Champion Juicer Wheatgrass and Leafy Green Attachment

[DebB]

Wow - I was very surprised to see this video by John Kohler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jAOq1oIi1s&feature=feedu)today from the trade show. He demonstrates an all new wheatgrass and leafy greens attachment for the Champion juicer!

He said it will sell for around $90 and be available on Champion's website April 15. *Ü*

[Arky]

Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?

[Aleesha Sattva]

i'll be ordering one as soon as they are available!!! i loooooooooooooove my champion. love my greenstar too but i end up using my champion way more often.

so this will be a great addition :excited:

[DebB]

Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?

No disrespect taken! To be honest, I was wondering the same thing. Wondering how it will do because it runs quickly. I look forward to reviews from Aleesha - if you order one!

You asked how I juice my greens. We bought a second juicer, a Samson and I use that to juice my greens. Also juices my wheatgrass -and- it cold presses our flax oil ;) I use them both daily because the Samson does not do a good job on fruit or cucumbers, all of which go into my green juice.

I do love my kitchen appliances!! :heart *Ü*

[Aleesha Sattva]

oh i'll be ordering one!!!

[DebB]

Well - the air went outa my balloon when he said these were for models made after 1988 (?) I don't recall the exact year - but ours is from the early 80s, so according to that it wouldn't work/fit. But it did make me wonder what the difference from mine to newer models is....

I look forward to your review ~ I know we both LOVE our Champions! *Ü*

[Aleesha Sattva]

i know mine will work... just got it 3 years ago. i'm so excited. first thing i said to my hubby when he got home... "mama's getting a new attachment for her champion!!!"

[DebB]

:dance::throwhearts::dance:


i know mine will work... just got it 3 years ago. i'm so excited. first thing i said to my hubby when he got home... "mama's getting a new attachment for her champion!!!"

[Arky]

No disrespect taken! To be honest, I was wondering the same thing. Wondering how it will do because it runs quickly. I look forward to reviews from Aleesha - if you order one!

You asked how I juice my greens. We bought a second juicer, a Samson and I use that to juice my greens. Also juices my wheatgrass -and- it cold presses our flax oil ;) I use them both daily because the Samson does not do a good job on fruit or cucumbers, all of which go into my green juice.

I do love my kitchen appliances!! :heart *Ü*


Oh, I used to own a Matstone, which is pretty much identical to the Samson. I liked it and I must say I concur absolutely 100% with your stated pros and cons of that juicer. Even the Oscar 900/Omega 8006 struggles a bit with soft fruits and cucumbers, but it does manage them ok if you alternate which items of produce you feed in, and provided the silicone seal is not too worn, on the front of the conical juice screen.

How do you get on with the Samson oil extractor? I very nearly bought one of these attachments before I gave away my Matstone. Do you find it cost-effective for making flax oil? I was concerned that it might not yield enough to be cost-effective. Be interested to hear your experiences with this...

As far as wheatgrass juicing goes, the Samson is a great little machine and from what I recall, it does as good a job as the Oscar 900/Omega 8003/4/5/6 on grasses and fibrous leafy greens.





@ Aleesha - save yer money and get a dedicated greens juicer such as the lexen, rather than the Champion attachment! LOL :p ...Well, whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you. Gotta have a good solution for making those green, green juices ;)

[DebB]

How do you get on with the Samson oil extractor? I very nearly bought one of these attachments before I gave away my Matstone. Do you find it cost-effective for making flax oil? I was concerned that it might not yield enough to be cost-effective. Be interested to hear your experiences with this...)

The Samson does a really good job making the flax oil. We make 4 (14oz) containers of it and put it in the freezer. I make those over the course of 1 day - letting it completely cool down between batches. I can press 1 (14oz) bottle's worth in about 30=+/- minutes.

My husband did the math and he figured our savings just in pressing our own flax oil alone would pay for the juicer in about 6 months. We both take 1-2T per day and we were paying $14 per 14oz bottle through my doctor's office. We order 25# bags of organic flax (brown) through Azure Standard.

