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passionpulp
10-20-2010, 12:16 AM
Bleh. Who's been raw for three months?
Me.
Who's fifteen and wants some questions answered?
Me.
Okay.
#1
I don't want anyone to get offended.
This has just been on my mind.
B-12.
If you only get it from animal products, and some seaweeds, why do we need it?
This is why sometimes, I think we aren't supposed to be vegan.
I may be wrong. I'm only fifteen.
But I don't like the idea of "supplements".
We didn't use to have supplements. When we needed a mineral or vitamin, we ate it.
I've been thinking. If I need this vitamin, what should I get it from.
Nutritional yeast is risky.
Meat is just kind of scary.
So what about dairy?
Maybe something I try. I'm talking about once a week raw goat cheese.
Does anyone else practice this?
#2
is this 100% raw diet the best?
Alot of people think it's poison. Alot would rather eat raw meat than steamed millet and think the latter is worse. That's dumb.
Now don't get me rawng. I love raw. I love the feel of it. I love the hydration from fruits and vegetables. But do you think that man was given the ultimatum of eating only raw foods to be healthy? I see nothing wrong with cooking a couple cooked foods. I thought the same as everyone else. But now I see different. Why would your body be so picky? It's just a little confusing for me. I'm no perfectionist. I'll risk some nutrients for a nice meal. That doesn't make it unhealthy. I understand if you want to do it for the cleansing factor. But you can't 'cleanse' your whole life. I kinda liked it because I practiced alot of discipline. But now, I see it differently. I would love to be at least 75% raw. I could easily go a day with only eating raw food. But when I want to eat cooked food, it's going in my belly. I just want to make sure nobody is stressed by the raw foods. If you want to eat cooked food, go for it. It's better than being emotionally unstable.
#3
will it get any better?
Obviously, it is getting better. You people are proof. But when will poor people be able to afford PRODUCE? I'm rather poor, and I must catch sales at my local super market. I do not see why all the snacks and packaged foods are on sale. Why is this country so sad? Aren't people supposed to live until they are 140? I know people who die in their 30's. Is this what we're coming to? We're supposed to have come a long way. We were supposed to be thriving. I rarely see the thrive. I've never met a Raw foodist. Much less a vegan. Do they even care. 'if they knew, they'd care'. No they wouldn't. The food tastes so good. I tell them, "My food Feels so good". Is Raw that extreme? No. It's just unheard of. We're not depriving ourselves. They are.
For Christmas, I want Government Subsidized Kale.

sport
10-20-2010, 06:22 AM
B12. I think that the reason that we no longer get it from our food is because we wash everything too carefully. If you just go out and eat your produce as it comes you would get it. I like to have my food clean and I am prepared to supplement in order to keep it that way.
Some take dairy but only raw dairy and I do not know if there is B12 in it and I have no intention of trying it because the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. I have read The China Study so I will be staying well away from dairy. Again, I would prefer to supplement b12 than to have cancer. If you keep the dairy to a small amount you may be OK but a product that is made from the rotting of the secretions from the mammary glands of another species is not for me.


#2
is this 100% raw diet the best?
Alot of people think it's poison. Alot would rather eat raw meat than steamed millet and think the latter is worse. That's dumb.

I want you to look up the term Digestive Leukocytosis
http://www.healthe-livingnews.com/articles/are_enzyme-deficient_foods_making_you_sick.html

It is not dumb. I will avoid any food that causes my immune system to go into overdrive and make more white blood cells.

But do you think that man was given the ultimatum of eating only raw foods to be healthy? I see nothing wrong with cooking a couple cooked foods.

It is not about cleansing. It is about eating the foods that your body will recognise as foods and know how to deal with. When you heat a food there is a chemical change takes place (as when you heat anything in chemistry class). This change means that your body no longer recognises it as food and sees it as an alien attack and acts accordingly. It concentrates all of its attention on dealing with it when it should be dealing with other things such as repairs and maintenance.
It is simelar to constantly distracting the driver of the car and making them do other things while they are driving and causing them to be at far greater risk of having an accident. You are at far greater risk of disease if your body is too busy concentration on fending off aliens.

I do not eat cooked foods and I am not emotionally unstable so I do not understand that remark. I think that it is more probable that the people who do eat it are emotionally unstable because they seem to see food as something that controls their emotions. You need to get away from that sort of thinking. Food is like the gas that you put in your car. The better and cleaner the gas the better your car performs and the longer it will last but if you want to put cheap dirty gas in then it is your car so you do that.

