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Dent de Lion
11-22-2011, 01:39 PM
Is there anyone on this site without digestive issues (especially if you used to have them and overcame them) and also has a flat belly?

If so, can you please post what worked for you, what you eat, etc. ?

Dent de Lion
11-24-2011, 11:30 PM
Since no one has replied, I'm assuming that no one who frequents this forum meets that description. Isn't that an indicator that there is something imperfect about the approach to diet that this site promotes?

I don't enjoy perfect digestion myself, and am considering making alterations to my diet in hopes of achieving it.

MysticTree
11-24-2011, 11:51 PM
Since no one has replied, I'm assuming that no one who frequents this forum meets that description. Isn't that an indicator that there is something imperfect about the approach to diet that this site promotes?


or maybe it's the stipulation that as well as no digestive issues (which is rather vague in the first place) people should reply only if they have a flat tummy as well!

I don't have digestion issues but my tummy isn't flat so I didn't reply.

Dent de Lion
11-25-2011, 02:57 AM
or maybe it's the stipulation that as well as no digestive issues (which is rather vague in the first place) people should reply only if they have a flat tummy as well!

I don't have digestion issues but my tummy isn't flat so I didn't reply.


I'm skeptical that anyone can be completely without digestive issues and not have a flat stomach. I'm not saying you're not being truthful, I'm just wondering if we may have different definitions of "digestion issues." I personally believe that a flat stomach is an important indicator of health (unless you're pregnant, of course.) It's reflective of balanced hormones and body chemistry, efficient digestion, colon health, etc. There are certainly unhealthy folks with flatter bellies, but in general it's a strong sign of health.

MysticTree
11-25-2011, 03:22 AM
I don't think a flat stomach is in any way natural unless you work at it. Women naturally have a slightly rounded belly - nothing to do with pregnancy. Those who are over weight will likely have a bigger belly than "flat" and they need not have any digestion issues.

people look for ills and complaints when they really just need to get on with being and stop obsessing.

betty boop
11-25-2011, 10:47 AM
or maybe it's the stipulation that as well as no digestive issues (which is rather vague in the first place) people should reply only if they have a flat tummy as well!

I don't have digestion issues but my tummy isn't flat so I didn't reply.

Same reason I didn't reply.

Ucat
11-26-2011, 08:00 AM
I have no digestion issues since being raw and my belly has gone extremely flat. But then again I never had problems with digestion, at least any that I was aware of. I used to have a very bloated belly, constantly, and since I stopped drinking beer and went raw it went flat quickly. But the belly quickly started coming back when I went back to drinking alcohol and eating pasta and other cooked food for 6 days. Now I'm back on raw again and feeling and looking great! But I have other health issues that I'm still looking for solutions.

Oh, and I did the 3-month candida cleanse by Dr. Jeffrey McCombs which is very effective and helps to get a flat belly but that was before I became raw - the diet is almost impossible to do while 100% raw but a very effective one anyway.

Now my main problem is that I'm getting too skinny and I would like some of the roundness back (not on the belly though, obviously)!

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Ucat
11-26-2011, 08:05 AM
It could be candida that causes bloated belly. Dr. McCombs book "Lifeforce Plan" is available on Amazon for pennies and explains this issue very well in a concise package. (And his diet allows the eating of fruit. But you will have to spend quite a bit of money on supplements.)

Dr Douglas Graham (author of 80-10-10) reckons that you can get rid of candida by eating ONLY fruit for a week. If you're intersted in this, ask me for the quote from the book, I can post it here.

Also, probiotics are important for a flat belly or alternatively fermented foods

HeatherAnne
11-26-2011, 09:24 AM
Oh, and I did the 3-month candida cleanse by Dr. Jeffrey McCombs which is very effective and helps to get a flat belly but that was before I became raw - the diet is almost impossible to do while 100% raw but a very effective one anyway. www.cheap-health-revolution.com

Can I ask why the diet was almost impossible to do while raw? Thanks.

Ucat
11-26-2011, 03:20 PM
Can I ask why the diet was almost impossible to do while raw? Thanks.

Well, you are not allowed to eat any nuts or seeds, including coconut water. You can eat fruit but not fruit juices. Also no dried fruit is allowed. Also no fresh figs or dates until Week 9.

It''s not impossible but seems difficult enough for me to achieve... still in the early stages of being raw...

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Dent de Lion
11-27-2011, 12:09 AM
It could be candida that causes bloated belly. Dr. McCombs book "Lifeforce Plan" is available on Amazon for pennies and explains this issue very well in a concise package. (And his diet allows the eating of fruit. But you will have to spend quite a bit of money on supplements.)

Dr Douglas Graham (author of 80-10-10) reckons that you can get rid of candida by eating ONLY fruit for a week. If you're intersted in this, ask me for the quote from the book, I can post it here.

Also, probiotics are important for a flat belly or alternatively fermented foods

I've had yeast issues in the past, and cured them by eating only fruit (except no fatty fruit) for a while. It definitely works. All my symptoms went away with two days. After a while I drifted back to eating lots of sweets and fats, and had yeast issues again. Fruit only cured it again.

I don't have yeast issues anymore now that I am careful to not eat too much fat. (If fat works for others, great. I'm not anti-fat, I'm just doing what works for me.)

I guess I'll just have to keep tweaking my diet.

