Colonics- Phoenix area, AZ

[rawnhealthy]

Hi guys,

If anyone else is in Phoenix area and is looking to do a little 'spring cleaning' aka Colonics(colon hydrotherapy), I found this wonderful place called Mind Body and Flow in Chandler. I've have colonics before but always had some side effects afterward...not anymore. I feel great actually. (if anyone wants to know more, just message me).

Happy Spring! :excited:

http://www.mindbodyandflow.com/

[BeingK8]

I'm not in your area but I've had lots of colonics and now do it at home with a Colema board and I came on here specifically to find discussions about colonics, learn about other people's experiences, get more info, more tips, etc.

Now I'm really curious about the side effects you've had. Do tell, if you're willing to share the details. I can take it, and maybe we could just add a warning for others if they're graphic or gruesome details! ;)

[rawnhealthy]

Well, I went to two different places prior to now- both legit businesses with licensed therapists. They told me I wouldn't have any side effects- I guess they don't consider this a side effect. Every time I went I had severe stomach pain(gas) for the rest of the day and night, sometimes into the next day. This gas would not release, it just caused extreme pain in my abdomen. I couldn't eat, I could hardly drink anything. They only way I was comfortable was to stretch out on my bed with my head raised slightly and sleeping was terrible.
This all happened some time last year and the year prior. I always used the closed machine.

Now, I went to a different place and they have newer machines. And I haven't had one problem. I can eat the same day, I can drink, I don't have pain and I release out a lot more with the newer model closed machine.
I also tried the open Libbe machine for the first time ever and I thought I wouldn't like it, but it was less invasive and I've been using it ever since.

I also found it easier to move through all the emotional 'baggage' that lies within the colon, part of the ease with that is readiness, a really great colon-hydro therapist and also the machine. I had a full set of 12 sessions, personal choice for me, my intuition said it was time and this was the way for me to cleanse.

Anyway, if you want to chat about it more or have any other questions, let me know!

[BeingK8]

Oh I do!
I'm very intrigued about the emotional baggage part. This has really piqued my interest of late - the whole connection between emotions and things that, conventionally, are not thought of as being associated with emotions, like the colon.
Do tell!!! Please. :D

[rawnhealthy]

Recently, as I mentioned, I went through a series of 12 colonics. During almost every session, there was a point at which I was suddenly struck by a particular feeling- usually anger, sometimes I would suddenly remember something from the past that I thought I was 'over' but I found myself talking about it as if it happened yesterday. Then each day when I would return home, I spent the rest of the day in a 'resting' period. I could feel the old energies drifting away from me and I would usually wake up the next day feeling lighter, happier and in fact resolved about certain aspects of my past. I noticed through the 12 sessions that my thoughts about life, about myself, about my future were shifting to be clearer and more positive...not fake positive...but actually feeling positive. I felt more capable and all the thoughts that had weighed me down, no longer mattered.

I pulled these two pieces that really helped me understand our body and emotions. The first is from Greek Medicine:
Colon: "Since the balanced, proper action of black bile is important to proper colon function, the colon is very vulnerable to aggravations and excesses of the Melancholic emotions - especially chronic or deeply held worry, anxiety and nervous or emotional stress and tension. Security issues and deep insecurities will also impact negatively on the colon, since its functioning is intimately connected with the Root Center, or chakra, which pertains to our emotional security. These Melancholic emotional disturbances usually produce disorders like constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, or spastic colon, but if the aggravation is severe, even colitis and more serious degenerative diseases may result."

The other is from Dr. Richard Anderson of Arise and Shine Colon Cleanse. This is just a piece of one of his articles, but I pulled the part that I found most helpful:

"Many people, after completing a cleanse, feel energized, uplifted, and freed of old patterns, thoughts, feelings, and memories that have held them back. When a person is on a course of personal growth and wants to change their consciousness but is stuck in old negative patterns of thinking and feeling, there is nothing that will get them unstuck and change them faster than a colon cleanse.

In my observation of many individuals doing the colon cleanse, a negative state of consciousness is often, at an energy level, at the root of whatever physical problem they suffer from. Every thought or feeling we have has the potential of moving from the mind into the physical structure of the body where it can provoke illness. I estimate that about 70% of those doing the intensive colon cleanse will experience long-forgotten memories and buried emotions."

Happy to hear or share more. Hope this helps:heart

[walnutty]

I had my first colonic tonight at a place in Scottsdale. It was quite painful...

I was told they get easier...............?

[MysticTree]

I had my first colonic tonight at a place in Scottsdale. It was quite painful...

I was told they get easier...............?
I'm sure it shouldn't be painful :(

[ReneeH]

I had my first colonic tonight at a place in Scottsdale. It was quite painful...

