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Pop Tart
08-03-2011, 08:27 PM
Does anyone know if you can substitue Kelp with E3Live?
I really don't like eating nori or any other kind of seaweed but I do take Kelp tablets.
I also think I have a thyroid issue and am hoping that some kelp will help me. I just purchased some E3Live to give it a try(plug my nose when I have it) and was wondering if anyone knows if it is a suitable replacement for kelp?
Thank you!
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-03-2011, 09:25 PM
Does anyone know if you can substitue Kelp with E3Live?
I really don't like eating nori or any other kind of seaweed but I do take Kelp tablets.
I also think I have a thyroid issue and am hoping that some kelp will help me. I just purchased some E3Live to give it a try(plug my nose when I have it) and was wondering if anyone knows if it is a suitable replacement for kelp?
Thank you!
Clinical research at HHI has shown that E3Live is far better than Kelp, and l agree, it's brilliant. lt is such an amazing food that it actually has the ability to heal chromosome and DNA damage. We all have weaknesses in our DNA due to genetics, unhealthy living, GM foods etc, but the E3Live actually corrects these damages and changes you as a person...it makes a new improved you.
See this clip (31 seconds - 1:31 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MgFOs5G8Sc&feature=related
and this:
“For the first three years I actually thought it was the trace minerals and the minerals that were in it that are unique to that lake. It is a volcanic ash lake and around it was a very active volcanic mountain. At the bottom of that lake, was laid about 8 to 10 feet of sedimentation. To top it all off, when you hear Oregon, you think rain. In this part of Oregon it hardly ever rains. It’s sunny practically every day. With this heating sunlight, the phytochemical process that goes on there is unique to any place else in the world. So now, at first, I thought this is what it was. It was the mineralization. Now, listen carefully, what I’m going to say is the most important thing I’ll probably talk to you on today. I have files of guests who have come here over the last 40 to 50 years- blood tests and history are there. Now, as a scientist, the one thing that I was sure of is that constitutions never change. A constitution is really the state of physiological health that a person is born with, that literally comes down from ancestry, grandparents, parents, etc. Now, one can have a bad or a weak constitution as do most people below 80 in our culture. Almost everyone listening today below 80 has a weak constitution. Living an impeccable lifestyle, eating well, having positive attitudes, exercising and living a healthy lifestyle will create longevity. But, we thought, gee, you can never change the constitution. Having a weak constitution, if you can picture it, it’s like pouring cement but not putting enough water or putting too much water in it and it’s the foundation of your house and you’re going to have cracks and crevices and holes in it. Now, what I started to see after three years of observation and blood profiles is that constitutional states started to get strong and healthy. Now, this blew my mind because I had to speak to 20 different scientists I knew who are much brighter and wiser than I on the subject and all of them basically said it’s impossible and by the end all 20, along with me, realized that this is what was happening. You are actually, by taking this algae, filling up the foundation of who you are physiologically, as well as your health, your neurological system, your organ system, the blood, everything that has to do with you as a physical being with strength. So now, if you have a strong constitution with an impeccable life style, guess what? You will not only have a long healthy life, you will have a longer, higher quality and a much healthier life and be fighting off the aging process
So yes, if E3Live improves DNA then it should be a great replacement for Kelp. lt also has all the minerals including iodine, + it is 97% absorbable so only a small amount of the concentrate will make a difference.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-03-2011, 09:34 PM
Another problem with Kelp is that is a highly concentrated acid food and is not the most balanced nutritionally. People are often not eating enough alkaline foods, so eating kelp may not be the best thing to do. lt's far better to do alittle bit of kelp and splash out on the E3Live.
l have a high green diet but l still only have 2 teaspoons of kelp powder a day. l also have 20 chlorella tablets (it's a food) and 2 - 3 tablespoons of E3Live. Those comncentrated little powerhouses set me up incredibly well for the day, and when combined with grass and sprouts and the semi regular weeds l get a diet that is unsurpassed in nutrition and health building.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-03-2011, 11:38 PM
More from Dr Brian Clements. Blue-green and green algae are the most highly recommended and effective supplements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzkacTOpDo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
My words
Blue-green algae to minimize stress and maximise enjoyment of life, and for DNA repair + a good nutritional supplement and alkalizer.
Chlorella for a brilliant heavy metal detoxer (possibly the best there is), DNA repairer and great nutritional supplement for vegans and people in general.
Another good supplement is digestive enzymes (essential, even if you are 100% raw).
Why do we need digestive enzymes? l think it is because we have had our ancestors abuse their diet by eating cooked food. One scientist said that thousands of years ago we would have had enough enzymes in us to digest food for 200 years, but these days digestive problems are ubiquitous. The more each generation continues to eat a majority of their food as cooked, and the more chemicals we comsume and the more GM foods we eat etc, the weaker our constitutions will become, that's why people have so many issues now...the body has changed so much. Most of us can't even make B12 anymore because of intestinal changes. We are not who we were originally designed to be because of DNA damages/changes. lt is even being said that many children born today are not expected to outlive their parents. lt's all debatable and interesting stuff, but the main point is that we can't eat originally what was intended for us to eat because our bodies are no longer the same as what our ancestors were, that's why we now need algae, digestive pills etc....simple fruit and vegies will not cut it anymore because the body has changed so much that greater power-foods are required.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 02:21 AM
Does anyone know if you can substitue Kelp with E3Live?
