Supplements

[kellybethx3]

What do you take, like all the powders and stuff that you use everyday and such. I have a few but I wanted to know anymore people use. also do I need supplements? or do i get it all from the fruits and greens?

[kellybethx3]

Anyoneee?...

[michigan roman]

imo , as in most raw foodists , you only need to suppliment with vegan form VITAMIN B12 . which is very important for the nervous system as if you become defficient nervous system damage can occur

everything else i look to get from raw plants

amongst them its popular opinion that dark raw greens are most important food as they supply vitamin a / calcium / iron plus fiber

i get b vitamin family from wheat germ and bran / nutritional yeast / mushrooms

vita c from citrus / peppers / tomato

vita e from sun seeds

protei from nuts seeds

i like jarrow brand B12

and as a 17 year vegan thats read on it entire time i want to emphasize not to take VITAMIN B12 deficiency lightly because ive read too many smart vegans warn to make sure you suppliment it . its a topic thats always being debated and something every vegan should keep an eye on to see where the cutting edge opinion is always

[kaleboy]

I use dulse flakes in my green smoothies and a teaspoon of chlorella powder in water daily. Both of these pack a mighty punch.

[kellybethx3]

Thanks for the info! I am making sure i get my B12 too. It's in nutritional yeast and in dulse!

[kaleboy]

B12 is in dulse but only as an analog form and hence not easily absorbed by humans. Dulse is great for its mineral content and also Iodine. Chlorella B12 is good though and proven in studies to be absorbed by humans...plenty of info on the web about it.

[Stina]

Along with B12, take Vit. D seriously. Deficiency is epidemic.

[Stina]

B12 is in dulse but only as an analog form and hence not easily absorbed by humans. Dulse is great for its mineral content and also Iodine. Chlorella B12 is good though and proven in studies to be absorbed by humans...plenty of info on the web about it.


Didn't know that about chlorella! Thanks for educating me. I eat it with cilantro in a smoothie on a regular basis to sweep out mercury.

[kellybethx3]

I didn't know that about chlorella either! Can I get that at health food stores. What's a good supplement for Vitamin D?

[michigan roman]

far as ive read not seen anyone say the 12 in chlorella was absorbable , but its rather another analog . if theres a new opinion ide like to see it

a few new opinions ive seen say red star nutritional yeast naturally contains 12 but its not like ive seen it massly agreed upon / talked about , i thusly still suppliment 12

i dont suppliment d as i feel i get it from sun , but many say take it . if do
most versions are from sheeps wool and you should look for the type made from tortula yeast . and like stina says theres alot of people ive read currently saying were very d low and if you up d levels you can prevent cancer and fight of viruses so its a topic worth studying

[kellybethx3]

Thanks! I think I get enough from the sun too!

[kaleboy]

I posted a thread called Delay in B12 deficiency. There are a few links under that regarding Chlorella B12 availability...

[michigan roman]

ok thanx i'll read the thread

[sport]

I take D and B12
You need to take D3 and not D2.

[michigan roman]

kb hopefully chlorella is the 12 answer and im going to try some as ive never used before . but these opinions are only of a few sources so im not accepting as fact in light of all the counter opnions ive read about chlorella 12 not being effective . but im now keeping an eye out on the topic so thanks for info

wondering if youve read up on chlorellas best suppliers and if have an opinion on whom to buy from

[michigan roman]

I take D and B12
You need to take D3 and not D2.

hi sport :)

im wondering if you know your vita d's source , is it tortulla yeast

[kaleboy]

There are plenty of suppliers on the net, the main thing you want to look for is where and the quality of water the stuff is grown in. A good supplier will provide as many details as possible. There are a few cheaper brands where the product grown in India which I would probably avoid...

[DebB]

For what it's worth -- I take Jarrow brand (http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methyl-B-12-5000-mcg-60-Lozenges/117?at=0) (5000mcg daily) and my recent bloodwork showed my B12 levels were fine, I was happy to hear that. But - I also take chlorella daily too. I didn't know that was beneficial for B12 levels.

My Vitamin D (http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Vitamin-D3-2000-IU-360-Soft-Gels/8743?at=0) was a bit low, so he bumped me from 6000IU per day up to 8000IU.

[michigan roman]

article on B12 :

http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/plant

[kaleboy]

see in that Chen and Jiang 2008 study that the chlorella showed good B12 but only negligible analogue B12...also in the 1968 test but the 2008 test method appears more reliable.

