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09-20-2011, 11:18 AM
Okay, so I didn't want to admit this here but now I need help.
I ate some cooked food this morning. I caved and ate two pieces of vegan pizza (please don't hurt me, I am kicking myself already). Now I am very sick with some ... bathroom issues and I feel like someone hit me in the head with a baseball bat with a nail driven through it and like a horse kicked me in the stomach.
I have advanced TMJ in both sides of my jaw and I think that chewing the hard crust is what the migraine is from. I have taken both Tylenol and Excedrin and nothing is helping! I have BAD insurance (they literally don't pay anything, I just have it because the school I go to requires you to have health insurance) and I can only see the on campus doctor for free otherwise I have to have a referral. With a referral I still have to pay 70%! Anyway, I am going to go talk to her tomorrow about my options (a new bite plate or surgery) with this insurance.
Since I likely won't be able to afford anything ... does anyone know anything I can do to relieve inflammation?
Are the other issues due to not having eaten much cooked in a while? Is it just my body rejecting the dead food or am I coming down with something? I feel like I am dying and I really TRULY hate myself right now. I feel like such a failure so I do expect some of these symptoms to be psychosomatic ... but to feel this bad ... REALLY!?!?!
Does anyone know what I can do to get my body back on track and not feel like I am dying? If I didn't know better I would really go check into a hospital (the pain is that bad).
09-20-2011, 11:19 AM
Oh, and I did make a banana/spinach smoothie that I added two capsules of Garden of Life Raw Probiotics for Men to ... will that help a little?
09-20-2011, 11:46 AM
First of all try to congratulate yourself for what you have achieved with raw. You had a cooked hiccough is all.
You do sound as though the pain you are in is an unfair result of falling from the raw path but try to stay hydrated to help with this.
In order to feel better I think you have to let go of the feeling of failure. You haven't failed. You ate some cooked food and you don't have to do that again ... and if you listen to your body I guess you aren't likely to!!!
Chin up and look after yourself and we'll all help as best we can :)
09-20-2011, 12:03 PM
And to help with inflammation, try taking 3 or 4 advil several times a day for 1 week. My doctors had me do that post-surgery and it works remarkably well. But it's important to note that just taking it once, or only taking it when you feel the inflammation is unlikely to be very helpful. My understanding is that you have to keep the levels constant to keep the inflammation down. I definitely would not do it for more than a week without consulting a doctor though!
09-20-2011, 12:11 PM
#1 Be kind to yourself! It sounds like your physically feeling bad enough,there's no need to beat yourself up about eating something less than ideal for yourself. Seriously, would you ever talk to one of your friends like you're talking to yourself? No, you'd more likely encourage them, support them, tell them 'it's ok, we all slip up sometimes, you'll be ok!' It's time to be that kind to yourself :)
As for the headache - time will take care of it on its own - just give your body plenty of water and plenty of fresh foods. If you're prone to migraines you may want to look into using EFT for them. YouTube has a ton of videos if you search on EFT or tapping. And if you're in too much pain to physically tap on the points they describe, you can 'mentally' tap them by envisioning yourself tapping them - I've used this on a migraine before and was amazed at how quickly it worked. (not that I'm diagnosing, treating or prescribing anything...) :)
09-20-2011, 12:53 PM
Thanks everyone! I guess I am being pretty hard on myself ... I guess my body is just telling me what is best and what is best is NOT cooked food!
Thanks for the encouragement everyone! I am so glad that I found this site!
09-20-2011, 01:31 PM
Just wanted to echo what others have said - please don't be hard on yourself - and I hope your campus doctor can advise you on what you need to do to deal with the TMJ. I have a friend who suffers from it and I know it can be very, very painful.
One thing did occur to me, for what it's worth. When you have a moment, can you pinpoint what led to eating the pizza this morning? Have you been eating well the last few days? Just seems like one way to use this experience is as a learning opportunity.
Hope you feel better soon.
09-20-2011, 01:46 PM
Oh, another trick... for the dental surgery I just had, the dentist told me to take 3 advil and 1 extra strength tylenol at the same time (that's 600mg ibuprofen and 500mg acetominophin). They told me that it works better than taking a vicodin, and they were totally right! Again, you want to be careful with how much of this kind of stuff you take without consulting a doctor, but it could help to get you out of immediate pain.
And really, be kind to yourself. We're all on this path together trying to figure it out, and even the most diligent person in the world sometimes eats or does something they regret later. I remember that I used to say to myself that I felt like a pendulum swinging hard from one side to the other... but if you stick with it, things have a way of settling over time. You just have to give your brain and body a chance to come to terms with what you're trying to do. Meanwhile, be kind to yourself when you make mistakes and endeavor to understand why you made the mistake in the first place. Plus, if you don't like how you feel after eating that stuff, then you'll be a lot less likely to give into temptation in the future. So hang in there.. you're doing just fine!
PS.. thanks for the kind words about my profile pic. I figured it was time for an update! Although this one features my swollen jaw, ha!
Dent de Lion
09-20-2011, 04:41 PM
Try having lots of fresh pineapple juice (if you have access to it.) It's the best thing I know for getting over cooked slip-ups. If you don't have a juicer, try eating only pineapple for a day. (If they're not ripe you might "burn" your mouth though.) Pineapple is also wonderful for reducing inflammation.
Other good anti-inflammatories include tumeric and ginger.
Dent de Lion
09-20-2011, 04:42 PM
Tylenol, Advil, etc. all do gastrointestinal damage though, don't they?
