View Full Version : LIBIDO (sexual in nature)
moorsie32
10-07-2005, 09:42 PM
ok raw males out there, somebody had to bring this up. In every raw or vegan group of guys there is always one question ligering just under the surface of conversation...."is everybody able to...you know....like they used to?". I know from personal experience that when I am eating meat I am able to "step up to the plate" easier and more often than when I am not. I have recently went straight raw vegan (100%) and am again seeing a decline in performance in that area. Does this come back around to normal, or even perhaps improve *crosses fingers*? Sorry to bring this up everyone but I feel it is a very legitimate concern. Cheers!
rawpriestess
10-07-2005, 09:46 PM
Well, I can tell you from a woman's point of view about my hubby.
When we met he was a SAD meat eater, he is tall and thin, and very agile and viril and rugged, etc. a real Manly Man.
Well, he is about 95% raw, and it has only increased his libido and performance and stamina.
I am a happy woman, with NO complaints.
If that helps at all.
I know that Todd mentioned once in a post, that he is now a 40 something experienced male with a 20 something sexual appetite. or something like that.
MoniDew
10-07-2005, 11:17 PM
I'm going to be eavesdropping on this topic because I also have very little/no libido whatsoever, but mine seems unrelated to raw. I'd like some help in this regard as well. Ladies...? any ideas...?
rawpriestess
10-07-2005, 11:47 PM
Is it emotional or physical?
When I feel fat, I have much less libido, because of my own inner feelings of guilt and rage at myself, luckily my hubby thinks I am the most beautiful goddess in the world, no matter what size I am.
When I am eating raw and feeling good about myself, I have much more interest in sex.
I also notice that certain foods can help me be more amorous or less, such as, if I am eating any kind of wheat or grains, less interested in sex, if I am eating lots more fruits and veggies alot more interest in sex.
And if I am tired, or stressed, less interest in sex.
Hope this helps.
MoniDew
10-07-2005, 11:54 PM
Oh, it's likely both. I've had a hysterectomy, a dozen years ago, and immediately suffered the consequences (used to have a high sex drive, pre-hyst.) Also, I've never been in love with hubby - I love him and he is a good man - but not in love. So this aspect has always been quite a struggle. 26 years, 4 kids, 8 grandkids so far, very long term relationship...but never had that zing for him. At this point, I'd like to have a little zing...even if I have no one in particular to direct it toward. :p
LNdolls
10-08-2005, 03:29 AM
From what I have read of healing with foods - vegan and otherwise - detox is a process where you go back to square one and rebuild essentially with all new supplies. So it would make sense that you might 'regress' to a more innocent, less sexual time for a while, before regaining ground and perhaps becoming even more of an athlete in that area... grin
Best,
LN
Ariannah
10-08-2005, 06:24 AM
Maca - tastes unpleasant but it works ;)
tglasco4
10-08-2005, 08:10 AM
I am definitely on a much higher level in this area than pre-raw. But also I noticed that I am more aware of overdoing it. I believe in temperance in all things and while I am capable of performing at a high level daily, I don't do it daily. Maybe its my age (44) but I want to channel that energy into other things as well. But to answer your question moorsie, it will definitely get better once you get over the initial detox period (about 8 weeks). Then you will definitely feel a surge of energy. I used to take amino acids on a regular basis but since I have been raw I don't use any supplements whatsoever but my body feels like I do. You will be fine bro.
Peace.
Todd
Was pretty good before and still the same now (I am 57).
As I see it (on a physical level), sexual efficacy may be related to the following, in varying degrees:
Venous health, general stamina, nourishment of the sexual organs and raw materials for...well, you know what for.
Venous health - do you consume reasonable amounts of citrus and berry fruits? They are each crammed with valuable phytonutrients which support a healthy venous system, and this is obviously absolutely VITAL to a man's 'proper functioning' in bed! ;)
General stamina - are you getting enough calories? (not as daft as it sounds - it's actually surprisingly easy to short-change oneself on a raw diet).
Also, do you have good digestive health to get decent absorption of nutrients from the food you ingest?
Nourishment of the sexual organs + raw materials
Are you getting plenty of zinc?
...and are you getting plenty of the B vitamins (esp. B12, which is related to fertility)? The B vitamins have an incredibly wide-ranging effect on the body, encompassing not only the physical but also the psychological, which, as you know, can also have profound influence on one's 'performance'. B12 aside, it is possible to get the other B-vitamins in adequate amounts in a raw vegan diet, but you should still take care to structure your diet to some extent or you may actually fall short of your ideal B-vitamin intake.