And I tell ya - we love the taste. There's something about it being freshly pressed, albeit frozen - it still tastes better than Barlean's brand that we were buying.

The only down side is cleaning the auger or grinding rod housing (not sure what it's called). Where the metal meets the plastic - the compressed flax cake gets caught up in there, so one has to be very mindful to get that all cleaned out (which I do with a turkey skewer thing, metal pin with a sharp point). That's the only design flaw that I've come across so far. But if I keep that nice and clean -- I am good to GO! *Ü*

[Aleesha Sattva]

@ Aleesha - save yer money and get a dedicated greens juicer such as the lexen, rather than the Champion attachment! LOL :p ...Well, whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you. Gotta have a good solution for making those green, green juices ;)

i have a greenstar!

[Arky]

i have a greenstar!

(Scratching my head here...) LOL! - Errr...so, if you have a Greenstar, why do you need a greens-juicing attachment for your Champion?!

=> BEWILDERED ! <=

;)

[michigan roman]

arkys back :woohoo:

now i can get back to learning again :yes:

and if ive my way rawtruths well ands soon to return :woohoo:

[Arky]

arkys back :woohoo:

now i can get back to learning again :yes:

and if ive my way rawtruths well ands soon to return :woohoo:

LOL - nice of you to imply that I have some common sense, michigan roman, but my friends and family know that definitely ain't the case! ;)

In any case, I'm just passing through - I stop by every couple of years, just to touch base here. Hope all is well with you.

I keep learning just the same as we all do..."life is a journey..." etc etc.

All the best.

[michigan roman]

LOL - nice of you to imply that I have some common sense, michigan roman, but my friends and family know that definitely ain't the case! ;)

In any case, I'm just passing through - I stop by every couple of years, just to touch base here. Hope all is well with you.

I keep learning just the same as we all do..."life is a journey..." etc etc.

All the best.

hope your doing well too arky , i seriously miss your posts / outlook !!!!

like you say its a journey , and we cant go back but rather can only grow forward faster !

and at this point in my journey / evolution i say to all " obviously the ultimate being is a plant eater thusly i am one "

heres to your speedy growth towards
eternity arky , may we speak again .......:)

[Arky]

hope your doing well too arky , i seriously miss your posts / outlook !!!!

like you say its a journey , and we cant go back but rather can only grow forward faster !

and at this point in my journey / evolution i say to all " obviously the ultimate being is a plant eater thusly i am one "

heres to your speedy growth towards
eternity arky , may we speak again .......:)


Well, as they say in Star Trek, may you "live long and prosper!" (not sure if they were growing micro greens or wheatgrass on board the starship Enterprise - one can only speculate what helped them live long...) :)


The Samson does a really good job making the flax oil. We make 4 (14oz) containers of it and put it in the freezer. I make those over the course of 1 day - letting it completely cool down between batches. I can press 1 (14oz) bottle's worth in about 30=+/- minutes.

My husband did the math and he figured our savings just in pressing our own flax oil alone would pay for the juicer in about 6 months. We both take 1-2T per day and we were paying $14 per 14oz bottle through my doctor's office. We order 25# bags of organic flax (brown) through Azure Standard.

And I tell ya - we love the taste. There's something about it being freshly pressed, albeit frozen - it still tastes better than Barlean's brand that we were buying.

The only down side is cleaning the auger or grinding rod housing (not sure what it's called). Where the metal meets the plastic - the compressed flax cake gets caught up in there, so one has to be very mindful to get that all cleaned out (which I do with a turkey skewer thing, metal pin with a sharp point). That's the only design flaw that I've come across so far. But if I keep that nice and clean -- I am good to GO! *Ü*

Hmmm... you have me now (casually) contemplating again what the economics would be for me to buy flax here in the UK. Problem is, it wouldn't be worth it for me to buy an entire Samson/Matstone again just for making flax oil. I know the Omega 800x/Oscar DA 900 can be adapted to use Samson gear (and vice-versa), but it requires unscrewing the face plate and that'd be too much hassle each time...unless...I do what you do and run a whole batch through for freezing purposes...hmmm..! (rubbing my chin!) :D

Thanks for the feedback on the oil attachment - whether I move forwards with that now or not, I'm certain that info will come in handy to someone (perhaps me) some time in the future. Much obliged to you.


