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TimmyC
10-15-2005, 10:20 PM
I know there are a wide range of ages in this raw lifestyle.
My in-laws are here this weekend, and my FIL says that he's past the age where he can help himself. I'm having a difficult time telling him he's wrong. He's got high blood pressure, my MIL is just recently type 2 diabetic. They're around 63. I know if they ate better, their health would improve tremendously. Not only their health, but their weight as well.
If you're 60 or older and doing well on this lifestyle, or if you have similiar success stories out there regarding someone you know in that age range could you please share them with me so I can pass it along?
Thanks so much!
Tim
rawmomto8
10-15-2005, 10:38 PM
I hope you don't mind that I post an answer to you. I am new here. Just to give you some information; however, my mother and father both follow a high raw diet. I know this is not as optimal as complete raw, but they have both improved thier overall health tremendously. My father overcame adult onset diabetes and high blood pressure. My mother's thyroid medication was decreased and her cholesterol was lowered quite a bit. They do not have internet, but I know if they did my father would be hooked on this site!
Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but let your family know that it is never too late and that it does work! Oh, by the way, my mother is 61 and my father is 69.
Sarah
TimmyC
10-15-2005, 10:53 PM
Thankyou Rawmomto8,
This is exactly what I'm looking for. They talk in such terms as they only have 15 years left, and those types of things. I've read such miraculous things that if one just ate high to 100 % raw that these bad health things can go away, and many people would out live the "average" death age.
My grandma is 101, still living by herself for example. She was ver very active until her early 90's. She taught until she was in her mid 80's, and until recently (within the last year) she played bridge twice a week for the last 60 plus years.
My point, is that we could live longer by eating healthier, and not that by living longer are we just going to veg out, but rather live very healthy and fulfilling lifestyles.
Tim
Rawkinlocs
10-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Would they accept testimonies from people in their 50's? We have some 50-somethings here!
Also, again, I share the story of the 80-something year old grandmother who I spake with who is raw and her Rhematoid Arthritis was cured when she went raw.
I also had a neighbor down the street from me in Detroit who was in her 70's and was a raw vegan. She takes NO medication, has NO ailment, NO aches and pains and goes out for long walks as her exercise every day!
Don't forget Rev. Malkmus of Hallelujah Acres! Check out http://hacres.com
I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting...but someone will provide you with more I'm sure!
OH! And although these people are now deceased...they lived long full lives...
Ann Wigmore
Norman Walker
Paul Bragg
TimmyC
10-15-2005, 11:37 PM
I can use all the info I can get. 50s too. Excellent information.
I get the sense that they think they are doomed for lack of a better word. They don't have bad attitudes, rather they don't think anything can help them. I know they're far from it, and this lifestyle would be great for them. I'm still not going to push, rather present information for them to consider.
Thanks Rawkinlocs,
Tim
Rawkinlocs
10-15-2005, 11:42 PM
yeah, I don't think it's really ever too late. Even when conditions are too far gone (such as cancer that has just completely run rampant and taken completely over) the quality of life can most times be improved.
But I have a feeling that your FIL is no where near too far gone. I know that on the Hallelujah Acres site, they have a search feature where you can type in the name of a particular ailment, sickness or disease and read testimonies of healing from those things.
So, whatever is ailing him, type it in and see what you come up with! You're right not to push, but he needs to know that IF he wants to have improved health and healing, he CAN have it...that it's not too late, even at his age.
TimmyC
10-15-2005, 11:58 PM
Ok that helps a lot!!
You're right....BTW....For both of them they're not to far gone at all. Not even close. It's all in their mind. They'll change if they want to...it's all up to them. And if they did change they'd feel and look great!
Once again, thank you Rockinlocs,
Tim
Sharon in Colorado
10-16-2005, 12:10 AM
Although not raw, my in-laws started juicing daily and my father who had bad skin allergies, with extremely dry cracked hands went soft again.
I don't think it is so much the juicing as much as it's the lack of bad cooked food in their diet now.
rawpriestess
10-16-2005, 02:01 AM
Hi Tim,
I am 52, when I started raw this year, on Jan 19, I weighed 285 pounds at 5'3" and my blood preasure was 249 over 179, my resting pulse rate was 176, and I was sick and tired all the time, I went raw for 2 months without one cheat, I went down to 243 pounds, my blood preasure went to 146 over 76 and my resting pulse rate went down to 74 all in only 2 months with no medication what-so-ever.
