Which green food product ingredients are better ?

[Vrindavan]

Which green food product ingredients are better ?

1. Vibrant Health, Green Vibrance, Version 9.0, 24.34 oz (690 g)

vs.

2. HealthForce Nutritionals, Vitamineral Green, Version 4.8, 17.65 oz (500 g)



1.
Nutrient Dense, Healing & Support Foods
Amount Per Serving
Spirulina (certified organic) 1,500 mg
Alfalfa grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg
Barley grass juice powder (cert. organic) 570 mg
Oat grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg
Wheat grass juice powder (cert. organic) 570 mg
Hydrilla verticillata (wild crafted) 500 mg
Alfalfa sprout powder (certified organic) 440 mg
Kamut grass juice powder (cert. organic) 400 mg
Chlorella, pharmaceutical grade, soft cell 300 mg
Beet juice powder (certified organic) 250 mg
Parsley, freeze dried (certified organic) 250 mg
Zucchini powder, freeze dried 250 mg
Carrot root powder (certified organic) 150 mg
Green bean, freeze-dried 120 mg
Broccoli sprout powder (certified organic) 100 mg
Spinach pdr., freeze dried (certified organic) 100 mg
Cell membrane & Nerve support
Lecithin pdr. (Soy), (non-GMO) 98% oil free 750 mg
Vitamin E, (water dispersible d-alpha-tocopheryl succinate) 100 IU
Policosanol (60% Octacosanol; from rice bran wax) 5 mg
High Fiber Foods & Prebiotics
Larch arabinogalactan (FiberAid AG) 600 mg
Fructo-oligosaccharides 600 mg
Stabilized Brown rice Bran 500 mg
Whole Apple powder (certified organic) 250 mg
Milled Flaxseed concentrate (certified organic, de-oiled, non-GMO) 200 mg
Antioxidants and Circulatory Support
Acerola berry juice powder (25% nat. vit. C, certified organic) 200 mg
Silymarin milk thistle extract, 80% silybin (Silybum marianum) 60 mg
Ginkgo biloba extract, (24% ginkgoflavonglycosides/6% terpene lactones) 20 mg
Grape seed standardized extract (95% polyphenols, 90% proanthocyanidins) 20 mg
Green Tea standardized extract (95% polyphenols, 80% catechins, 45% EGCG) 20 mg
Pomegranate extract, (40% ellagic acid) 20 mg
Adaptogens
Schizandra berry extract, 2% schizandrin 150 mg
Eleutherococcus senticosus root extract, 0.8% eleutherosides 80 mg
Suma (Pfaffia paniculata) root extract, (2.5% beta-ecdysterone) 60 mg
Immune Support
Astragalus membranaceus extract, 70% polysaccharides 60 mg
Larch arabinogalactan (ImmunEnhancer AG) 30 mg
Beta 1,3- 1,6 glucans, 70% (yeast) 30 mg
Sea Vegetable Complex (providing Iodine + trace minerals)
Rockweed (certified organic) 360 mg
Bladderwrack (wild harvested) 180 mg
Nova Scotia Dulse (certified organic) 180 mg
Probiotic Blend
Dairy-free Probiotic Cultures from 12 strains (25 billion total at date of manufacture)
Lactobacillus rhamnosus HA-111 2.5 billion
Lactobacillus rhamnosus B, HA-114 2.5 billion
Lactobacillus acidophilus HA-122 2.5 billion
Bifidobacterium bifidum HA-132 1.25 billion
Bifidobacterium breve HA-129 2.5 billion
Bifidobacterium longum HA-135 2.5 billion
Lactobacillus helveticus HA-128 0.5 billion
Lactobacillus paracasei HA-108 2.5 billion
Lactobacillus plantarum HA-119 2.5 billion
Lactococcus lactis HA-136 2.5 billion
Streptococcus thermophilus HA-110 0.75 billion
Propionibacterium shermanii HA-182 2.5 billion
Enzyme Complex
Protease 4.5, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT
Protease 6.0, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT
Lipase (Aspergillus niger) 150 FCCLU
Amylase (Aspergillus oryzae) 6 DU
Invertase (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) 1 SU
Cellulase (Trichoderma longbrachiatum) 7 CU
Skeletal Support
Vitamin D3 (in organic alfalfa base) 1,000 IU
Phyto-Boron (patented, from calcium fructo borate) 3 mg
Fortifying Phyto-Minerals
Phyto-Chromium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 80 mcg
Phyto-Selenium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 50 mcg
Tonics
Ginger root powder (certified organic) 20 mg
Cayenne pepper powder (certified organic) 2 mg
Palatability Factor
Mango powder, (freeze dried) 100 mg



