Canola Oil

[MAK]

I would like forum to state opinion on oils.
Geoff Bond in his book is raving about canola oil as a great source of Omega-3. He is very negative in coconut oil, because it is a saturated fat. He is neutral on olive oil. I have read several negative articles on canola oil (rapeseed oil) and how Canadian producers corrupted FDA (what else is new,-))) to approve canola oil for the mass consumption. Mary Enig, Raymond Peat and J. Mercola considering coconut oil as a super food. Well I bought bottle of canola oil last week and using in my salads. Kind of tasteless and odorless.
Opinion and experiences are welcome.

[Jo-anne]

Okay MAK here is my suggestion.................THROW THAT BOOK AWAY or better still BURN IT !!!!!!

Canola oil is one of the worst oils you can ever use. Coconut oil is very beneficial and highly recommended.

MAK, if your coconut oil is tastless and odorless you must have the infereor brand, coconut oil should a distinct light coconut smell and you should defniitely be able to taste it! The best type to purchase is the 100% organic virgin coconut oil, I know that Mercola sells it on his site.

Good Luck!

[Rawkinlocs]

Mike, from your couple of posts referrencing Geoff (your mention of him saying that saccharin and canola oil are good for you) and what I've briefly read of him on the internet, I'm getting the feeling that this Geoff isn't into raw foods though he is into natural yet cooked foods, correct?

So...how about keeping your research of him and his methods something you do seperate from here since this IS a raw (mainly vegan) foods board. I know you're 95% raw, that's the part we want to discuss here...the other 5% of your diet, whatever that may be, really doesn't warrant any discussion here...that's what you choose to do outside of THIS realm.

Thanks Mike!

[MAK]

No-no, I was saying that canola oil is tasteless and odorless (read careful). I love coconut oil. It has a great taste and definetly bacon-like odor. Great.
I buy coconut oil in the local Indian store.

Rawkinlock. You are right that book does not exactly promote raw food style. It had an interesting approach to the natural eating and does suggest that raw food has by far more superior qualities than cooked food. Under no circumstances I wnat to undermine the idea of raw food veganism. Hey, why do you think I am here.
I am just interesting in opinions and experiences.
We all experimanting on ourself. Just trying to avoid mistakes.
Unfortunately when it comes to some foods, there is no black and white.
For instance when it comes to cooked/heated oils we all agree that is bad.
But when you read in two different reputable sources two different opinion that when you have to make decision.
I am not against vegan way of life at all. i am following one with a grat result (knock on wood).
Therefore, let's not be zelous.
I just asked for opinions.

[Rawkinlocs]

I'm not being zealous Mike, but things just are what they are. If I am a raw fooder, then I'll tend to lean towards reading material that promotes that or material that gives health and nutrition information without suggesting that things I know or feel in my heart (or from reading other sources of information) are not healthy or the best for me.

As I said, this is a raw foods board...it's not a general, all-around nutrition board. There are those out there and that's fine if that's your bag. But it is my responsibility to keep things in the perspective of what this board is and what the owner of this board desires it to be.

I'm not knocking you for reading other reputible sources of material and having questions about it, but I admit I was trying to feel out whether your questions are truly sincere (because they're definitely valid) or if you're baiting us here because of some past history you have with the owner and some of the members of this board (not under the name of MAK, of course, but you know what I mean) so I have to do what I feel is right to keep things flowing in the right direction here.

Thanks for your response!

[MAK]

I know what you mean ,-)))).
Either canola oil or coconut oil, we still talk about raw products. I am adament about raw food lifestyle. Period. I have to admit, that because of few postings on this board i adjasted my eating routine. Thanks. Right now I have doubts and I have stated them. No fishing at all ,-)).
In any case I would like to hear about oils.

[MAK]

I have read another sobering thread on another forum regarding canola oil. It is indeed a genetically engineered food. Oh well will through away bottle tonight. Wasted $2.19 ,-)))). Back to olive and coconut oil ,-)))

[Jo-anne]

"Well I bought bottle of canola oil last week and using in my salads. Kind of tasteless and odorless."


MAK, I re-read your post and to me it appears you were talking about the canola oil as can be seen from the above.