I felt wonderful, I then ate some cooked and back and forthing it for a while.
Look at my pic here, now do I look 52? I don't think so, no one else does either.
Anyway, I feel great, I still weigh over 200 pounds, but I don't feel it, and I love eating raw foods.
There is no way that I will go back to cooked.
I take no medication, or vitamins, or anything like that. And I look and feel great.
It is never too late to live a pain free, healthy life.
sport
10-16-2005, 06:17 AM
I am 53 and feel terific. I am probably not a good example because I have either been vegeterean or vegan all my life and so was never sick anyway. My joints were beginning to feel stif before I want raw and I had some menopause symptoms (but not as much as most). These have both cleared up and I wake up in the morning with my joints as free and loose as when I went to bed. I honestly do not ever expect to be on medication for anything as long as I live (I do take my B12 though).
sweetgoddess
10-16-2005, 09:24 AM
Tim, you have got to check out Annette Larkins. She is a raw foodist who is 62 or 63. Just look at her!
http://www.annettelarkins.com/index.html
And Storm:
www.thegardendiet.com (http://www.thegardendiet.com) is in his 50's
Buddy
10-16-2005, 10:00 AM
"This is an exert from the upcoming book...." It is "The Live Food Factor" by Susan Schenck
In Februrary, 2002, Buddy and his wife Cherry went to Sedona, Arizona. They had been SAD (Standard American Diet) eaters all their lives. There was something about their last meal there, the chicken, that suddenly made them want to become vegetarians. When they returned to San Diego the next day, they ran into a friend. He told them he had been eating a raw vegan diet for a couple of months. They noted how radiant he looked and decided to go for this radical switch.
"Little did we know that our decision to become (raw) vegetarians would lead to vibrant health that we could have only dreamt about," writes Buddy in a page of the workbook of the workshop they now give. "During the first four months, Cherrie lost fifty pounds and I lost sixty pounds. Along with that, we both had what seemed like life- long health issues disappear. Cherrie had chronic head aches, high cholesterol, poor circulation, walked with a limp because of a pinched sciatica nerve, had constant back aches, couldn't eat anything without getting sick to the stomach, had high blood pressure, and much more. For me, I had high blood pressure, an irregular heartbeat, high cholesterol, and a high sugar count. My body hurt so much that I couldn't even tie my shoes without pain due to a pinched sciatica nerve. All of these symptoms disappeared like magic, without the help of any medication. It's just like Cherrie and I started a brand new life at the age of 55! We both feel incredible and are still amazed with our results. We were living with aches and pains that felt normal, or rather, a part of life. Once we became committed to eating living foods, we soon felt the blessing of living with healthy, ache-free bodies. From our experiences, we feel certain that we have found the fountain of youth, and we'd like to share our experiences and knowledge with you."
When I met Buddy and Cherrie for lunch, they went into more details. Cherrie had to take 10 to 12 aspirins a day for headaches before going raw. She had such poor circulation that her feet were purple! All this went away in a matter of weeks. They showed me the amazing "before" and "after" photos. The weight loss was incredible. They both are now slender, have a raw glow and exhibit radiant skin. Best of all they are bubbling with energy and enthusiasm.
They explained in more detail their raw journey. The first six months they went 100% raw. Then they switched to about 90% raw, and went back and forth between 100% and 90% three or four times. I asked them to describe the difference they experienced between being 90% and 100% raw. They said it was a huge difference. Although the 10% of cooked food they ate would have been considered healthful by most people (baked potatoes, garbanzo beans, Asian salad with noodles, pasteurized salad dressings), they would notice the aches and pains coming back (though not as severe). It would be harder to get up and go to work. More sleep was needed to detoxify that bit of cooked food. Cherrie would find herself getting up at night with stomach aches. Worse, perhaps, they lost the raw glow! "When I would look at myself in the mirror, I would see an old man!" exclaimed Buddy.
They both agreed that being 100% raw was easier than being 90-95% raw. The temptation to eat cooked food was now gone, since their determination to be 100% raw as of January 1, 2005. Now they could watch their children prepare and eat a lavish cooked Easter dinner and not be tempted. "Giving up cooked food is easier than giving up cigarettes," said Buddy, a former smoker who quit years before going raw. Cherrie even has to prepare cooked food as part of her work, but does not give in to the temptation to eat even a bite.
