Raw Food Diet & Master Cleanse Combo

[Eatrawordie]

JUST ADDED: I've started the Master Cleanse. I'm on my second day. It's going well so far. I actually like the lemonade drink a lot!

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Hey Guys,

I started doing Sea Salt Water Flushes and it's going great. I'm passing a good amount of parasites/liver flukes. Now i'm thinking of doing the Master Cleanse. The only thing is I have to eat, I cannot starve myself for 10 days to a month. It's just not practical plus I don't want to lose any weight, I like my figure how it is. So I'm wondering if anyone has done the Master Cleanse whilst still eating their fruits, greens and vegetables with good results?

The only thing i'm doing is reducing my intake slightly by skipping lunch. I have a grapefruit 3 hours after the flush as my breakfast. Sometimes I do have some raisins, my body feels like it just needs them/the sugar.

I'm already feeling the affects of the Sea Salt Flush. I'm feeling fatigue, my right bicep started to really hurt today. I'm breaking out a tiny bit on my face. I'm finally feeling detox symptoms which I never even felt on the Raw Food diet.

Anyway i'm curious to hear peoples experiences

Thanks

[Amii]

A few things to bear in mind:

- The master cleanse is not "starving" yourself. You can still be consuming up to 1600 calories if you drink enough of the lemonade and maple syrup.
- If you drink enough you will lose minimal weight.
- The master cleanse doesn't include fruit or vegetables, or anything solid, so it's impossible to do the cleanse and eat at the same time.

[Eatrawordie]

A few things to bear in mind:

- The master cleanse is not "starving" yourself. You can still be consuming up to 1600 calories if you drink enough of the lemonade and maple syrup.
- If you drink enough you will lose minimal weight.
- The master cleanse doesn't include fruit or vegetables, or anything solid, so it's impossible to do the cleanse and eat at the same time.


I read that Beyonce did the cleanse whilst eating vegetables and even though it was for weight loss she still achieved something.

[MysticTree]

I read that Beyonce did the cleanse whilst eating vegetables and even though it was for weight loss she still achieved something.

What was it she achieved ... apart from weight loss?

It seems to me that you can do what it is that Beyonce did but it won't make it a cleanse, it will make it something else. Not necessarily bad but not a cleanse.

[DebB]

For what it's worth - I did the MC for 8 days and did not lose any weight. *Ü*

[CathyA.]

I've done the mc several times. If you want to do the mc do it. If you want to eat food and drink the lemonaide then do that. It is up to you. The lemonaide is good for you. It is cleansing and a great addition to any diet.

[therealashland]

sounds like overkill to me, pick one...

[Amii]

I read that Beyonce did the cleanse whilst eating vegetables and even though it was for weight loss she still achieved something.

Well firstly, no one is really certain exactly what Beyonce did on the cleanse, and lots of sites report the story to be differently. What seems to be a constant is that Beyonce cleansed for 14 days and was told that she could eat fruit and vegetables if the hunger became too unbearable.

This suggestion is not part of the original master cleanse programme and most of us won't recommend this step.

The thing is, steps like this are suggested for people who aren't as willing to tough it out on the cleanse. Most advocates of the master cleanse will tell you that if you eat anything, even just a bite of an apple, you're interrupting the cleansing process, and therefore the results.

Basically, it comes down to this: you can eat veggies whilst drinking the lemonade if you really must, but you won't achieve anywhere near the level of results you would have done, and you also won't be actually fasting. There's also the fact that whilst you may think that you'll need the food now, after a few days on the cleanse you just won't want to eat it. The lemonade is more than satisfying :)

Good luck (and I recommend toughing it out and just having the lemonade).

[Arky]

Just out of curiosity, Amii, to what do you attribute your excretion of liver flukes? The salt water flushes alone..??

I'm intrigued.

Or did you mean to say that you've also been using anthelmintic herbs?

[Amii]

Just out of curiosity, Amii, to what do you attribute your excretion of liver flukes? The salt water flushes alone..??

I'm intrigued.

Or did you mean to say that you've also been using anthelmintic herbs?

