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Raven7
11-19-2011, 07:10 AM
Hi, I'm new in this forum and I've got a question.

I have been diagnosed with an overgrowth of candida albicans. As some of you may know, the real issue with yeast overgrowth is too much fat.

Dr. Graham recommends to do a low-fat, vegan diet. So I just wanted to know if eating lots of fruit, but cooked/steamed vegetables will make me get rid of my infection. The reason why I can't eat raw vegetables is because I just don't like them. I've never been able to get used to them. I also can't drink vegetable juices because I almost throw up if I do so.

Are there any other downsides to steamed/cooked vegetables other than the fact they don't have as many vitamins?

Also, I read somewhere that drinking (selfmade) fruit juice is not good for when you have Candida. Is that true?


Thanks in advance.

MysticTree
11-19-2011, 09:24 AM
Firstly, can you tell us whether your diagnosis is one that has been done by a proper test. The saliva test is not reliable. If we assume that it has been properly diagnosed then you are going to get conflicting advice.

Some swear by eating coconut oil - there is a thread somewhere. Many say absolutely no sweet fruits and, since this is a raw food forum, we can't help you when it come to cooking things.

Oh and there are a lot of people who think Candida is over diagnosed and just recommend a varied, raw diet.

Learn to love raw veg. You'll be thankful in time.

Raven7
11-19-2011, 12:15 PM
Firstly, can you tell us whether your diagnosis is one that has been done by a proper test. The saliva test is not reliable. If we assume that it has been properly diagnosed then you are going to get conflicting advice.It has been properly diagnosed... I was diagnosed by a professional using a stool test.


we can't help you when it come to cooking things.I didn't ask for advice on how to cook things. I thought this would be a good place to ask this because I thought people had reasons for eating their vegetabes raw instead of cooked.


Oh and there are a lot of people who think Candida is over diagnosed and just recommend a varied, raw diet.Well, MANY people have Candida so obviously, many people are diagnosed with it.

MysticTree
11-19-2011, 01:30 PM
I didn't ask for advice on how to cook things. I thought this would be a good place to ask this because I thought people had reasons for eating their vegetabes raw instead of cooked.

because raw foods are not damaged foods. But you miss what I meant when I posted. I mean we can't support or discuss cooked foods. It's in the rules.


Well, MANY people have Candida so obviously, many people are diagnosed with it.

We all have it. It's a very natural part of our body flora.

And you'll still get conflicting advice but do search the forum as there are lost of threads that cover this topic.

Aleesha Sattva
11-20-2011, 12:38 AM
Georgina is correct. Sorry Raven but we can't assist you to eat, choose to eat etc. cooked food items. This forum is here to support people who are choosing to eat raw. We aren't here to convert anyone... only to support those who want to live this lifestyle choice.

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Arky
11-26-2011, 10:51 AM
Candida isn't all about fat intake.

You might also consider other possibilities:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?63346-Candida-is-making-my-life-miserable&p=661325&highlight=#post661325

Ucat
11-26-2011, 02:33 PM
Yes, Dr Graham recommends getting rid of candida by eating fruit only - he says it will clear within a week (or two?). Do you have the book? If not I can quote from it for you.

The second best (shortest and easiest) cure for Candida I know of is Dr. McCombs' Diet. You can get his informative book on candida on Amazon for pennies: Dr. Jeffrey McCombs: Lifeforce Plan. It is a very good book to understand candida and to get some advice on how to deal with detoxing candida (getting it out of your body) without suffering. Again, I can outline some things of this book for you if you like.

His diet takes 3+ months but is very effective, I did it and felt great. But it is not very easy on raw foodists. I did it as a vegetarian and was fine, following his recommendations. He also provides email advice. But you have to invest quite a bit on the vitamins and the probiotics, and undecenoic acid, which is apparently the most potent candida fighting supplement out there. Other candida diets take a lot longer.

I find it strange that you can't tolerate raw vegetables - perhaps it has to do with candida? If I was you, I would concentrate on getting rid of candida first and explore raw food more after. In fact, that's what I did.

Dr. Combs says fruit juices have too much concentrated sugar. Dr. Graham on the other hand says that these rules don't apply to 80-10-10 dieters. Maybe try the short, quick and easy way first (Dr. Graham) and if it doesn't work, turn to McCombs. But being a 100% fruitarian migth be quite hard if you just go cold turkey, instead of transitioning slowly.

Hope this helps!

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Ucat
11-26-2011, 02:53 PM
As some of you may know, the real issue with yeast overgrowth is too much fat.

Dr. Graham recommends to do a low-fat, vegan diet. So I just wanted to know if eating lots of fruit, but cooked/steamed vegetables will make me get rid of my infection.

I guess what I'm saying is that you can go either route: Dr. Graham: low-fat, high sugar - Dr. McCombs: low sugar (with supplements), but fat allowed.

Dr. Graham has a forum discussing 80-10-10, maybe you can ask for testimonials and specifics there.
http://vegsource.com/talk/raw/index.html

But return here and tell us if it worked for you! I'm extremely curious whether Dr. Douglas Graham is right about this. (Judging by his looks, though, he looks a lot older than many of the non-fruitarian raw fooders, so I doubt whether his diet is as healthy.) Sure enough, there are many raw foodists who say that the 80-10-10 and other fruitarian diets can work for a year or two but then you start getting ill.

Ask me if you want quotes from either of the books.

Ucat
11-26-2011, 03:04 PM
As some of you may know, the real issue with yeast overgrowth is too much fat. [...] So I just wanted to know if eating lots of fruit, but cooked/steamed vegetables will make me get rid of my infection.

Ok, one more thing, maybe this answers your question... quote from 80-10-10 book, p. 39

"The candida microbe is extremely short lived. If folks suffering from candida would simply follow a low-fat diet, most of them would find that their candida issues were completely gone in a matter of just few days. Of course, they may still hae the underlying pacreatic and adrenal fatigue issues to resolve."

The idea being, that excess fat will not allow the sugar to be utilised by the body in a correct way and it stays in the blood stream for abnormally long time, feeding candida. But one thing he highlights is to make absolutely sure that you get enough calories - hard to do if you eat extremely low fat. So you need to count your calories and eat copius amounts of fruit! Vegetables, raw or cooked, take a back seat on his diet, because there are hardly any calories in them.

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