I was told they get easier...............?

Ok...now I'm really scared!!!! I had scheduled one earlier this year, but chickened out!!! I still wanna do it at some point, though... I've been raw too long not to clean out...I think it's time. But now I'm scared again!!!!

[Living Food]

Colonics should not be painful. What kind did you get?

If you do enemas on a regular basis for a while beforehand then it should ease the discomfort of a colonic.

[walnutty]

It was a closed system. It was not a gravitational system. It felt very much like natural birth labor. It was very intense. The colon hydrotherapist I went to has been doing this for over 20 years and the place I went to is owned and run by a couple that are raw and run the Raw Spirit Festival in Sedona every year. I was explained that what I experienced was very, very normal. In fact, it was completely described to me before hand what would happen, what I would feel and also about the pain. That the pain should not go over a 7 on a scale of 1 - 10 or over the worst menstrual cramps I have ever had. It got close. I don't mean to scare anyone. I just wish I had been prepared better myself. All I have ever heard was it makes you feel so much better and can even leave one feeling euphoric. I have never read anything about pain, discomfort or that you can actually feel worse for awhile due to the fact that the colon is now ready to be dumped into by your system creating more detox symptoms.

As far as the day after, my whole back and whole tummy area feels bruised, exactly how I felt after birthing my son 22 years ago. I have a horrible neck ache and head ache. Energy wise I feel the same. I was told that to do a thorough cleaning I should have a colonic three days in a row the first time. I couldn't afford that. I opted to do it the one time because I have been raw again for 2 weeks and have been deathly ill with detox symptoms.

I will post if things improve and what the improvements are.

[MysticTree]

I don't care how long they've been doing it. If it hurts that much then there is something the matter with how they are doing it. I don't think colonics is a sensible practice anyway and this story doesn't do anything to change my mind. I hope you feel better very, very soon xx

[walnutty]

Update:

I feel really calm and focused. The pain has almost completely dissipated. I have had 3 bowel movements since the colonic so I know everything is working well.

[Living Food]

I should rephrase that - colonics shouldn't be painful, per se, but they can lead to quite a bit of cramping.

Having one colonic might make you feel better, but it generally doesn't make much of a difference for most people, you need to do quite a few before you notice major improvements. Unfortunately, they are quite expensive and having one is better then none if you can't afford more, you just won't get the same benefit.

[walnutty]

Update:

I had an AMAZING day yesterday! Lots of energy and no nausea from raw food (which I had been having).

[walnutty]

Groupon has a great deal on two colonics, so I purchased them. I'm going to try again! :wow:

[MysticTree]

I admire your persistence even if I just don't get the whole colonics reasoning! I hope these are not painful. I can understand that afterwards you might get some discomfort but I really don't think the process itself should be comparable with child birth unless your labours were so incredibly pain-free as to be a breeze!

[walnutty]

Oh, no, my labor was hard and intense due to being induced and I also had no pain killers during labor. That being said the whole belly, abdomen and back cramping that took place during my colonic session was pretty painful. The colonic did not have the "heat" that labor did, but the cramping the colonic brought on was pretty close.

I actually am re-thinking the colonic. I am now constipated. I'm not sure what I am going to do, meaning I don't know if I will follow through with the colonic or not.

[MysticTree]

Sounds to me as though the process has interrupted your body, unsettled it and then left your body to figure it out by itself. I hope you are feeling better really soon.

[walnutty]

Thank you, Georgina!

[Living Food]

Sounds to me as though the process has interrupted your body, unsettled it and then left your body to figure it out by itself. I hope you are feeling better really soon.

Sounds to me that it has softened up some of old the fecal matter in there and partially detached it from adhering to the colon walls, and now it's stuck between the "stuck in there" phase and the "ready to come out" phase and needs an extra push...but everyone needs to make their own interpretation.

I know lots of people who've gotten colonics and I might have had a few myself, so I'm pretty sure when I say that just getting 1 colonic in kind of like going on a juice fast for a few days then going straight back to SAD food - in the juice fasting scenario, you'd probably get a pretty nasty detox reaction, but instead of sticking with it you quit and that makes things worse. A single colonic will partially hydrate all of the old, dehydrated fecal matter in your colon and slightly loosen it from the walls, but isn't enough to make it easy to pass - it just gets it stuck in your system (sometimes). That sounds like what happened to you, walnutty.

Still, if the colonic was very uncomfortable it might be better for you to go on an enema routine instead for a while, and that should fix the constipation to.

Doing something half-way almost always has repercussions, and it's actually a pretty common occurence for people to get constipated while trying to cleanse their colons; the problem only arises when they stop there ,with a backed-up system.