EFAs are also extremely important for the sexual organs. Lack EFAs in your diet and S-P is certainly one area where this will be apparent. Yet another reason, aside form the zinc content, why pumpkin seeds are a good inclusion in the diet.
When considering quantities of the various nutrients to include in your daily diet, do bear in mind that each time you make love the body will lose nutrients, so these must be accounted for in your calculations - for example, I read somewhere that zinc may be lost at the rate of nearly 5mg EACH TIME you make love.
Lastly, good exercise levels will obviously greatly influence both circulation and stamina levels. I must admit that I need to increase my daily exercise as I've been quite sedentary of late.
Personally I can't say I've noticed any difference, for better or worse, in my libido, since I began eating high-percentage raw.
J.
Arky,
Are you a man or woman?
In general I thought the quetion was for the raw man.
lol - I am a man. I am curious as to what you saw in my above post that led you to ask that?
J.
sweetgoddess
10-08-2005, 12:45 PM
oh, oh, Arky, can I guess? Can I guess?
It is because you said "make love" :p
and/or because you speak so eloquently. Are you British?
rawpriestess
10-08-2005, 01:20 PM
Sweetgoddess, I want to guess too:
I'm guessing it is because Arky said "a man's proper functioning in bed" not to "our" etc. That is my guess.
Well, if that's what I get for trying to be tactful in the presence of the ladies, I won't bother in future!! :mad:
lol - just kidding. I find this all very amusing - it gives an interesting insight into the minds of my fellow members! :D
With regard to "making love", I was trying not only to be tactful but also to give Moorsie32 the benefit of the doubt, in so much as assuming he loves the women (or men!) he chooses to share his libido with!
...and, Sweetgoddess, you know very well what my nationality is! ;) I suppose Shakespeare might, euphemistically, have referred to 'making love' as 'jousting'...
J.
sweetgoddess
10-08-2005, 02:40 PM
haha, well there, you see thats why.
But please dont change- I personally ADORE it!
You all have a bit of that streak of Prince Charmingness that we women just eat up! Hmm, are you British? lol
Hey do RP and I win a prize??
"Making Love...Out of nothing at all.." :p ;)
I like Raw, but if I had to choose between the two, I have to admit I'd "Make love not Raw" :D
Prizes? Hmm, well I'm keeping schtum on prizes, after another recent thread on the topic ;)
Let me know if you think of anything you'd like, though, and I'll see what I can do! haha
J.
sweetgoddess
10-08-2005, 03:26 PM
well, see, there you go! Our libidos couldnt be better!! :D
rawpriestess
10-08-2005, 03:50 PM
Oh Arky, PLEASE DON'T CHANGE,
I love your prince charmingness, personally I have grown rather tired of American men.
I've dated a few English, or is that British, anyway from Liverpool, native American (entirely different than American) Peruvian, Canadian (that was fun) Mexican, Hablo espaniol bueno (not), Japanese, (only one, and I was there, dancing and oh so lonely) and Ahhhh (as I remember fondly) those Southern Boys, YESSIREE Billy Bob!!, what gentlemen they were.
One from New York, Or should I say, "the city" and let's see one from Philly, not to be confused with Philedelphia, LOL,
hum, but regular macho American men, Humph!.
My Dragggon, thank Goddess is Part Native American, (the best part) and Celt, Druid (I guess those aren't necessarily countries) English, Bavarian Mountain people, basically he's a Wizard, pure and simple, not any American Macho there at all. (even though he tries to act that way, he's a true softy at heart)
BEWILDERED! :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:
Women...such fickle (but lovely) creatures... lol
J.
sweetgoddess
10-08-2005, 11:13 PM
well humph.
;)
i second the 'detox' explaination... when i'm cleansing, or feeling 'gunked up' i'm deffinitly 'less interested' (then again watching some of the stuff that'll come out of you while your cleansing would put anyone off the idea of 'jousting')
...but once my system's dealt with the 'annoyances'?
ZOUNDS!! EGADS!! AND HAVE AT THEE!!!!
nemo
Rawkinlocs
10-09-2005, 08:44 PM
Nemo, I cannot believe you said "jousting"! LMBO!
TimmyC
10-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Why don't we take a survey?
Libido=stronger here then pre-raw.
moorsie32
10-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Good call on the survey TimmyC! I would love to know how raw foods are affecting other folks in this department. Thank you for all the responses, you guys are awesome!
Autumn
10-10-2005, 11:39 AM
<<I would love to know how raw foods are affecting other folks in this department>>
Mine is dead. It died a couple years ago and remains dead. :( I am hoping as I become more raw, and for longer periods without a slip-up, that it will come back. I used to be quite the.....uh.....quite... amorous in my youth. I miss it. :(
Ariannah
10-10-2005, 12:17 PM
Autumn, have you tried maca powder? It's a root vegetable from Peru I believe, and I've been taking it. It's helped take care of the lack of arousal and the dryness, and overall it helps me feel quite good.
