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Hopandskip
02-11-2011, 10:52 PM
hello Everyone!

I am on day 18 of the Master Cleanse. This is the first time I've done it fully though I've done some partial Cleanses from time to time.

So I have a question. I am on day 18 and my tongue still has a white coating on it. I'd like to go until it's pink...but normally I'm only 100lbs soaking wet and I'm down to 92 1/2 pounds. I have 4 little ones that I am working with all day so I can't seem to get more than 8 or 9 drinks in.

Any opinions on...is it worth it to go until my tongue is pink? How long has it taken some of you if you gone on this cleanse?

I'm 5'2"...so how much more weight can I risk loosing? Down to 90? I feel like I'm going to look like a stick.

On the other hand...what if a pink tongue is just days away and I quit now? I feel like I might have just wasted a whole excruciating 18 days.

Any ideas for teeth sensitivity? I'm using Thieves essential oil and PanAway essential oil blends and that is helping some.

Tom Woloshyn's, whose books I love on the Master cleanse said I could take enzymes along with it to move it faster...so I am. I am also taking Oregano, Thyme and Thieves essential oils and now and then some Juniper to help the kidney's. I may do some Orange oil tonight as well to dissolve any errant petrochemicals that are keeping me stuck.

Contrary to the way I did it last time where I added some juices (like beat/spinich/celery/garlic/turnip) and oat bran at night...which was the way Dr. Horowitz liked to do it...and I wasn't really overly hungry...I am starving all the time this time! Boo hoo. I know it's all worth it...but ohhh the smells! :0)

I look forward to any of your comments and suggestions!

HopandSkip:excited:

ReneeH
02-12-2011, 06:49 AM
I am on day 18 of the Master Cleanse. This is the first time I've done it fully though I've done some partial Cleanses from time to time.

First of all, CONGRATULATIONS on 18 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheer: I've also done 18 days and I know its an amazing accomplishment!!!!!


So I have a question. I am on day 18 and my tongue still has a white coating on it. I'd like to go until it's pink...but normally I'm only 100lbs soaking wet and I'm down to 92 1/2 pounds. I have 4 little ones that I am working with all day so I can't seem to get more than 8 or 9 drinks in.

Any opinions on...is it worth it to go until my tongue is pink? How long has it taken some of you if you gone on this cleanse?


Wow! Most people lose 1-2 pounds a day, so the fact that you've only lost 8 is probably a good thing. I'm actually concerned about your Caloric intake. I have the book The Master Cleanser by Stanley Burroughs. In the book he says:

"For those who are underweight, more Maple Syrup may be taken. For those who are underweight and worried about losing more weight, REMEMBER, the only things you can possibly lose are mucus, waste, and disease. Healthy tissue will not be eliminated. Many people who need to gain weight actually do so near the end of the diet period."


On the other hand...what if a pink tongue is just days away and I quit now? I feel like I might have just wasted a whole excruciating 18 days.

Since every BODY is different, I'm not sure about your tongue. Maybe Aleesha would be better to answer that question, although she hasn't done this perticular fast and is not a fan of it.... When I did my 18 days, I didn't even think to look at my tongue, so I don't know if mine turned white or not... I guess I should have looked!!!! :o


Tom Woloshyn's, whose books I love on the Master cleanse said I could take enzymes along with it to move it faster...so I am. I am also taking Oregano, Thyme and Thieves essential oils and now and then some Juniper to help the kidney's. I may do some Orange oil tonight as well to dissolve any errant petrochemicals that are keeping me stuck.

I've never read his books, but Stanley Burroughs is the one who invented the fast. He says:

"Should I take "Supplements"?

Some people want to take vitamin pills or food supplements while on the diet. This frequently fails to produce the desired result. There are many reasons. As the lymphatic glands become clogged, they are no longer able to assimilate and digest even the best of foods. As we cleanse our bodies and free our cells and glands of toxins that clog and paralyze our assimilation, we free our various organs and processes to do their proper job. ALL THE NECESSARY VITAMINS AND MINERALS ARE IN THE LEMONADE, AND THEREFORE WE DO NOT NEED AN ADDITIONAL SUPPLY IN MOST CASES."