[MysticTree]

I don't believe that stuff gets stuck to the inside of the gut and dehydrates. It's the sort of thing that would be interesting if it were investigated at a number of autopsies.

[walnutty]

I don't believe that stuff gets stuck to the inside of the gut and dehydrates. It's the sort of thing that would be interesting if it were investigated at a number of autopsies.

I so agree! I would love to know definitively that colonics help a person. In my honest opinion, I believe God created our bodies to heal themselves if we treat it right. The thing is, I haven't always treated it right and I have a background of IBS. So, I thought it would help. I still don't know what I am going to do come next Friday and the next colonic appointment.

[MysticTree]

I haven't always treated it right but then I don't believe in God. I think a lot of this raw food stuff is totally over-thought. If you feel good eating raw, does it matter why? But I digress :)

[walnutty]

My constipation has been resolved as I have had 7 bowel movements in the past 24 hours.

I feel really, really good today! :excited:

[MysticTree]

I'm glad you feel better.

[Mom4herkids]

Has anyone used Bentonnite Clay for colon therapy? I'm using it to ease my side effects of being a new rawist. I'm day 5 and have had very little side effects.

[walnutty]

Has anyone used Bentonnite Clay for colon therapy? I'm using it to ease my side effects of being a new rawist. I'm day 5 and have had very little side effects.


I have tried it, but it just clogged me up, which I believe is a very dangerous situation to be in!

[SunshineMN]

I used to use Bentonnite clay. It helps collect toxins and takes them out of your system. I haven't found my bag since we moved. We need to finish unpacking so I can start using it again! I never had any problems taking it, but I used to mix it with at least 12 oz of water, and I drink plenty of fluids during the day.

[walnutty]

I have decided to get the colonic, if for no other reason than to see if this time is easier.

[Mom4herkids]

I did a whole body mask with bentonnite clay mixed with Epsom salt and wow did it help ease the symptoms of detox. Head to feet covered in the clay salt combo made for an amazing toxin remover.

[Living Food]

Bentonite clay is very good for removing toxins, but it will "back you up" if you aren't careful. Many people take it with plenty of water ad then take some sort of fiber supplement or natural laxative to help move things along. The clay is great for grabbing toxins, but that's only half the process; the other half is to get them out of your body.

Because of those properties, however, it is quite useful for people with IBS and similar digestive problems because it can "firm up" their stools. Products with mucilage are also very good for that.

[Aleesha Sattva]

Has anyone used Bentonnite Clay for colon therapy? I'm using it to ease my side effects of being a new rawist. I'm day 5 and have had very little side effects.

you should never use the powder if you are going to ingest it. use the pre-mix instead. it can cause blockages if it's not mixed properly and your health is worth the extra little bit it costs to buy it pre-mixed.

[walnutty]

I had my second colonic a few hours ago and it was super easy with no pain! It actually felt really good and I released a TON!!! I have already scheduled my next one! :woot:

[walnutty]

I feel great! I can see how people can get addicted to colon cleansing!

[Living Food]

I feel great! I can see how people can get addicted to colon cleansing!

And people say it's impossible for fecal matter and mucoid plaque to get stuck in your colon...

I'm glad you went for it.

[walnutty]

I had had 10 huge bowel movements in the 24 hours before my appointment all while doing liquid raw to make sure I was uber-hydrated, yet 15 gallons of water was put into me, very slowly, over a 45 minutes period and I watched as 15 gallons of waste appeared to leave. I was flabbergasted and so glad I did it again! I'm hooked!

[walnutty]

I had a constipation problem again, which I am NOT happy about! It has happened after both colonics on the 3rd & 4th day after the colonic. Any advice?

[MysticTree]

I had a constipation problem again, which I am NOT happy about! It has happened after both colonics on the 3rd & 4th day after the colonic. Any advice?If you have been having slow transit then you might find it is related to that transit time/cycle. Was it you who we discussed transit times with and used beets as a marker?

[walnutty]

If you have been having slow transit then you might find it is related to that transit time/cycle. Was it you who we discussed transit times with and used beets as a marker?


No, it wasn't me.

[walnutty]

My 3rd colonic went very well. No pain and a ton of matter released!

[MysticTree]

since you don't say that you are water fasting between treatments, it's not surprising stuff is coming out; you are putting stuff in :)

[walnutty]

since you don't say that you are water fasting between treatments, it's not surprising stuff is coming out; you are putting stuff in :)


No, I am not water fasting but I do do only liquids for 48 hours before.

All 3 times I have had a colonic I have had 10-12 bowel movements in the 24 hours prior, so, to me, it was SHOCKING how much came out of me!!!

Also, I have had a 5-7 pound weight loss with each colonic!