I find the taste of it very unpleasant, and I usually take it with dates or something, but it does work.
<<I would love to know how raw foods are affecting other folks in this department>>
Mine is dead. It died a couple years ago and remains dead. :( I am hoping as I become more raw, and for longer periods without a slip-up, that it will come back. I used to be quite the.....uh.....quite... amorous in my youth. I miss it. :(
Not good. Not good at all. ,-)))
MoniDew
10-10-2005, 09:02 PM
Mine is dead. It died a couple years ago and remains dead. :( I am hoping as I become more raw, and for longer periods without a slip-up, that it will come back. I used to be quite the.....uh.....quite... amorous in my youth. I miss it. :(
Yup, Autumn, me too. :(
I took raw maca daily during my last pregnancy to help prevent miscarriage. It did absolutely nothing for me sexually. Good thing thats not what I wanted, it would have been mighty disappointing.
Teri S
Sharon in Colorado
10-10-2005, 09:57 PM
I've read about how eating high fruit helps in that area. Now all of us women should try this (maybe e-mail each other privately with the results as not to attract certain people with names that precede Donald's). What do you think girls?
Autumn
10-10-2005, 11:59 PM
<<Autumn, have you tried maca powder? >>
No, I haven't. Has anyone else besides RawandNatural and Doe? What was your experience?
I have found in the past that if something is really awful tasting, I won't committ to using it, no matter how much I may want experience the results.
Jo-anne
10-11-2005, 12:03 AM
hmmm I just started taking macca in my smoothies to balance my hormones etc......well now this should explain why I jump my dh everytime he gets home from work LMAO ! ;)
okay wayyyyy tooo much info :o
jenna rose
10-11-2005, 01:14 AM
Mine seems to be better now than pre-raw, but being single....I have no one to test this out on.
Ariannah
10-11-2005, 05:13 AM
No, I haven't. Has anyone else besides RawandNatural and Doe? What was your experience?
I have found in the past that if something is really awful tasting, I won't committ to using it, no matter how much I may want experience the results.
I'm getting used to the taste. I still don't care for it. But from all the hoopla all over the place about how it tastes like caramels I expected it to complement dates or something, or taste like a malted milkshake. I later on read that it's when it's cooked that it has that taste. So, I'm just going to have to put up with the taste of it as it is.
It really does help, and I'm usually not one to take "bad medicine" for the effects only. But this makes it worth it. It gives overall energy (not just sexual energy), alertness, and helps with dryness. It is available in capsule form as well for people who don't like the taste, but I have yet to find a non-gelatin source of that. It's not a drug, it's a root vegetable related to the radish family (I think - I could be wrong).
Jamie
10-11-2005, 05:50 AM
As long as I"M raw,, I don't suffer in this area at all.
But I am curious about this maca... because of 2 miscarriages in a row I have learned about hormones being off can cause this loss.. So now I am curious about natural hormones boosters. I heard of a natural progesterone that is a lotion....
any thoughts on this??
Jamie
As long as I"M raw,, I don't suffer in this area at all.
But I am curious about this maca... because of 2 miscarriages in a row I have learned about hormones being off can cause this loss.. So now I am curious about natural hormones boosters. I heard of a natural progesterone that is a lotion....
any thoughts on this??
Jamie
Do you mean this?:
oasisserene.com
J.
calee
10-11-2005, 07:44 AM
I used to take maca in a liquid form from an Amazon Rainforest company. It was called Sumacazone or something like that. I stopped taking that when I bought some maca powder, which I haven't been able to force myself to take. Maybe I'll take it out and start using it, now that some of you are recommending it.
Thanks for bringing up this sensitive subject!
MoniDew
10-11-2005, 08:36 PM
Maca doesn't work for me. I've tried it. I've tried about a half-dozen or so libido formulas from the healthfood store...so far, nothin'. zippo. Even when my husband and I separated for 6 months or so, sex never crossed my mind unless someone else brought up the subject. I just didn't care. (I used to be nearly a nymphomaniac in my younger days.) But post-hysterectomy really screws things up. You just don't have the organs to secrete the hormones. Stimulating non-existant organs to secrete more non-existant hormones is just a waste of good money and good herbs.
To be honest with you all, I really don't care if I ever have sex again. My husband, on the other hand, well let's just say the man is into routine maintenance.