All the best to both of you.

[Aleesha Sattva]

you asked why i'd want the attachment for my champion if i have a greenstar.

cause i do mostly soft fruits when i juice and the greenstar isn't great with them... so i tend to use my champion more. so if i could get my champion to do wheatgrass and greens better... then i could perhaps rehome my greenstar and have more room on my juicing counter!

[Arky]

you asked why i'd want the attachment for my champion if i have a greenstar.

cause i do mostly soft fruits when i juice and the greenstar isn't great with them... so i tend to use my champion more. so if i could get my champion to do wheatgrass and greens better... then i could perhaps rehome my greenstar and have more room on my juicing counter!

Hmmm. I hear you, but I'm still not convinced! _ does your husband have any say in the matter? ;)


...I'm guessing the answer to that (apart from mind your own business LOL is a resounding "No, he does not!!") :D




I take it you mostly blend your greens at present?

[Aleesha Sattva]

no i use my champion for my greens. i cut them up like i would for a salad and it does a good job of them. i don't do wheatgrass at home so it's not an issue. i tend to only keep it here during the summer. i live in a very humid climate and it molds too much during the winter.

my hubby doesn't do juice... so the juicers are for me. he just juices for me... and definitely prefers the greenstar over the champion.

i would happily only use the greenstar except it doesn't like tomatoes and that's what i have for dinner every night when i'm fasting. tom juice in a bowl with a spoon. (other things in the tom juice... but you get the idea)

i love my greenstar, love the quality of the juice. if i could get it to love my tomatoes... i'd happily just use it. but alas... i can't seem to get it to like them - even with the larger screen. :(

[Arky]

Well, as someone who uses a single-auger juicer on a daily basis, I think you might be hoping too much from the Champion's new auger attachment - being completely serious now, my Omega 8006 does a good job on almost anything but really not very competent with soft fruits such as tomatoes.

Truly, and in all seriousness, if you wish to juice tomatoes, I think you'd be wasting your money trying to do this in any worthwhile quantity with any single auger juicer. Perhaps a press juicer might do better for you with tomatoes, but I've no personal experience with these kind of juicers so can't say for sure. Either that or get the Vitamix out and just blend the tomatoes? (with or without the skins - lots of silicon but also, potentially, lots of solanine alkaloids which aren't great for calcium metabolism, although this is, admittedly, a contentious issue - see here for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine)

Unfortunately, there's no getting away from the fact that auger juicers need some fibre in order for the auger's 'thread' to gain any purchase upon the food in order to crush and expel it efficiently. The newer 'vert' juicers are an interesting development, of course, because they additionally capitalise upon gravity to feed the food along the length of the auger. IF, and only IF I was going to try to produce tomato juice on a regular basis, and in worthwhile quantity, with an auger-based juicer, I guess I'd try a 'vert'-style one, for this reason of gravity assistance, but I feel they are currently overpriced, and certainly a lot more expensive than a $90 Champion attachment (but I suspect it may be a wasted $90 investment anyway, sorry to say. I reckon that attachment is more about Champion saving face and making a few extra dollars from their established customer base, than it is about actually accomplishing the task which the Champion has always been unable to effectively accomplish. To be honest, I feel quite sorry for employees or retailers who have to demonstrate that attachment - it must be embarrassing).

[Aleesha Sattva]

wow that's quite the opinion on the champion when you haven't even given it a try arky.

nonetheless my champion does a great job on tomatoes so i'm not looking for a new juicer. i looooove my champion. works great for my needs. it juices greens... as it is so i don't see why a new attachment won't make them juice even better. i guess i'll have to waste my money and find out!

