Calling any women who healed fibroids with raw food or juice fasting

[natural-girl]

Hi, everyone,

I was wondering if there was anyone on this forum who has healed their fibroids by either doing an all raw diet or a juice fast? And if so, did your fibroids hurt when they were shrinking?

The reason I ask is that a few months ago, I began working up to an all raw diet. I am now about 99 per cent raw (100% on some days). Yesterday, I did a 24 hour juice fast. I've also been oil pulling for the last 3 days.

Well, I am now having some really severe pain (where the fibroids are) and I'm not sure if it is due to the fibroids shrinking or just regular fibroid pain. My stomach does seem much flatter than before, and one of my fibroids that I can feel seems to be smaller....so I'm hoping that the pain is from them shrinking. (I researched online and I did see that fibroids can severely hurt when shrinking.)

Anyway, I was just wondering if any women on this forum have successfully shrunk their fibroids doing raw food diet or juice fasting or oil pulling (or any combination of the above) and if so, did it hurt when the fibroids were shrinking?

Thanks!

[Aleesha Sattva]

(I researched online and I did see that fibroids can severely hurt when shrinking.)

Sounds like you found your answer! Congrats!!!

[natural-girl]

I am looking for another woman who has experienced the same problem as I am experiencing. I know what it says online.

[Aleesha Sattva]

I hear you but let's celebrate YOU for a moment. This is great news!!! (((hugs)))

[RawkinM]

Hi natural-girl,

I'm not a medical professional, so won't give advice, but merely relate my experiences. Sorry this is long!

I have fibroids and endo. Forgive the gory details, but I had spent a very long time with abnormal uterine bleeding because of them. The ONLY things that have helped clear it up and some of the toxins/old lining were 1) a lemon water fast for 1 week and 2) eating raw. Only things outside of western medicine that have helped me. I tried herbs, accupuncture and more. I fell back into SAD for a while but the last couple of weeks, I have been doing a lot of work surrounding self-acceptance and self-love (Had problems with them for years). I want to build a healthy relationship with my body, I want it to be vibrant and healthy. It's part of why I'm here.

I believe that I have 30 years of toxins stored and a lifetime of pain/hurt and anger - I am on a journey now to release those things by eating raw for now and then possibly fasting soon. I am also doing a lot of emotional work. I know I need to give my body the time and space to heal itself and all the healthy tools it needs to do so. I LOVED the lemon water fast. Lemons to me are just so positive and healing.

I know that I could fix everything fast with surgery - I also know it would imbalance me and not really cure the underlying condition. I know the only way to cure myself is by doing this - the body was meant to have true nutrition and not be fed toxins for umpteen years. I got myself out of an abusive relationship (needed to do that for years) and that has released much of the pain, anger and negativity locked up in me. Now it's time to give my body as much time as IT needs to heal. I cannot force or coerce it to work harder - I have to show it love and honor and support it as it does what it needs.

Right now, with going 100% raw, I've had increased bleeding with more tissue. It will clear up in a few days - my body is just releasing. And yes, my fibroids hurt more. I'm not feeding them and they are dying.

But this is MY journey with these things. Yours may be different. Really look at your life, your nutrition - I think you have all the answers you need inside you. I wish you all the best ~ may you find what you need and find deep true healing ~
Misty

[Raw Angel Mom]

I would love to share my experience also. I truly believe in plant food and i believe strongly in visualization. I am glad to know that pain could mean shrinking because i got them, lol... (no more glad to report)

In 1998, they found a fibroid in me of 10 cm long. They told me that it couldn't shrink. In 2005, while getting check while pregnant, they found the fibroid to be only 1 cm long.

Now, i wouldn't be surprise that if i get check they would tell me that my fibroid is gone because i no longer have heavy period. I just know in my heart that i am fine. I have been on raw food since 2007 with couple years consuming rice, cook beans and steam vegetables.

When i first found out that i had a fibroid, i gave thanks to my body for shrinking the fibroid. Now i gave thanks to my body for making it desapeared.

The power of the mind has no limitations. Bless your food and bless your body. Knowing that you are doing these fasting and great raw food consumption, it is without question a great help to your body to heal you.

If i could do that without having a 100% pur diet, you certainly are already a success with your choice of food.

Hold the vision and thank your body for doing a great job for you. Our body is a separate entitity that needs our love and support.

Congratulations with your raw journey!

[natural-girl]

Thanks, both of you for posting your experiences!

[Aleesha Sattva]

Found some info (http://www.gaianstudies.org/articles4.htm) for ya... read to the end.