09-20-2011, 04:55 PM
They won't do permanent damage if taken on a short term basis, but it's a personal choice. For me, they are preferable to debilitating pain.
09-20-2011, 04:56 PM
From what I've read, papaya helps with inflammation and digestive issues.
For the stomach pain, I had the pains in the past that was that bad too. And from my experiences, on every hour I have drunk Tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with a Tablespoon of honey (you can do without the honey if you want to) mixed in 8oz. of purified water whenever my stomach was in serious pain, I do this till the pain goes away. It is loaded with potassium and the beneficial enzymes. I heard it's supposed to help with headaches as well.
I also take ginger for stomach ailments, one of the best I've tried besides AVC drink.
One time, someone i knew had the worst migraine ever, I made some chamomile tea so it can help the muscles to relax big time. It helped a great deal.
And I've read that peppermint essential oil applied to the temples on the head will help with migraines.
Rosemary will also help too with migraines. Works like an aspirin without the side effects. Never tried it, just something I've read online.
Do some research on cloves, I think it was once used by dentists for pain to have a numbing effect for the mouth.
I agree with caras, be kind to yourself with your thoughts and feelings as you would kiss a boo boo as if you fell down. Bless wherever you're hurting with love from yourself and bless it with positive thoughts.Speak wellness to your body. Be bless with many healing thoughts!!
And as far as the slip up of eating cooked food, don't even sweat it. I find that it's not worth it and a waste of time. Just move on to the next moment as if it happened yesterday and just keep up the good work you're doing. And remove the word "diet" and replace it with "lifestyle. I find by doing that it helped me a great deal to incorporate mainly raw food in my life till it became a part of me that I can not do with out it!!
I wish you very loving speedy healing!!
Raw Angel Mom
09-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Don't worry sweet heart, don't worry. All of the many positive things that you have done for your body aren't in vain and they still count big time.
Learn from your experience and move on. I find green smoothie are very helpful to heal addition and they reset your body in your time. Just try this. Focus on the now and not you will do better tomorrow but what you are doing now.
I hope you feel well soon.
You are loved and you deserve perfect healthy and beauty.
You are on the right path, don't give up!
09-20-2011, 07:56 PM
I know a teenager who was getting lots and lots of headaches. She finally figured out she had a sensitivity to wheat. Whenever she ate it, she'd get a headache. I'm thinking it's not necessarily the cooked food that did you in, but perhaps a wheat sensitivity. Also, there are some sensitivities that need a certain combo to become active ---like the wheat and the cheese ---which is why allergies/sensitivities are often so darned difficult to figure out.
So, maybe it's a good thing! Maybe now you know you have a sensitivity to wheat or something else in that pizza, or a combo. Me? I'd want to figure out what it was, so I might actually eat one component at a time (in small quantities) Believe it or not, this may help you for the future so that you know it will be really bad if you eat wheat ---or whatever. May help you mentally resist that certain food.
Might not be a popular one here to suggest you try eating some cooked food again, but for me, I'd like to figure it out.
Just some thoughts.
09-20-2011, 10:35 PM
I do have a wheat intolerance. Every time I eat it I get sick. I haven't eaten it in a long time though. The vegan pizza that I ate was wheat free ... it did have a LOT of corn in the crust though and I think that I have an issue with corn. Eating it raw doesn't bother me to bad as I never eat much of it, but when I used to eat it cooked I would eat quite a bit of it and every time it had the same effect as wheat on my body.
Oh, and when I eat raw corn it is organic, but when it was cooked I never really looked for organic corn. Maybe I have an issue with a strand of DNA in the GMO corn?
I hadn't even thought of the corn being for the pain. Thanks!
And everyone ... thanks for the support. I guess I really just need to move on. I am always hard on myself and do things all or nothing, I will try to be more positive!
09-21-2011, 02:03 PM
yes to pineapple it is suppose to help with pain and inflammation . i would add it to ur daily smoothies with a small chunk of gingeroot as well . my mom always put those two together and it really gives it a great flavor .
09-24-2011, 05:24 PM
haven't read the entire thread but...
water fasting greatly reduces inflammation. ;)
09-24-2011, 06:41 PM
I concur with pineapple...legitimate pain killer.
Also, just read this on wikipedia's celiac page:
In the United States, the FDA issued regulations in 2007 limiting the use of "gluten-free" in food products to those with less than 20 ppm of gluten. The current international Codex Alimentarius standard allows for 20 ppm of gluten in so-called "gluten-free" foods. Gluten-free products are usually more expensive and harder to find than common gluten-containing foods. Since ready-made products often contain traces of gluten, some coeliacs may find it necessary to cook from scratch.[
10-12-2011, 07:25 AM
I know a great inflammation reducer- relaxation. Literally. Stress increases inflammation. Do a cost benefit analysis. The stress from being so rigid is pumping lots of cortisol as well as other stress hormones into your system which have a toxic effect on every organ in your body including your brain. Spend a little time researching that and you will find it is better to indulge in a little vegan pizza once in a blue moon than to drive yourself crazy about it. If anything, now you are compounding the effects of the cooked food. Stress stress can cause migraines, lowered immune system, among so many other things. Balance.
Also, If your daughter caves, will you get angry at her and call her stupid? Probably not. Don't you deserve a little of that forgiveness and understanding too? We are not perfect beings and holding ourselves to that standard is unfair and extremely toxic.
I doubt anyone on this forum is here to judge so we wont beat you up. I promise.
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