[Arky]

wow that's quite the opinion on the champion when you haven't even given it a try arky.

nonetheless my champion does a great job on tomatoes so i'm not looking for a new juicer. i looooove my champion. works great for my needs. it juices greens... as it is so i don't see why a new attachment won't make them juice even better. i guess i'll have to waste my money and find out!

oh, no no, I'm not criticising the Champion at all - all I am saying is that I recognise that having an extremely fast spindle speed means that the Champion is not ideally suited to auger juicing of greens, that's all :)

Similarly, I own the 8006 but I recognise that it doesn't do a particularly good job of soft fruits, for example (http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=64303). I doubt any juicer does a perfect job of all produce types...


As I said, if the new auger attachment for the Champion had some method to slow down the auger, I would have an entirely different opinion.

Look again, for yourself, closely, at the video DebB linked-to in her original post. Note how, even after the second pass, the grass is still quite intact. Why? Because at 1725rpm, it would cause too much friction and heat to thoroughly grind, mash and squeeze the fibres.

So, no offence intended at all, and please don't think I'm criticising the Champion juicer itself - I'm definitely not. Just the attachment, which is plainly illogical in it's design. Places like Hippocrates etc. have Champions at their disposal - I wonder how many of these institutions will be using the new attachment to juice all their trays of wheatgrass?

As I mentioned previously, the Champion (when combined with a manual hydraulic press) is possibly the best way to get the performance of the venerable (and hyper-expensive) Norwalk, with produce such as apples and carrots, and that is a praise-worthy and respect-worthy accomplishment indeed. I highly respect the Champion. I also acknowledge that it's built like a tank and will easily outlast almost any other juicer on the market - it's properly engineered.

Back to the attachment, I'm not at all too proud to be proven wrong, however, and I absolutely will not complain if someone buys the attachment, gets fabulous results with wheatgrass, and posts here to tell me so, yourself included. On the contrary, I'll be very pleased for you &/or them, and I'll have learned something from the outcome.

Peace. :) :tea:

[Aleesha Sattva]

i'll happily and joy-fully keep you posted! and i'd love a cup of that tea you are drinking!

[evelynf]

I just heard about the attachment, Aleesha how do you like it?

[Aleesha Sattva]

Haven't picked it up yet. I've become readdicted to my greenstar and can't seem to think about using anything else LOL

[evelynf]

oh no LOL too funny!

[Aleesha Sattva]

giggling... yup. I always had a hard time getting my greenstar to do soft fruits. I've managed to get it working just fine now. So... I'm using it daily now. My poor champion is in the corner... alone... waiting for it's turn.

giggling...

[gruvdiva]

I was thrilled to receive my Champion Greens Attachment. It does not, however juice leafy greens and in fact broke my juicer. I followed the directions to a T. It might be okay for wheat grass but it definitely does not do leafy greens even though the instructions say to include the stalks. Also, my kitchen is now stained green. Just sayin'.

[DebB]

I was thrilled to receive my Champion Greens Attachment. It does not, however juice leafy greens and in fact broke my juicer. I followed the directions to a T. It might be okay for wheat grass but it definitely does not do leafy greens even though the instructions say to include the stalks. Also, my kitchen is now stained green. Just sayin'.

It broke your juicer? What did Champion have to say about that? I know that this is for the 'newer' models, mine is too old for this attachment since I've had it since the early 80s. I hope Champion makes it right for you. *Ü*

[Aleesha Sattva]

i'd like to hear what champion has to say as well. seems weird that it would break your juicer. pretty hard to break a champion...

[Onewho Knows]

Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?