One of the best things about being 100% raw, they both agreed, was that the whole food addiction was gone from their psyche. When eating cooked food, they would often ponder about what they were going to eat, where they were going to eat, etc. Now they just eat very simply and barely even think about food. They desire less and less food and eat very little, occasionally dining at the local raw restaurant for some fancy gourmet food. "You get really free when you flop over to 100% raw," remarked Buddy. And they both need so little sleep: Cherrie sleeps only six hours a night, and Buddy sleeps only four to five hours a night!
Like many raw converts, they want to tell the world because they feel so fantastic at the age of 58. They devote much of their free time to giving workshops, teaching others why and how to make the switch to living foods.
GlimR
10-16-2005, 10:41 AM
Hi Tim~
My mother is 85. Several years ago she was on all kinds of meds, for irregular heartbeat, arthritis, fibromyalgia, etc.. she felt terrible all the time, no energy, depressed, not sleeping well. She came to visit me and read Sugar Blues...she went home and cut out all white sugar, flour, etc.. made a huge difference......stopped all meds and was feeling great. Now she is adding much more raw into her diet, is drinking green smoothies for breakfast and making almond milk w/ soaked nuts. She feels awesome.
I am so proud of her that at her age she is open to learning and making changes for her health and spirit. Your in-laws are young still and have a huge amount of life ahead. I am 48 and feel like I am at the beginning of one of the very best times in my life.
Autumn
10-16-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm 71. I think I look pretty good.
:D
Punky
10-16-2005, 01:06 PM
I'm 71. I think I look pretty good.
:D
I would never have guessed you were 71 Autumn! are you kidding?
wow!
Tim,
your in-laws are not to old to change the quality of their life!
they should not throw in the towel.
More like throw away the meds after they are raw for awhile ;)
Raw does the body good :D
Ariannah
10-16-2005, 01:12 PM
I'm 71. I think I look pretty good.
:D
Hahahaha, and I'm your age-mate ;)
Carlene
10-16-2005, 02:49 PM
Okay, those pictures and ages just don't match up. These are all recent pictures? Raw Priestess, I have seen this picture before and figured it was you in your 20's. Autum, I put you in your 30's, and rawandnatural well, I'm thinking late 20's. I am blown away.
Ariannah
10-16-2005, 03:12 PM
My head is swollen from that guess for me!! Late twenties!! I am 38, and will be 39 in May.
Ariannah - and the Avatar picture was taken a mere 2 weeks ago
levamssg
10-16-2005, 03:31 PM
I think it is awesome that you are taking the time to provide options for your in-laws, Tim. Even small changes in their diet will make a difference .... like juicing and cutting out the sugars, flours, etc. (as already mentioned). Once they start feeling a little better, that will jumpstart the though process as well. Then there is so stopping how good they will feel.
I've only been raw a little over a year and can't tell you how much better I feel .. skin is better, more energy, less aches and pains. I do look younger than folks think, but that's really not it so much. I have the energy to match!!
btw, I'm 56.
rawpriestess
10-16-2005, 04:17 PM
NOPE, that pic was taken just a couple of years ago on halloween, hense the blue lipstick, although I still use it for fun on occasion.
Dragggon
10-16-2005, 05:35 PM
Ok here you are I went into the photo albums and grabed a few photos i found to show her in her 20's ( damn where was I lol ) She is still that lovely wild sexy lady you see in the folloing pictures. The first one was taken in 1980 and the second one in 1977. And yes guys I am blessed she still dances but for only me now.
Blessings
Dragggon
sweetgoddess
10-16-2005, 05:44 PM
Back to the OP~Tim it looks like you have lots to share with your in-laws.
On the Today Show, Alissa said while serving a green drink, if you are going to make one change to your diet, this would be it! So, maybe you could make them a green smoothie while they are there. Banana, frozen strawberry or other berry and spinach is an easy one to give to SAD eaters and they always love it. It makes your cells tingly.
And if anything happens, do let us know!
Warmly~
Carmel
Jo-anne
10-16-2005, 05:56 PM
WOW.......Draggon, Rawpriestess is absolutely gorgeous!!! She was beautiful back in her 20's and still looks beautiful now........
Sharon in Colorado
10-16-2005, 06:34 PM
Oh wow guys, great pictures!
