Does juicing really eliminate all chemicals?

[AnalyticPursuit]

I was reading a book from a person I highly respect, Norman Walker, who is the reason for my raw philosophy and in his book he says:

"There is a little-known fact regarding the effect of pesticides on our vegetables and fruits, which should be given much publicity in these times. We have been able to determine that pesticides and sprays may be injurious in the consumption of vegetables and fruits, it is the FIBERS of foods that collect these toxins. The atoms, enzymes and molecules are allergic to them."

I was wondering whether there is current research or more current research to validate or invalidate that claim? That's a pretty monumental claim in my mind. Is it true that juicing fruits and vegetables removes all the negative chemicals from the actual juice and retains it exclusively in the pulp? Any specific research or specific knowledge on the matter would be much appreciated.

Mike

[Aleesha Sattva]

I can't imagine that it would. I would say the chemicals go into the juice.

But I'm not sure - I have nothing but taste to support my claim.

[MelanieBear]

I disagree with this.

As I understand it, the first place for toxins to be stored in plants and animals is fat. This is why it's extra-important to buy organic nuts, seeds, olives, and oils. It's also why we can experience detox when losing weight that was gained during times of eating unclean foods.

Beyond that, I imgine that where the chemicals are stored, how they're processed, etc would depend on the chemical itself and on the plant. I cannot fathom that juicing would remove all chemicals.

Go organic!

[sport]

I disagree with this.

As I understand it, the first place for toxins to be stored in plants and animals is fat. This is why it's extra-important to buy organic nuts, seeds, olives, and oils. It's also why we can experience detox when losing weight that was gained during times of eating unclean foods.
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I understand that if you are storing toxins and you loose weight you do not loose any of the toxins and they just become more concentrated in the remaining fat.

[zinny]

The atoms are allergic?

[Seductive Arts]

I understand that if you are storing toxins and you loose weight you do not loose any of the toxins and they just become more concentrated in the remaining fat.

I heard differently from Dr. Oz. The more body fat you have, the more toxins you have, because fat attracts all forms of body toxicity as a form of "storage space". We need some body fat in order for the body to function properly, but too much fat is a toxin within itself. When you burn the fat, by losing weight, the body tries to find ways to get rid of that toxin stored fat. The proof of that is that many illnesses of people go away when they lose weight. If the toxins is just concentrated in the remaining fat then that would show that no one becomes healthier when they lose weight, which is not true.

As for the original post, pesticide is a chemical. Chemicals absorb in the blood stream quickly. No fiber in the food can rid itself of a chemical. The purpose of fiber is to clean out the digestive tract to move unwanted material in the body.

If you don't want chemicals in your body, just don't consume them by buying organic.

[sport]

I suppose that it all depends on who you listen to as in the old saying "doctors differ and patients die"
This is the second paragraph from the article linked below.

When we diet, and lose weight, but we don’t get rid of toxins, something else happens that is one of the main reasons the weight and fat returns almost every time. After you diet and have a smaller and you retain the toxins in you, they become more concentrated in your body because there is less of you for the toxins to be stored in. In addition, those toxins are no longer enveloped in a protective layer of fat and now your body is more vulnerable to these impurities!

http://www.published-articles.com/Art/57409/88/How-To-Lose-Weight-Without-Dieting-and-Keep-The-Weight-Off-For-Good-Part-3-of-3-part-series.html

[Aleesha Sattva]

sport, then how do you explain detox? from all the research i've done... the protective layer is removed and so the toxins are then disposed of by the organs. if the organs are overwhelmed the toxins can then be reabsorbed.

cause really... i was 300 pounds and REALLY sick... now i'm 132 pounds and super healthy. there is no way all those toxins from 3.5 years ago are still in my body. my blood work - my health all say otherwise.

[sport]

I think that the articles and research are about people who loose weight the normal traditional way and not the healthy way. You would detox your toxins anyway regardless of loosing weight the way that we do it here.

[Cottonball McFluffy]

I was reading a book from a person I highly respect, Norman Walker, who is the reason for my raw philosophy and in his book he says:

"There is a little-known fact regarding the effect of pesticides on our vegetables and fruits, which should be given much publicity in these times. We have been able to determine that pesticides and sprays may be injurious in the consumption of vegetables and fruits, it is the FIBERS of foods that collect these toxins. The atoms, enzymes and molecules are allergic to them."

I was wondering whether there is current research or more current research to validate or invalidate that claim? That's a pretty monumental claim in my mind. Is it true that juicing fruits and vegetables removes all the negative chemicals from the actual juice and retains it exclusively in the pulp? Any specific research or specific knowledge on the matter would be much appreciated.

Mike
The whole wording of the claim makes it pretty suspect in itself. You can't compare fiber and atoms and molecules as fiber (just like verything else in the entire universe) is made out of atoms and molecules. You can compare enzymes and fiber on a good day, but mostly the whole sentence just makes whoever put it down seem like a bit of a quack.
I'm not intending this as a personal attack, but just to clarify on the concepts used.

[Aleesha Sattva]

well norman walker isn't a flake by any means... he's like the father of juicing! he died at the ripe old age of 99... do a google search on him... (he also created the norfolk juicer) and assisted many people to cure themselves from cancer.

[lovenlife]

To me, juicing the fibers into oblivion sends the chemical toxins on non-organics, right into the juice.

I won't take a chance that it stays in the fiber/pulp!

[Revvell]

well norman walker isn't a flake by any means... he's like the father of juicing! he died at the ripe old age of 99... do a google search on him... (he also created the norfolk juicer) and assisted many people to cure themselves from cancer.

Uhhh, that would be Norwalk Juicer methinks.. and, there are claims he lived to 115... give or take. No one seems to really know.. unless you've got a source?

[Aleesha Sattva]

i do... his tombstone says 99 years... ;)

[Aleesha Sattva]

you can see it for yourself... here (http://arizonagravestones.org/view.php?id=33655)!

[renerdrat]

I was reading a book from a person I highly respect, Norman Walker, who is the reason for my raw philosophy and in his book he says:

"There is a little-known fact regarding the effect of pesticides on our vegetables and fruits, which should be given much publicity in these times. We have been able to determine that pesticides and sprays may be injurious in the consumption of vegetables and fruits, it is the FIBERS of foods that collect these toxins. The atoms, enzymes and molecules are allergic to them."

I was wondering whether there is current research or more current research to validate or invalidate that claim? That's a pretty monumental claim in my mind. Is it true that juicing fruits and vegetables removes all the negative chemicals from the actual juice and retains it exclusively in the pulp? Any specific research or specific knowledge on the matter would be much appreciated.

Mike

interesting.. doesn't sound right.. but what doesn't make sense logically doesn't always mean that it's wrong. I really don't know.. and don't see any kind of study that supports it. So who knows?

But I will say that many times juices don't react well with me. I don't know why.. maybe because there's so much potency in a small amount that my body just gets overwhelmed and becomes stressed.. I really don't know.

For me, just eating the vegetable/ fruit is best for me.