Hey Arky,:whisper it’s very curious how you could have so many negative opinions about a product that you’ve never used and about a company you have never dealt with.* You stated “It simply isn’t logical to juice cereal grasses …. At 1700 RPM.* Well take it from someone who has actually used the greens attachment, logical or not, Champion accomplished just that!* It does a great job of juicing wheatgrass and other greens (kale, celery, chard, spinach).* When comparing it to my Omega 8003, it juices faster, produces cooler juice, and is easier to clean.**
Guess what?* It cost me $250 for my Omega and only $75 for the Champion Greens Attachment; sounds like a good deal to me.* Besides that, Champion does a much better job on everything else anyway, so I no longer have any use for my Omega and can get some extra money when I sell it.* As long as Champion stands behind this new product as well as they have stood behind my Champion juicer, I’ll be happy.

[johnr]

Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?

I've been juicing for 30+ years; have owned a Champion for 25 of those years, still do. While I use an Omega 8003 for my leafy greens, a friend has this attachment and it works beautifully. My Champion has been through thousands of juicings, I've had to replace the cutter a few times, but it just keeps on going. I own a dozen juicers now just because I like them; however, with this attachment I could confine myself to one. Don't be misled by all the hoopla over grinding speed; the best juicer is the one you'll use every day. I've done manual greens juicing (when camping) and it ain't fun at all.

[michigan roman]

grinding speed matters !!!!!!! a juicer like a champion , i own brand new commercial model , spins too fast and froths up and heats juices . plus alters tastes of soft things like tomato and pineapple . plus leaks out of the shute . it has a GREAT heavy duty GE motor ands thee most super heavy duty unit on market ive seen and may last for 50 years and do hard roots vegis well , but it still froths and heats . champion could have the best juicer on market if they slowed down rpms and redesigned grinding head to an auger type like on omega 8006 and such because the champion motor is way more powerful then others . but nobody listens to me so its a flawed design

now how the new attachment works cant say yet as have not used , but at $75 damn dollars it better be awesome . way to gouge your customers that already payed $250 for juicer champion :rolleyes:

[Barbara Parker]

I hope the following feedback will be helpful. I just bought one of these Champion wheat grass attachments here in the UK for my 16 year old Champion Juicer and I am thrilled to bits with it. I am impressed by the sturdiness of all the parts, just as you would expect from the manufacturer of such a durable juicer. I'll be surprised if the tough screen on this Champion attachment breaks, like the brittle screen on the old single auger wheat grass juicer I bought 7 years ago kept doing. I had to buy 5 replacement screens for it over the years. I've never yet had to buy a replacement part for my Champion Juicer.

The Champion wg attachment does work extremely fast, too fast to have any chance of heating up the pulp or the juice it produces. The greens fly through the juicer in a second! To put the pulp through the recommended second time only takes a few extra seconds. Its fabulous! I like the fact that I don't have to stand and wait the way I did with my single auger juicer while it wobbled and ground its way through a slow speed juicing session (surely subjecting the greens to more friction and heat than the Champion wg attachment).

Now I can juice every thing quickly in one juicer by just swapping over the juicing parts. I still have 2 sets of juicing parts to clean, but the Champion wg attachment is just as easy to clean as my old single auger juicer parts. I can now retire my single auger juicer and free up some counter space. Hoorah!

[Aleesha Sattva]

Barbara, if you haven't replaced your cutter in 16 years... then you obviously barely use your juicer. Even a champion needs that part replaced every two years.

SIDE NOTE TO MEMBERS: Note that we are having a lot of 'single post' members in this thread... take their words/comments/advice with a grain of salt.

[Emiliana]

I didn't realize anything had to be replaced with the Champion. Is the cutter the thing with the little spikes?

[Aleesha Sattva]

it is! you replace it, depending on use... every couple of years. i've replaced mine once... bought two of them so i just interchange the new ones. ;)

[histreasuresare]

Hello! I am just a beginner in this juicing world & bought an older champion on ebay. I thought I would need the green attach. I saw advertized so I bought one. My pulp from the spinach comes out soggy even when I put it thru the 2nd time. What's up? Did I make a big mistake by buying this expensive part? I can manually squeeze more juice out of the pulp after the 2nd time thru this attachment:( Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

[Barbara Parker]

Barbara, if you haven't replaced your cutter in 16 years... then you obviously barely use your juicer. Even a champion needs that part replaced every two years.