Sorry, what do you mean?

[siennagray]

I believe Arky meant to direct that question to Eatrawordie.

[Eatrawordie]

I believe Arky meant to direct that question to Eatrawordie.

Yeah that's what I thought.

In regards to the Parasites; Before I started the Master Cleanse I was putting Cayenne Pepper in my water which started killing the parasites. I would see a lot of rolled up tomato skins, lots of white ball looking things (probably Candida) and some weird thread texture looking strings, which were like a dark pale yellow/brown colour. When I started the Sea Salt Flushes I noticed more and more Parasites of different colours, sizes and shapes and it really started to freak me out. I finally saw egg sacs which had that tomato skin texture and lots of other weird looking things. All I did was Cayenne Pepper Water and Sea Salt Flushes. I'm on Day 4 of the Master Cleanse and for the past 2 days i'm not seeing anymore stools, it's just watery bowel movements now but I keep thinking surely there's more stool and Parasites that needs to come out.

[MysticTree]

if you haven't put solids in. You won't get solids out except a few bits and pieces here and there.

[Eatrawordie]

if you haven't put solids in. You won't get solids out except a few bits and pieces here and there.

What about all the old fecal matter? When I would do colonics so much would come gushing out, old and new.

Another website (can't remember the name) was saying I should have 3-5 bowel movements per day.

[MysticTree]

What about all the old fecal matter? When I would do colonics so much would come gushing out, old and new.

Another website (can't remember the name) was saying I should have 3-5 bowel movements per day.

There is only so much old fecal matter that you can hang onto. Seriously, it's perfectly normal. The other stuff less so but don't sweat the normal stuff.

I would love to know why people who eat a raw food diet pursue this master cleanse. Only the lemons and the water are actually raw! I guess the chilli is raw if you carefully dehydrate your own chillis but I expect most don't.

[Eatrawordie]

There is only so much old fecal matter that you can hang onto. Seriously, it's perfectly normal. The other stuff less so but don't sweat the normal stuff.

I would love to know why people who eat a raw food diet pursue this master cleanse. Only the lemons and the water are actually raw! I guess the chilli is raw if you carefully dehydrate your own chillis but I expect most don't.

I don't see any harm with Grade B Maple Syrup, it has it's benefits.

Who says everyone is exactly 100% raw? Not everyone chooses to be. I'm probably 90% raw. Last month I had a falafel with my salad. I feel like the main important thing is to be at least 70% raw, cut out dairy, unnecessary hydrogenate oils, gluten, refined sugars and meat.

I don't know anyone that has been 100% raw for more than 30 years. Even most Raw Food chefs aren't 100% raw. Jennifer Cornbleet isn't, the creator of Laughing Giraffe isn't and I don't think HailMerry is either and they are creating raw food products for us. HailMerry even uses Maple Syrup.

[MysticTree]

My point is that the master cleanse isn't even 50% raw. It's mostly not raw, depending on how you work out the percentages. When we have a wealth of raw foods to choose from why choose processed?

[Eatrawordie]

My point is that the master cleanse isn't even 50% raw. It's mostly not raw, depending on how you work out the percentages. When we have a wealth of raw foods to choose from why choose processed?

How did you work that one out? Water is the biggest percentage. It's really not that serious. It's doing more good than harm. It's still pretty much organic.

Along with the raw food diet it's probably one of the best/most affect things I've ever done.

[MysticTree]

I don't count the water because it has no food value.

When you keep a food diary, you don't count water as food, you count it as water. It is essential and you need it regardless of whether you eat raw or not.

[Eatrawordie]

I don't count the water because it has no food value.

When you keep a food diary, you don't count water as food, you count it as water. It is essential and you need it regardless of whether you eat raw or not.

I'm not keeping a diary though.

[MysticTree]

I'm not keeping a diary though.

I didn't say you were. You said about water being raw, I was explaining why I didn't think it counted. It doesn't matter. Everyone does their own thing, I am just do not see the MC and a raw food diet in the same lifestyle.