Dent de Lion
11-27-2011, 12:10 AM
I have no digestion issues since being raw and my belly has gone extremely flat. But then again I never had problems with digestion, at least any that I was aware of. I used to have a very bloated belly, constantly, and since I stopped drinking beer and went raw it went flat quickly. But the belly quickly started coming back when I went back to drinking alcohol and eating pasta and other cooked food for 6 days. Now I'm back on raw again and feeling and looking great! But I have other health issues that I'm still looking for solutions.

Oh, and I did the 3-month candida cleanse by Dr. Jeffrey McCombs which is very effective and helps to get a flat belly but that was before I became raw - the diet is almost impossible to do while 100% raw but a very effective one anyway.

Now my main problem is that I'm getting too skinny and I would like some of the roundness back (not on the belly though, obviously)!

__________________________________
www.cheap-health-revolution.com

Do you exercise? What have you been eating?

Dent de Lion
11-27-2011, 12:11 AM
Can I ask why the diet was almost impossible to do while raw? Thanks.

Conventional anti-Candida diets are tough to follow on raw because they exclude all sweets. You're then left with nuts, greens, etc. There are other approaches to combating Candida though, and that's not what I did.

Dent de Lion
11-27-2011, 12:12 AM
I don't think a flat stomach is in any way natural unless you work at it. Women naturally have a slightly rounded belly - nothing to do with pregnancy. Those who are over weight will likely have a bigger belly than "flat" and they need not have any digestion issues.

people look for ills and complaints when they really just need to get on with being and stop obsessing.

I don't mean "flat" as in I'd like to be able to use my abs for a straight edge, and I get your point. I still disagree, but I appreciate your input.

MysticTree
11-27-2011, 12:33 AM
I still disagree, but I appreciate your input.

Are you saying that perforce anyone who is overweight has digestion issues? Sorry I am not sure what it is you are disagreeing with.

It is possible to have digestive discomfort from time to time without someone actually having digestion issues generally.

Ucat
11-27-2011, 05:36 AM
Do you exercise? What have you been eating?

No, I don't really excercise at the moment, apart from cycling to work and back on weekdays. I also don't have any problems with eating fat, my belly stays flat. As soon as I drink beer, though, and perhaps junk cooked food affects as well (white pasta etc.) my belly quickly starts gettingbloated. I guess it's mainly the beer or the processed carbs.

On raw I eat plenty of fruit, plenty of fruit juices, plenty of nuts and fat, no problem. But I'm still in the beginning of my journey so this might not be the optimal way of eating for me.

I think Dr. Douglas Graham's candida cure is anti-fat and Dr. McCombs' book is anti-sugar (but allows eating fruit). Perhaps both are good, alternative approaches for candida. McCombs' one also includes plenty of efficient supplements which kill candida overgrowth and rebuild intestinal flora. The probiotics are crucial to take after candida growth is dealt with.

Also, I read this (silly named but useful) book: Marilyn Glenville: Fat Around the Middle

That's pretty cool that the fruit-only, low-fat diet actually works for candida. But it could be that it's just a temporary solution keeping candida in check but not actually dealing with the overgrowth and rebuilding intestinal flora.

Read McCombs' book, even if you don't wanna spend money doing the diet. It helps.

But it might not be candida that's causing your digestion problems, that's just my first guess. Enemas and colonics help with many belly issues. You could also see a naturopath...

Did your belly go flat when the candida went away on all fruit? If it did, that's a pretty clear indication that candida is the problem.

Exercise doesn't help bloated belly much. It is a diet issue.

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MysticTree
11-27-2011, 05:54 AM
The key is a healthy immune system. Unless you have that then any Candida imbalances that a person has treated with these so-called cures won't stay away.

It's really worth looking into the role of Leptin in the functionality of the immune system among other body-function controls.

Ucat
11-27-2011, 06:18 AM
"The main reason why some people gather more fat around their middle than others is specifically because of the action of the stress hormone cortisol. [...] It is now widely accepted there is a strong connection between stress hormones and the formation of fat around your middle." - Marilyn Glenville: Fat Around the Middle, pp. 11-12

Also, belly fat is also called toxic fat because it is more likely to cause heart disease and other problems. It is also a first warning sign that you're going into the diabetes risk group. (In my case though, it was bloatedness, not fat, so there is a difference.)

> Solutions, according to the above book: reduce stress in your life (need to do this for several months until the body gets used to the idea), stop caffeine and other stimulants which cause cortisol (stress hormone) production, address blood sugar spike problems (hypoglycaemia) (might have to go as far as giving up bananas, at worst case scenario, because it's a hybrid fruit), eat little and often, don't skip breakfast, no processed carbs or sugars, add protein to each meal, eat essential fatty acids, avoid wheat, no dairy, etc.

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MysticTree
11-27-2011, 07:03 AM
nothing really wrong with hybrid fruits. Hybridisation happens in nature all the time. It's called evolution.

HeatherAnne
11-27-2011, 07:15 AM
Well, you are not allowed to eat any nuts or seeds, including coconut water. You can eat fruit but not fruit juices. Also no dried fruit is allowed. Also no fresh figs or dates until Week 9.

It''s not impossible but seems difficult enough for me to achieve... still in the early stages of being raw...

_________________________________________
www.cheap-health-revolution.com

Thanks Ucat. I'm interested in reading McCombs book.

hotboy18
11-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Beer is not the absolute problem for your bloated feeling but consuming processed carbs could be the problem. Many celebs stick to the 30-30-40 diet which consists of 30 percent of carbs, 30 percent of proteins and 40 percent of fats. Also 30 minutes of cardio activity on a regular basis is encouraged to keep your overall body fat percentage down.