Is the need for Colon Hydrotherapy a scam?

[Orange]

I think it is and I think too many raw food books promote it.

All one needs to do is have one colonoscopy from their medical doctor to prove it. Likely 5 dollars worth in laxatives and suppositories and the colon is clean as a whistle factually proven by camera. There is no 10 pounds of old impacted fecal matter this or that blah blah blah. They do this test looking for perforations or tumors or other such things, and barring any of that the test will be clean.

To spend 50 to 100 on colon hydrotherapy is expensive and unnecessary. It is a glorified laxative.

[Aleesha Sattva]

I don't think it's a scam... anymore than doing a douche is a scam. I don't agree with either one, but it doesn't make it a scam.

Different things assist different people. Some people loooove their colonics, others don't. Some love to fast, others wouldn't fast ever. Doesn't make one person right and the other wrong... just makes them different.

[Dimond]

I agree with Aleesha.

[debilana]

Ever since I had one done after 3 days of juice fasting and gobs of mucus and other odd things came flying out of me- I am a believer. I have had a few before and since, but nothing like that one. I have done the other cleanses, but it was never the same. I do think fasting beforehand was key tho- it gave the body a chance to clean out some really disgusting ...crap!:D

I do very much believe we are all different. Just do what works for you. A scam is only a scam if it is always wrong for everyone...like Bernie M stealing investments. Health is more in the eye of the doer.

[sport]

A lot of people that do it are not raw or even healthy eaters. I know that it has helped a lot of people.
I think that it would be important for fasters as fasting releases toxins and without fibre in the diet the body has no way to excrete them so they will stay there and be reabsorbed. This defeats the purpose of fasting.

[nadien alexandra]

I agree with aleesha.

My dad has had one, and a lot of things were released from his intestines. And he claimed to feel a lot better after. lighter, he said. (note: he eats a very Meat/Dairy/bread heavy SAD diet)

But is it necessary? Maybe not if you perform other forms of detox and eat the right things that will help clean the intestinal track and walls.

It is too invasive for me, to be honest. hehe

[lovenlife]

Hmmm...no scam...besides all the fecal matter,there is sooo much mocroscopic debris that comes out, plus gas and the water actually smooths out the colon and encourages the perisitalic action.

Colonics are powerful for ones health!

[lodestar]

never done it. toyed with the idea. seems unnatural, unnecessary. after all... eating a plant based diet should be enough.

[JennaHoneyBear]

I had one, and it didn't do anything for me. $80 wasted :mad:

but hey, if it works for some...

[sport]

never done it. toyed with the idea. seems unnatural, unnecessary. after all... eating a plant based diet should be enough.

I agree with you on a day to day basis but if you are fasting or doing a cleanse then it is a different matter.

[rawmiss]

Here is how to make your own muciod plaque by drying colon cleansing material into a hard mass:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Want-a-colon-cleanse--Get-a-colonoscopy


BUT . . . but, but,

the dozens of pictures of mucoid plaque that I've seen always show a "rope" of plaque which can be picked up with a stick, which is not something you can make with just colon cleansing material.

So I think that there is a clear lining (mucus from the nose is clear after all so why wouldn't colon mucus be clear too) which the colon cleansing material dislodges.

I don't think that colon cleansing is useless.

[sport]

I am not sure that mucoid plaque is the most important thing to dislodge. It will just be replaced by the body again over time.

[Revvell]

I am not sure that mucoid plaque is the most important thing to dislodge. It will just be replaced by the body again over time.

And, I don't brush my teeth because the plaque will be replaced over time.

[sport]

And, I don't brush my teeth because the plaque will be replaced over time.
Yes but brushing your teeth is fun.

[Revvell]

Yes but brushing your teeth is fun.

Really? What am I missing? ;)

[sport]

Really? What am I missing? ;)

That clean refreshed feeling. You do not get that after having your colon cleansed.

[Aleesha Sattva]

so true and i find that no one cares whether my butt is minty fresh! http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x87/recyclinggoddess/23_33_11.gif okay... well maybe someone might... http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x87/recyclinggoddess/attachment-1.php.gif

[Revvell]

That clean refreshed feeling. You do not get that after having your colon cleansed.

I understand many do.

[sport]

I understand many do.

No kinky talk allowed here.

[sport]

so true and i find that no one cares whether my butt is minty fresh! okay... well maybe someone might... ]

Lucky You. What more can we ask for in life.

[goddessdanielle]

I've had one, and It was ok, nothing super duper amazing, but it was ok... I will probably try it again... maybe a few more times...

[lovenlife]

Yes but brushing your teeth is fun.

colon cleansing is fun too...haha. The high afterwords and the clean feeling is out of this world! I attribute my awesome health to colon cleansing.

As for a fresh clean feeling (with no hint of mint) that is a definite for me. The best part! I swear by these.

[Revvell]

No kinky talk allowed here.

See LovenLife's post. :p

[Dimond]

For those who just have one without results, it's very rare that just one is enough. Usually you need several in a row to see real results. Kind of like fasting. Normally a day or two isn't enough for real healing.

[walnutty]

Yes, as Orange states you can see on film that the "colon" is clean after you drink several liters of poison so that you can have a colonoscopy...

BUT...doesn't colon hydrotherapy clean out the whole intestine....which is like 20 feet long?

Colonscopy films only show the colon.

I thought the point of colon hydrotherapy was to deep clean the intestines not just clean the colon.

Please help!

[Orange]

Well, they have that miniature camera pill that you swallow and that photographs the entire digestive system. I'm sure an internist could be asked if there are any such things as ropes, and 10 pounds of matter stuck and plastering the walls of the intestines. I'd say, NOPE, clean as a whistle. You don't swallow the pill without having fasted.

