Detoxing after 3 weeks????

[Juicing Juli]

I knew I was detoxing during the first week but now I'm on day 22 of raw and I feel like crap. I'm getting a cold sore..which I also got during week 1...my sinuses kill me too!!!

could this just be a cold or am I still detoxing???

[tiggerbounce]

Depends on the school of thought you wanna go with. Some say detox. Some say any time you are sick it is detox because your body is getting stuff out of your system---the flu, colds, sinuses,...all of it are detox in that line of reasoning. Others say that the person is sick. I have seen some heated debate over this.

Seems like cold sores are typically caused by a lack of something though. Or stress. (Or kissing boys with cold sores....aka cooties. hee hee, quite the biological threat) For me, when I have sinus things it is either when I am detoxing or when I have an actual sinus infection. Have you tried a nasal rinse?

Hope you feel better soon. Sinus pain can be miserable. For me, I get some relief, and so does my youngest son, by lying face down on some pillows with my face not covered by the pillow, cuz that would just be no good. Must help them to drain or something. Or lessen the pressure somehow. If you can have someone rub the back of your neck just at the base near your ears, that also helps me both sitting or lying down. Again, no idea why.

[Juicing Juli]

thank you Tigerbounce!!! After juicing last night and doing some natural remedies I feel almost normal today despite three cold sores about ready to rupture. I think Alissa or maybe its Victoria Boutenko says that like 75% people just going raw get a cold sore. I'm one of the lucky ones!!!

:)


Depends on the school of thought you wanna go with. Some say detox. Some say any time you are sick it is detox because your body is getting stuff out of your system---the flu, colds, sinuses,...all of it are detox in that line of reasoning. Others say that the person is sick. I have seen some heated debate over this.

Seems like cold sores are typically caused by a lack of something though. Or stress. (Or kissing boys with cold sores....aka cooties. hee hee, quite the biological threat) For me, when I have sinus things it is either when I am detoxing or when I have an actual sinus infection. Have you tried a nasal rinse?

Hope you feel better soon. Sinus pain can be miserable. For me, I get some relief, and so does my youngest son, by lying face down on some pillows with my face not covered by the pillow, cuz that would just be no good. Must help them to drain or something. Or lessen the pressure somehow. If you can have someone rub the back of your neck just at the base near your ears, that also helps me both sitting or lying down. Again, no idea why.

[MysticTree]

If you have ever had coldsores before then it is possibly stress of some sort because the virus (one of the herpes ones) stays dormant and flares up from time to time. If you never had one before then it is because you picked up the virus somewhere.

It will all come good just be patient and eat a wide variety of different raw foods.

[Traceyraw]

I had a cold sore last week but it was the shortest ones ever. I was juicing so It just came and went like that. I hope yours goes away. For my sinus I lay with my head hanging over the bed. Squirt Ocean(saline) nose spray until it reaches my frontal sinuses. Sit up and let it drain. It hurts a little but the relief is so great. The salt kills the type of bacteria that usually causes those infections. Hope you get some relief soon.

[Juicing Juli]

I just read some place on this site that it can take the liver up to 6 weeks to detox when going raw. That's so interesting to me. Anyway, I have had cold sores most of my adult life, so I am familiar with most of the triggers...stress, hormones, virus, sun, wind, diet....
one of the foods that you need to stay away from when you get one is nuts. That's kind of a problem on this diet. Anyway, I did it today and I was fine.
I use a netti pot and do a ton of other holistic things...garlic, high C, lysine, onions, lots of water...
I did juice yesterday and today in addition to raw fruits and vegies. I think that's how I got rid of the majority of my sinus pain. Oh! I also do manual lymphatic massage of my face. That's a big help.
Thank you for comments, Mystic Tree and Tracey Raw!!!

[Traceyraw]

There is a liver cleanse in the forum. One of the top three. I have never tried it but Im sure it works great. :) hope you feel better.

