprouts/weeds and grasses = cleansing, building, protectors, life regenerators.

[delmar]

I eat an apple most days, cause I eat the seeds as a cancer remedy. Aside from that I just juice enough fruit to make the green stuff I juice a little more tasty. I would guess my juice is usually not more than 10% fruit.

[delmar]

I agree 100% walnutty - fruits are the highest vibrational foods we can eat in my opinion. And therefor the most cleansing - much moreso than veggies. Just as you said - veggies will build and regenerate after the fruits cleanse and detox!

I had to look up "vibrational foods" I'm still not sure I grasp the concept or how they know which foods have good vibrations.

[Traceyraw]

THat is good to know but high fruit is not working for me. Maybe I need to add them in slowly.

[Traceyraw]

Deb, What kinds of fruits do you use. Which are the most beneficial to cleanse? I need to loose the 12 lbs I gained. I was eating dates and plenty of bananas.

[James66]

I would have to agree with the majority of opinions expressed here. A fruit is a whole food that contains a bevy of nutrients. It is not an isolate. It is an amazing gift. Enjoy!

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I would have to agree with the majority of opinions expressed here. A fruit is a whole food that contains a bevy of nutrients.

but what about if it's not picked ripe, trucked across the state to the warehouse, and then eventually put into stores after 2 or 3 weeks. What about all the nutrient loses that quickly occur after fruit is picked, including vitamins, enzymes and phytonutrients? Testing has shown that fruit is pretty much dead after 3 weeks, even after two weeks from being picked it is close to dead.

Fruit straight off the tree might contain a bevy of nutrients, but l don't think that would apply to most fruit available in most shops today.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

fruits are the highest vibrational foods we can eat in my opinion.

Some of them are, especially the tropical jungle fruits. The problem is that if they aren't picked straight from the tree, the vibrational advantage is at least greatly diminished or even lost after a few weeks.

[DebB]

Deb, What kinds of fruits do you use. Which are the most beneficial to cleanse? I need to loose the 12 lbs I gained. I was eating dates and plenty of bananas.

What I'm learning is the 2 that are top of the mountain for cleansing and detoxifying are dark grapes (not green) and lemons. Berries are also great. From what I understand, while you can certainly eat bananas and dates on an all fruit detox, they're not detoxifying - they're "neutral" if you will.

I am not 'top of the mountain' on this detox. I have 1-2 quarts of apple juice, as many grapes as I can eat (even juice some in with the apples - I choose apples because here in WA state I get can me some cheap organic apples!! 40# box for $15). I bought a case of the big tangerines last week, they're awesome. I have 2 quarts of fruit smoothie too. I do have 1-2 bananas a day when I feel the need for something 'meatier'.

But - I'm getting tired of all fruits, don't know how much longer I can keep this up. But what I've been eating for the past 5 months is all fruit during the day w/ a raw vegan veggie dinner. Only fruits and veggies though, I've had to give up the nuts and seeds while detoxing.

[MysticTree]

Testing has shown that fruit is pretty much dead after 3 weeks, even after two weeks from being picked it is close to dead.


Which tests and where is the data?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Which tests and where is the data?

Write to Dr Valerie Hunt, she was the lady who performed all the tests and can give you all the fine details. She is considered the top bioenergetic researcher in the world and has worked with Dr Brian Clement at the world respected Hippocrates Health lnstitute since the early 80's. She has done tests on vegetables, fruit and sprouted foods.
http://valerievhunt.com/ValerieVHunt.com/Valerie_Hunt_EdD.html

[MysticTree]

Write to Dr Valerie Hunt, she was the lady who performed all the tests and can give you all the fine details. She is considered the top bioenergetic researcher in the world and has worked with Dr Brian Clement at the world respected Hippocrates Health lnstitute since the early 80's. She has done tests on vegetables, fruit and sprouted foods.
http://valerievhunt.com/ValerieVHunt.com/Valerie_Hunt_EdD.html

One piece of research then ... I'll look it up.

[MysticTree]

That link you gave doesn't lead to any published research on the negative aspects of commercially grown and sold fruits.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

One piece of research then ... I'll look it up.

Scientific testing that allowed for specific conclusions to be drawn. The enzymes were dead after three weeks. That's why l always go on and on about it, so we know fantasy from fact. lf the science has shown the enzymes are dead, what else can be said?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

That link you gave doesn't lead to any published research on the negative aspects of commercially grown and sold fruits.

l said to write to her. The email is in the link.

[MysticTree]

If it has. You telling me it has doesn't make it so.
Enzymes don't die by the way.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

If it has. You telling me it has doesn't make it so.
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l am reporting what the top experts have said. Can't do better than that. You either understand what i'm saying or you don't. l've spent enough time talking to you about this now, and l have given you the link to Dr Hunt, now the ball is in your court.