On poor people affording produce that will only get better when the government remove the subsidy from meat and sugar and put it on to produce. Meat in the US is subsidised to over 70% and sugar over 60%. Carrots and apples are 4%.

You say that you have never met a raw foodist or vegan but I am sure that there are meet-up groups in your town so you must join them and meet these people.
I know that it seems as though the cooked meal tastes great but when you get to my age let me assure you that the taste does not make up for the feeling of just feeling great. I love feeling good and would not sacrifice it for all the great tasting food in the world. I can see how the others around me are suffering and I see my husband swallowing antacids and pain killers and I am not registered with any doctor and wake up in the morning feeling great and spend all day feeling great and go to bed feeling great and do not ask me to swap that.

Eva
10-20-2010, 09:09 AM
we are supposed to make b12... and we do when our digestive systems are in good shape... this is why animals have it... they produce it for themselves (not for us)...

and just to keep that concept in check... meat eaters are MORE likely than vegans to be deficient in b12.

shocking, isn't it? it's because meat and dairy are so harmful to the intestinal tract ~ what with all the dead animals decaying. blech.

great questions ~ "Passion" ~ "only" 15? just a number. be as smart and mature as you choose. big moves to be asking questions and thinking for yourself too. you are even smarter than you know!

:)

SevenKindsOfCookie
10-20-2010, 09:23 AM
I don't like supplements either. The only one I take is Vitamin D since the sun isn't around much where I live. :)

I do eat a lot of wild foods straight from the ground and I believe that's the main reason why my B12 levels are fine still. However, every other primate on this planet that I know of eats insects. Does this mean that it should be an essential part of our diet if we don't eat meat? I don't know for sure, but it does make a lot more sense than eating large mammals.
I'm not attracted to eating insects myself so I stay away from eating them on purpose. I think that with the abundance of food we have these days it should be possible to do without them.

Shels
10-20-2010, 08:24 PM
Hi there passionpulp. :)

First of all I'd like to stress that b12 is very very important. If you are deficient in it there is a whole slew of things that can go wrong, anywhere from anemia all the way to your spinal cord degenerating. Yikes. It is also linked to depression, and possibly Alzheimer's.
I recently found out my levels were a little low, so I've been looking this stuff up lately. Apparently some mushrooms have B12, and so do lots of fermented foods (kimchi, cheezes, etc) - also, kombucha tea, which I think is deeeeelicious.
I also believe that supplements and vitamins are very bad for us, in some cases dangerous. You're smart to be wary of them.

As for 100% raw, I think that everybody's body needs something different. The higher raw I am, the better I feel. Some people go all out for a few years and then add back some cooked things. I think the most important part is to stick with whole foods, but otherwise follow your body.

#3 ... are you questioning whether or not raw will get better, or the state of humanity in general? I really hope that healthy foods become more affordable, and I think that if that happens it will be easier to help people onto the right track.
A lot of people are simply ignorant of the things they are doing to their bodies, but you're right - lots just don't care. They are stuck in their ways, and our society and culture has trained them to stay there. The most you can do is lead by example.

At the very least, the world is becoming a little more health-friendly. A couple decades ago there weren't many vegetarians at all, and now nearly all restaurants have at least one special meat-free dish. People know what "vegan" means, raw-food restaurants are opening up, and the truth about factory farming is slowly, slowly ebbing out. We are headed in the right direction, however lazily.