2. Ingredients: V4.8 100% Superfoods 100% TruGanic
From the Land Moringa Leaf From the Waters Enzymes (optimum absorption +)
Nettle Leaf Yacon Leaf Spirulina Protease · Amylase
Shavegrass (Horsetail) Nopal Cactus Chlorella Lipase · Cellulase
Alfalfa Leaf Juice Chickweed From the Oceans Bromelain · Papain
Dandelion Leaf Juice Ginger Root Icelandic Kelp Alpha-Galactosidase
Barley Grass Juice Broccoli Juice Dulse Energetics
Oat Grass Juice Kale Juice Nori Shilajit
Barley Grass Spinach Juice Alaria Magnetic · Homeopathic
Wheat Grass Parsley Juice Bladderwrack Energetic · Vibrational
American Basil Carob Pod
Holy Basil/Tulsi Amla Berry
Probiotics: Massive array of implantable species and Natural Soil Organisms (NSOs). Laboratory grown. 10,000,000,000+ hardy probiotics per 2 heaping tablespoons.
Magnetically sanitized and energized. 100% actual food, raw food

[lovenlife]

Are you kidding? Or is this for real?

Nutrient dense? UMMMM Apples, pears, berries, fresh greens, more fresh greens and all others of the fruits and veggies one can eat!

[Green_Woman]

Fresh greens, eaten in good quantity, especially when run through a blender or food processors so the cell walls are broken down for you. :)


Make a GREEN SMOOTHIE and watch your health grow. ;)

[Vrindavan]

Warning Warning

Green Vibrance is not VEGAN

reply from the company

Vitamin D3 which comes from Lanolin (from sheep’s wool).

So it is not good to compare it with Vitamineral Green now

but other Green Vibrance ingredients seems very healthy.

[Vrindavan]

do you know of any "good & not so pricey" freeze dried grass powder products ?

Sweet Wheat is an option, but very high price.

Otherwise, low temp. heat dried product is the only way for affordable juice powder

[Aleesha Sattva]

i have purchased dried wheat grass in the past. didn't like it so i never did use it. but it was raw (i checked with the company)

[TaupeRawMan]

I like Just Barley by Pure Planet and Greener Grasses by Healthforce Nutritionals.

[Vrindavan]

>> Greener Grasses contains 5 different grasses. These grasses are grown under ideal conditions and therefore contain extremely high nutrient levels (including vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, chlorophyll, and fiber). 100% actual food nutrients.
Greener Grasses contains both whole leaf grasses with fiber, and 100% pure grass juices (33:1 concentrate). Our whole leaf grasses are ground into a fine powder, allowing greater nutrient access and utilization while still providing essential fiber. Greener Grasses also contains 100% pure grass juice powders, produced without any carrier agents that would dilute the product (such as maltodextrin and brown rice).



Not sure why they have to mix two types together in one product ?
- whole leaf powder
- juice powder

people prefer just juice powder don't like the whole leaf powder ??

[stiggs]

>> Greener Grasses contains 5 different grasses. These grasses are grown under ideal conditions and therefore contain extremely high nutrient levels (including vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, chlorophyll, and fiber). 100% actual food nutrients.
Greener Grasses contains both whole leaf grasses with fiber, and 100% pure grass juices (33:1 concentrate). Our whole leaf grasses are ground into a fine powder, allowing greater nutrient access and utilization while still providing essential fiber. Greener Grasses also contains 100% pure grass juice powders, produced without any carrier agents that would dilute the product (such as maltodextrin and brown rice).



Not sure why they have to mix two types together in one product ?
- whole leaf powder
- juice powder

people prefer just juice powder don't like the whole leaf powder ??

maybe it sounds like it's actually healthier than the real thing? :rolleyes:
I guess they want you to think its full of nutrients from the juice concentrate and also contains fibre to be 'more complete'.

how come you are interested in all these supplements and not fresh, live foods?

[Vrindavan]

>> full of nutrients from the juice concentrate and also contains fibre to be 'more complete'.

if this is the reason, all those grass powder products in the market
say we have 100% leaf turned into powder serve the purpose already

why they have to say they have leaf powder and also
the juice powder separately ?

confused !

i cannot get fresh grass juice at my location
and i do not have a quality juicer, so these type of product is not bad except the cost

[Green_Woman]

Get a blender. Make a big Green Smoothie. Drink it down. Take a deep breathe. Soak up all that delicious, whole, complete nutrition.

Wow, wasn't that simple? ;)

[Sarox]

I prefer the nutrients still living.

but I still roll with the internal dialogue ( raw supplements or not?)

Until I see the data from appropriate scientific experiements that indicate any additional raw supplements are not useful, I'm probably going to have a few containers of them sharing the pantry shelf with my nuts n seeds.

