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Tulips
11-21-2010, 03:44 PM
Hi

Any one know about Manuka honey? Or which brand is good. There are so many out there. I bought Wedderspoon company?

Aleesha Sattva
11-21-2010, 05:42 PM
it's not so much the brand as the number... different numbers do different things.

RawKnitster
11-22-2010, 01:06 PM
The brand I'm using now claims to have an active level of 15+, and also claims less than 1% of manuka honey can make that claim. I don't know what that means. All I know for sure is that to be labeled Manuka honey, it must have a high pollen count, higher than any other honey. I've tried three different brands of manuka. They all seemed the same. Extra special! :)

Aleesha Sattva
11-22-2010, 05:05 PM
we use 15 and it comvita brand

the woman (who has more knowledge than i've ever met in anyone) says it's an excellent brand. we use this for sore throats and throat infections.

lovenlife
11-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Honey has to have a cert number now?....oy vayla boutenko!!! :)

Aleesha Sattva
11-22-2010, 09:18 PM
no bette is not a cert number. it's the rating of what it is as to what it will heal best. you buy the level you need for a particular illness/disease.

queenkel
11-23-2010, 02:19 PM
I use wedderspoon 16+. I don't eat it though, too expensive.

I use it as a face mask for acne and it works soooo well. I still get some acne but this keeps it at mild, as opposed to moderate. I haven't been successfully raw for more than a week or so at a time, but I'm working my way up and I imagine my acne will clear up when I finally get there.

Dimond
11-23-2010, 03:31 PM
Manuka honey is pretty amazing for external healing. It's helped heal a serious wound quickly, leaving no scar and it's healed cuts when nothing else did much.

Tulips, Wedderspoon is a good company.

Basenjimamma
11-23-2010, 08:14 PM
I love Manuka honey..Wedderspoon 16+ and 20+ is in my pantry/medicin cabinet right now. I swear by it for throat and cough issues. I even made homemade nosedrops with it..wonderful usage. The taste is awesome as well. Pricey, yeah maybe, but it is so worth it.

Aleesha Sattva
12-23-2010, 06:00 AM
wanted to share some more info on manuka honey:

http://benefitofmanukahoney.com/tag/medical-grade-manuka-honey/

and

did you know the manuka shrub is also known as tea tree? the bees gather their nectar from this tree and it's really no big surprise at all that it's such a healing honey when you consider how healing tea tree is.

the best level of UMF is between 10-15 - that seems to be the best healing level. but you get different answers depending on the site you are on.

monkapotapus
12-23-2010, 07:09 AM
Interesting info Aleesha - Thanks for sharing!! :)

MsShaSha
07-05-2011, 01:18 AM
Hello, I'm terribly sorry to bring up an old thread, but I'm really hoping for some helpful advice or any input others may be able to give me.


My fiancee has has a wound on the tip of his index finger for some time now, he had been cleaning it regularly with peroxide and switched to diluted rubbing alcohol (unaware at the time that both kill live skin tissue) and the wound began to get worse (widen/deepen).
After some time of the wound not heeling we went into the emergency room only to have every nurse ask a million questions and act as if they haven't seen a wound before. In the end we left with nothing more than a referral to a "general specialist" and the knowledge that he needed a skin graft. We're currently without insurance, and the possibility of coming up with the money a specialist would require is not even an option at the moment.
He began looking for alternatives and came across a great deal of promising information about Manuka Honey.

He has been dressing his wound using "Manuka Health" brand MGO 400+ (which we understand to be equal to UMF 20+) for a little over a month now, while we have noticed a drastic change in the depth of the wound, and the size around (circumference) has shrunk a bit, he has started to become a bit discouraged.... and seeing him in the pain he is in, especially after changing the dressing, is rather hard for me to bear.

I'm hoping for any advice anyone who may have personally used manuka honey for a wound may be able to give. Your changing process? How often? The honey strength? How long it seemed to take to heal for you?

While we've found some "user testimonials" I'm really hoping we may be able to personally communicate with someone who has used this manner of treatment ourselves.