ArcturusXIV
10-21-2010, 12:34 AM
Bleh. Who's been raw for three months?
Me.
Who's fifteen and wants some questions answered?
Me.
Okay.
#1
I don't want anyone to get offended.
This has just been on my mind.
B-12.
If you only get it from animal products, and some seaweeds, why do we need it?
This is why sometimes, I think we aren't supposed to be vegan.
I may be wrong. I'm only fifteen.
But I don't like the idea of "supplements".
We didn't use to have supplements. When we needed a mineral or vitamin, we ate it.
I've been thinking. If I need this vitamin, what should I get it from.
Nutritional yeast is risky.
Meat is just kind of scary.
So what about dairy?
Maybe something I try. I'm talking about once a week raw goat cheese.
Does anyone else practice this?
#2
is this 100% raw diet the best?
Alot of people think it's poison. Alot would rather eat raw meat than steamed millet and think the latter is worse. That's dumb.
Now don't get me rawng. I love raw. I love the feel of it. I love the hydration from fruits and vegetables. But do you think that man was given the ultimatum of eating only raw foods to be healthy? I see nothing wrong with cooking a couple cooked foods. I thought the same as everyone else. But now I see different. Why would your body be so picky? It's just a little confusing for me. I'm no perfectionist. I'll risk some nutrients for a nice meal. That doesn't make it unhealthy. I understand if you want to do it for the cleansing factor. But you can't 'cleanse' your whole life. I kinda liked it because I practiced alot of discipline. But now, I see it differently. I would love to be at least 75% raw. I could easily go a day with only eating raw food. But when I want to eat cooked food, it's going in my belly. I just want to make sure nobody is stressed by the raw foods. If you want to eat cooked food, go for it. It's better than being emotionally unstable.
#3
will it get any better?
Obviously, it is getting better. You people are proof. But when will poor people be able to afford PRODUCE? I'm rather poor, and I must catch sales at my local super market. I do not see why all the snacks and packaged foods are on sale. Why is this country so sad? Aren't people supposed to live until they are 140? I know people who die in their 30's. Is this what we're coming to? We're supposed to have come a long way. We were supposed to be thriving. I rarely see the thrive. I've never met a Raw foodist. Much less a vegan. Do they even care. 'if they knew, they'd care'. No they wouldn't. The food tastes so good. I tell them, "My food Feels so good". Is Raw that extreme? No. It's just unheard of. We're not depriving ourselves. They are.
For Christmas, I want Government Subsidized Kale.

Okay, I can answer all of these.

1) Where do cows get B-12? Micro-soil organisms. If you eat produce that is organic, you can eat it unwashed (just check for weird fungal growths and insects). Your body will naturally produce B-12. Also, the B-12 myth is just that, a myth. Mushrooms contain trace amounts of B-12, enough for your body, and certain mushrooms contain quite a lot of it! Remember, they are more closely related to animals, being a fungi, than plants (no chlorophyll).
2) Life is picky. And 1,000,000 people can be dumb as f*ck. Sorry to say it, but the entire system we, as a human race, have set up is wrong! The best way to think of this is the animal kingdom: Does any other animal cook their food? Do they eat it fresh? Do they eat it from the tree to me? Yes. So man, being a mammal, must also eat as other animals eat on this earth, or perish an ignoble death. Essentially, nature provided everything in its natural form, exactly as we need it. When we modify things, once removed from nature, twice removed from nature, that is when we get in trouble. The best way to eat is exactly as God (or spirit) designed it! Remember, a million people elected Hitler too! Just because the majority does it, does that make it right? Or are we just thinking with our "brainwashed" senses instead of our normal, methodical mind?
3) #3 is easy. I was always hungry on the raw food diet until I discovered vine fruits (essentially, anything with a viable seed is botanically a fruit) and root vegetables. So, eat more pumpkin! Eat banana squash! Eat things that grow in the earth, like carrots! And eat seasonally, too. That is the best tip I can give you! We are supposed to eat with the seasons, what nature provides, because it provides medicines for a variety of seasonal conditions based on the season. The best way to think about this is: everything lives in balance? Why shouldn't we? Read Ishmael. It's a wonderful novel by Daniel Quinn. The current agricultural system we have is unsustainable, and if you want me to be honest, even raw food is a trivial factory in this--the real diet best for man would be foraging. Eating what the earth provides us. Most of the most nutritious plants and vegetables growing on this earth and wildcrafted, like greens. 98% of all plants are edible, and usually intuition will tell you (by bright colors!) when it is not. Such as an arrow poison frog has stripes of red and orange on it's skin to tell you "DON'T TOUCH ME! I AM POISONOUS." Think about it: dandelion greens are just another green vegetable, the only difference is we don't package and sell them. So, thinking "spinach" is the limit to your raw food diet is wrong! And a fallacy. Cows deplete the soil, also, because we have to plant the same crops again and again to feed them, which in turn drains the same minerals from the soil to maintain them, leading to mineral depletion and a natural inability after several generations of growing to no longer grow that form of veggie! Also, we feed them steroids (growth hormones!), pesticides (in the grass they eat), and they emit hormones in response to fright--if you've ever been to a slaughterhouse, you know what I mean! You consume those hormones, you also live in fear. Chemicals in the human body are imbalanced by eating other animals chemical imbalances, and the way we treat animals is cruel!