[SevenKindsOfCookie]

I keep hearing great things about BarleyMax from Hallelujah Acres but I've never been attracted to powdered stuff. I can see how it would be practical for people on the move though.

[Vrindavan]

>> BarleyMax from Hallelujah Acres

any online store selling them ?



>> Get a blender. Make a big Green Smoothie. Drink it down. Take a deep breathe. Soak up all that delicious, whole, complete nutrition.
Wow, wasn't that simple?

yes, first buy only organic version(very expensive compared as well), next, still have to clean carefully the food, what about food irradiation done to conventional vegetables ?

After i have purchased a good blender or juicer, and i have to figure out if i better make in batch(not as fresh if drink later) of juice or smoothie, because different person in the household may want to drink it at different time. If not in batch, it is more of a task to clean repeatly.

[Vrindavan]

agree or disagree, please comment.

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a response directly from Jameth

1. Why not use freeze dried method ?

Great process, but inferior to what is used for Spirulina, Chlorella, Grass Juices, Vegetable Juices, Enzymes, and most other items. Drying process goes straight to DRY from wet. Freeze drying freezes the products first, then dries them. No need to change state 2x. Each state change reduces lifeforce. Direct to dry changes state 1x. After frozen in freeze dried, you can dry the product at ANY temperature you want, including 2,000 degrees! Just means you froze it first. Freeze drying WAS the best way for certain products decades ago when other methods used heat and there was the impression that freeze drying did not (in many cases it did not but others it did). Other methods not better.

With things like Maca, Nettles, Horesetail, Burdock, they are just dried with air naturally. No benefit to freeze drying these items.


2. Why not just grass juice powder ?

Not sure why Greener Grasses or Vitamineral Green
have to mix two types together in one product ?
- whole leaf powder
- juice only powder
juice only powder are better tasting, easier to absorb, more expensive than
whole leaf powder.



Pure juice powders are not better tasting. Diluted juice powders (like Kyo Green and Green Magna + others) are diluted with approx 30-50% maltodextrin and brown rice. This dilution creates a milder taste. Whole Leaf products, are about 15% fiber. This could be looked at as the drying carrier (as the malto and rice are above). Therefore, “dilution” is only 85%. HealthForce juices are pure dried, with no carriers, so are very strong, much stronger tasting than the whole leaf.

Regarding easier to absorb, partly true and extremely true. You have to break down every cell wall to absorb the interior contents. With juice, this is done for you, so 100% absorption. Of course, if your juice is 50% diluted as above, it is only 50% absorbable essentially. This is why HealthForce has spent so much time, effort, and money grinding so incredibly fine to a tiny particle size, especially compared to other companies, in which particle size is not even on their radar. HealthForce whole leaf powders absorb hundreds or thousands of times better than coarsely ground items. Compare Greener Grasses (super fine and highly absorbable) to Amazing Grass (super COARSE and highly Unabsorbable). HealthForce powders are MUCH more expensive to produce due to insanely fine grinding.

Why not use just juices? The fiber has benefits for detox that juices can never have. Also promotes bowel movements. Also there are phytonutrients in fiber. Fiber is not just “roughage”. This is how nature intended us to consume foods, in whole state, but fully chewed so every cell is burst. We do not yet have 100% cell bursting on the grasses (close though – and no one else even approaches this). We do have this on the Kelp and Dulse. I add the juices to offset our lack of 100% cell burst. Nutrient per dollar, when comparing COARSE ground powders to PURE juices, PURE juices are FAR better value. However, when comparing nutrients per dollar in HelathForce grass powders vs juice powders, our grass powders are much better value for consumer and better overall for health. Both are good, just as whole echinacea is good but so is the extract. Future grinds will essentially make juices unnecessary from real perspective, but will keep them for their good impression.



3. Magnetically sanitized and energized. Want to know more about this

Innovation created at HealthForce. We are able to dramatically reduce undesirable microbes with this method. This is withOUT using ETO sterillization or irradiation. At the end of this process, we use a special magnet combination to dramatically enhance the energetics of the products. More to come on this process. Exciting future.


Thanks so much

You are welcome!

Jameth

[michigan roman]

you can buy rye / hard wheat / barley in bulk cheap / dollar per pound , at like whole fod markets and others . grow in cheap plastic dish pans in 5" of soil very quickly / easily . within a week the grass is 5" , cut off at soil with kitchen shears / cut into blender half full of water handfull of grass - cut into 1 " peices or itll wrap around blades and stop blemnder / blend up and strain out grass for your super cheap / healthy super food

and i bet this way is healthier than every expensive suppliment mentioned