[michigan roman]

kb i asked the ' physicians commite for responsible medicine ' on twitter about B12 in chlorella and belows their reply :

PCRM PCRM
@ @michiganroman @veganmainstream Our fact sheet on B12: http://ow.ly/4luC9 Spirulina, chlorella, sea vegetables NOT active/reliable source.
33 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

* this commite is made up of mainstream respected physicians as you could tell if you check them out at twitter / on line

that said i dont take their opinion as fact either because im not sure how many studies theyre drawing from

i just wanted to present their veiwpoint with their up to date posistion so that people remain focused on the B12 issue and keep checking all sources over and over because there are many different opinions and ive yet to hear any big number of scientific / medical people say you can get B12 from plants

from my studys over 17 years of veganism i keep getting back to thinking eating root vegis grown in rich organic soils is best natural source . i keep saying to take good soil and mix with water then strain out particles for a liquid B12 drink . and ive seen many say you can get it from soil , its made by micro organisms in soil . ive not heard anyone dispute that . but ive not heard anyone say drink soil water which to me is the fix . ide like seeing ' soil water ' tested for B12

[michigan roman]

forgot to add i early in thread said i saw someone state there was 12 in redstar yeast , something i never read before

so i went back i hunted it down and it ended up the source mis spoke and that the 12 in redstar is added from yeast grown on i think molasses or maybe beets

thats how its gone many times in reading on 12 , people talking without knowing facts or disagreements over if the source is an analog

[Arky]

I wonder if our ancestors got their vitamin D from sheeps wool and their B12 from yeast?

...Food for thought, don't you think?

[dime]

Probably they didn't, but how's that relevant for us?

[sport]

I wonder if our ancestors got their vitamin D from sheeps wool and their B12 from yeast?
?

Our ancestors were out in the sun all day and eating dirty food.

[Stina]

At this point even healthy people living in the tropics are becoming deficient in vit d. Something in the environment has changed. Be wise and get your D level checked and don't assume it is okay because you get outside in the sun. It's important enough to educate yourself about. Theres been some fascinating research at the local Oregon Science and Health University linking mothers deficient in vit.d and babies with autism.

[kellybethx3]

That has fish in it though

[MysticTree]

That has fish in it though

just ignore. They are spamming their link.
It will be gone soon.

Georgina

[MysticTree]

I just had a bit of a disagreement with the bloke in the Health Food shop about B12 supplements. He wouldn't have it that one of their range had milk in it even though it said it on the bottle.

I found a vegan one. It's not raw but I will probably only take one every couple of weeks or so.

Georgina

[MysticTree]

I take D and B12
You need to take D3 and not D2.

I thought D3 wasn't suitable for Vegans ...

http://www.vegansociety.com/lifestyle/nutrition/

Georgina

[Raw Angel Mom]

B12 is in dulse but only as an analog form and hence not easily absorbed by humans. Dulse is great for its mineral content and also Iodine. Chlorella B12 is good though and proven in studies to be absorbed by humans...plenty of info on the web about it.

Thank you for the chlorella info. You are the second person confirming this.

Brendan Brazier used to supplement with B12 but since doing Chlorella, he doesn't have too.

[Raw Angel Mom]

I am just starting MACA, i didn't supplement before except for e3live, spirullina and at time CoQ10 but you can get that from microgreen. I would supplement with B12 but now, i will simply take chlorella.

Vitamin D on winter only

[agustinho]

In my case, i only taking 2 health supplements to support me on my busy schedule lifestyle. One Multivitamins (acquire vitamins and minerals that one person should have) and One Stress Protect (stress management and more energy).

[Tea]

Here are my supplements right now:

astaxanthin (for sun protection)
whole food supplement - megafoods
pycnogenol
omega 3 oil
protein powder with spirulina
madre-c whole food vitamin C supplement

Does anyone else use whole food supplements?

[Dent de Lion]

I wonder if our ancestors got their vitamin D from sheeps wool and their B12 from yeast?

...Food for thought, don't you think?

They got their D from the sun and their b12 from dirty produce and insects.

[Arky]

I wonder if our ancestors got their vitamin D from sheeps wool and their B12 from yeast?

...Food for thought, don't you think?


Our ancestors were out in the sun all day and eating dirty food.


They got their D from the sun and their b12 from dirty produce and insects.




LOL - please don't take me literally; I was being sarcastic ;-)



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[sport]

LOL - please don't take me literally; I was being [I]sarcastic ;-)

I think that we are all well aware of your knowledge level and would never doubt you.

[GreenLeaves]

I take D and B12
You need to take D3 and not D2.

The 'Vitamin D Solution' by M.F. Holick says D2 is just as good as D3. In fact, when people are given prescriptions for massive doses of vit D due to extreme deficiencies these are always D2. The book says you don't need a larger quantity of D2 than D3 either. It's not less absorbable. Although that myth is prevalent. This is good news for vegans.

[sport]

The 'Vitamin D Solution' by M.F. Holick says D2 is just as good as D3. In fact, when people are given prescriptions for massive doses of vit D due to extreme deficiencies these are always D2. The book says you don't need a larger quantity of D2 than D3 either. It's not less absorbable. Although that myth is prevalent. This is good news for vegans.
My understanding is that if you take 2 people with deficiencies and give one D2 and one D3 and track their improvements you will find that for the first 14 days they will be equally good but after 14 days the D2 recipient will start to lag and after 6 weeks they will be back at their starting point.
The D3 person will continue to show improvement.