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EscapeArtist
10-10-2011, 12:58 AM
I've been 70+% raw the last few months, but i've over-eaten the entire way through those months, and gained weight. Most of those days I would be 100% raw and have a pretty big cooked dinner on the 2nd or 3rd day. But I was telling myself that as long as i'm high raw (or 100% raw) it doesn't matter how much I eat. Problem is that I eat all day, non stop, maybe an hour or two in between hours of eating even when it's raw. Of course, 70% didn't give me nearly the results 100% has given me in the past (including elimination of depression) and a lot of the eating has been emotional
I've only been 100% raw for two days but today I can't stop eating. I feel physically full but not full enough for food not to still taste good, so I've just been eating and eating alll day (all raw, though). I'm wondering if, after a few weeks or so raw, this will naturally go away? Will I naturally begin to feel full, or maybe the energy that I gain will make it so that I seek out other things to do in the day? I guess you can't tell me what will happen, but what was your experience with this, and should I be doing something about this now?
Should I eat as much as I want as long as it's raw while I transfer to 100%, or do something about it?
Steven
10-10-2011, 01:11 AM
From reading this it sounds like youre not eating enough calories when fully raw or high percentage which then leads to wanting to constantly eat or eat large portions of cooked foods. Track your food in a program like Cronometer(www.cronometer.com) for a while to get a good idea of how many calories you are eating a day.
EscapeArtist
10-10-2011, 01:46 AM
Hmm, I'm usually eating about 3000 calories a day. I'm about 5'6 and female, sedentary. So I think that's enough?? Especially seeing i'm gaining weight
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
10-10-2011, 05:26 AM
l am not an expert in this but maybe it's the type of food you are eating. Are you eating deficient sources of food that has been harvested days or weeks before? Are you eating alot of store bought fruit? This could be a problem.
l used to eat alot when l got back into raw, but l rarely ate more than 2,000 calories and l never ate more often than 3 - 4 hours apart. Now l hardly eat anything and can get by easily on just green juices and not feel any hunger. l can way under-eat on calories now (many long term raw fooders on good diets report the same) as long as l eat foods high in sunlight /amino acids via grasses, sprouts, algae and seaweeds and get some full body exposure out in the sun (or focus on sunflower greens). lf l can gain muscle on less than 1,000 calories and have extremely high energy and keep good blood work etc, l know l am doing it right.
Make most of your foods sunlight foods and exercise and see how things improve. Stabilise your blood sugar and nourish yourself via sunlight foods so you don't feel the need to eat so much. l can't stress greens enough (home grown greens, NOT store bought greens), they are everything in a diet...the diet must be a very clean one if you want this to work properly.
lt's amazing what highly spiritual people can accomplish too. l know a bunch of people who almost live on nothing and thrive. l spoke to a humble fella the other day who has been surviving on 3 almonds a day for the last two years and looks great, he is in his 50's and only looks 30. The fellow doesn't boast about it, he just quietly mentioned it to me when l asked what he ate. But don't worry about those people....we aren't at their level, so lets do things normal folk do.
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In summery: strongly emphasise sprouted greens, especially wheatgrass (30 ml = 1 gram of protein), algae, sprouts and seaweeds. lf you are scared and mentally tell yourself you need extra calories, then add in sprouted seeds and fruit, BUT...get rid of it when your body tells you it's o.k to do so, in time you will know when to drop certain foods. But whatever you do, never eat the junk foods and always eat the highest vibrational foods and the body will fall into a natural harmony and you will want for nothing.
And just remember, it's not all about calories and the so called vitamins and minerals in foods (that is old hat thinking that is well outdated), so cronometers don't mean much in the whole picture. We are bioelectric, so eating foods that still contain high enzymes (sprouts are the best source) and electromagnetic frequency are key to everything!!! They have recently discovered that enzymes in the foods are actually critical for our health and do survive the stomach acids because they travel through the acids instead of just sit in the acid and get burned up; they have also tagged enzymes and seen them come out in the faeces. So the most important thing is to eat highly nutritious foods that are FRESH!!!