Terri!!! It is about time. I've been waiting over a year for a new pic of you! You look wonderful, even though you're kind of far away. All your hard work and determination has paid off!
RP - girlfriend, you've got it goin on! I've been wanting to take up belly dancing for some time now. Are you still practicing it?
Sharon in Colorado
10-16-2005, 06:36 PM
I'm 71. I think I look pretty good.
:D
Okay Autumn, you don't look a year over 60!!! You had me fooled! ;)
TimmyC
10-16-2005, 11:55 PM
Wow!! (BTW I'm 78 will be 79 in April....kidding I'm just kidding. Subtract 40 years and that's my age.) I just said that because Autumn had me fooled. I thought she was in her 30's.
Thankyou all for the fantastic posts. I'm blown away by some of them. I have a few responses I'll put in this one.
First however just wanted to let you know although FIL is not listening, MIL spent two hours with me talking about eating healthier. I said I can't push you or make you do anything, but rather share my experiences with you as they've been so positive, and I've seen/read other stories that are remarkable. I also said only you can make a committment inside you, and only you will know that it's really there. So I'm just feeding her bits of information here and there, but tonight was different, we connected!
Sharon: The skin thing is fantastic, shared that with MIL tonight.
RP: I've talked about you already, but will definitely share your story here that you've mentioned. Thanks so much! I'll also show them your pictures :).
Sport: Fantastic that you've had such a healthy life!! BTW, I did talk to them about the b-12. Is that in pill form that you take it?
SG: Annette Larkins blew me away! Totally amazing. Thank you for the link! Also good point on the green smoothies!
Buddy: Awesome! This will sure inspire my MIL, possibly FIL. Thanks so much. When is the book coming out?
GlimR: Perfect! Now this person can be an example for them to respect and follow! :) Thank you!
Autumn: You blew me away. Are you serious? I really had you in my mind at least at thirty something. Way to go if you are serious!! What an inspiration you are!
Punky: Thank you! I tried to get the across to my MIL tonight, and I think it was successful. Go raw, and throw away the meds. I'm tired of hearing the throwing in the towel thing from FIL. Getting old! :)
Rawandnatural: We're the same age! Thanks for your post. It made me laugh too.
Carlene: Way to call them on the carpet. If you wouldn't have we wouldn't have such great pictures of RP! :)
levamssg: What an inspiration you are! I'm glad you said that. I'm looking forward to feeling as good as you do after one year's time!
Draggon: Those pictures are just fantastic!
Jo-anne: Thanks for the post! You always have such positive things to say.
Ok, think I got everyone. Thank you so much for this helpful info, and a little laughter :).
Be good to yourself everyone!
Tim
Punky
10-17-2005, 07:55 AM
Punky: Thank you! I tried to get the across to my MIL tonight, and I think it was successful. Go raw, and throw away the meds. I'm tired of hearing the throwing in the towel thing from FIL. Getting old!
Tim, I just wanted to add (and I am sure you already realize this-but your inlaws are the ones that need to realize this).....
that high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes are manageable now with the meds, but if they are not pro-active in regaining their health and managing it better thru healthier lifestyles
(I know so many that *relie* just on meds and do not change their lifestyle)
that complications are sure to follow. I'm talking heart disease, strokes,
etc...I know this from personal experience with my own relatives.
My in-laws and father fall into this bunch that threw in the towel, and
so their quality of life is so much worse than the initial high blood pressure.
Diabetes II is very complicated and serious disease...my dad has this and heart disease now. Ughh.
You are in the right place encouraging them to be more pro-active.
I wish you success at being an inspiration to your in-laws.
And also don't beat yourself up if they choose not to step up.
I've tried so hard with my in-laws...and I would get so upset when I see them eat so SAD in there condition, but I had to let go of my frustration with them and let them choose their own path no matter how much it hurt me to see them do this to themselves...I even bought my MIL Alissa's book
(she showed interest in my diet and would ask questions); but in the end she said it was to overwelming for her... :(
I could use some advice on how to help people that don't want to help themselves
:(
But Tim, your in-laws are at the earlier stages of these conditions and
their quality of life will be so much better if they become more proactive now.
My relatives are past this stage and things do get worse if they don't act
now.
Best of luck to you and keep living as an example to them :)
P.S.
Dragggon, thank you for sharing those pics of RP. So cool.
WOW, she is beautiful! and the little boy (i assume RP's son, is such
a cutie).