Maca doesn't work for me. I've tried it. I've tried about a half-dozen or so libido formulas from the healthfood store...so far, nothin'. zippo. Even when my husband and I separated for 6 months or so, sex never crossed my mind unless someone else brought up the subject. I just didn't care. (I used to be nearly a nymphomaniac in my younger days.) But post-hysterectomy really screws things up. You just don't have the organs to secrete the hormones. Stimulating non-existant organs to secrete more non-existant hormones is just a waste of good money and good herbs.
To be honest with you all, I really don't care if I ever have sex again. My husband, on the other hand, well let's just say the man is into routine maintenance.
I do not think hysterectomy is an issue (from the guy stand point). I have been with women who had hysterectomy. They were very..."enthusiastic" about sex. Probably it is more mental. I remember years ago Larry King was interviewing ex-wife of DeLorean. I think her name was Farraro (?). So she told she did loose labido, but after taking mild testesterone (sp) treatmetn her labido went through the roof.
I donot think being raw will make any difference.
sweetgoddess
10-12-2005, 09:38 AM
I do not think hysterectomy is an issue (from the guy stand point). Ack. Talk about walking on shaky ground Mak!
I have been with women who had hysterectomy. They were very..."enthusiastic" about sexEvery body is different, so this may have been true of them, but it will not be true for everyone.
I do not think being raw will make any differenceNow there's the spirit! It is not a given, but it certainly is possible. Maybe even probable. As your body cleanses over a period of time and energy and a feeling of vibrancy take root, it is very probable your sexual responses , including the mental/emotional will change, to some degree.
If it's what you want to happen Moni, then believe it with all your heart. The possibility will only increase.
And of course, there are many more departments than physical/biological.
Best wishes!
Carmel
First, As I mentioned, that is my opinion and doesn't have to be approved by you or validated.
Second, raw food lifestyle is not panacea for everything. As you have indicated it is an individual issue. There are many "poluted" women with very healthy labido and vice versa.
Again I just shared my opinion, experience and obsevation.
P.S. The topic started as a raw food men's labido, not women's.
This is a two different things.
sweetgoddess
10-12-2005, 10:54 AM
My intent was not to attack your opinion Mak, so please, do not feel defensive. My first comment was in humour. And the rest of what I said, I said with the intent of letting Moni know that there is always hope and that truly, anything is possible.
A hysterectomy and the resulting physical and emotional challenges it poses for women, is a very delicate subject, requiring tact and empathy.
I am curious about this maca... because of 2 miscarriages in a row I have learned about hormones being off can cause this loss.. So now I am curious about natural hormones boosters. I heard of a natural progesterone that is a lotion....
any thoughts on this??
JamieI got this link from Shazzie's site, women with repeated miscarriages have been helped to carry full term. http://www.totalityofbeing.com/ArchivedIncFertility.html
Teri S
Jamie
10-12-2005, 02:00 PM
Wow Teri,, thanks. That is a great article.
Since I have had 6 healthy pregnancies and babies, I am thinking that it is either just a chormosone thing that happened to happen twice in a row, or a hormone problem with me. I"m only 32 and so it doesn't seem to me that I should be having hormonal imbalances, but I guess it really could be.
I will look into this maca more and where to buy it. Guess the health food store?? Or online.
Thanks again,
Jamie :)
Mine came from here (http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi?id=364431227461&c=Supplements&sc=Maca).
Jamie
10-12-2005, 06:28 PM
Thanks Doe~
I"m gonna have my hubby read the article you shared. I know this month are not trying to concieve due to my now having to have wisdom teeth out in a few weeks.
Thanks again,
Jamie :)
Pepper
10-12-2005, 06:51 PM
It looks like the men have given up on this topic, so I guess I will forgo my post, but it was interesting to read this thread from top to bottom and observe the changes......... Dave
stephbkr
10-12-2005, 09:26 PM
FYI, Maca can be used by MEN and WOMEN BOTH for increasing libido. There is great info about what it is and why it works on www.eatraw.com
I personally love the way it tastes and how it makes me feel aside from the benefits it may contribute to bedroom activities!
Essensual
10-12-2005, 11:51 PM
...for me: solo...not yet "single"--but DITTO! :)
[Honestly...didn't think it was possible... pretty strong to begin with...]
Mine seems to be better now than pre-raw, but being single....I have no one to test this out on.
peruvian-maca.com/ is another well known source.
Personally, I've never tried the stuff :)
J.
Ariannah
10-13-2005, 11:28 AM
Keep in mind that Maca is not really a "supplement" although it's often sold as one. It's a food, really.
Maca is an adaptogen and won't necessarily "boost" everybody. I've found that the maca does help somewhat with sexual arousal and such, but it basically (for some) balances out whatever needs to be balanced out.
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