I'm going to go off on a limb here and say "meat, dairy and eggs" wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the preservatives, chemicals, and denaturing we put into them! I mean, think about it? Do you have the instinct to go out, chase down a rabbit, tear it apart with your bare hands, eat it raw? Then you're not a meat eater. Goat cheese, on the other hand, is a wonderful transition food, but not necessary if you're doing this right and eating a LOT of avadacos. If you can't find them in season, that's another matter! But I still recommend that and coconuts if you can find them.

Raw food made easy for 1-2 people will help you, my friend. I spend little more than $100.00 a month on raw foods, if I'm careful, and usually less! Make LOTS of squash soup, eat greens 1-2 times each day, and have a grapefruit in the morning, a papaya at night! And remember, one fruit tree can feed an entire family for a lifetime! One cow cannot.

There are so many varieties of fruits in nature, you will never run out! Not even if you eat one new fruit every day for the rest of your life...! I am trying a durian next week. If I can find one!

Rest in peace, little buddy, I'm off to find some sleep in the pastures of Nod,

James (Arcturus).

Peace!

ArcturusXIV
10-21-2010, 01:07 AM
It is not about cleansing. It is about eating the foods that your body will recognise as foods and know how to deal with. When you heat a food there is a chemical change takes place (as when you heat anything in chemistry class). This change means that your body no longer recognises it as food and sees it as an alien attack and acts accordingly.

Cookie is right! It is the concept of "Food as medicine." Let your body eat intuitively! But recognize the difference between an "intuition" (from the heart chakra) and a "craving" (from the mind, illusion, Maya.) Freeing yourself from illusion brings no suffering, it brings release! Living in delusion, on the other hand, brings much suffering that is unnecessary! Buddha realized this, and went to meditate under the Bodhi tree. Most men do not realize he was a man, not a saint, nor a godhead.

As far as white blood cell count, I have not read, but I will read now!

I have also recognized the perils of nutritional yeast, and fungi in general. I am studying the matter in mycology reading quite thoroughly, and getting a few books for that matter!

Fermenting? Unsure.

Peppers? Unsure.

Some people even say collards & kale are related to deadly Nightshade! But I disagree... Potatoes are, that is why we avoid them.

Again, the easiest way to thrive is to eat a raw food diet...

The medical system, the way we have it set up, cannot last! We are depleting our economy to pay for ills that people could cure for themselves, if they simply paid attention! Most of our diet consists of sugar right now. Look at all your products. How many of them have starches, yeasts, sugars? All of them are the same thing--poison. Fructose corn syrup? Bleh. Our diet has changed over the last 200 years, but our digestive system has not changed in over 1,000,000 years. Suddenly, we are introducing new foods, new chemicals (and even foods are a chemical, and affect our brain patterns in certain ways--read up on depression & serotonin uptake). "Love is just...a chemical reaction!" sorry, I couldn't resist.

Sugar used to be a recreational drug for the English nobility back in the 18th century. Now it is a common part of our every food. Coca Cola contains 12 teaspoons of sugar per can! Coincidence? Or head test. These people are introducing the only addictive substances they can to get us hooked on their "product." Nature, on the other hand, cannot be bottled and bought--it grows here naturally. Even weed, my friend.

I wish I had started on the raw food diet when I was 17 and was diagnosed with Crohn's 3 years earlier! I watched TWO FAMILIES thrive, one of them curing 2 children who would have died at age 5 (twins!) and himself of intestinal cancer! The other was on his deathbed, and lost 300 lbs.

Point I was coming to, is: look up mold & fungus. It can thrive almost anywhere! Look up candida. Mold can grow in hot, cold, even spores are light enough to pass through ozone and travel through outerspace! (wikipedia & other sources). Even in your sinus. Most people have some degree of sinus infection, and they don't even know it, because they are unused to breathing properly! Doctors will tell you the same, but they don't know what's causing it. Now, on some doctor's site I looked up, 94% of sinusitis is chronic, and fungal related. You can look up videos of them removing this crap from people's blocked airways! You require oxygen every minute or so to survive. You can go a week without water, longer without food.. But oxygen is crucial! If we are not breathing properly, how can we detox? Oxygen is #1 detox method known to man! That, and direct sunlight. People who are depressed, are shallow breathers. How many times does your mother tell you to count to ten when you are angry? Does your breathing change? Most people who become angry stop breathing when their temper flares. Trick is proper breathing!