The Physiological Changes of Water Fasting
Many of the most dramatic changes that occur in the body during fasting take place on the first three days of the fast. These occur as the body switches from one fuel source to another. Normally, the primary form of energy the body uses for energy is glucose, a type of sugar. Most of this is extracted or converted from the food we eat. Throughout the day, the liver stores excess sugar in a special form called glycogen that it can call on as energy levels fall between meals. There is enough of this sugar source for 8-12 hours of energy and usually, it is completely exhausted within the first 24 hours of fasting. (However, once the body shifts over to ketosis or fat as fuel, this new fuel is used to also restore the body's glycogen reserves.)
Once the liver's stores of glycogen are gone, the body begins to shift over to what is called ketosis or ketone production - the use of fatty acids as fuel instead of glucose. This shift generally begins on the second day of fasting and completed by the third. In this interim period there is no glucose available and energy from fat conversion is insufficient but the body still needs fuel. So it accesses glucose from two sources. It first converts glycerol, available in the body's fat stores, to glucose but this is still insufficient. So it makes the rest that it needs from catabolizing, or breaking down, the amino acids in muscle tissue, using them in the liver for gluconeogenesis, or the making of glucose. Between 60 and 84 grams of protein are used on this second day, 2-3 ounces of muscle tissue. By the third day ketone production is sufficient to provide nearly all the energy the body needs and the body's protein begins to be strongly conserved. The body still needs a tiny amount of glucose for some functions, however, so a very small amount of protein, 18-24 grams, is still catabolized to supply it - from 1/2 to 1 ounce of muscle tissue per day. Over a 30 day water fast a person generally loses a maximum of 1-2 pounds of muscle mass. This conservation of the body's protein is an evolutionary development that exists to protect muscle tissue and vital organs from damage during periods of insufficient food availability.
From the third day onward the rate of the breakdown of fatty acids from adipose or fat tissue continues to increase, hitting its peak on the tenth day. This seven day period, after the body has shifted completely over to ketosis, is where the maximum breakdown of fat tissue occurs. As part of protein conservation, the body also begins seeking out all non-body-protein sources of fuel: nonessential cellular masses such as fibroid tumors and degenerative tissues, bacteria, viruses, or any other compounds in the body that can be used for fuel. This is part of the reason that fasting produces the kind of health effects it does. Also, during this period of heightened ketosis the body is in a similar state as the one that occurs during sleep - a rest and detoxification cycle. It begins to focus on the removal of toxins from the body and the healing and regeneration of damaged tissues and organs.

[Mary Kay]

Aleesha, Good informative article...

Natural-girl, I've never had fibroids or endo, but have had another estrogen dominant symptom ---fibrocystic breasts, which have just recently returned.

Am going to write a thread about grapefruit and reducing your estrogen...probably no time now.

But interestingly --re that above article Aleesha posted, I had a molar pregnancy, whereby two sperm fertilize one egg. Rare. A normal placenta tries to develop but can't and instead, cysts form. I was waitinh for a natural miscarriage, as I was 51 and watched my hcg levels stop rising. Waited 11 weeks then went and retested, wondering what the heck was going on. After almost 3 mos, my hcg levels only came down 5000 points. The doc wanted to do a D&C and possible hysterectomy, so I began a raw-juice fast that day. One week later - actually, 8 days later, my hcg had come down 11,000 points! I believe that was no coincidence. So, I believe the same kinds of things as described in that article begin to happen, even while doing raw juice. Three weeks later, they came down a total of 35,000 or something like that and I had a natural miscarriage......

Anyway, fiber also helps to remove excess estrogen, as does your liver. However, too much grapefruit can interfere with the enzymes in your liver to process the estrogen. And with a combo juice, low-sugar smoothie fast, you can still maintain a "normal" life, whereas with a water fast only, you should remain in bed.

More than you asked....now to write that grapefruit one....

Hope this helps in some way. Sorry I don't have your exact answer.

Mary Kay

[blessing]

does it mean that Grape fruit is not good for someone who has fibroid tumors?

[blessing]

pls help, as i want to get rid of fibroids

[Mary Kay]

Yes, Blessing,

It means grapefruit more than say, twice a week, would stop the enzyme in your liver that gets rid of excess estrogen....and extra estrogen is the main cause of fibroids.

But I don't think you have to "never have another bite of grapefruit." I was juicing two to three gpfts a day!

HTH,

Mary Kay

[blessing]

Mary,

thanks dear.

The bleeding has stopped, and my tommy hurts now, may be is the fibroid.

Pls i need more information.

