whole oatmeal

[Douglas]

is oatmeal ok if you just soak it in water over night? I read about it in the fit for life book bye dr. Furhman As long as it was not the instant kind. Let me know and thanks Douglas In Calif......... :) :D :)

[Shona]

Soaked oatmeal is fine to eat. Enjoy.

Shona :)

[MAK]

Nevertheless, it is still a grain product with lectins and glutten. So eat at your own risk ,-)))). Have few fruits instead.

[ReneeSC]

http://www.finerhealth.com/Educational_Info/Gluten_Sensitivity/

Douglas, this above site is for you to read up on people who have a natural aversion or a chemical aversion to eating gluten-type grains.

You can try soaking and sprouting some raw buckwheat groats ( the whole food, not milled or changed in any way ) - and you'll have morphed this "fruit of grain" into a natural protein source as well. It only takes about 24 hours on the countertop.

[Rawkinlocs]

Douglas,

Many of us here eat and enjoy oat groats (not rolled oats) that are either whole or steel-cut.

REMEMBER...you are just starting out so you don't need to start worrying about all the "rules" of not eating grains, etc. Try some...soak some oat groats overnight and the next morning blend a bit in the blender into a sort of "porridge" and have with cinnamon, dash of sea salt, and the sweetener of your choice...even some chopped fruit such as apples or bananas or add some raisins. See how YOU feel after eating them and if you feel fine, then eat them until YOUR body tells you otherwise.

Also, check out this thread: http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3098&highlight=grain+flaker
for info on how to obtain a grain flaker that will make the oat groats into hand-rolled oats! I LOVE this little gadget as it gives my family and I oatmeal and you don't have to blend anything or soak overnight...just for a short bit in the morning.

Alissa also sells raw oat groats on her site as some say that the oat groats in stores may not be truly raw. But in transitioning from a SAD (standard American Diet) to raw, sometimes oats can be a "bridge" food. So please don't be fearful of at least trying them out and seeing how you feel when you eat them. For now, oats are a main staple in my and my families diet and we're doing fine with them thus far! :D

[ReneeSC]

Oh how glad I am you chimied in here. I lost my initial post about this grain and wheat ....

it was.. well.. challenging...to say the least. I was telling Douglas to eat them if he really wanted to.. ( that post, like I said, was lost from me searching through thigns to substantiate what I was saying... and I figured I didn't want to start a war, so I changed it Now that I did, it looks like I caved.. I wasn't caving.. but thank you for pulling up the rear!)

I just thought, instead from me, Douglas could read for himself about gluten sensitivities and make his own decision. I spoke of buckwheat because it seems not to make people angry. :)

I don't like it when people give off warnings without any other information to us new people.

And, yeah.. I'm getting her raw oats :)

Doug, Darlin'.. just do what Alissa says, Hon... really.. just do it. If you run into trouble, just come a'callin'.

[Punky]

I just thought, instead from me, Douglas could read for himself about gluten sensitivities and make his own decision. I spoke of buckwheat because it seems not to make people angry. :)

I don't like it when people give off warnings without any other information to us new people.

I agree. A lot of people do not even know what gluten is. Not everyone is sensitive to gluten but a lot of people are, so
having them know what gluten sensitivity entails was good advice w/the link
provided Renee (since it was already brought up in a previous post)!

For what it's worth Renee, Dr. Kenneth Fine of finerhealth.com is a wonderful person too.
He walks the talk and eats very simply. He is *the person* that "turned" me onto raw foods. I use to belong to his local organic produce co-op. He is very non-judgemental too.

Oh, and I was going to order some of Alissa's raw oats too. They sound great.
I'm trying to turn on a raw curious friend who loves oatmeal for breakfast.
So it will be perfect for her! Also teaching her to make buckwheaties for breakfast and raw-nola.

[MAK]

Well, As they say: as many pople as many opinions. If you like and want to eat something you will the reason and argument why you can eat this food even if it is not good for you. I did this shtick with roasted epeanuts. How stupid I was. Eat oatmeals. It will not kill you....right away ,-))))))).
BTW buckwheat is not a grain per se, but rather flower seed that is high in carbo (64%). No glutten.
Just because some people do not know what glutten means, does not mean it does not harm internal organs. In some countries (Europe, Israel) it is a law to indicate on the label if glutten is present.

[Rawkinlocs]

MAK, you are really pushing my buttons here! AGAIN...coming from a diet of eating fried foods, processed foods, etc. and transitioning to a diet of raw foods, eating some raw oats is NOT going to KILL anyone...now or later!!!

Gluten sensitivity is not apparent in every human being. Grains may or may not be optimal in the human diet, but for NOW, if this man feels the need to eat them, then stop with the scare tactics and allow people to eat what they need to eat as they make this transition from a SAD to raw!

As I've said before, as his body gets cleaner the longer he eats raw, his own body will let him know if he can or cannot eat oats or any other grain for that matter as MOST people experience the longer they're raw, just as my husband did. When he used to eat oats, nothing would happen. But now that he's cleaner and his diet is cleaner, he feels the effects that eating them has on him (bloating) and he's cutting them out of his diet.