This may be where your problem lies. According to Mr. Burroughs, ONLY the Lemonade should be consumed on the fast. The diet has all of the nutrition needed during this time. Have you tried increasing the amount of Maple Syrup, which will increase your Caloric intake?

Mr. Burroughs concludes the part about Supplements by saying:

"The natural iron, copper, calcium, carbon, and hydrogen found in the sweetening supplies more building and cleansing material. It truly is a perfect combination for cleansing, eliminating, healing, and building. Hence, supplements are NOT needed during the diet and may actually interfere with its cleansing action."

So, if I were you, I'd stop taking any supplements and increase the Maple Syrup. Let us know how this change affects your weight loss! :hug

Hopandskip
02-12-2011, 12:16 PM
Thanks Renee!

Yes, I have Stanley's book. I am doing more maple syrup than most...maybe I need to add still more! :0) I did gain 1/2 pound yesterday so maybe that means I'm towards the end! Whoo hoo!

I agree with Stanley on some things, and then on others I am open to hearing different points of view well. Like his view on honey I do not agree with as a general rule.

Tom's been teaching the Master Cleanse and other cleanses for I think over 20/30 years, so he has some very valid points and helps point people to the mistakes many make (like trying to juice everything for a week in one day...which defeats the purpose of having the fresh enzymes), what might be hardest which days, and some questions that are just not answered in Stanley's book, etc. I've found him to be very balanced. :0) He's pretty cautious about what you can do on the cleanse so I do trust him on the question of enzymes during it. He said no to bentonite powder and no to the iodine I wanted to take during it. No to even some of the supplents I wanted to take of essential oils because they had coconut oil in them.

I made two of my friends read his first book as well as Stanley's book before they did the cleanse and they both had great success on 14/15 day cleanses. (Just thought I'd throw in my little two cents of support for him there.) http://themastercleanse.org/ He's been an invaluable support to many many people and a liver saver to many as well. :0)

I so appreciate your encouagement Renee. I needed to be reminded about not worrying about losing weight and that I may gain some back at the end...and to add yet more maple syrup to my mix! :0) What a lovely community of support of this is! And bless you for typing all that in for in! So did you go for 18 or did you do longer? Have you done more than one?

Bless you!

miaculpa
02-17-2011, 05:48 PM
hello Everyone!

I am on day 18 of the Master Cleanse. This is the first time I've done it fully though I've done some partial Cleanses from time to time.

So I have a question. I am on day 18 and my tongue still has a white coating on it. I'd like to go until it's pink...but normally I'm only 100lbs soaking wet and I'm down to 92 1/2 pounds. I have 4 little ones that I am working with all day so I can't seem to get more than 8 or 9 drinks in.

Any opinions on...is it worth it to go until my tongue is pink? How long has it taken some of you if you gone on this cleanse?

I'm 5'2"...so how much more weight can I risk loosing? Down to 90? I feel like I'm going to look like a stick.

On the other hand...what if a pink tongue is just days away and I quit now? I feel like I might have just wasted a whole excruciating 18 days.

Any ideas for teeth sensitivity? I'm using Thieves essential oil and PanAway essential oil blends and that is helping some.

Tom Woloshyn's, whose books I love on the Master cleanse said I could take enzymes along with it to move it faster...so I am. I am also taking Oregano, Thyme and Thieves essential oils and now and then some Juniper to help the kidney's. I may do some Orange oil tonight as well to dissolve any errant petrochemicals that are keeping me stuck.

Contrary to the way I did it last time where I added some juices (like beat/spinich/celery/garlic/turnip) and oat bran at night...which was the way Dr. Horowitz liked to do it...and I wasn't really overly hungry...I am starving all the time this time! Boo hoo. I know it's all worth it...but ohhh the smells! :0)

I look forward to any of your comments and suggestions!

HopandSkip:excited:

I would begin oil pulling if I were you, in addition to the MC and start transitioning to raw. Oil pulling will make your mouth VERY healthy and continue the detox while you eat clean. At your weight, I wouldn't advise more loss.

