Help! Extreme lower back pain.

[Beach27]

I have been on a raw food diet for 3 days. On the 2nd day at night I was hit with extreme lower back pain, maybe the kidneys? I am on the 4th day and it is still constant pain and seems to be getting worse. I can barely bend over without shooting pains down my legs. What is this and what can I do for relief?! I just want it to go away.

[T-Bird]

Just in case - see your doctor, right away.

[LaniB]

Shooting pain down your legs sounds like sciatica to me.

Not sure of the solution though - my sister has it very bad right now and physical therapy seems to be helping her. You might want to have it checked out in any case to rule out your kidneys.

[MysticTree]

I'd say sciatica. Kidneys are higher up. Gentle exercise and stretches help with mine when I get it and paying more especial care with my posture when sitting.

[Arky]

*IF* it turns out to be the kidneys, the doc may offer lithotripsy.

A great pain-reliever AND gradual solution for kidney stones is chanca-piedra tincture (e.g. tinyurl.com/3s4675s).


However, I agree with LaniB - the shooting pain down your legs sounds like sciatica to me, too.


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[Beach27]

So can all of this be brought on by starting the raw diet? I have not ever had this pain before.

[MysticTree]

I think it is most likely unrelated and just coincidental.

You say "The Raw Diet" but there are many ways of eating raw and you don't say exactly what you have been eating and drinking.

[EZ rider]

I've got one of these inversion tables and climb on it anytime I feel back discomfort.
It's like having a chiropractor at my home 24/7

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=2410461011

[canna]

Sounds very much like your Liver has received the new fresh load of living enzimes and has started to create a bile load.

Stand up look down at your right side pelvis area. Do you have a downward pointing swollen innertube bottom right of your belly button or maybe left? Does your Lower back feel hot and tingly, strange pain? Legs have any nerve shooting pain? Nausious after a orange juice? back of the knees achey? Is the sternum bone between your pecks painfull of pointing out? Feet hurt with lots of dry skin on the edges? Ridges in toenails or blackness on moon area working toward end of nail? any night sweats?

History of liver damage? Do you still own your gullbladder? Allergy Shots as a kid?

lmk


I have been on a raw food diet for 3 days. On the 2nd day at night I was hit with extreme lower back pain, maybe the kidneys? I am on the 4th day and it is still constant pain and seems to be getting worse. I can barely bend over without shooting pains down my legs. What is this and what can I do for relief?! I just want it to go away.

[Beach27]

Canna,

A lot of those symptoms you listed I was experiencing. The pain has subsided now. I still have pain during the night when I lay down, not as extreme, but enough to keep me awake for a few hours. Was what you were talking about my bodies natural response to my liver going through detox? I still have my gallbladder and I have never had allergy shots or liver problems. I am just trying to understand a little more about what my body is doing. I am new to eating this lifestyle of eating raw.

[Raw Angel Mom]

Maybe it is what people suggested but i am going to ask you. The day before your pain, did you lift something award? If you did, many times you won't have the pain until the next day. You could have a simple tare which is extremely painful.

Go get check out, this way, you will know that is going on and you will be in a better position to figure out the best treatment for you.

Hope you feel well soon!

[Arky]

Canna,

A lot of those symptoms you listed I was experiencing. The pain has subsided now. I still have pain during the night when I lay down, not as extreme, but enough to keep me awake for a few hours. Was what you were talking about my bodies natural response to my liver going through detox? I still have my gallbladder and I have never had allergy shots or liver problems. I am just trying to understand a little more about what my body is doing. I am new to eating this lifestyle of eating raw.


Canna made a really interesting point here, actually!

On that line of inquiry, I'll ask you a related question:

Do you ever experience pain in the region of the right shoulder blade?


Chanca piedra tincture (which, ironically, I mentioned in relation to possible kidney stones) is excellent for the gallbladder AND is known to be quite a powerful natural pain-killer at the same time. Whole World Botanicals do a great non-alcoholic tincture.

Taurine
Glycine
Lecithin

are also critically important for good bile flow.

Other substances such as herbal bitters, milk thistle and turmeric can also beneficial, but you'll find detailed discussion on such matter in existing threads, such as these:


http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=64426

http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=48992



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[streetsurfer]

It can take around a week for your kidneys to clean up an acidic event in your system. This could translate to pain in the region. Were you feeling acidic prior to the back pain?

[canna]

I had a massive bile load because I had cancer. Non Hodgkins that mastisised.
When I started Gerson Therapy (15 months) my wife upped my raw juice to between 14-16 - sixteen ounce juices per day because I was to be dead in August 2010 as they said I was terminal. We would start at 4am and finish around 11pm. Every three juices she would do a coffee enema on me to flush the bile from my gull liver area. When we could not keep on my bile load it would almost put me in a coma. The symptyms I listed are what I had as a very bad case, I have talked with hundreds of people with cancer now and its across the board usually and in men those symptems are usually scary close. I have had guys turn white when I asked them 20 questions like do you have pain here?

Basically if you start a raw food and heavy juice diet and elliminate the non whole food items and you start getting healing symptems quickly I have found you should have a strong liver. If it takes weeks or months like mine to really get going then you have a weak or non functioning liver.

Alissa Cohens diet is a carbon copy of how I would get a liver functioning again.

And I could not have done it also without Kumbacha Teas. We brew our own teas and our own ferminted foods like kim chi.



On the person with a shoulder pain make sure its not in your lymphnode areas and if not I would imagine your raw diet is making your liver hunt your body. It probably found some aspertain damage in your shoulders. Aspertain I have found really loves the upper shoulder areas and neck through talking with people with that.

My diet is 10 or more raw juices a day and 3 coffee enemas, I do those when I feel thee bile loading up. Usually by looking down and seeing the innertube I described.

If you have lived in the usa you have a liver that has seen stuff it should not have.

Know that. :) The reason her diet works is because of the liver.

Any questions on cancer or liver PLEASE ask.

I run a farm now. Stuff works go figure. :)

Canna,

A lot of those symptoms you listed I was experiencing. The pain has subsided now. I still have pain during the night when I lay down, not as extreme, but enough to keep me awake for a few hours. Was what you were talking about my bodies natural response to my liver going through detox? I still have my gallbladder and I have never had allergy shots or liver problems. I am just trying to understand a little more about what my body is doing. I am new to eating this lifestyle of eating raw.