Thanks and Godbless

[blessing]

im still on 100% raw. No cooked food at all

[Fibroids27]

Hello all,

I am 27 and was diagnosed with multiple fibroids:mad:. I just wanted to know if fasting in combination with a raw diet actually gets rid of them? who has experienced this? I would like to begin my raw food life style with a water fast which I have begun. I would like to know how soon did you notice shrinkage in your fibroids during the fast? I need some encouragement & motivation;)

[Conscious Midwife]

I've known women that have benefitted from RAW when they had WOMB issues and even without staying 100% the key for them was to maintain a sugar free vegan diet without caffeine or processed foods.

They also benefitted by incorporating:

Womb yoga
Belly or sacred dance
REIKI
Health Thyself and Sacred Woman (books by Queen Afua)
Seminars and Health Info from Eshe Riviears (aka The Herb Lady)
A life affirming attitude!

[Mary Kay]

A dozen or more yrs ago, I was a moderator/host of an infertility forum. I saw women who weren't even raw get rid of fibroids without even being raw/eating clean, by eliminating sugar, caffeine and by incorporating progesterone.

I really believe in helping out your body - the estrogen dominance - by adding progesterone. Only vaginal, or creams, not oral, even if natural.

Doing any kind of cleanse on top of this is only going to help, I'd say as well as incorporating more cruciferous veggies, that get rid of excess bad estrogens.

HTH,

Mary Kay

[Natdream]

Hi Everyone,
I too have fibroids. I was diagnose last year. Recently, I have been looking in to doing 100% raw. I have bought raw food recipe books to help me with my journey. I started a little after Thanksgiving, and now I'm off the wagon. And now here comes Christmas. I will get it together. My question is for natural-girl. Does oil pulling help with fibroids? Also, I have also discovered in my research on fibroids that systemic enzymes helps with fibroids because it is doing the same thing as raw food is doing and that is getting rid of the fibrin that makes the fibroids. Does anyone know this to be a fact?

Thank you :-)

[lmuffin]

Hello

natural girl,

pls just want to know if you hav had any update about your fibroids shrinking..i was told i had a fibroid on the right of my uterus abt 6cm i just started juice fasting and about 50 % raw..and any time i do veggie fasting throughout the day i feel this stabbing pain where the fibroid is and feels sore but when i press down on d spot it doesnt hurt..it just cramps and hurts a bit..so pls just wanted to know if it was a sign that teh fibroid was shrinking ...

many thanks and i do hope youv been healed in Jesus name..:)

Hi, everyone,

I was wondering if there was anyone on this forum who has healed their fibroids by either doing an all raw diet or a juice fast? And if so, did your fibroids hurt when they were shrinking?

The reason I ask is that a few months ago, I began working up to an all raw diet. I am now about 99 per cent raw (100% on some days). Yesterday, I did a 24 hour juice fast. I've also been oil pulling for the last 3 days.

Well, I am now having some really severe pain (where the fibroids are) and I'm not sure if it is due to the fibroids shrinking or just regular fibroid pain. My stomach does seem much flatter than before, and one of my fibroids that I can feel seems to be smaller....so I'm hoping that the pain is from them shrinking. (I researched online and I did see that fibroids can severely hurt when shrinking.)

Anyway, I was just wondering if any women on this forum have successfully shrunk their fibroids doing raw food diet or juice fasting or oil pulling (or any combination of the above) and if so, did it hurt when the fibroids were shrinking?

Thanks!

[R'Mila]

I have 1 fibroid and 3 large cyst and, which I can feel gorge with blood and yes it hurts when they burst. I got rid of them once when I did a liver cleanse with a total body analysis practitioner. She encouraged me to go vegetarian, which I had been previously for 5 years and loosely thereafter. That's when I discovered raw foods and this forum. Only since reading this post (last month, actually), did I discover, that is the reason I was able to get rid of them, as they came back with a vengeance since I didn't keep up with either lifestyle.
In June, I went to the gyno and the sonogram revealed the cysts were 4.5 cm and the fibroid 1.5 cm. After I ovulated, I had the worst pain not only in that area, but also my joints, all on the right side of my body, which I always contributed to my Rheumatoid Arthritis. At the time I was taking a mild antiinflammatory for RA, but I figured it wasn't working if I still had that amount of pain, and decided to go back to a vegetarian, mostly raw lifestyle and quit taking the medicine.
This month, I had no pms, no menstural cramps, and no muscle tightening/joint pain as usual (menstruating as we speak). I did not take any medicine, not even over-the counter. I feel like the cysts have gone. I usually have a better 'feeling' 1 week after my period. I go back for another sonogram next month and will know for sure if they shrank or dissolved. I will report back.
I recommend you continue with the process and see if it works. Also note, that if you go back to the way you were eating, they will probably come back. Lesson learned.