[Raw Angel Mom]

Oh, i am so sorry. I was sick a lot my first year of raw food. I had many cold sore too, flu etc... Yes you are detoxing but you are also dealing with the cold. Your immune system will get stronger. I haven't got the flu yet even though people around me are sick. I am crossing my finger. Even last year, i got a couple bad bronchitic. Raw food doesn't immune us from the cold etc... but, our immune system get much better and we get on our feet quicker. I never took anti-biotic ever, so this tell you that eating well play a huge role on our recovery.

There are natural herbs that help to cure the cold sore, look into that. I cannot remember them just now but it made a difference to do this.

Look into colonic or enema, they really, really help with detox.

All the best!

[Juicing Juli]

Thanks Raw Angel Mom! I appreciate it. I am totally into holistic remedies....essential oils..(put tea tree oil on the cold sores last night) herbs...do a lot of dandelion...am taking oregano oil too...echinacia tincture...licorice root...
Interesting to hear your experience. I'm so new to the raw world that each day is a new experience and education. I keep hearing a voice inside that says "you've eaten poorly for so long, how do you expect to be healed in three weeks". Although, I say I ate poorly...I ate a ton of great things...lots of raw and cooked vegies...probiotics, digestive enzymes, supplements...but also bad...although the bad was always organic. Anyway..I'm onto a new path in my life and trust that it is a good one!

How long have you been raw???



Oh, i am so sorry. I was sick a lot my first year of raw food. I had many cold sore too, flu etc... Yes you are detoxing but you are also dealing with the cold. Your immune system will get stronger. I haven't got the flu yet even though people around me are sick. I am crossing my finger. Even last year, i got a couple bad bronchitic. Raw food doesn't immune us from the cold etc... but, our immune system get much better and we get on our feet quicker. I never took anti-biotic ever, so this tell you that eating well play a huge role on our recovery.

There are natural herbs that help to cure the cold sore, look into that. I cannot remember them just now but it made a difference to do this.

Look into colonic or enema, they really, really help with detox.

All the best!

[Raw Angel Mom]

Thanks Raw Angel Mom! I appreciate it. I am totally into holistic remedies....essential oils..(put tea tree oil on the cold sores last night) herbs...do a lot of dandelion...am taking oregano oil too...echinacia tincture...licorice root...
Interesting to hear your experience. I'm so new to the raw world that each day is a new experience and education. I keep hearing a voice inside that says "you've eaten poorly for so long, how do you expect to be healed in three weeks". Although, I say I ate poorly...I ate a ton of great things...lots of raw and cooked vegies...probiotics, digestive enzymes, supplements...but also bad...although the bad was always organic. Anyway..I'm onto a new path in my life and trust that it is a good one!

How long have you been raw???


Oh we are definitely on the same page. I am also all about trying natural first. I did a few good detox with simply raw which help enormously, but it is when i finally took the plunge to try water fast that i saw dramatic improvement in my body.

Don't give up on raw food, it is without question a very important step to help with your health, youth and well being. If you haven't get Alissa's DVD and books, you need to get them. Alissa is so good to motivate you and she is filled with clever idea.

[Juicing Juli]

Thank you Raw Angel Mom (love your name),
I do have Alissa's first book and use it often. I also have others that give me comfort. A water fast, eh? I've done juice fasting for about 20 years now, but never a water fast. It has been two years since my last one, which is unusual.
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
Have a great day!
Juli

Oh we are definitely on the same page. I am also all about trying natural first. I did a few good detox with simply raw which help enormously, but it is when i finally took the plunge to try water fast that i saw dramatic improvement in my body.

Don't give up on raw food, it is without question a very important step to help with your health, youth and well being. If you haven't get Alissa's DVD and books, you need to get them. Alissa is so good to motivate you and she is filled with clever idea.

[bonzer]

I just heard of a new 'natural' way to rid yourself of most viruses:

herpes resolved.com

also, using food-grade hydrogen peroxide helps clean out any detox matters left in the body

Peace, Bonnie

[Traceyraw]

Hi Bronzer, I didn't know you could ingest Hydr. Peroxide. I thought it induced vomiting???