As far as pricing, raw foods are worth it! Cheaper than hospital bills, in the long run. And a lot less inconvenient! You do not know how much pain the human body can endure until you are on 10+ meds a day combating pain & depression that is curable through a simple backslide into the proper diet for an entire kingdom of herbivores and mammals! Man, of which is one. (Look up comparitive taxonomy of man to other herbivores, then carnivores, then omnivores--we are DEFINITELY herbivore.)

Now, about sugars: What feeds candida? Most people have an infection. MOLD. In their lungs, in their bloodstream, in their sinus...so on.

ANSWER: SUGAR!

So, when we eat for sugars (most cooked food, which is why it is so addictive) we are just feeding something that is a parasite, preying on us! Look it up. Candida is everywhere. And most people walk around all day, tired and unhappy, with a mold infection living off them! Do you really want to eat to feed something that is infectuous and parasitic? You are starting a Candida farm on your body if you do. NOT common sense (though, as one brave man pointed out, Common sense is not that common.) Or do you want to eat to feed YOURSELF, Your BRAIN, and be the HAPPIEST YOU CAN BE (requiring less than 6 hours of sleep a night. You should rise early with the sun. As Thoreau said, paraphrased, the man who does not find an earlier hour to rise has grown to despair life!) The point is--energy. Your body produces it from the mitochrondria in your cells. When the mitochondria die, you die. Protein is a myth--here's a clue--it is built of chains of amino acids, which your body has to break down to create it's own proteins. Guess what contains amino acids? Avacado. And greens contain more usable protein than steak, animals, anything! Watch "Go Raw Now" trailer on YouTube. Gorillas & elephants eat nothing but fruits, grass, veggies! And a gorilla can bench press a good 1,000 Lbs.! Man in video can lift himself with hands, and he is thin! Now look at Stephen Arlin, raw foodist bodybuilder, who snow skiis nude! (body builds a resistance to temperature through raw foods also, and oddly enough, penis size grows.) He can also squat a good 400! So, digestive enzymes are necessary to break down food. Here's another clue to tell your friends & doubters: Body only produces so many in a lifetime. Most people deplete 70-80% of their enzymes by age 40. Body gets sicker, sicker, produces less energy! Time to start is now. And don't worry about slips, my biggest mistake was getting critical (judgmental mind, same one that produces "cravings" & "irrational behavior," rather than "intuitive knowing." i.e. gnosis <Greek word, look it up>)!!! So, if you eat raw, you get enzymes. End of story! Body balances out, you consume the same enzymes you take out, and your body becomes "natural." However, the longer you stay cooked, the less enzymes you will have! Body does not produce MORE enzymes, the enzymes in your food are what's used to break it down! So basically, if you feel tired after a BIG Thankgiving meal, that's why!

The best way to go raw, btw, is to simply "replace" what you're eating now with ONE cooked meal and day, and start gradually filtering out cooked veggies, fruits, foods that are wrong, and replacing them with proper substitutes. So, if you eat pumpkin pie one day, start eating raw pumpkin the next! Or eat an extra glass of green smoothie a day! You will have less room, therefore crave less cooked food! The more raw you eat, the less you have for everything else! And finally, let's be honest with ourselves: What does body tell us when it "hums" and feels energized? Good, isn't it. Essential minerals do this for us, and cooking removes them. We do not even know how many trace minerals are in food, we haven't even named them yet! We have a few recognizable ones, sulfur, iron, so on.. But most of them haven't even been researched! Less risky to eat right, until science catches up! And also, I'm going to add, it is not just what you put in that energizes the body, it is what you take out!!

Finally, if you must eat cooked, STEAM veggies first.