Faith
10-17-2005, 07:55 AM
Hi Tim,
I am 52, when I started raw this year, on Jan 19, I weighed 285 pounds at 5'3" and my blood preasure was 249 over 179, my resting pulse rate was 176, and I was sick and tired all the time, I went raw for 2 months without one cheat, I went down to 243 pounds, my blood preasure went to 146 over 76 and my resting pulse rate went down to 74 all in only 2 months with no medication what-so-ever.
I felt wonderful, I then ate some cooked and back and forthing it for a while.
Look at my pic here, now do I look 52? I don't think so, no one else does either.
Anyway, I feel great, I still weigh over 200 pounds, but I don't feel it, and I love eating raw foods.
There is no way that I will go back to cooked.
I take no medication, or vitamins, or anything like that. And I look and feel great.
It is never too late to live a pain free, healthy life.
Hummm. From the way you talk I thought you were raw for years..?
TimmyC
10-17-2005, 08:07 AM
Punky, thanks very much for the words of wisdom. I won't beat myself up if they don't try it or am not interested. The best thing I can do for them is to be an example, and teach them all I know if they are interested. I've planted the seed, we'll see if it sprouts :). You're right, they're both at the early stages of their diseases. My grandfather was diagnosed type II diabetic when he was like 50 years old. He changed his diet right then and there, and never had to take any medication, and lived until he was 94...his wife, my grandmother still living by herself at 101. Diet has a lot to do with it.
Thanks so much for the post. I appreciate it.
Be good to yourself,
Tim
rawpriestess
10-17-2005, 12:11 PM
Punky, thanks for the compliment, the little one is a child that belonged to the person I danced for, I used to do alot of "Tummy Tellegrams" back then, which is like a singing tellegram, you could send me to someone to say, Happy Birthday, etc. My son is much older, at this time, he would have been 12 or so.
Faith,
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought EVERYONE, had heard this story a gazillion times, but I'll make it short and sweet.
About 5 years ago, I first heard about raw foods, and tried it, lasted on 100% for 3 weeks, fell off the wagon, (no support, no raw board, no raw friends) and I went on and off for 4 years.
got Alissa's book last summer, and started making some of the recipes, I love them, then in Jan of this year, had a "realization" that raw was for me, and so went 100% raw again was there for 2 months with not one cheat, then on and off for several months, then back on, for a month, so.
I feel that I have gone raw 3 times (so far) I never give up.
once, 5 years ago-- for 3 weeks, no detox symptoms, but tons of cravings (well, I guess those WERE the detox symptoms)
once, in jan of this year -- for 2 + months, small detox symptoms, and lost 40+ pounds and felt great
once in Sept of this year -- for 1+ months, BAD BAD detox symptoms, and lost the weight I had gained back from NOT being raw this summer, and feel great.
Hope this clarifies it. (not that I need to explain myself) but since it was confusing, this is my story, and I'm sticking to it. LOL
Helen Of Tennessee
10-17-2005, 01:21 PM
For those of you who may not know if Autum was kidding or not, you can check her profile. Her birthday is posted in there.
I'm 51 (52 next month), but I'm 49 in my photo.
I have gone from being bed ridden for 2 years with severe Fibromyaliga, Chronic Fatigue, horrible headaches, etc. I'm now back into my martial arts and living a normal life! I still am transitioning but have reaped a lot of great health benefits already and can't wait until I'm 60 and totally healthy!!!!!
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Helen Of Tennessee
10-17-2005, 01:32 PM
I'm not sure how old Brenda Cobbs is, but here are 2 links to pictures of her and her story:
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/pictures/befafter_brendacobb.html
http://www.livingfoodsinstitute.com/aboutus.htm
<>< Helen of Tennessee
TimmyC
10-17-2005, 02:41 PM
Thank you Helen! You look great and have overcome so many things. My MIL & FIL I'm sure will be amazed!! Thanks so much!
BTW, Brenda looks good. Thanks for the pictures. She's also overcome a lot. Wow!
Tim
Helen Of Tennessee
10-18-2005, 07:42 AM
Here is Elaine Hollingsworth. She's 77 years old. She is the Director of the Hippocrates Health Centre in Queensland, Australia.
http://www.doctorsaredangerous.com/
If you go to the testimonies there, you'll find a lady that was helped at the age of 80.
<>< Helen of Tennessee
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 08:27 AM
Excellent resource!! Thanks Helen!
