Can you ever eat too much dried fruit?

[Kindred]

Whats the difference between dried fruit and hydrated fruit? I know its fruit that has had most of the moister taken out but does anything else change? Lets say I have a prune which is a dried plum and a glass of water would consuming both equal a hydrated plum?

[journeyman]

I feel bad after too much dried fruit. Soaking it and drinking water with it helps but it's not as good as having the whole fruit. Dried fruits can also be bad for teeth.

I only eat them in a pinch usually when I'm away from home.

[kevin1986]

YES! I ate a whole bowl of dried apricots today,and ive been going to the bathroom off and on for 5 hours. Too much fiber(didnt think about it)

[Revvell]

Operative words here are "too much"... so, the answer would be yes. If you've eaten too much of anything then you've eaten too much.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

According to the doctors and scientists who have studied over 100,000 patients at HHI, most people have poor pancreatic function due to their parents/grandparents eating refined sugars and heavily sugared foods (nearly all processed foods these days) and themselves indulging in high sugar foods. Not many poeple in modern day society can handle much sugary food because it overloads their pancreas and they get sick. So NO, sweet fruits are probably best avoided and Dr Clement goes as far to say that dry fruit should be avoided completely. Our constitutions are getting weaker as our environment gets more toxic and our food gets more refined and bodies can no longer handle what they used to 100 years ago.

[MysticTree]

According to the doctors and scientists who have studied over 100,000 patients at HHI, most people have poor pancreatic function due to their parents/grandparents eating refined sugars and heavily sugared foods (nearly all processed foods these days) and themselves indulging in high sugar foods. Not many poeple in modern day society can handle much sugary food because it overloads their pancreas and they get sick. So NO, sweet fruits are probably best avoided and Dr Clement goes as far to say that dry fruit should be avoided completely.

is that 100,000 patients or people? Cos it does make a difference.

5% of people in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. There is a further 1% suspected undiagnosed. Now whilst there will be an ongoing and worsening problem with people losing pancreatic function if the standard diet continues to be as bad as it is, I really don't think that we are in a situation nearly as bad as your post suggests.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

is that 100,000 patients or people? Cos it does make a difference.
Patients. Most of them have poor pancreas function. We are not as healthy as we think we are.


Now whilst there will be an ongoing and worsening problem with people losing pancreatic function if the standard diet continues to be as bad as it is, I really don't think that we are in a situation nearly as bad as your post suggests.
l hope you are right, but Dr Clements isn't near as optimistic....probably because he's seen more than us and has a good reason to be so alarming.

[MysticTree]

Patients. Most of them have poor pancreas function. We are not as healthy as we think we are.


l hope you are right, but Dr Clements isn't near as optimistic....probably because he's seen more than us and has a good reason to be so alarming.

his pool of examples are already sick though. I would like to know what figures are on a large sample of people who aren't already seeking help for health problems.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

his pool of examples are already sick though. I would like to know what figures are on a large sample of people who aren't already seeking help for health problems.

Not true. 50% of his patients are sick and the other 50% are so called healthy folks seeking health perfection. He has many athletes who come to his institution as well. As he has said, none of us are really as healthy as we think we are. lt makes sense, if people aren't eating whole foods free of chemicals and lots of greens and living away from pollution (impossible), then naturally DNA will get weaker with each generation.

[Revvell]

All I can say is, I've been eating sweet, juicy fruits in season for the last 62 years and, doing o.k! I eat dried fruit on occasion, keep 'em in my kit for when I'm out on patrol for 8 hours ... and, I drink a lot of water when I do eat them.

[MysticTree]

All I can say is, I've been eating sweet, juicy fruits in season for the last 62 years and, doing o.k! I eat dried fruit on occasion, keep 'em in my kit for when I'm out on patrol for 8 hours ... and, I drink a lot of water when I do eat them.
me too although for 40 years here and we like most animals that eat fruit and veg choose sweet over not sweet!

[RawnieColeman]

Perhaps because most enzymes are destroyed at 107 degrees Fahrenheit, and most dehydrators work at 120 F at the very least. At this point, it's not fully raw anymore.

[MysticTree]

Perhaps because most enzymes are destroyed at 107 degrees Fahrenheit, and most dehydrators work at 120 F at the very least. At this point, it's not fully raw anymore.

Raw foodists use dehydrators that operate at lower temperatures but much dried fruit that is commercially dried is not raw and has all manner of things added that one doesn't want to eat.

[Adam4man]

Can anyone give me a link to the study with Brian Clemente? or an interview where he discusses dried fruit? this is very discouraging to me as I have always thought dried fruit was fine to eat!

[MysticTree]

Can anyone give me a link to the study with Brian Clemente? or an interview where he discusses dried fruit? this is very discouraging to me as I have always thought dried fruit was fine to eat!

I have repeatedly asked to see the results of Clement's studies.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Can anyone give me a link to the study with Brian Clemente? or an interview where he discusses dried fruit? this is very discouraging to me as I have always thought dried fruit was fine to eat!
l'll try and find the interviews later, there are a bunch of them. With the dried fruit, l think it was both HHI research and outside research.