Again, I apologize for bringing up an old thread, but we're a bit desperate for information and I'm unsure of where else to look.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

brydee
07-05-2011, 01:30 AM
Am I right in thinking that Honey is not considered vegan?

I really love honey but read some horrible things that have put me off it, eventually hoping to get my own bees

MysticTree
07-05-2011, 01:35 AM
Hello, I'm terribly sorry to bring up an old thread, but I'm really hoping for some helpful advice or any input others may be able to give me.


My fiancee has has a wound on the tip of his index finger for some time now, he had been cleaning it regularly with peroxide and switched to diluted rubbing alcohol (unaware at the time that both kill live skin tissue) and the wound began to get worse (widen/deepen).
After some time of the wound not heeling we went into the emergency room only to have every nurse ask a million questions and act as if they haven't seen a wound before. In the end we left with nothing more than a referral to a "general specialist" and the knowledge that he needed a skin graft. We're currently without insurance, and the possibility of coming up with the money a specialist would require is not even an option at the moment.
He began looking for alternatives and came across a great deal of promising information about Manuka Honey.

He has been dressing his wound using "Manuka Health" brand MGO 400+ (which we understand to be equal to UMF 20+) for a little over a month now, while we have noticed a drastic change in the depth of the wound, and the size around (circumference) has shrunk a bit, he has started to become a bit discouraged.... and seeing him in the pain he is in, especially after changing the dressing, is rather hard for me to bear.

I'm hoping for any advice anyone who may have personally used manuka honey for a wound may be able to give. Your changing process? How often? The honey strength? How long it seemed to take to heal for you?

While we've found some "user testimonials" I'm really hoping we may be able to personally communicate with someone who has used this manner of treatment ourselves.

Again, I apologize for bringing up an old thread, but we're a bit desperate for information and I'm unsure of where else to look.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

I hope the honey helps but I am sure that what is needed is to find out why he's not healing and address that also. If you can boost his natural healing abilities that will help prevent similar things in the future.

MsShaSha
07-05-2011, 02:31 AM
I hope the honey helps but I am sure that what is needed is to find out why he's not healing and address that also. If you can boost his natural healing abilities that will help prevent similar things in the future.

Thank you MysticTree. His wound is healing now, since he's been using the honey. It just seems to be taking longer than we had expected (from the things we have read about others experience with it, but these were also "user testimonials").
We believe that he was originally not healing from the use of the alcohol (to keep it clean) which was actually killing off live skin cells more than it was helping. :(

Knulp
07-05-2011, 05:28 AM
MsShaSha, I've found few things better for healing wounds, both small and large (short of those needing stitches), than comfrey salve. The one I use is made by Gaia Herbs. I accidentally chopped off the tip of my thumb (including a bit of the nail) years ago while dicing onions, and it all grew back nicely with daily comfrey applications under normal Band-Aid dressings. I use it for less traumatic scrapes and cuts, too.

T-Bird
07-05-2011, 08:22 AM
ms sha sha,

Have you tried aloe vera as well? That is great for healing, making the skin cells renew at an increased level. Also reduces pain on contact. You buy a huge gallon jug - or several plants if you are in a very sunny warm local or have sunny windows.

You could alternate with the honey - or maybe combine?

He could also drink the aloe vera internally to boost healing....

And hopefully he is eating lots of fresh fruits and veggies?

And see a doctor at any sign of things getting worse. I'm assuming this is a pretty deep injury for a finger and that is why he was so concerned about infection? Money isn't everything.

Best of luck.

Comfrey may be an herb to look into as well - although hard to get these days....

MsShaSha
07-09-2011, 11:34 PM
Knulp: Thank you very much for your advice, I have never heard of comfrey salve before but will certainly be looking into it online this evening.

T-Bird: We have not tried aloe vera as of yet, but at this point we're willing to try nearly anything to get his finger to heal.
I have been making sure that he's eating properly and taking a multivitamin daily to help his body have/do everything that it can internally.
There hasn't been any signs of infection, although the Manuka Honey is supposed to aid in keeping any infection at bay.