[MysticTree]

I will report back.
I recommend you continue with the process and see if it works. Also note, that if you go back to the way you were eating, they will probably come back. Lesson learned.

That will be very interesting to hear about. My periods are so greatly improved after just 4 months raw. I think it likely I had fibroid/s because of the amount of pain I had but it wasn't diagnosed.

This last cycle was worse gain - no where near as bad as before though - and I attribute that to eating unpasteurised Miso the previous 2 weeks. I won't eat that again.

[Mary Kay]

Georgina,

I'm not understanding. Did the raw miso make you better or worse?

Thanks for sharing.

Mary Kay

[MysticTree]

Georgina,

I'm not understanding. Did the raw miso make you better or worse?

Thanks for sharing.

Mary Kay

Worse. At least I think it was the miso that is what caused it. It was the only thing that I ate in the run up to my period which I hadn't eaten before on raw. I've now cut it out again and I will see what happens next cycle.

[Arky]

Re' fibroids, look into proteolytic/fibrinolytic enzymes (but avoid if you have blood viscosity/clotting issues).

I'm not talking about digestive enzymes.

I mean serrapeptase, nattokinase, bromelain, papayin, pancreatin (yeah, I know it's not vegan but I'm just stating the facts).

High-end products include Vitalzym, Wobenzyme etc.

Doctor's Best do some good value potent enzyme blends. Their nattokinase, in particular, offers excellent bang-for-the-buck.


Being male, I've never had uterine fibroids, of course, but I learned about proteolytic/fibrinolytic enzymes when dealing with some hypertrophic scars and thus I am familiar with the various applications they are used for. These days, I routinely consume nattokinase on a maintenance basis. If you'd like to learn more, Doctor Wong is a well-known proponent of systemic enzyme therapy, and Google is also very informative if you search 'enzymes fibroids'

As always, do your own research and ideally consult with a qualified doctor before using supplements.


In terms of juice fasting, this may allow the body some opportunity to divert its energies towards repair rather than digestion and excretion but I would anticipate better breakdown of unnecessary tissues with the use of water-fasting. That said, water-fasting is not for everyone and does have its risks, on a number of levels. Whilst I generally favour an entirely-natural, dietary approach to dealing with health issues, sometimes this is not necessarily the safest or most effective approach. If I had fibroids, I'd personally opt for the supplemental proteolytic/fibrinolytic enzyme approach as it is effective and relatively safe. It did my hypertrophic scars a great deal of good, and the nattokinase I continue to consume regularly has noticeable positive effects upon my circulation (and I say that as someone who's at a healthy weight, with a healthy diet, and only in my mid-30s).

[R'Mila]

Been meaning to report back on my cysts. I had 3 when I thought I had 2. One was actually close to 6 cm. The sonogram revealed 2 shrank to 1 cm and the other was gone. I told the tech about my lifestyle change and she said she thinks the other 2 will dissolve and they don't follow anything under 3 cm, so I will have to wait until next year's exam to see how they're doing unless I experience extreme symptoms again. I am pleased overall.

[Mary Kay]

Yay! Way to go R'Mila!!!

Mary Kay

[R'Mila]

Thanks, Mary Kay. This forum really helps to keep me going!

[MysticTree]

Been meaning to report back on my cysts. I had 3 when I thought I had 2. One was actually close to 6 cm. The sonogram revealed 2 shrank to 1 cm and the other was gone. I told the tech about my lifestyle change and she said she thinks the other 2 will dissolve and they don't follow anything under 3 cm, so I will have to wait until next year's exam to see how they're doing unless I experience extreme symptoms again. I am pleased overall.

That is such good news. I am not surprised because eating raw has helped me so much in that area although I have never been diagnosed with fibroids. My cycle is a breeze when I eat a raw diet.

[aviatrix79]

In my early to late teens I had severe endo... one of the reasons that made me go raw. At one point I developed a fibroid cyst. It was only small but I had lots of lemon juice, coconut oil, evening primrose oil and the thing that I believe really shrunk it was 1 tbsp of Black Strap Molasses with water and 1 tbsp of ACV. It was disgusting to drink but it really helped. Three months later, the fibroid was gone completely... they couldn't find it in the scan. I still drink it every now and then as a preventative method and because it's a great source of iron, magnesium, potassium and calcium. Going on raw has kept my endo at bay and only came back when I went off it once after travelling a lot and once when I was severely malnourished due to doctors prescribing me with meds that thinned the lining of my stomach (for a rib injury believe it or not)... but that's another story. If anyone tries the Black Strap Molasses, make sure you get one that is organic and unsulphured from a health food shop.