Yes, it's good to be aware of what gluten sensitivities may entail, etc. (thanks for the link Renee) but don't go around telling people if they eat raw oats they'll die sooner or later (paraphrasing, but that's the jist of what you said) because there are upteen different things that we supposedly cannot or should not eat on this raw "diet" and if we got into exploring them all, then there would be practically nothing left to eat! So just knock it off, please.

[Punky]

Just because some people do not know what glutten means, does not mean it does not harm internal organs. In some countries (Europe, Israel) it is a law to indicate on the label if glutten is present.

Mak,
I don't think this thread was started to argue about gluten sensitivities.
We need to be respectful of that.
I think it is fine to let people know about it and make their own decisions
on what's right for them at that time in their life.
www.finerhealth.com specializes in gluten sensitivities if anyone was interested in reading about it.

It can be *overwelming* to someone transitioning to this lifestyle to also
drop all grains out too was the point, especially if they do not even know or understand what gluten is. I think the intended question was more related to whether or not oats where raw and ok to eat in general.

With that said, I'm on your side about gluten intolerance. My oldest son
has been gluten free (among other things) for 4 1/2 years so I know quite a bit about the subject. Just last weekend a friend called me up that I haven't spoke to in over a year. She has been having intestinal flair ups for years and years. A couple of years ago I mentioned to her to get checked out for Celiac
disease and she said that was NOT it. She felt fine after eating bread it was after eating produce that she would have her bouts.
Well she finally got diagnosed last week with celiac disease and called me up to tell me. I didn't say I told you so, but am so rejoiced that she is finally getting some relief. I am also more confident in my knowledge and sharing it with others with tack.
And yes, Europe is much more aware of gluten intolerances-- as where in the states they are still in the dark about it and diagnosing it correctly and more easily.
Peace

[Punky]

And for those that ARE interested in learning more about *gluten* intolerance,
it is spelled, "gluten" NOT "glutten". Hope that helps incase you choose to do a search on it.

[MAK]

whatever. let him eat glutten (i still like double "T" ,-))).

btw, "incase" should be "in case" :D

[ReneeSC]

whatever. let him eat glutten (i still like double "T" ,-))).

btw, "incase" should be "in case"


_____________ that was evil !


Can we 'ignore' people on here?

[RawTruth]

Yes, Renee -- there's actually a way to officially ignore them where you won't even see their posts -- it's like magic .. or Bewitched .. just wiggle your nose and they disappear (don't you wish!).

Or, of course, there's the "enlightened" way that many of us (try to) practice which is to let replies we find petty or annoying just flow right past us, making sure not to write a response to them.

Makes life much more pleasant either way you choose! :D

[MAK]

what is evil?
to give a guy a good advice?

[ReneeSC]

MAK, you didn't give him "advice", you threw out there confusion. I totally understand where you're coming from, though! I have a child here who is gluten intolerant; more so than anyone else in the house, and I'm having a TIME getting her off of it. The OP may not know about whole grains. We're not sure what he can tolerate with his current stomach set up anyway. I'd be dubious telling him to have whole grains for that reason, but if he can tolerate it and it keeps him raw for now.. ( shrug ).

Yes, I know, now, that buckwheat is not within the "grain" classification system, I just didn't say that. You're right, though.

The evil part was the "glutten" comment.

Goodness knows I've been what I'd call a bit "gluttenous" since coming off of cooked carbs, hard cheeses, colas, refined sugars.. etc. It's not something I'm happy about, but.. hey.... I'm raw. :)

[ebonysea7]

Goodness knows I've been what I'd call a bit "gluttenous" since coming off of cooked carbs, hard cheeses, colas, refined sugars.. etc. It's not something I'm happy about, but.. hey.... I'm raw. :)


ReneeSC, I'm in the same boat but the good thing about it is by continuing to stay true to raw, you'll eventually no longer want to eat so much. (At least, that's what I'm counting on.)

To stay on topic, I LOVE oats and find they agree with me very well. Until I no longer want them, I'll probably continue to eat them. Call me a glutton for gluten. :D

/gfj

P.S. Doug, bet you didn't expect your simple question to cause so much controversy. :rolleyes:

[Born2run]

If you want to know about Gluten Intolerance you can go to www.gluten.net. It's not that Oatmeal has got gluten necessarily, but they process it in the same facility with wheat and you run into cross contamination. That becomes a problem for someone suffering celiac disease or someone that develops a rash or behavior problems after injesting gluten. I have celiac disease, and my grandbaby gets such severe respiratory problems that last time she accidentally got some we ended up taking her to the hospital. So for some people oats are not an option. Thank goodness not everyone is at risk. Judy

[Rawkinlocs]

I'm going to close this thread now because the OP has been addressed and it's just going on and on with MAK and his sarcasm, etc.

So, thanks to all who contributed...Douglas, bottom line...look into the site Renee and born2run provided to make sure you don't have any gluten issues but also remember that soaked and/or sprouted grains quite possibly will not have the same effect on you as grains that were cooked etc.

Just eat RAW baby! Let your body be your guide! :)