[climbing]

I'd recommend starting with 3-4 day fasts on the master cleanse (or juice, I've done both) to work on detoxification. A healthy organic high raw diet will detox you also, but slower over time. It all depends on what your goals are and what you feel that your individual body needs to do. I've spent years working through detoxification methods. Done everything from those rip-off "detox" herbal kits, to humaworm, to liver flushing, to other bowel cleanses, to fasting.

Overall, fasting has provided me the most noticeable improvements. Drastic improvements in digestion, in my skin, in my mental function and overall feelings of well being. But I did a long, long road before I got there. I suspect had I fasted in the beginning, it would have been healing crisis overload, for me.

But that's just me. I was hitting rock off tin foil in crackhouses at age 19, followed by at least 5 years of alcoholism, binge drinking, prescription pills, ecstasy and methamphetamine abuse.... the list goes on. I was also raised on heavily fluoridated drinking water which I suspect messed me up quite a bit. Not everyone is going to be as toxic as I was.

One thing I can say for sure about the master cleanse and other fasts... if you aren't ready, don't do it. It takes a lot of dedication and knowing what you're doing and WHY you're doing it. Otherwise it probably could end up a negative thing for you.

:) Hope that helps!

[CathyA.]

You can have lots of fecal elimination on the MC. Even without the addition of new food. I can tell you from first hand experience as I have done the MC.

[Sweat.Equity]

Hi All,
I am beginning my cleanse in an effort to "reboot" my body before retuning to raw foods. I cannot seem to figure out how often I should use the SWF. Do I do it daily before the Lemonade, or do I just use it on the first day? Also, do I use the Smooth Move nightly?
Please Advise.
S.E.

[MysticTree]

Hi All,
I am beginning my cleanse in an effort to "reboot" my body before retuning to raw foods. I cannot seem to figure out how often I should use the SWF. Do I do it daily before the Lemonade, or do I just use it on the first day? Also, do I use the Smooth Move nightly?
Please Advise.
S.E.

How do you square the idea of raw with doing the master cleanse? Raw and MC always baffles me but more so in this case because you say you wish to use it to reboot your return to raw.

[Sweat.Equity]

Wow, I had a feeling that you would ask me to justify my reasons to you, and you did not disappoint me!
Sorry to baffle you, but my reasons, Dear woman, are my own.
While I could equally ask you why you take such an issue with this matter, I will not.
I am going to continue to seek an answer to my original question from anyone willing to share without judgement.
Have a lovely day!
S.E.

[DebB]

Hi All,
I am beginning my cleanse in an effort to "reboot" my body before retuning to raw foods. I cannot seem to figure out how often I should use the SWF. Do I do it daily before the Lemonade, or do I just use it on the first day? Also, do I use the Smooth Move nightly?
Please Advise.
S.E.

I've got Stanley Burroughs book and this is what he says on page 22. "It is quite advisable to take the herb laxative tea at night to loosen, then the salt water each morning to wash it out. If for some reason the salt water cannot be taken in the morning, then the herb laxative tea must be taken night and morning."

[Sweat.Equity]

Deb,
Thank you so much!

I've got Stanley Burroughs book and this is what he says on page 22. "It is quite advisable to take the herb laxative tea at night to loosen, then the salt water each morning to wash it out. If for some reason the salt water cannot be taken in the morning, then the herb laxative tea must be taken night and morning."

[MysticTree]

Wow, I had a feeling that you would ask me to justify my reasons to you, and you did not disappoint me!
Sorry to baffle you, but my reasons, Dear woman, are my own.
While I could equally ask you why you take such an issue with this matter, I will not.
I am going to continue to seek an answer to my original question from anyone willing to share without judgement.
Have a lovely day!
S.E.

There is no need to be so defensive. I truly want to understand how people sit the MC with raw when most of what is eaten isn't raw. If you can't explain then that is fine also; maybe someday someone will explain it to me.

[DebB]

Deb,
Thank you so much!