Enzymes don't die
They don't? Naturally l am talking about the exogenous food enyzmes. World authority Dr Edward Howell will confirm that they can be killed (page 16 of his book).

[MysticTree]

l am reporting what the top experts have said. Can't do better than that. You either understand what i'm saying or you don't. l've spent enough time talking to you about this now, and l have given you the link to Dr Hunt, now the ball is in your court.


They don't? Naturally l am talking about the exogenous food enyzmes. World authority Dr Edward Howell will confirm that they can be killed (page 16 of his book).

I have looked at the link you gave. It doesn't lead to the research you claim this person has done. I am not saying that the research hasn't been done but I need to see the research to be able to evaluate it for myself. You telling me that a particular person is a leading authority is fairly meaningless. I have no idea if you are right. I need to see the way the study was carried out and the data that was produced.

Enzymes are not living things. They cannot die. They can be destroyed but that is not the same as dying.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I have looked at the link you gave. It doesn't lead to the research you claim this person has done. I am not saying that the research hasn't been done but I need to see the research to be able to evaluate it for myself. You telling me that a particular person is a leading authority is fairly meaningless. I have no idea if you are right. I need to see the way the study was carried out and the data that was produced.
Email is your friend.

[MysticTree]

Email is your friend.

That it might be but if everyone emailed this woman she'd be inundated (and have less time for her work) so why can't the research be published and available? It really is very frustrating.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

That it might be but if everyone emailed this woman she'd be inundated (and have less time for her work) so why can't the research be published and available? It really is very frustrating.

l agree, it is frustrating. Why not give it a try. l think she has an assistant. She probably does have published studies, but it probably isn't available online. Lots of great health stuff isn't available online.



Enzymes are not living things. They cannot die. They can be destroyed but that is not the same as dying.
That's a fair point. l will chose my words more carefully in future. Thanks for pulling me up.

[snoops]

I thought that the reason we do not heat things over 118 degrees is because the enzymes die above that temperature. Alissa's book says "destroy". So what's up with that?

[MysticTree]

Enzymes are proteins. They don't die when we heat them they are "denatured" which is a bit like the difference between a whole egg and one that has been beaten up with a fork. Heating causes the protein (all proteins) to become very greatly less usable due to the "scrambling" that happens with heat.

Similarly vitamin C doesn't die but it does get damaged from exposure to heat and light.

Something can only die if it has first been alive.

[SunshineMN]

Just because one person thinks someone is an expert doesn't make them one. There are many "experts" that are proven wrong or found out to be falsifying information even 20 years later. This is becoming more and more of a problem recently, with some of this research affecting some 10-12 years of additional research done at the Mayo Clinic. So... yeah, just because you say someone is an expert doesn't mean we all have to consider them an expert.

[tolondontoparis]

How do I post my own thread? I don't really understand the site yet! Sorry for interrupting!

[SunshineMN]

At the top of the thread there's a blue rounded rectangle button with the title "+ Post New Thread". Just click on that button and you'll get a form for a new post. :)

[tolondontoparis]

I only see "Reply to thread" I feel so idiotic!(

[DebB]

I only see "Reply to thread" I feel so idiotic!(

No no! Don't feel idiotic! Go back to the main page - back out of this thread. You'll see it then. And if you don't? just let us know. We won't eat you for lunch - we're happy vegans!! ;)

Or use this link to the page:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?20-Raw-and-Living-Food-Discussion

[SunshineMN]

Hehe, ditto what Deb said. :) It's in the same spot, just on the page where all the forum thread topics are listed. Deb's link will get you there.

[James66]

I agree with that comment as well, Mr Raw. It's too bad that we get blackberries and blueberries and strawberries from Chile! How long ago were they picked? My comment was from a simple viewpoint that a whole food - fruit - is a healthy choice and not to be afraid of, such as a fruit roll up or some cereal with a fruit flavored additive. There are degrees to everything.

[James66]

but what about if it's not picked ripe, trucked across the state to the warehouse, and then eventually put into stores after 2 or 3 weeks. What about all the nutrient loses that quickly occur after fruit is picked, including vitamins, enzymes and phytonutrients? Testing has shown that fruit is pretty much dead after 3 weeks, even after two weeks from being picked it is close to dead.

Fruit straight off the tree might contain a bevy of nutrients, but l don't think that would apply to most fruit available in most shops today.

I agree with that comment as well, Mr Raw. It's too bad that we get blackberries and blueberries and strawberries from Chile! How long ago were they picked? My comment was from a simple viewpoint that a whole food - fruit - is a healthy choice and not to be afraid of, such as a fruit roll up or some cereal with a fruit flavored additive. There are degrees to everything.