[natural-girl]

Hi, everyone, I'm back.

Well, no such luck with the fibroids and raw food diet. It's a year (or two?) later, and my fibroids have grown to almost twice the size they were. Last year, my uterus was the size of a 12 week uterus, and today my doctor said it is the size of a 20 week uterus. I already had one surgery to just remove the fibriods 12 years ago, and now they are back, and growing with a vengeance.

Previously, I was totally against a hsyterectomy, but now I am having shortness of breath when I sit down or lie down or try to bike ride. ( I get short of breath because they push up against my lungs - my biggest fibroid is at the top of my uterus. My doctor said the same thing happens with pregnant women when they get to the part in their pregnantcy when they get this big- they get short of breath because everthything is just pushing up against everything.)

So, I have decided to finally schedule surgery, just because I'm 43, single, can't have kids, and I am just tired of looking pregnant. I haven't had any dates in years, and I know it's because I look totally pregnant. (Who wants to date a pregnant woman?) I went to Mardi Gras this past year, and my friends took pictures, and when I saw myself in the pictures, I freaked - I TOTALLY look 6 months pregnant. My belly is just huge and protruding. I'm just tired of it all. I can't wait to get these things out now.

I will say, however, that I managed my other symptoms (pain, bleeding, irregular cycle) with homeopathic remedies. Homeopathic remedies worked GREAT for all my other symptoms - except for the fact that they didn't keep them from continuing to grow.

I did lose a ton of weight going raw, though, and I felt great when I was eating raw. So, after my surgery in August, I'll go raw again.

[Mary Kay]

Natural Girl,

I am so sorry to hear this. You know, just eating raw is not NECESSARILY enough. You've got to do it properly. I mean, no really sweet things etc. What did you do? I mean did you try to fast? Did you try the progesterone? I just want to reiterate that I have known of many women who helped heal their fibroids who weren't even raw, but did eat better.

Heck, I'd even do Lupron for a short time as a last-ditch effort. In case you don't know, Lupron is a drug that shuts down your hormones (including the bad estrogens that cause cancers) I would do this for a short time and take large doses of progesterone, all the while eatingor juicing or blending lots of cruciferous veggies.

Sorry to be so repetitive, just trying to give you a last-ditch effort to avoid surgery. Pls look up some info about Dr. John Lee progesterone fibroids"

And thanks for reporting back. Pls let us know how everything goes.

Best of luck.

Mary Kay

You know,

[Arky]

In addition to proteolytic enzymes (and cleansing juices), don't forget the importance of ensuring good liver function (yes, there I go again, harping-on about liver function! :-P :

http://sensiblehealth.com/Journey-04.xhtml (http://sensiblehealth.com/Journey-04.xhtml)

[Mary Kay]

Well, Arky, you just go ahead and harp on! Your advice sounds good to me. And I checked out that article you posted in the previous post and it starts out by using a quote from Dr. John Lee --who is a big promoter of progesterone and used to be a guru-hero of mine.

Thanks,

Mary Kay

[MysticTree]

Liver function can't be harped on about too much really.

[best4u]

Thanks to your Post I read it with little bit confusion . .. .

But I got online solution for my confusion. . .!!

[wannabehealthy]

i have fibroids. they are big. i don't want to get surgery. i really need help. i'm sick of these things. i'm trying to eat healthy right now. i'm not on a raw diet, but i do eat foods raw sometimes. i just want to be healthy. i'm sick of being sick. what do i have to do before i go raw? do i just jump right into it? i have tried eating raw before. i've done it many times. i just keep failing at it. LOL

i love this site. you guys are so informative. thank God for you!

[wannabehealthy]

Liver function can't be harped on about too much really.

how do i get my liver to function better?

[SunshineMN]

Wannabehealthy, you should join the 30 day raw challenge thread where you can get lots of support daily. It truly does help to "surround" yourself with people that want to help and see you succeed. We all help keep each other on track with reporting what we eat daily and providing encouragement or ideas on what to eat. And if you slip, we're there to help you through that too!

[wannabehealthy]

Wannabehealthy, you should join the 30 day raw challenge thread where you can get lots of support daily. It truly does help to "surround" yourself with people that want to help and see you succeed. We all help keep each other on track with reporting what we eat daily and providing encouragement or ideas on what to eat. And if you slip, we're there to help you through that too!

thank you so much! i will definitely check it out. i really don't want an operation. i want to do it the natural way. thanks again! :)