Late edit: but...you don't want to be doing under 1,000 calories if you are eating a diet of fruit and nuts and chips for example because l reckon a person would probably crash and burn. The key to eating under 1,000 calories and feeling full is to eat lots of sunlight foods high in electromagnetic vibrations...so sprouted greens and a variety of algaes. But you don't rush these things, you do it as you feel ready. But yeah...this is a good aim to make because a clean body that survives this way experiences amazing things because it falls into a natural harmony. Eating the fruit, nuts, seeds and vegies makes it alot trickier (the body starts getting bogged down, clogs and has lower vibration) and l think makes one require more calories to survive. lt's amazing what the body can achieve if you give it the absolute top feul.
EscapeArtist
10-10-2011, 03:12 PM
Mr. Raw,
I am drinking a lot of green juices (store-green juices), I usually have at least 5 cups a day of pure green juice, and looking back on it that's the only thing that keeps me full for a good 3 hours. But I am also eating a lot of nuts, and also a lot of avocado (I find avocado to be almost addicting! But it's not as bad as fruit so it's not much of a problem). I try to keep my fruit eating minimal, but I realize that when I DO have my fruit after not having any all day, it's in the evening in the form of a raw treat, and that seems to be what sets off my endless hunger. Once I eat any sweet fruit, I'll crave sweet fruit and raw deserts all day and my hunger singles are off. I'll keep an eye out for that, i'm not sure if i'm ready to eliminate it, but i'm excited to be able to eventually.
I'm going to up my intake of sprouts/algae/seaweed and greens. Are seeds more nutrient dense vs. nuts in general? I could also replace my almond milk with pumpkin or sesame milk...I've got a sprout mix lying around that I haven't attempted to sprout, and a package of raw unhulled sunflower seeds that I could make greens from. I LOVE seaweed to death but it's really expensive for my budget (if I have it around I just will eat all of it in a few days) so that one will have to wait.
I don't have a garden at the moment, but I'll think about starting a winter garden perhaps.
Thanks for your reply! I really appreciate it
greens, can also be coupled with cold according to 5 element principles of food properties. Which means, a slow down of digestion, or rather, rising or stagnating energy.
So I'm not exactly sure just greens is nourishing you as much as you think, making you less hungry because you're just getting more "nutritional energy" beyond calories.
It's possible, but i do know that when I drink green juices, it does make me less hungry... but the question is can I do hardcore exercise on that energy?
Now I'm not saying that I don't agree with you Mr. Raw, what you say can definitely possible. I'm just offering another perspective: are you less hungry because you're really getting enough nutrients with high quality but less quantity of food? Or can it be some of the actions/properties of the specific you eat which is making you feel less hungry?
Ie, think of it like for example take a drug, that makes you feel less hungry, even though you are not getting enough calories it is making you feel somwhat anorexic.
Perhaps also, greens are perhaps one of the best foods to stabilize and balance blood sugar levels.
Hiya,
I don't really know much about this but I do know that I'm always hungry when I have deficiencies (which the vast majority from people coming over from cooked have). I've heard of the body craving nutrients so badly that when you first switch to raw food it makes you eat as much as you physically can manage. Does that sound right to you?
Also, I tried to do a master cleanse like 4 months ago and couldn't do it because I was non-stop hungry. Someone suggested to me that I had deficiencies that were making my body scream for food, so what I did was vegetable juices every other day. Loads of spinach and celery. And voila, on this master cleanse I haven't had the hungry problem, not once. But it took me a couple months of green juice (aka nutrients) to reach this stage.
Maybe this is your ish :) and if so, then that's good because it means you're nourishing your body. I'd recommend green smoothies btw :dance:
yep, and when you remineralize your body and take in those nutrients your absorption and also utilization of nutrients and energy become much more efficient. This is always the case in a proper raw food lifestyle.
EscapeArtist
10-10-2011, 06:20 PM
Hiya,
I don't really know much about this but I do know that I'm always hungry when I have deficiencies (which the vast majority from people coming over from cooked have). I've heard of the body craving nutrients so badly that when you first switch to raw food it makes you eat as much as you physically can manage. Does that sound right to you?
Also, I tried to do a master cleanse like 4 months ago and couldn't do it because I was non-stop hungry. Someone suggested to me that I had deficiencies that were making my body scream for food, so what I did was vegetable juices every other day. Loads of spinach and celery. And voila, on this master cleanse I haven't had the hungry problem, not once. But it took me a couple months of green juice (aka nutrients) to reach this stage.
