getting depressed, but NOT giving up by any means.

[Papa2X]

OK, still eating lots of veggies and fruits... a lot raw, but not all... I'm enjoying the raw part of my diet...... but for some reason, I am putting weight ON! I had lost about 14 pounds in January, and have since put on 4 pounds. But I am NOT eating too many calories.... and I am not eating too much salt. I'm a 270 - 275 pound guy, and I am eating about 1700 calories a day most days. And I have been walking a lot... like today I took my dog for a 60 minute walk.

Not sure why my weight is rising, but SURELY my blood work MUST be getting better..... I have cut the amount of fat ( the unhealthy fat ) by 50% most days, and some days by 75%. Veggie and fruit consumption is like 10x what I used to eat. I'm drinking 75 - 100 ounces of water a day. And i shouldn't really be building muscle as I have not yet begun strength training yet, unless punching a boxing bag is considered strength training.... I think of it as more a cardio exercise.

I'm on the MyFitnessPal website if anybody here is, and wants to look at my food diary.

[Raw Angel Mom]

Stick with raw, perhaps look into doing more fresh fruits and leafy greens/fresh herbs.

Don't be afraid of fruits. Cut down, your amount of nuts, only to help your body to heal fully, Fat over charge the kidneys which are necessary to eliminate the toxin. Your endocrine system, most likely need a lot of repair and healing. Doing the raw food is the way to go. Some people lose the weight so fast, others it takes time. You need to be comfortable though on raw food, if you don't feel satisfy, you will get back to your old ways. You don't count calories with raw food, you go with the energy content. If calories would give you energy, then why after people stuffed up with a thanksgiving meal or went to a fast food, feel like sleeping???? Go with fruits and the greens. Microgreen sprout are great and you can sprout legume too to keep you satisfy.

You will be ok, remember that you are on the right path, if you go back to your old ways, it isn't going to work for you. Throw this scale now and focus on your health. I bet your skin look better, your pans are loser.

Go with 100% raw food. My first year of going raw food, i ate tone of fat, gourmet food and i went underweight, lol... so the good fat isn't necessary making you gain weight but it does over tax your kidney and slow down detoxification. Every cell of your body needs sugar, so eat as much ripe fruits you want. The rule of thumb for the water consumption is half of your body weight in Pound in ounce. So if you are 100 lb, it would be 50 ounce. If you aren't thirsty, you should listen to your body. If you drink too much water, you can ended up doing water retention. So follow your body. Maybe at first, you can drink more water. One big glass before a meal and a couple upon wakening.

[DebB]

I was also wondering about your fat intake. I do pretty well maintaining my weight unless I overdo on the nuts and/or oils.

I am able to eat 1 avocado per day - but for now I leave the nuts and seeds alone as I'm in a detox program. I also use very little (less than 1 teaspoon average daily) of oil. When I was eating nuts & seeds - I gained weight (sadly).

[Traceyraw]

When I increased my fruit intake early in the am followed by a liter of water. My craving subsided.

[Papa2X]

I don't eat that much fat.... at least not compared to the days gone by..... I guess most days I eat 60 grams of fat, maybe 70. This is the number that my doctor told me to shoot for. But remember, I am 270 pounds... I eat about 1700 - 1800 calories a day... and today I did 65 minutes of HARD cardio.... so, now I am off to make a green smoothie. :)

[tiggerbounce]

freelee had that happen, as have others. For whatever reason, some people actually gain before losing. freelee eats like 3000 calories a day though. now she looks like a model and eats like a whale, lol. Your body may just need a bit of time to adjust. And weight does fluctuate a lot from day to day. Give it a few days and try your hardest to stay away from the scale. The scale is the devil, I tell ya. haha.

Also, I find the more juicy fruits and veggies I have, the better I do with my weight. When I start adding any cooked at all or dehydrated or gourmet raw....not so great. Kick start yourself with one or two or three days of as much fresh juice as you can drink. Make sure to have green juices as well. Then see what happens. Your body might just need a whopping intake of nutrients to get up and running again.

Michigan Roman does a Mondays juice fasting thread. Maybe try doing that once a week to start the week off with a powerful punch of nutrients from juices. That might also help balance the cooked foods you do have. Remember that regular table salt, one teaspoon can make you retain 1 gallon of water. 1 gallon of water weighs like 8.2 pounds. Cooked foods often have lots of "hidden" sodium in them.

Combining cooked with raw is ok, but the results you get are certainly not as optimal. It will require patience, for sure. I have the patience of a gnat on a hot griddle and have to cut out all cooked when I am trying to meet a weight goal. And I finally removed the scale from the house. If the numbers don't move fast enough, I am off the program. I am terrible. But I know that about myself and try to manage myself, lol.

I bet by the end of the week you are down again. Just have patience and confidence in yourself.

[Juicing Juli]

I have to emphasize a few things!
#1- everyone is different! Your results following the same diet/exercise
plan as your neighbor will reap different results.
#2- you need good fat to lose fat, period!
#3- try to go 100% raw for 1 day and see what happens on the scale.
I eat 2 sometimes 3 avocados a day plus nuts and oil. I do eat a lot of
greens and some fruit. Again, I am different than you and my neighbor.
#4-water is important as stated above...but I think you're o.k. from what you've said!
#5-Celebrate your successes!!! January's loss was outstanding!!!
#6-Your gain may be water weight for some unknown reason.
#7 sleep is very important
#8 at 270 lbs, you may not be getting enough calories if only consuming
1700. Of course as others have stated, if you go 100% raw, there is no
counting calories....but if you are eating cooked and processed food,
1700 is too low even if you want to lose weight. Your body may be going into starvation mode.
Check out this site:
http://http://nutrition.about.com/library/bl_nutrition_guide_men.htm
If you can't get there, google about.com nutrition and go from there!
Hope this helps!
Peace

[Papa2X]

Thanks Juli.

My "goal" is 1780 calories a day, but I always fall a bit short. This comes from the website's calculations that I am attempting to lose 2 pounds a week. 100% raw is still way off in the future, but maybe a day or 2 a week I can do. :)

I will now click your link.

Chuck

The link seems to fail. :(

BTW, as an aside, yesterday I did 65 minutes of really heavy cardio. I'm exercising 3x - 4x a week now...

[Raw Angel Mom]

Cook starches and chocolate (even raw) are what made me gain weight. I agreed that you need the good fat in order to lose the bad one.

[BlackKat]

It seems like your calorie intake is pretty low for your size and with the work outs you are doing. That is the red flag i saw while reading all of this. Like everyone else is saying more fruits and veggies. And like Juli said a gain of 4 pounds could be water weight and slow digestion. are you eliminating properly?

[Papa2X]

[QUOTE=BlackKat;684406]It seems like your calorie intake is pretty low for your size and with the work outs you are doing. That is the red flag i saw while reading all of this. Like everyone else is saying more fruits and veggies. And like Juli said a gain of 4 pounds could be water weight and slow digestion. are you eliminating properly?[/QUOTE

Yeah, all is flowing well.... the weird part is I gained 4 pounds overnight, and that is didn't go away, like it would if it was water weight.... anyway, the scale has started to move lower again, so I feel good about that.

[Juicing Juli]

it was probably what I call a false read. it's where for whatever reason your body's weight doesn't show the true weight. It happens whenever we used to eat pasta. I know I didn't eat 7000 extra calories of pasta the night before and the scale would say up 2 lbs.
just stay focused on the big picture!