I really don't like eating nori or any other kind of seaweed but I do take Kelp tablets.
I also think I have a thyroid issue and am hoping that some kelp will help me. I just purchased some E3Live to give it a try(plug my nose when I have it) and was wondering if anyone knows if it is a suitable replacement for kelp?
Thank you!
Something that will be worth listening to. The solution is not always a simple one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWfRT2CVROs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 02:29 AM
Another good supplement is digestive enzymes (essential, even if you are 100% raw).
Why is this essential? If our digestive system is good there is no need to pour money down our throats.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 03:40 AM
Why is this essential? If our digestive system is good there is no need to pour money down our throats.
Because doctors at HHI have observed that most if not all people need help digesting food. HHI don't go to all the trouble doing research and having special supplements made just to make money, they go to the trouble of doing R&D on special supplements because they directly see all the people with digestive disorders and make the very best supplements made by the very brightest scientists to overcome the common digestive disorders.
Another very important reason is this: observation in patients at HHI has also shown an almost instantaneous electromagnetic frequency in and around the cells. This is important to protect the cells against free radical damage which helps keep bodies in better condition (keeps them younger).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--fqoI6Y8A&feature=autoplay&list=UL1qYOom07GSY&index=21&playnext=14
There are other references which talk about this but l can't find them right now. Anyway, raw food isn't so easily digestable, there's agood reason for this.
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 03:51 AM
does HHI research healthy people or only people who go to them after the conventional methods have failed them? If it makes sick people better then fabulous but that doesn't mean healthy people should take these things.
If the human race is not capable of digesting food that nature provides for us without assistance from pills and potions then the sooner extinction is brought upon us the better.
Something I find a little alarming in the raw community is the sheer number of people who seem to enjoy poor health. I realise that the figures are slewed because raw does attract people who are sick and looking for answers but it is possible for people on a raw food diet to actually be healthy with few or no illnesses or syndromes and it seems to me that too often sickness is perceived where none exists.
Sometimes tiredness is just tiredness - not mercury poisoning or systemic candida or [pick a condition from the long list for which tiredness is a symptom].
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 04:43 AM
does HHI research healthy people or only people who go to them after the conventional methods have failed them? If it makes sick people better then fabulous but that doesn't mean healthy people should take these things.
They research both healthy and unhealthy people.
If the human race is not capable of digesting food that nature provides for us without assistance from pills and potions then the sooner extinction is brought upon us the better.
The human race is no longer capable of digesting natural foods for a variety of reasons, it once never used to be like that. HHI have even discovered that most of the 100,000+ people that doctors/scientists have tested have pancreas disorders, that's why they say to eat very little fruit because the human body can no longer digest most of the natural sugars (l agree, fruit makes me tired...doesn't power me much). The modern day human body is a mess, that's why we need blue-green and green algae to help repair some of the damage we and our ancestors have caused to our genetic blue print. This is why l love HHI, they have observed the health problems with close to 250,000 over 54 years and have learned over that time how to deal with these problems...they are not all theory like most health professionals, they are all practise and don't speak through their hat.
Something I find a little alarming in the raw community is the sheer number of people who seem to enjoy poor health.
lt doesn't surprise me. Many raw fooders follow raw guru's who have no idea what they are talking about (too many guru's are all theory and are not based in reality). Many of the raw food books are outdated and don't deal with the modern day health issues. l think most have no idea....as Brian Clement says, they go against what modern science is saying, they are all theory.
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 05:46 AM
The human race is no longer capable of digesting natural foods for a variety of reasons, it once never used to be like that.
So what are we all doing eating a raw diet then? Why bother with a natural diet? We might as well just eat rubbish and get life over with as soon as possible - but hang on. I FEEL better when I eat a raw diet. I don't have digestion problems. My skin is healthier. My mind is healthier. Everything is better when I eat a raw diet.
I am my own guru. I do what feels good for me. I don't care to live forever or reverse grey hair etc. I just want to feel well and live my life until it is my time to stop living my life.
This forum is about one specific raw path - Alissa's method as set out in Living on Live Food. It is not the HHI appreciation society forum (though I am certainly not saying they are unworthy) and you are coming very close to saying that Alissa's method is hogwash which would be most foolish I think.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 06:49 AM
Another reason why women can have thyroid issues: Chemicals in environment, polyestor clothing, bad foods etc. So yes, clothes are a problem also, and l believe Brian has written a book that talks about how synthetic clothing causes cancer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUG2hz2ArjQ&feature=autoplay&list=UL1qYOom07GSY&index=55&playnext=9
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 07:04 AM
So what are we all doing eating a raw diet then?
People eat a raw food diet because they read and buy into all the hype of salesmen and conmen that promise that life will be amazing when you eat all raw. Then before too long nearly every single one of these people wake up and realises that the gurus were telling lies and go back to their original diet of eating cooked food. Why do you think there are very few people who have been 100% raw in the long term (10 years or more)? lt's because the raw food diet wasn't working for them or wasn't worth doing for the long term. lf it was so great and people were feeling amazing, then why would people go back to cooked food? A raw food diet can work and do amazing things if it is done well, the problem is that not many do it well.
