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Amii
11-23-2010, 08:27 AM
The Student Room is a UK-based forum for school/college/university students that I go on every now and then. I just ran across a thread by a 19 year old guy who was documenting his "water fast".

This being TSR and not RFT or any other health boards, the responses to his post were predictable enough:

"LOL fag, go eat some steak!"
"In to see if OP dies."
"Have you died yet?"
"Don't be so stupid. Just eat less and exercise. Hardly rocket science."

The one that caught my attention the most, though, was:
"If you're doing this for religious reasons then fine, but if it's for weight loss then it's stupid, YOU'LL GAIN IT ALL BACK AND MORE!!"

How dya figure? was my first thought. A water fast is a water fast, and the reasons behind it don't change what it is. Sure, the reasoning could be unhealthy or silly but why are people so threatened by the idea of fasting for weight loss or health? Why is it "fine" to fast for religious reasons but not for weight loss? How come it's suddenly so dangerous when you're weight loss motivated?

(I know, I know.. people think you're more likely to develop an eating disorder, or screw up your metabolism or... maybe there's some other motive to discouraging a fast?)

Now, as the thread progressed, it became more and more clear that not only did the other posters not know what they were talking about - repeatedly telling him that he would gain all the weight back plus some, despite him never saying his fast was weight-loss motivated - but it also became alarmingly clear that the OP was completely uneducated on the subject of fasting, as well.

He was sipping Innocent Smoothies and diet 7-Up throughout the 3 days (he broke yesterday, at the end of day 3, on some crisps or something).

So that's scary in itself but I wanted to add that in for anyone wondering if he did manage to finish the fast.

I was going to message him telling him to ignore the naysayers and to advise him on how to continue properly and safely but as the thread progressed I realised that he was probably safer not fasting at all, just because of his obvious mental state.

But again I am wondering on what you guys think about the reactions to fasting for weight loss. Perhaps the most grating response I've heard to the proposition is the dramatic "I used to fast when I was in the depths of my eating disorder!"

Anyway. What do you think? Thoughts?

PammieTaj
11-23-2010, 09:19 AM
People are threatened by anything that's different. I've taken a lot of heat for not eating flesh, not eating eggs, not consuming dairy any longer. It's really difficult to make these changes and it's difficult to live in a world that doesn't support your lifestyle. You develop a tough skin and live your life. There's no changing other people, only yourself.

Honestly, I've seen a few posts on vegan boards, vegetarian boards, and raw food boards that led me to think that there were folks who were there from the point of view of having an eating disorder. (tip offs being things like, 'I'm 5'6" and weigh 110 pounds and I'm sooooo fat'). I have my own issues with disordered eating, but disordered eating is eating when you aren't hungry and you aren't aiming to fuel your body - and any number of other things. Technically, this coming Thursday (Thanksgiving) in the US, just about everyone is going to have an eating disorder. It's madness.

Is a diet 7up and smoothie fast particularly healthful for three days? No. Is it going to hurt the person doing it? Probably not. Are they going to make the effort to do the research and find out what would be a healthful way to approach a fast? Who knows.

As for the people responding to the thread you discuss? Meh.

Aleesha Sattva
11-23-2010, 09:37 AM
People are threatened by what they don't understand. Period.

And when the person doing it is uneducated... they can't enlighten the people as to the why's and how's of doing it safely and properly.

In my life... people are shocked sometimes when they hear I'm fasting and for how long I'm fasting. Today is day 164 of my fast. But once I explain to them ... they are no longer 'afraid for me'.

You can't expect people to understand something when you don't understand it and can't explain it yourself!

k8sl8
11-23-2010, 09:41 AM
Correct that people are "threatened" if that's the right word... by things they don't know. On the other hand a water fast, unsupervised or uneducated, is probably not the smartest thing in the world. 3 days isn't going to harm most, so don't know why his was a big deal ( I did read that right???).

Alissa doesn't necessarily recommend or support fasting in her books, I don't think; at least I don't remember that when reading. And the fasting, for the most part here in the site, is at least juice fasting so there is nutrition.

Some things will never change. I just try not to tell people I "don't eat this or that". I just do it... Easier that way. My family knows and is mostly supportive, but pretty ignorant.

blizzardfrisbee
11-23-2010, 09:54 AM
I've found too that some people are "threatened" by my changes, some get it and some don't understand. I am working very hard at researching, reading and making sure I understand why I"m doing what I'm doing. I'm getting there too!!

Aleesha Sattva
11-23-2010, 12:24 PM
Alissa does support fasting... hence why she chose to have a section for fasting on this forum. ;)

Revvell
11-23-2010, 12:36 PM
I'm not a guy, I don't have a "thick skin", I just don't care what others think about what I do. I'm a squirrel and I have fur so stuff just slides off me. ;)

What the OP posted was cyber bullying. I'm guessing that these same folk who posted there are bullying others throughout the forum. Most likely they can be reported or ignored.

Give them energy and they continue like any bully.

k8sl8
11-23-2010, 03:38 PM
Alissa does support fasting... hence why she chose to have a section for fasting on this forum. ;)

My statement said she didn't have it in her books.... did I miss it?

Of course she can do anything with HER site that she wants to, lol.

PammieTaj
11-23-2010, 05:57 PM
My statement said she didn't have it in her books.... did I miss it?

Alissa's books are about food preparation. LOL

lovenlife
11-23-2010, 06:08 PM
i'm not a guy, i don't have a "thick skin", i just don't care what others think about what i do. I'm a squirrel and i have fur so stuff just slides off me.

hahahahaha