Helen Of Tennessee
10-18-2005, 08:38 AM
How about Dr. Norman Walker who lived over 100 years. I think I read somewhere that he was in his 50's when he got cancer:
http://www.rawfood.com/walker.html
<>< Helen of Tennessee
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 10:13 AM
That is very cool! I wonder how much older than 100 he got.
I'll have to ask my grandmother what the secret is to living past 100. She's 101 and still lives by herself. I know some of her answers will be good food (I wonder what kind she'll tell me), no alcohol, and no tobacco. I'm curious to know the rest.
Thanks again Helen!
Tim
Helen Of Tennessee
10-18-2005, 10:23 AM
Hi Tim,
I remember reading an article where they interviewed people over 100. One of the common denominators that all or the majority of them had was their own garden. Some of the people drank, some even smoked, but I bet they had a lot of home grown, basically chemical free foods, fresh from their gardens that made the difference. I wonder if your grandmother has or had a garden of her own.
I have no idea where to find that article but should I ever run across it and if I remember, I'll try to post it here.
As for Dr. Walker, I've read he lived anywhere from 112 to 118 years. He worked up to the day he died. He had his own little store and every afternoon he would take a short nap. One day he took and nap and never woke up. What a way to go :) Wish I had the link to this too. I'll eventually run across this article again.
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Revvell
10-18-2005, 10:23 AM
That is very cool! I wonder how much older than 100 he got.
Tim
I've heard between 108-117. In his books he refused to tell his age referring to himself as "ageless". I have most of his books. He's been an inspiration to me for about 28 years now when I first began studying nutrition.
R.
Helen Of Tennessee
10-18-2005, 10:29 AM
Okay Tim, Here's another one.
Gerry Coffee. I've met her and she's a real sweet lady. She is a grandmother and I'm guessing somewhere in her 60's. She had an ovarian tumor the size of a cantaloupe (when she was 48) and almost died a number of times. Then she went all raw (water fasted numerous times, in clinics and at home) and is one very healthy, out going lady!!!!!
http://www.all-creatures.org/cb/who.html
I think that there are a lot of people in their 60's and older that just learned about how food affects their lives. It's NEVER too late!
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Goldenrod
10-18-2005, 10:31 AM
Hi Tim,
I remember reading an article where they interviewed people over 100. One of the common denominators that all or the majority of them had was their own garden. Some of the people drank, some even smoked, but I bet they had a lot of home grown, basically chemical free foods, fresh from their gardens that made the difference. I wonder if your grandmother has or had a garden of her own.<>< Helen of Tennessee
My Dad's parents both lived to be 96 and my Grandfather was totally into the whole meat and potatoes thing and drank at least one coke a day, veggies and fruit were definitely at every meal, but on the side and he either coated them with sugar or salt. He was born in 1897 and all of his life was lived in the country and they had a huge garden and my Grandmother canned lots of stuff. Think how much of his life was lived before they started putting chemicals all over stuff.
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 10:42 AM
Well my grandfather died at 94, she was 98. Now she's 101. My grandfather and her would always eat fruit for breakfast. I remember them eating cantaloupe one morning and grapefruit the next. They alternated this for decades. They didn't have a garden, but they ate fruit constantly. They had a special place they put all of their fruits and veggie scraps.
That's amazing about Dr. Walker...simply amazing!
Hi Tim,
I remember reading an article where they interviewed people over 100. One of the common denominators that all or the majority of them had was their own garden. Some of the people drank, some even smoked, but I bet they had a lot of home grown, basically chemical free foods, fresh from their gardens that made the difference. I wonder if your grandmother has or had a garden of her own.
I have no idea where to find that article but should I ever run across it and if I remember, I'll try to post it here.
As for Dr. Walker, I've read he lived anywhere from 112 to 118 years. He worked up to the day he died. He had his own little store and every afternoon he would take a short nap. One day he took and nap and never woke up. What a way to go :) Wish I had the link to this too. I'll eventually run across this article again.
<>< Helen of Tennessee
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 10:48 AM
That's amazing. She's got a great story!!
Okay Tim, Here's another one.