And last but not least, send good intentions to the universe, and it will send good intentions back to YOU! Masaru Emoto proved this with water molecules (YouTube, or book, you look it up!). Body is 90% water? What do we need to survive? More water. Cooked food dehydrates cells. Raw food feeds it! Your body wouldn't swallow a sponge, so why swallow a loaf of bread? And I'm going to add, finally, You will only die out when the body stops producing energy! Mitochondria die out. Body = energy! Get it? Cooked fiber, spongy, does nothing to remove waste. Raw fiber, good, help digestion, and we don't get enough of it!! Your body is a filter for your soul. Better to have a clean filter, to channel more spirit into this realm, than a dirty one, that distorts reality and tells us Lies! A lie is simply nonexistent. Therefore, we either exist in a vacuum of nonexistence, or we exist in the light of truth. That is why a lie in the sight of God was the ultimate sin in Persian times! A lie = nonexistence. Get it? If you embody truth, you will become truth, if you embody lies, your body simply diminishes, and your heart become a well of lies. Light = energy. All matter = energy condensed. Therefore, we are the light of God, or the sorrow of non-being! The end.:o

ArcturusXIV
10-21-2010, 01:21 AM
I know this diatribe seems to go on forever, but I have to add one more things:

Law of karma is two-fold.
If we hypothesize God as light, then all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. All things are the same.
Physics is the study of energy, and the laws it responds to.
Karma = Indian word. It means, simply: Action.
Laws of physics state that for each action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
If you bounce a ball off a wall, it rebounds, comes back to you.
If you bounce negative energy off the universe, it WILL come back.
By eating meat, not honoring our animals and kindred spirits, we have incurred a HUGE karmic debt. Think of the ozone and the chemicals we pump into it, which last for 20 years after we have sent them up there, eating at the holes in our atmosphere. We already have one HUGE hole over California.
Simply put, God exists by the same laws of karma as us, therefore He/She/It must exist in perfect, and if God is all around us, we are all one, and part of Him/Her/It. God is bound by the laws of energy, physics, as us! Thus, he/she/it must exist in perfection! And to perfect our soul is the ultimate virtue.
Our body is built of cells. Cells are built of the food we eat. Would you rather have a temple constructed of slabs of hunking dead rotting cow flank, or a temple constructed of natural, healing earth? What we eat, makes us. Thus, the cells we create when we eat a steak last us, and they WILL malfunction, because they were not functional cells in the first place! David Wolfe seems to think it takes 4 generations to filter our damage to our DNA through cooked food nutrition. I'm not going to argue! I have a genetic anomaly myself. Asperger's syndrome! I am going to say, however, 98% of your cells change over every two years, and the possibility of change is always there! Remember cellular respiration! Your body does not need more mucus! Mucus = white blood cells. The reason milk is white is it is FULL of dead white blood cells, from an unfamiliar animal. Cheese is even worse, and contains traces of raw blood.
Either we feed our temple proper nutrition, or we fail as human beings and become something less than our true potential! Which would you rather be? Your highest self. Our your lowest, animal, base desires? We must aspire to reach the stars, otherwise we will always hunker to the ground and not develop those happy "Opposable thumbs" evolution/God gave us!
And I am firmly convinced, despite the argument for a "Selfish gene" that compassion is the next stage of our human evolution! And we should begin by fostering that for all life, here, now, and always!!

Rejoice and be happy, for eternity is the now, and spirit is but a breath away!,

James

Give me five minutes and an etch-a-sketch and I can prove it!!!

Shels
10-21-2010, 11:15 AM
Lol, walls of text here.

I'd just like to point out that the b12 found in soil is from fecal matter, and organic produce still needs to be washed. There are still many harmful things on it, no matter what labels it might have.

kaybee
10-21-2010, 02:25 PM
i second what shels said, about washing organic produce. organic standards have been way watered down and certain things have been approved or ok'ed for organic use that you would not want to eat. also, my understanding is that organic standards prohibit the ROUTINE use of pesticides etc, but that doesnt mean that they are guaranteed to never have been sprayed with chemicals. even some all-natural pesticides are toxic for you to eat (they are meant to kill the bugs so they probably arent great for you either). i know theres one method that entails spraying lettuces with liquid soap when they are out in the fields to protect the leaves etc. also, organic doesnt mean veganic. wanna eat fish emulsion? many organic farms fertilize with this, and also some with blood or bone meal etc. unless you grew it yourself and it just rained, i would wash it. in addition, think of all the people that have handled that produce before you, if you bought it in a shop, or even at a market. someone had to pick it by hand, then it was transported etc and if its from a shop loads of peoples hands have probably been over it. NO THANKS. i think its disinformation often being spread about it being ok to not wash organic produce. unless i grew it, id wash it.