I am my own guru. I do what feels good for me.
Lots of people feel this way, even the 100% fruitarians. *cheeky wink*
This forum is about one specific raw path - Alissa's method as set out in Living on Live Food. It is not the HHI appreciation society forum (though I am certainly not saying they are unworthy) and you are coming very close to saying that Alissa's method is hogwash which would be most foolish I think.
Ouch Mystic Tree, that really hurt.
l definitely need to talk about my views more on my website, l do feel restricted talking about things on forums that aren't mine. l mainly post here to give a different view on health foods (an uncommon voice), but maybe l shouldn't be doing that here. lf Aleesha pulls me up for it l will exit the forum. l only try and provide interesting reading, but it's probably better for my own site. Still...this forum is good because it stimulates ideas for things l want to talk about and bring to people's attention, and sometimes l learn cool stuff here as well. But yeah, forums are not really my thing...too many restrictions.
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 07:29 AM
People eat a raw food diet because they read and buy into all the hype of salesmen and conmen that promise that life will be amazing when you eat all raw. Then before too long nearly every single one of these people wake up and realises that the gurus were telling lies and go back to their original diet of eating cooked food. Why do you think there are very few people who have been 100% raw in the long term (10 years or more)? lt's because the raw food diet wasn't working for them or wasn't worth doing for the long term. lf it was so great and people were feeling amazing, then why would people go back to cooked food?
So you are not expecting to succeed with your raw food lifestyle? Your diet is more restrictive and arduous than most.
Lots of people feel this way, even the 100% fruitarians. *cheeky wink*
I don't think that makes them wrong.
Ouch Mystic Tree, that really hurt.
l definitely need to talk about my views more on my website, l do feel restricted talking about things on forums that aren't mine. l mainly post here to give a different view on health foods (an uncommon voice), but maybe l shouldn't be doing that here. lf Aleesha pulls me up for it l will exit the forum. l only try and provide interesting reading, but it's probably better for my own site. Still...this forum is good because it stimulates ideas for things l want to talk about and bring to people's attention, and sometimes l learn cool stuff here as well. But yeah, forums are not really my thing...too many restrictions.
This forum isn't really about health foods although it is very interesting to hear what everyone is doing and to compare notes.
I don't subscribe to the view that humans can no longer digest natural foods. Some, it would appear certainly have significant digestive issues but others do not. Anything that helps those with problems is great but those without problems who are eating a healthy diet needn't feel that they must take the supplements which help those with weak digestion. It isn't as straight forward as one-pill-suits-all.
One of the most significant issues in digestion would appear to be the level of stomach acid in the stomach. It is responsible for direct breakdown of stomach contents but also triggers digestive enzymes and peristalsis to name just two things and is key to killing bacteria which we eat in the course of consuming food.
If your stomach acid is not present at appropriate levels then this causes knock-on effects right down the digestion line.
Prolonged use of indigestion medicines is just one thing that will make things worse in the long term and it is often a vicious downward spiral when people start taking these things because the more they take the more they make the problem worse. I have never taken any form of over-the-counter antacid or any home-made antacid either.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 08:18 AM
So you are not expecting to succeed with your raw food lifestyle? Your diet is more restrictive and arduous than most.
l do expect to succeed because my diet is carefully thought out, has maximum nutrition possible, is perfect for modern day living and l listen to my body. Sure everyone listens to their body, but do they have the other three factors?
l don't agree that my diet is more restrictive than most. l think it is the opposite because it has the most nutrition, and the concentrated nutrients are predigested, and the fiber is of the highest order (nice and soft as opposed to hard vegie fiber that is taxing and non-nutritious to the body) and the food is as fresh as humanly possible, + it contains many water based foods that are essential in the modern age.
l call restrictive: eating course un-nutritious fibers (vegetables), high sugar foods like fruit, non fresh foods (store bought or farmers markets), and eating middle of the road problematic foods like fruit and vegies and unsprouted nuts/seeds.
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 08:21 AM
I meant restrictive in terms of the things you choose not to eat.
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-04-2011, 09:12 AM
I meant restrictive in terms of the things you choose not to eat.
l only choose to exclude the things that aren't worthwhile. :hug Never been able to see the worth of vegies, they aren't natural. Vegies are silly. * wink*
MysticTree
08-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Of course veggies are natural. Whether you choose to think they have value is another matter.
manker
08-06-2011, 12:32 PM
I was finally convinced to buy some e3live, the powder I bought also has other blue green algaes and red algae (anyone know the benefits? Never heard of it) so I mixed it with water yesterday but it was kinda not great tasting. I was just curious what you guys put your supplement stuff in? Thanks
The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-06-2011, 01:12 PM
I was just curious what you guys put your supplement stuff in? Thanks
Just put it in filtered energised water. l have it straight after a wheatgrass juice so the vitamin C will maximise absorption of the E3. lt's too good and expensive to blend with other foods.
E3 rocks!
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