Aleesha Sattva
02-17-2011, 10:23 PM
i missed this thread... probably because it's titled MC and i know nothing about this one so i don't give out advice.

but i do know about white tongues and here's what i believe.

i believe that the white tongue comes and goes and comes and goes... at least it did during my 209 day fast. had i waited until it cleared... i never would have eaten again LOL

so... i don't let the colour of my tongue dictate when i'll break a fast. i let ME dictate that. i also don't break my fast today... i make myself wait a day or two or four... and if i still want to break it. i make a plan to do so and then carry it out. (unless i change my mind at the last minute which has happened many times).

also if i break my fast and within a short time decide i didn't really want to, i simply continue on.

hope this helps. :hug

Aleesha Sattva
02-17-2011, 10:24 PM
and renee... great advice in your post... i learned heaps. thank you! (((hugs)))

miaculpa
02-18-2011, 04:14 AM
i missed this thread... probably because it's titled MC and i know nothing about this one so i don't give out advice.

but i do know about white tongues and here's what i believe.

i believe that the white tongue comes and goes and comes and goes... at least it did during my 209 day fast. had i waited until it cleared... i never would have eaten again LOL

so... i don't let the colour of my tongue dictate when i'll break a fast. i let ME dictate that. i also don't break my fast today... i make myself wait a day or two or four... and if i still want to break it. i make a plan to do so and then carry it out. (unless i change my mind at the last minute which has happened many times).

also if i break my fast and within a short time decide i didn't really want to, i simply continue on.

hope this helps. :hug


PERFECT ADVICE, Aleesha!!! Honestly, even the Hallowed Stanley Burrough's and his 'rules' aren't set in stone. Listen to your body. Don't beat yourself up or focus on one thing. Do other things with your fast... and like Aleesha said, if you fall and skin your knee... just get back up and keep on keepin on!! :)

Let your body guide you, your inner gut. It works out...

(and if it doesn't, sometimes that's good, too... there's a reason for all of it :)

XO

miaculpa
02-18-2011, 04:21 AM
I worry the most about her weight being too low for her height at this point. I am generally not the most cautious about stuff like weight, but my gut tells me that it may be too much for her to go any lower. IDK, just my 2 cents...

ReneeH
02-18-2011, 07:53 AM
and renee... great advice in your post... i learned heaps. thank you! (((hugs)))

Thanks Aleesha!!!!! And, thanks for the "poke"!!!!!! ;)

ReneeH
02-18-2011, 08:13 AM
Honestly, even the Hallowed Stanley Burrough's and his 'rules' aren't set in stone. Listen to your body. Don't beat yourself up or focus on one thing. Do other things with your fast...

First of all, I do not "hallow" Stanley Burroughs. I respect his opinion the same way that respect Alissa's. He's one expert in a pool of experts. What he says makes sense to me.

Yea, don't beat yourself up about it...fasting is supposed to be a time for meditation/peace! But, I think when you're taking advice from too many different sources it can confuse you. Yea, listen to your body, but she may not really recognize what her body really needs....she may think she needs supplements, when actually she should avoid them.

I do wish you success on your fast! Fasting is hard enough without getting confused about how to do it! My advise is follow 1 method until you know what your body really needs on a fast.

Aleesha Sattva
02-18-2011, 10:26 AM
I do wish you success on your fast! Fasting is hard enough without getting confused about how to do it! My advise is follow 1 method until you know what your body really needs on a fast.

I 100% agree with this to a limit...

You need to make sure the advice you are following is sound!

and since many people have successfully done the MC and that's what you are choosing to do... I would stick with the advice Renee is gifting you.

:hug

Aleesha Sattva
02-18-2011, 10:28 AM
I'm 5'2"...so how much more weight can I risk loosing? Down to 90? I feel like I'm going to look like a stick.


i'm not concerned about your weight... are you? cause that's the real question. you live in your body... you know if you are getting too thin.

have you looked at your entire body naked in the mirror? can you see your spine?

what does your partner say? ask them... have them check you out. cause you can always stop fasting and start again another time. there is no rush here... :meditating:

every day fasting is considered 120 days of health... so you've gifted your self 2160 days of health! that's over 5.5 years of health!!!

how can you ever consider that a waste? :hug