Gerry Coffee. I've met her and she's a real sweet lady. She is a grandmother and I'm guessing somewhere in her 60's. She had an ovarian tumor the size of a cantaloupe (when she was 48) and almost died a number of times. Then she went all raw (water fasted numerous times, in clinics and at home) and is one very healthy, out going lady!!!!!
http://www.all-creatures.org/cb/who.html
I think that there are a lot of people in their 60's and older that just learned about how food affects their lives. It's NEVER too late!
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Sweet lips
10-18-2005, 10:53 AM
Tim,
I took my time to read all the post here and there is some wonderful information being provided and I do admire you for your stance on making folks healthy.
Please share with your father-in-law the success stories and make them stuff as well. Someone did it for me, and we need to check the box and pass it on. I had thyroid cancer at 25 and it wrecked my system tremendously, so I was suffering significantly - I didn't know it, but I was and then at 35, I had another surgery because they found pre-cancer cells - major and out of that I developed type II diabetes and all that comes with that. 24.5 years later, I had cancer again (this past Janaury), and although it was a rough surgery, because of raw, my healing was remarkable -Am I totally off of medicines, nope, but it is less, how do I feel - alive and wanting to live.
Please know, I can understand your in-laws desire to give up - it looks insurmountable when you have nothing to compare with. My uncle passed yesterday from complications of diabetes, heart and kidney and he was preceeded by aunt and an uncle who both had those same complications - and my biological father died from the same - but you know what, I don't do the same things they do - diabetes can be reversed - look at Julian Whittaker, MD books, Dean Ornish - Reversing Heart Disease, and Joel Furhman's books - all have on a plant based diet reversed these afflications, so that is why I am alive - it is just never to late to begin again.
Hope this helps
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 10:53 AM
A couple of things:
1. Well one thing out of Gerry's article "Why aren't people shouting about this from the rooftops." I've wondered that since week 1. I'm telling anyone who asks me about this. It's so simple and obvious :).
2. Yes, you have to wonder on what are people's secrets to living that long. Now there are some that age that you'd think are in their 80-90's. And some that look "old." You know? I think it would be interesting to know the stories of the 100+ aged people. Interesting that you brought up chemicals. I wonder how much that has to do with negative health as well.
Tim
My Dad's parents both lived to be 96 and my Grandfather was totally into the whole meat and potatoes thing and drank at least one coke a day, veggies and fruit were definitely at every meal, but on the side and he either coated them with sugar or salt. He was born in 1897 and all of his life was lived in the country and they had a huge garden and my Grandmother canned lots of stuff. Think how much of his life was lived before they started putting chemicals all over stuff.
Tim,
Check www.drbass.com He was born in 1916 and still in good health and spirit. Actually your in-laws can talk to him. His ultimate raw diet is not 100% vegan. But very close.
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 11:50 AM
Sweetlips: I must have posted at the same time as you. I just read your reply. I do plan on bringing raw food dishes or preparing them for our Thanksgiving together....excellent suggestion! Thank you :)
You and your story are certainly inspriational. I'm so glad that you shared it with me! It sounds like you've overcome huge obstacles! Amazing!
I just found out one of my good friends started eating like this after his bout with brain cancer. His doctor told him that he only had 10 months to live. After his surgery, he discovered the healthy eating....no processed foods, organic everything etc. He's having his 4th anniversary this November with no signs of cancer at all. His brain cancer was very rare, and less than 2% survive. I'm convinced it's the food!!
Regarding my IL's, when I view them from my side, I think it's obserd to think that they'll throw in the towel. I'm going to work on them...not push, just work on 'em. If I don't succeed I'll know I gave it my best shot.
Also I'm going to share your story with them as it just makes you feel good about what this lifestyle can do for you, and just the personal story of overcoming the obstacles. Awesome!!
Thanks for your message,
Tim
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 11:53 AM
Wow, he looks good for his age in the picture in 2002! MAK, thanks for the link. I'm going to do some reading now :).
Take care,
Tim
Tim,
Check www.drbass.com (http://www.drbass.com/) He was born in 1916 and still in good health and spirit. Actually your in-laws can talk to him. His ultimate raw diet is not 100% vegan. But very close.