Maybe this is your ish :) and if so, then that's good because it means you're nourishing your body. I'd recommend green smoothies btw :dance:
I would love for this to be the case :) That is overeating for the right reasons.
I feel this could be part of it. Right now I'm beginning to wonder about zinc because whenever I receive a high dose of zinc (pumpkin seeds or a zinc supplement) I am so full I can barely eat the next day.... I'll keep this in mind, thanks
I think it's actually that first off, a person's digestino could be weak, and therefore not be digesting raw foods properly esp. if cold, and still deficient in nutrients by not doing it right. Also it can just be worry that a person is getting enough, when in fact he/she is it's just people are used to feeling full and warmed (thermal effect of eating cooked foods, and feeling the digestion working more intensely) and raw foods might just feel lighter, so one thinks it's not filling enough.
CaraS
10-11-2011, 12:25 AM
From your first post, you identified this as emotional eating. I can relate as I've struggled with that for my whole life. Just going raw doesn't make that go away. It takes a lot of introspection and analysis and being kind to yourself. I just completed a course with Angela Stokes-Monarch on her book 'Raw Emotions'. I can't recommend it highly enough. She read the book one day a week for an hour until we'd read through the whole thing - it was 17 weeks i think? She recorded it all on Ustream if you want to watch/listen. Just go to ustream.com and search on 'raw emotions'.
amoux
10-11-2011, 05:19 AM
I agree with CaraS - my gut reaction is that you're using food to 'stuff' some emotions down so you don't have to feel them. I've done this myself. The reason it's something to think about is because you aren't allowing your body to signal when it has had enough. Is the idea of being hungry scary? Just a thought - I'm not familiar with Raw Emotions, but it sounds like a place to start :-)
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
10-11-2011, 06:50 AM
are you less hungry because you're really getting enough nutrients with high quality
lt is this, but it is also the high amino acid foods l eat via high vibration sunlight foods.
Perhaps also, greens are perhaps one of the best foods to stabilize and balance blood sugar levels.
Yes!
EscapeArtist
10-12-2011, 04:18 AM
From your first post, you identified this as emotional eating. I can relate as I've struggled with that for my whole life. Just going raw doesn't make that go away. It takes a lot of introspection and analysis and being kind to yourself. I just completed a course with Angela Stokes-Monarch on her book 'Raw Emotions'. I can't recommend it highly enough. She read the book one day a week for an hour until we'd read through the whole thing - it was 17 weeks i think? She recorded it all on Ustream if you want to watch/listen. Just go to ustream.com and search on 'raw emotions'.
Thank you!!
I think it's a combination of factors, emotional and also having something addicting in my diet where I am able to emotionally eat it, as well as not having a dense enough diet to feel really full.. But emotions are at the core, the rest is all preventative. I'm listening to Raw Emotions now! Thanks again :heart:
jevans
10-12-2011, 04:36 AM
I'm no expert, but 3000 calories and being sedentary is going to put weight on. Doesn't matter WHAT you eat. You are taking in more than you are burning.
RawnieColeman
10-13-2011, 12:26 AM
I've taken a zinc supplement, then suddenly started hating the taste of celery, and I love celery. Our tastes are tied to nutrients, without a doubt.
Problem is the RDA is wrong on almost every account of what our bodies truly need. When it comes to iodine, Vitamin-D, and vitamin C, the recommendation is far, FAR too low compared to what we really need to maintain vibrant health. They say these are the minimum dosages to prevent disease, and yet most people don't even meet this pathetically low standard.
The people in Japan take nearly 100,000% of our RDA of iodine. That's 30g compared to the RDA of 3 mics, heh! Not even LSD is potent at that dosage.
The RDA for vitamin D is a pathetic 600 iu, when you need at least 30-50,000 iu to correct bone deficiencies.
The 18g a day of vitamin C recommended by Linus Pauling, is 3,000% more than R.D.A.
Of course, not every vitamin or mineral should be taken in medicinal doses. A good example is the B-complex, where taking too much of one will cause competitive deficiencies in others.
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