The wound original took up the entire pad of his index finger... if you were to look at the pad (flesh, not nail) side of your finger and push your thumb into your finger (above the first knuckle)... the entire area that your thumb covers is were the wound was/is. The skin and a mass of tissue/muscle were gone, I would say there was possible mere centimeters before the bone would have been exposed in a small area of the center.
There has been some healing, the "meat" has started to grow back and the depth of the wound is not nearly as deep as it was to begin with.

I suppose I was hoping there may be a few who have used this method for treating a wound who may have some advice, or could share their experience.
It has been a month, a week and a day today since he began this treatment and because the process has been slow he is beginning to become discouraged of it's abilities. And after he changes the dressing and it begins to really hurt, he becomes even more discouraged.

Thank you all so much for your input and advice. I'm off to look up comfrey and aloe, and will check back soon.
Thank you all again. :)

streetsurfer
07-10-2011, 01:27 AM
I first posted another healing method that I thought might help but later noticed you were getting good results from the manuka honey.

CalypsoKris
07-14-2011, 02:09 PM
Ok, so this is a testimonial of sorts as to how incredible manuka is. But it has to do with a horse...
We have a farm and keep 8 horses that we show/compete. One of them somehow got his back leg caught in wire in one of our fields and got a seriously horrific wound. The gash was about 10inches long and literally down to the bone, for a horse... something that big is serious. We immediately had our vet come, and she did give antibiotics etc (you can't mess around too much with horses, they are delicate).
But after that we washed and dressed the wound with manuka honey (and only mauka!) every single day until it healed. It healed in about 3weeks. And didn't get a single infection. Bear in mind this is an animal who lives outdoors, in a field where there are flies, dust etc.
Now, when you look at his leg there is barely even a scar! It's nothing short of miraculous.

We use manuka also on ourselves for colds, sore throats and cuts because we feel we have all the proof we need as to how incredible it is!

MysticTree
07-14-2011, 03:29 PM
I should really try some of this on a place inside my nose which refuses to heal properly. The doctor keeps saying that it should be cauterised and I have been refusing! Result is frequent nose bleeds when I blow my nose or sometimes if I sneeze.

MsShaSha
07-19-2011, 02:09 PM
streetsurfer: Thank you, but yes he's getting good results with the manuka honey.

CalypsoKris: That's amazing!! I must admit I'm a bit jealous you get to work so closely with and have horses, they're beautiful animals! :heart:
And I'm so very happy to read that everything worked out so wonderfully.

MysticTree: I would strongly recommend trying it. Before he began this treatment we spent HOURS researching and found many amazing stories of others who have used it with great results. One I can't forget is a man who had a rather large gash on his arm, after 3 skin grafts that wouldn't take (coming off within 24hrs) the doctors weren't sure of what to do, he started using the manuka honey daily and it healed!
Plus there isn't many other treatments that will give you a sweet smell in your nose. hehehee.


--- An Update ---
After using "Manuka Health" brand MGO 400+ (which we understand to be equal to UMF 20+) he finally agreed to switch to the MGO 250+ (which is about a UMF 16+, the recommended level for wound treatment) the pain has subsided greatly, while there is still some pain after changing (which doesn't happen every time, and I believe may be from certain areas healing and receiving the honey) we have started to see even greater results.
More than half of the wound is now back to normal level (filled in) and the size of the wound has shrink by about a third. So we're seeing even greater results now and he has finally gotten back the confidence that the treatment is working. :woot:

I'm thinking that the stronger honey may have been a bit of an over kill, while working slowly it may have been causing more of a shock than anything (Silly boys, thinking the stronger the better).
So at this point I strongly recommend the Manuka honey treatment, but definitely at a level of a UMF 16+ (MGO 250+).

Thank you all again for your advice, help and kind words. I'll check back soon and come back with updates as we see results.
I hope you all have a wonderful day and a very pleasant week.

T-Bird
07-19-2011, 02:23 PM
excellent!

Thanks for the update!