[Living Food]

Also, I have had a 5-7 pound weight loss with each colonic!

Not uncommon...and to think it's mostly fecal matter! :eek:

That's why cleansing, colonics, and enemas are so important - you may never know it's there (unless you do the above), but it negatively impacts your health every minute of every day.

Many people have had various different health conditions (some severe) "miraculously" go away solely through cleansing the colon. The old saying "Death begins in the colon" is very true, and so is the reverse..."Health begins in the colon".

[walnutty]

Today is the 3rd day after my last colonic and so far no constipation. Thank goodness!

[MysticTree]

How is it going? Sometimes I feel like I should try colonics even though I really don't think it's natural or a good idea ... part of me thinks that I should try it so my opinion is more "informed". I can't afford it at the moment though!

[walnutty]

Ha ha ha...I was just coming to update this post when I saw yours MT!

I actually experienced no constipation on the 3rd & 4th day (Mon & Tues this week) as I did on the first two colonics.

I am really happy about that as I believe constipation is very dangerous!

I have 2 more colonics scheduled with my Groupon (I don't know if Groupon is in the UK, but you save a ton of money using them!).

I purchased a large enema bag to use gravity style and am going to start using it also.

I feel good, am losing weight and have ditched several medications and today is only day 34 of raw! :woot:

[MysticTree]

Good news! Yes we have groupon. There's rarely anything I want on it though.

[walnutty]

Darn! This time I was hit with constipation on the 5th & 6th day after my last colonic. I wish I could better understand this...............

[MysticTree]

Maybe it will get further and further from the colonic until you don't get it at all. That supposes that you'll continue with them I guess. Have you asked the person who gives the colonics or anyone who is well versed in these things?

[walnutty]

Yes, I am hoping so too!

The colon hydrotherapist I have been seeing with my Groupon is very young and is not a raw foodist. She did say that it was obvious I was going through detox (because of my symptoms).

I have two more with my current Groupon, so I will just see what happens with them....I guess.

[MysticTree]

I am wary of everything being attributed to detox. It always seems a bit ethereal.

[walnutty]

Colonic #4 in an hour! I am water fasting this time and looking forward to some serious cleansing!!!

[MysticTree]

I hope it goes well. It did occur to me that it might be the fasting that is causing/contributing to the constipation.

[walnutty]

Well, it didn't happen. I showed up for my appointment and they were having plumbing problems. I wasn't too happy since I was water fasting, but life goes on! Ü

[MysticTree]

plumbing problems ... snigger!

Sorry that you didn't get your treatment though.

[walnutty]

"snigger"...

How cute! Love that! Made me laugh!

[walnutty]

Had my 4th colonic last night.

I guess I had a lot of assumptions, because when I started asking questions during the colonic I was NOT happy with the answers!

I always thought that a colon hydrotherapist used A LOT of water to hydrate the colon and then it was all sucked out which would leave the colon very clean.

WRONG!!!

I found out last night that a lot of water is used (10-15 gallons) but only a cup at a time! WTH???

8 oz. of water in and then suction? Why is that SO different then giving yourself an enema over and over again???

The cost of a colonic is SUBSTANTIALLY higher then a bunch of enemas, especially if you OWN an enema bag!!!

I was in SHOCK!!!

I assumed what a colon hydrotherapist did was SO MUCH BETTER than what you could do for yourself.

I was OBVIOUSLY very WRONG and feel VERY CHEATED!!!

I will not be going back.

Instead I will start using my ($10) gravitational enema bag.

GEEZ!!!

[MysticTree]

See how the two compare and stick with whichever you like best. I think colonics has always been about trendy money extraction from the client but everyone knows what a cynic I am. I am sorry you have been disallusioned.

[walnutty]

I'm quite the cynic too...well, maybe more of a realist! The money aspect is a big concern to me. I even got these past 4 colonics for $25 each (which is very inexpensive), but if I can do it at home for just the cost of really good water then I will be doing that!

I'll update in the near future....

[MysticTree]

How long does each colonic last and what does it usually cost? Here I have seen prices starting at about £90 which seems crazy high and as far as I can tell there is no regulation here. Anyone could set themselves up as a practitioner. Also, how do you know what quality of water they are using?

[walnutty]

Each colonic lasts 30 minutes, which actually doesn't add up. They cost $25 each, but that's because I got a good deal through Groupon. They are normally $70-$150 each. I don't have that kind of dough, so it's gravity and enemas for me from now on!

In the US they are required to be certified. There are special schools and several schools in my area. I have seen the certification of the colon hydrotherapist I have been seeing. I just can't believe how much it costs! Crazy!!!

[MysticTree]

Good luck with the new regime. I will check out the regulation requirement here in case I am wrong.