Sweet lips
10-18-2005, 05:55 PM
Tim,
Here is a testimony from another group I am a member:
We got there and the staff was really filled with pity knowing Jeff
> has stage four. They asked him about his cancer sites and he
> answered honestly. No problem in the gut, some pain in his leg but
> seemingly not from the melanoma but more of a soft tissue strain
> (which brought looks of <gee he's in denial... so sad....>). Then
> the doc came in... Now this man is a walking sedative. So calm,
SO quiet, brings peace into a room with his demeanor. He came in
happy > to see us and started asking Jeff questions about his leg. So Jeff
> told him what was going on. He asked if Jeff's leg hurt like a
> toothache and Jeff said no. He asked if it hurt at night and the
> answer was again no. It turns out his issue IS a soft tissue
strain and not cancer! LOL! Then he started asking if he had aches,
> headaches, stomach aches, problems breathing at all. Jeff
> replied "No, I feel great!". To which he doctor said "No tummy
> aches at all?" Jeff, "Nope." Doc, "Not ever?" Jeff, "Nope."
> Doc, "NEVER?" Jeff, "Nope, I feel better than I have in a long
> time!" Doc,"Well! That's good!!!"
> He spoke with him about the node in his right groin which is and
has > been roughly the size of a small egg and now that Jeff's lost 60
> pounds it really stands out more LOL! He looked at Jeff and told
> him that we could "DO" something about that one. We could remove
it > if ever Jeff wanted to. Jeff just smiled. Then the doctor started
> charting. Jeff then went into his small chat about how he's gone
> 100% vegan and 90% raw at that and the doctor *grinned*! He stood
> up and looked at Jeff and said "IF you're going to be here in six
> more months, and it certainly looks like you will, we'll take that
> thing out if it's bothering ya!" When he left the room he
> muttered "This is good, good, good, good, good!" He did NOT order
> more CAT or PET scans. It wasn't warranted today!
>
> We're three months out from Jeff's stage four diagnosis. He was
> SURE he was going to have to tell us today that Jeff had six months
> or so to live! WOW! He said he didn't need to even SEE Jeff for
> three more months! So now we go back in January and are to call if
> Jeff has any problems at all! WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!
>
> Just had to share the FIRST doctor's visit for cancer since we
> started the Hallelujah Acres diet!!!
>
> Stefani
>
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Pretty amazing stuff Sweetlips.
CAdreamer
10-18-2005, 08:35 PM
I'll be 62 in a couple of monthe and my husband will be 69 in a month. He actually looks a LOT youner than his years, but I couldn't find a pic on the computer to post. We both have been RAW, from vegan, since may, and feel wonderful !! Our energy level is high, and generally feel very well, and our hair color is still more natural brown than gray. It's never to late to adopt the RAW lifestyle, but it takes a lot perseverance to change lifelong eating habits, and learn to prepare meals in a totally different way. Old habits die hard, sometimes, but I'd still encourage you to help your in-laws to see the benefits, and then perhaps get them started by preparing some yummy RAW meals while they visit.
Autumn
10-18-2005, 09:25 PM
OMG I hope you people are kidding. I'm 38! That's what I get for making a joke. I should have checked back earlier before it got out of hand! LMAO!
Rawpriestess,
Just when I thought I couldn't be more jealous of you.... WOW! :eek: !!!
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 09:33 PM
CAdreamer, this is perfect. I'm going to show them this reply. You're very close to MIL's age, and you look fantastic...the raw glow probably :)!!
I couldn't agree with you more on the willingness. You have to want to change. Not sure what made me do it, but something clicked inside on one day...it's hard to explain, and I and I alone made a commitment to myself.
Thanks again,
Tim
I'll be 62 this year and my husband will be 69 next month. We are both feeling better than ever.... on raw since May this year. We both have a lot of energy and feel much younger than our years indicate. It's absolutely never too late to adopt RAW, but it does take a willingness to learn and to do what it takes to change.
TimmyC
10-18-2005, 09:35 PM
Are you sure you're 38? Well I'm so gullable I can't believe it. We're the same age btw. You rawk too!! You had me fooled I admit it. Paybacks can be a little tough though:).
Tim
OMG I hope you people are kidding. I'm 38! That's what I get for making a joke. I should have checked back earlier before it got out of hand! LMAO!
Rawpriestess,
Just when I thought I couldn't be more jealous of you.... WOW! :eek: !!!
Sharon in Colorado
10-18-2005, 10:28 PM
I'm 38 too. I don't look a day over 76. Well, at least all my white hair does.
kennym02
01-22-2006, 02:54 PM
Just curious. You said the picture you posted of you, at 52, is after you started eating raw last January. Then you said later on that this picture is a couple of years old. So is the picture you posted before or after raw?
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