[Juicing Juli]

This detox is $300!!!

what do you mean using food grade hydrogen peroxide??? How?
Please tell me more!
thank you.
Juli


I just heard of a new 'natural' way to rid yourself of most viruses:

herpes resolved.com

also, using food-grade hydrogen peroxide helps clean out any detox matters left in the body

Peace, Bonnie

[Raw Angel Mom]

I just heard of a new 'natural' way to rid yourself of most viruses:

herpes resolved.com

also, using food-grade hydrogen peroxide helps clean out any detox matters left in the body

Peace, Bonnie

Did you every try this on you the food-grade hydrogen peroxide. If yes, how did you take it, with water and how much???

p.s Food grade peroxide is use often to put on your seed before sprouting them. It is sell at a health food store.

[rawmiss]

I've done juice fasting for about 20 years now, but never a water fast. It has been two years since my last one, which is unusual.

You've done juice fasting for 20 years? We should be asking you about detox!

[Juicing Juli]

lol.....yes...but for many of those years I would only do 4-5 days...then about 15 years ago I ventured to 10 days with a few on either end of raw...then a couple years ago I got up to 30 juicing with a few on either end raw...
I followed all the suggestions...epsom baths, dry skin brushing, enemas, lemon water, isolation from t.v....media...negative influences. It's been a great experience. It's been a couple years however since I've done one for any length of time!


You've done juice fasting for 20 years? We should be asking you about detox!

[michigan roman]

isolation from the massive negative affects of tv / media could cure ANYTHING :D

[michigan roman]

the herpes fix is no doubt in some type raw plant , a weed / herb / root / leaf . something not aten as a regular food or itd already be discovered .
but it has to be raw not empty dried junk . maybe inner tree bark who knows . but , proper high raw diet has to accompany it or the body / liver
shall remain too fouled to get strong enough to defeat virus

[Juicing Juli]

I agree M.R.! From my natural health studies...the skin is a reflection of
the health of your liver! There definitely are great herbs for this including dandelion root which is my fav.!
I think my liver is showing it's gratitude by giving me the cold sores. They are almost gone after about 5 days.
I was reading something by David Wolfe who says that when going raw,
your body will be in some state of detox for one month for every year of your SAD! That's a long time! I think most of the bad experiences happen in
the beginning. We'll see!!!




the herpes fix is no doubt in some type raw plant , a weed / herb / root / leaf . something not aten as a regular food or itd already be discovered .
but it has to be raw not empty dried junk . maybe inner tree bark who knows . but , proper high raw diet has to accompany it or the body / liver
shall remain too fouled to get strong enough to defeat virus

[michigan roman]

im starting a new juice fast 6pm and im going to go out in garden and dig up some dandy roots to juice this fast

last year i grew a bunch of catalogna dandelion seed from johnnys seeds o maine and it was a great salad add ,
so much better than the wilted dandelions ive been buying in stores for years . dont know why it took me so many
years to get it going in my garden

i have to look into buying some milk thistle seed for liver too , if never seen richters herb seeds of ontario canada
has an awesome collection of over 1000 herb seeds in their catalog

[therawmichelle]

Hey there!

Lots of good advice was given here.

I just wanted to add that your symptoms could simply be your immune system trying to fight off the outbreak and keep the virus in check.

I don't think there's much cause for concern yet. Give it a few more days. Just make sure you're eating a lot of foods that boost immunity and that you're getting some physical exercise.

If you continue to feel bad, try to make a list of what you are eating regularly and gradually take out each ingredient, one by one. Go a day or two without eating each of the ingredients. This way, you may be able to isolate whatever is making you feel bad. It worked for me.

Best of luck to you!

[Aleesha Sattva]

for cold sores... i give my kids lysine. it stops the sores and speeds up healing greatly!!! i buy it in powder from bio-alternatives. loooove the quality of their products. been buying from them for over 4 years now.

[Juicing Juli]

Hi Aleesha;
Yes, I take lysine too in a topical oinment as well as sublingually. I've told friend about this. My local health food store now carries it in chapstick form which is new to me. Thank you for the suggestion however!!!
I love these conversations!
Juli


for cold sores... i give my kids lysine. it stops the sores and speeds up healing greatly!!! i buy it in powder from bio-alternatives. loooove the quality of their products. been buying from them for over 4 years now.