You're welcome Sweat.Equity - good luck on your cleanse. I made it 8 days ;)
(It was my first-ever attempt at anything like this)

[DebB]

There is no need to be so defensive. I truly want to understand how people sit the MC with raw when most of what is eaten isn't raw. If you can't explain then that is fine also; maybe someday someone will explain it to me.

Is it the maple syrup Georgina, as far as not being raw?

I didn't mind that it wasn't 'raw' - I just wanted to do it and I'll be honest, I was looking for a way to drop a few pounds. I didn't really know anything about detox. I know more now - if I were to do it again, I would have a much different attitude, etc. going into it.

[MysticTree]

Is it the maple syrup Georgina, as far as not being raw?

I didn't mind that it wasn't 'raw' - I just wanted to do it and I'll be honest, I was looking for a way to drop a few pounds. I didn't really know anything about detox. I know more now - if I were to do it again, I would have a much different attitude, etc. going into it.

It's mainly the maple syrup because of it not being raw. The same outcome could be achieved by using dates. There is nothing magic about maple syrup per se. It's included in the MC to give calorific value so raw dates would make the MC raw. Even better would be to sub the dried cayenne for a little juiced fresh cayenne. Then the whole thing is raw.

I have no idea whether the MC does what it is claimed to do but at least if it was raw it wouldn't matter so much if it didn't.

Thanks for answering my question Debs

[DebB]

I bet the dates would work nicely Georgina ~ I think I used less maple syrup than he called for, you just want it sweet enough to be palatable (or at least I did).

Now I know that lemons are top of the mountain as far as detoxifiers. Grapes being right up there too, if not 'the' best.

And I love that you called me Debs - that was one of the many nick-names my Dad used to call me :)

[MysticTree]

I bet the dates would work nicely Georgina ~ I think I used less maple syrup than he called for, you just want it sweet enough to be palatable (or at least I did).

Now I know that lemons are top of the mountain as far as detoxifiers. Grapes being right up there too, if not 'the' best.

And I love that you called me Debs - that was one of the many nick-names my Dad used to call me :)

I use more and more lemon in my juices. People screw their faces up but it tastes good to me.

I hadn't realised that I called you Debs - I'm glad it's ok :o)

[SunshineMN]

In the last 3 weeks or so we quit drinking ice tea. Now my SO juices a couple lemons, a couple slices of pineapple and a couple oranges and throws it in our filtered water in the fridge. We usually drink half a gallon a day if not a little more depending. We find it quite refreshing. :)

If you were using dates for the MC wouldn't you need to use only the soak water? or blend it with water then strain? I haven't completely looked into the MC but I've been thinking about reading up on it and trying it out.

[MysticTree]

If you were using dates for the MC wouldn't you need to use only the soak water? or blend it with water then strain? I haven't completely looked into the MC but I've been thinking about reading up on it and trying it out.

Yes, one of the two but the resultant concoction would at least be raw and it would not be difficult to make up.

[Leamur]

The maple syrup is selected for more reasons than for taste and calories. The Grade B maple syrup is the syrup collected at the end of the season (versus Grade A) and it contains more nutrition than Grade A syrup or honey, etc. Further, maple syrup is stable and it will not cause the lemonade to perish (the lemon also helps to stablize it). I have done the master cleanse many times while on a raw diet and I do not see a problem with using the maple syrup as the cooking of it does not change the molecular structure of the syrup nor does it kill the vitamins. If you are worried about it being 100% raw, I have used "Coconut Nectar" in place of the syrup which I believe may have a similar nutritional breakdown and it is 100% raw. I have gone back to using the syrup because it is less expensive and it tastes better. I also only use 1/2 the amount of syrup suggested.

[MysticTree]

you cannot produce maple syrup with out destroying nutrients. The whole premise of raw food is that cooking destroys nutrients. Maple syrup is not a wonder food. It's just cooked calories and a few minerals.

[AutumnBreezColordLeavz]

You are wanting the other food because some of your toxic cells want you to keep feeding them, they don't want you to reach the catabolic state that the cleanse is meant to do.

[Non]

cant one just use the coconut syrup? or date paste or smtg? Coconut syrup seems better.