SIDE NOTE TO MEMBERS: Note that we are having a lot of 'single post' members in this thread... take their words/comments/advice with a grain of salt.

Aleesha, I don't juice every day but I juice every weekend and my Champion's cutter still feels sharp to me. I have no problem with how it juices. It was my understanding that the Champion cutter could last a lifetime. Steel is a lot more durable than fruit and veg. I was told the zig zag steel cutter blades might wear down only if the juicer was being used many times a day, like for an intensive juicing therapy. It seems like a waste of money to change what appears to be a perfectly good, sharp cutter.

[Aleesha Sattva]

16 years times juicing twice every weekend gives you 1664 days of juicing... which is equal to 4.5 years of juicing daily.

I've changed my cutter and I've owned my Champion for almost 4 years - got a new cutter at about the 3.5 year mark...

;) It may feel sharp but a new cutter makes a huge difference in the pulp and how wet it is when it leaves the juicer.


Side note for others: I have a fasting client who picked up the attachment and loves it. She's thrilled with how it's working for her. So that's one "YES" in the world of 'who loves their greens attachment'.

[jasongannon]

Any other thoughts on this one?

Thinking of getting one for my Champion but most the reviews I've read online say it's "so-so".

[Aleesha Sattva]

i haven't picked one up myself... since i own both a champion and greenstar. AND i find that cutting my greens up and putting them thru the champion is fine. that said... i don't do a lot of green juices and so i'm not talking about a lot of greens per juice.

[DebB]

i haven't picked one up myself... since i own both a champion and greenstar. AND i find that cutting my greens up and putting them thru the champion is fine. that said... i don't do a lot of green juices and so i'm not talking about a lot of greens per juice.

I haven't gotten it either as I also have a Samson and it juices wheat grass wonderfully.

[david0704]

I bought a champion juicer used and overall like the way it juices, however when I do leafy greens or soft fruit it is very frothy.
How do you know if the cutter needs to be replaced? I have been considering the leafy greens attachment. If I can make the champion work for me i think it is better, made in USA, I support locally manufacured when I can.

[Aleesha Sattva]

how long have you been using your cutter? it takes about 2 years worth of regular juicing to need it replaced.

and... i found that if i cut up the greens like i would for a salad, that it frothed less. but alas... frothing and juice often go hand in hand. personally i just mix it in or scoop it off the top depending on the juice and amount of froth. with pineapple juice... i eat it with a spoon and call it dessert!!!

[david0704]

It is the most frothy with leafy greens, or soft fruit like orange, or beets. With carrots, apples, celery, ginger, lemons, and similar things it does pretty well. I do cut things up especially cellery since the strings wrap around the cutter if I don't. Is there any way to know other than the amount of use of a cutter to determine if it is dull. Is there a performance test of some sort where you can be sure, or is it if you are asking it probably needs it. How does the Champion with a new cutter perform different from one with an oler cutter? Since I bought it used I don't know the history of the cutter.

I also have a question about wheat grass, everyone seems to say the Champion cannot do wheatgrass, but in the manual it says WHEAT GRASS JUICE
Type of Vegetable to Use: Freshly cut wheat
grass.
Preparing the Vegetables: Cut the grass in 2 inch
lengths, 6 cups of grass yield 6 ounces of juice.
Feeding Process: Juice the wheat grass a small
amount at a time, alternating with a small amount
of water, until all is juiced. For a tastier nutritious
drink, add 6 walnuts and four cups of carrot
juice.

Is that considered different than the wheat grass people talk about?

[johnr55]

I posted an observation on here a year ago on 5/10/11. Following up now. Still loving the 8003 that I've used for several years, but also love my old Champion. Like another poster, mine is too old to get the wg attachment, but I can't imagine how the greens could get that heated up since the device spits the greens out like a cannon compared to my 8003. Reviews on Amazon haven't been good for the attachment, but as stated earlier, a lot of that is probably by newbies.