MAK, its cool, I know you are only asking questions etc, but when I read your posts I kinda have to go "noooooooooooooooooooo" that guy has been ill-informed, and I feel I have to share with you what I know, whether you take the advice or not that is totally up to you, but to me well it wouldnt feel right if I knew something and didnt share it.

SOmetimes my posts my seem abrupt but its not how they were intended to be, iam not a "touchy feely" kinda person and can't pretty up my words, gees I wish I could and I envy those on this board who write some wonderful posts full of caring words, but me, well, I just say it as it is.

I truly wish you well.

[Jo-anne]

OMG I do apologise MAK, sheesh I seem to be doing this quite a bit lately, I think I should only posts during the day when I'm awake and not at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning when I should be sleeping.

[MAK]

Here is another answer to my own quetion:

"...Canola Oil contains 5% saturated fat, 57% oleic acid, 23% omega-6 and 10%-15% omega-3. The newest oil on the market, canola oil was developed from the rape seed, a member of the mustard family. Rape seed is unsuited to human consumption because it contains a very-long-chain fatty acid called erucic acid, which under some circumstances is associated with fibrotic heart lesions.
Canola oil was bred to contain little if any erucic acid and has drawn the attention of nutritionists because of its high oleic acid content. But there are some indications that canola oil presents dangers of its own.
It has a high sulphur content and goes rancid easily. Baked goods made with canola oil develop mold very quickly. During the deodorizing process, the omega-3 fatty acids of processed canola oil are transformed into trans fatty acids, similar to those in margarine and possibly more dangerous.69 A recent study indicates that "heart healthy" canola oil actually creates a deficiency of vitamin E, a vitamin required for a healthy cardiovascular system.70 Other studies indicate that even low-erucic-acid canola oil causes heart lesions, particularly when the diet is low in saturated fat..."

[Mike]

I do not know if canola is safe or not. I think it depends on the brand.

Whole Foods organic canola is probably okay for cooked fooders. Safeway supermarket GMO canola oil is probably dangerous.

It is a cooked oil, and all cooked vegetable oils are carcinogenic. You should not eat it.

My girlfriend loves the Annies Salad Dressings, especially the Goddess dressing.

Annies uses canola oil in everything.

I was going to email Annies the Mary Enig article about the dangers of canola, "The Great CON-ola", then I found an article on their site saying it is "healthy".

For cooked fooders, organic non-GMO canola oil is probably a better choice than the other cooked vegetable oils.

http://www.anniesnaturals.com/Pages/faq.htm

Q: I've heard canola oil is really an industrial oil ...?

A: At Annie’s Naturals, we occasionally receive calls from customers expressing concern about our use of canola oil. In the majority of these cases, the concern has been prompted by information put forth over the Internet.

We have investigated these sources and have found that the allegations about canola oil are based on misinformation and unsubstantiated rumor. We have seen no studies based on scientific method that show canola oil is hazardous to your health. We encourage people to call us for a list of sources for further research and information.

In fact, canola oil has many benefits.

"Canola is an all-around healthful, reasonably priced cooking oil," writes journalist Shoba Narayan in New Age magazine. "It contains the lowest percentage of saturated fat of all oils and is second only to olive oil in its percentage of monounsaturated fatty acids; it also has moderate amounts of essential polyunsaturated fatty acids."

The origin of canola oil: Canola oil comes from canola seed ...

Canola oil is not rapeseed oil. Based on black mustard, leaf mustard, and turnip rapeseed, canola oil is a hybrid variety of rapeseed. Canola differs from rapeseed in that ...

Not all canola oil is genetically modified. ... The canola oil used in Annie’s Naturals’ salad dressing is not genetically modified;

[nemo]

oh to jump in here with both feet...

...canola oil is deffinitely an industrial lubericant (so is coconut oil btw.)

it was marketed as nutritious to the FDA when synthetics pushed it off the market as a machine oil... (wish i had the links to all of this.)

part of the huge smear campaign against coconut oil was funded, instigated, and directed by the conola oil industry...

canola oil isn't fit for human consumption. un-GMO rapeseed oil is something i know very little about, but canola oil is just plain icky...

virgin coconut oil is totally different... check out bruce fife's info on the subject, and inform yourself.

nemo

[nemo]

did MAK attack somebody?

wow things move fast around here...

nemo