I brought this thread because if a thing aint true, then OUT it. And the whole encrusted autointoxication blah blah is a load of it.

It is not that I support or don't support others paying for the services.

I'm saying that what is purported to be the NEED is a bunch of hooey. Fasting or not. Let's not take as truth what has been stated for decades from Norman Walker to the Braggs, to all the rest. If it aint true it aint true. And any internist who has had the pill pictures, the colonoscopy and performed surgeries would attest that it is a work of fiction repeated so often that it is accepted as true.

My two cents..

[sport]

If you are fasting then you are not having bowel movements so how do you move the toxins out of your system.

[Orange]

Who says you need to?

Did cavemen shove hoses up their HooHa? Do you really believe this piece of technology is necessary? People have cycled through feasts and famines, perhaps dying of starvation but never dying of autointoxication due to fasting.

[Revvell]

...perhaps dying of starvation but never dying of autointoxication due to fasting.

How do you know this?

[sport]

Yes but the purpose of a fast is to move the toxins out of your system so why make it hard on them to get out.

[Orange]

Show me the clogged up impacted fecal matter from a REAL medical book.

Show me proof that your body is not designed to remove toxins from everyday life and through fasting. Where is the proof? Raw food writers? Isn't that where the original information came from?

It's raw food, it's natural and good for you. To have periods of not eating is natural and good for you. The rest is the same reiterated spiel that you won't find ANY real science to back it up.

So fast as have spiritual people for thousands of years have done, aint none of them going for colonhydrotherapy.

[RawKnitster]

the dozens of pictures of mucoid plaque that I've seen always show a "rope" of plaque which can be picked up with a stick

Those pictures are part of an hyped campaign for a particular product. I'm pretty sure the pictures are fake and that the advertising for this product should be considered a scam.

That doesn't address the colon cleansing question. I don't know anything about that, and don't care to try it.

[Revvell]

So fast as have spiritual people for thousands of years have done, aint none of them going for colon hydrotherapy.

And they weren't eating the crap so many have eaten for so many years. They were eating real food with real fiber and drinking real water so their bodies were doing what they were really meant to do.

[rkk]

So fast as have spiritual people for thousands of years have done, aint none of them going for colonhydrotherapy.

Actually, people have been cleaning out their colons for thousands of years... look up the history of colon hydrotherapy. As far as spiritual practices goes, find out more about Ayurveda, which is an old system of Indian medicine that is still being used today. They use something called Basti in which oil is inserted in the rectum and used as an enema. I think some kind of herbal water can be used as well. I've read that their system has other benefits over the colonics that we do today, but at least it shows that colon hydrotherapy is not a new practice.

[terry brown]

This is a topic near and dear to me right now as I have been researching this and am now on a fast doing a colon cleanse.
I am here to testify that the stuff you see in those ads is for real!!!

Now heres the deal.... I do not think in the majority of cases if comes out easy or with just a few colonics. I had 4 colonics last month and released very little. I did feel great afterwards though.
I have read that it usually takes up to 10 colonics to start to break it loose.
The matter is so old and caked on that it takes some work to remove it.
I am using the protocol of Bernard Jenson and V E Irons.
I am happy with the results so far!!

[Revvell]

Yay Terry! Thank you for sharing. Most would have given up after 3 or so... you did how many before seeing the stuffs?

[terry brown]

Thanks Revvell!
I started this program this week http://www.veirons.com/
I have had 5 colonics (over the past month)then started with the fasting and supplements. I am certain the colonics started the break down process.
Things started moving real quickly even though this is just my second day on the program. (I also prepared by doing just smoothies for 5 days)

It's all very fascinating. I am very happy that I am seeing results!

I sure never expected my raw journey to bring me here, but it has and it feels right!!

[lavendarJ]

Thanks Revvell!
I started this program this week http://www.veirons.com/
I have had 5 colonics (over the past month)then started with the fasting and supplements. I am certain the colonics started the break down process.
Things started moving real quickly even though this is just my second day on the program. (I also prepared by doing just smoothies for 5 days)

It's all very fascinating. I am very happy that I am seeing results!

I sure never expected my raw journey to bring me here, but it has and it feels right!!

Very true Terry & Revvell. Colonics were a life saver (I think literally) for me - thank God I discovered the benefits of this long before my raw vegan journey. I also know that when you do a series in a row it makes a big difference as far as loosening things up goes because years ago, that was my experience too (where you mentioned not much coming out initially).

The first colonic I ever received years ago was from a "world-renowned" place in Chicago -A major high-priced bad experience that could have been deadly if I hadn't had enough sense to recognize that my colon was near its bursting point-- and the therapist was a poor communicator, etc. etc. Since then I have found someone very passionate, professional, knowledged, practiced, and interested in my doo doo :D. So, I stick with her- started doing them seasonally and then discovered the benefits of 3 in a row (which my colon lady would only do after she determined you to be in serious need - which I was at that time with my chronic constipation other digestion issues).

[joya]

I brought this thread because if a thing aint true, then OUT it.

The thing is... for a lot of people it IS true.

I actually tried my first colonic just the other week. Then had another a few days later. And I definitely felt it was highly beneficial. *shrug* To each her own. But to answer your question in your original post, no personally I don't think it is a scam.

[Evie]

I have always wanted to try hydrocolon therapy. I think it sounds beneficial. But, can not afford the price tag at this time. I can see how waste material could build up over time. I do believe it needs to be tried or researched objectively before passing judgment on it. What is Alissa's views on this?