As to Brian linking the studies, it makes it difficult to do it because he reads studies and medical journals 3 or more hours a day, but he will memorise the facts of the study and summerise them and provide a basic link to where he found it....it's the most practical way he can do it with the time restaints he has. He is busy enough running HHI, writing, as well as travelling, exercising and doing other things as well. He keeps things simple so he doesn't have to organise 10,000+ pages of material each year. He gives a basic source of things, so it is up to the individual to spend hours looking up the reference.

Brian isn't in the habit of making stuff up or forming theories, his work is slways grounded in scientific fact. That's what sets him apart from almost everyone else.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

All I can say is, I've been eating sweet, juicy fruits in season for the last 62 years and, doing o.k! .
That's what most people say. lt's human nature. Then again, maybe you are one of the exceptions.

[MysticTree]

but he will memorise the facts of the study and summerise them and provide a basic link to where he found it....

Not asking about the studies of others. Asking about the studies of Clement.

[MysticTree]

That's what most people say. lt's human nature. Then again, maybe you are one of the exceptions.
or one of the majority

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

or one of the majority

Brian wouldn't be making it out to be such a problem if it was the majority. Pancreatic disfunction is quite wide spead according to all the thousands of people he has had tested at his institute.

[MysticTree]

Brian wouldn't be making it out to be such a problem if it was the majority. Pancreatic disfunction is quite wide spead according to all the thousands of people he has had tested at his institute.

but he has only tested 1000's. There are probably millions who have no problems.

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem for a lot of people but I haven't seen evidence that this is the cataclysmic issue you are saying it is.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

but he has only tested 1000's. There are probably millions who have no problems.

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem for a lot of people but I haven't seen evidence that this is the cataclysmic issue you are saying it is.

Maybe all the people who he has tested (possibly 100,000+) were the exception. Maybe Dr Brian and his scientists are big fat liars. Maybe the studies about pancreatic disfunction are all made up too (made up by the folks who hate fruit). Maybe you are right and Dr Brian and his croonies are completely wrong. *wink*

[MysticTree]

Maybe all the people who he has tested (possibly 100,000+) were the exception. Maybe Dr Brian and his scientists are big fat liars. Maybe the studies about pancreatic disfunction are all made up too (made up by the folks who hate fruit). Maybe you are right and Dr Brian and his croonies are completely wrong. *wink*
Maybe ... there are more than a fair few implying that.

By the way ... why is it not possible to read these studies and view the data for Clement's studies? Or are you actually saying that he hasn't carried out any studies and that when you say study you mean read the stuff he reads?

One possible cause for a high number of HHI "patients" having a problem with their pancreatic function could be as simple as them avoiding salt. Salt is one of the things that triggers the pancreas to function - indirectly through the production of HCL in the stomach. Those with a predisposition to go to a place such as the HHI are far more likely to be people who do not add salt to anything.

Another thing that factors with this is that protein from meats and eggs also increases HCL production which triggers the pancreas to function. Raw vegans don't eat the same amounts (or types) of proteins - obviously.

It is never as simple as A+B=C

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Maybe ... there are more than a fair few implying that.

By the way ... why is it not possible to read these studies and view the data for Clement's studies? Or are you actually saying that he hasn't carried out any studies and that when you say study you mean read the stuff he reads?

One possible cause for a high number of HHI "patients" having a problem with their pancreatic function could be as simple as them avoiding salt. Salt is one of the things that triggers the pancreas to function - indirectly through the production of HCL in the stomach. Those with a predisposition to go to a place such as the HHI are far more likely to be people who do not add salt to anything.

Another thing that factors with this is that protein from meats and eggs also increases HCL production which triggers the pancreas to function. Raw vegans don't eat the same amounts (or types) of proteins - obviously.

It is never as simple as A+B=C

General comment
HHI is a not for profit organisation and will NEVER ever be funded by government, but l will mention to them that people would like some published studies because they are in the best position in the world to have studies and observations made over 55 years published. l should even mention that l am willing to meet with them and help them find some financial backing so they can employ the right people to document Dr Brain's clinical research properly and actually publish it. They are so busy saving lives and doing research that they are neglecting the boring side of the business...documenting stuff so all people can be convinced.

Back to the question
Let me put my thinking cap on and l will come up with some intelligent questions to ask the good folks of HHI. l will post this link to Dr Brian and say "if you have done the proper clinical research Dr Brian, lets present the facts and silence these fruit doubters once and for all. Carn Dr Brian, lets crack some heads man".

[MysticTree]

not for profit organisation

This doesn't mean that people can't get very rich working for them - unless they draw no salary which I'm sure no-one would suggest any hard working person should do. People mistake what not for profit means and equate it with frugality.

It would make sense to publish these clinical studies if they exist. They are merely anecdotal at present and not publishing them does little for the credibility of the HHI.