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Stayn'alive
11-25-2009, 04:50 AM
Hi everyone,
I have a question. A lot of raw foodists talk how amazing green-leafy-vegetables are and they tell to eat those greens every single day, nomatter where you live. But what if i live in the cold-climate place where localy grown greens is available for less then 5 monthns in a year? Of course i can buy some greens that are brought from other countries, but they all are non-organic and they don't have the taste, nor the smell of the real localy grown vegetables. Sometimes they taste like plastic. And if nature don't give greens for us than maybe that means that we should abstain from it during the cold season. What you think about it?

Suz58
11-25-2009, 04:55 AM
You may be right, but what else are you eating. Is everything else local and organic? Even in cold climes there are normally cabbages, spinach and lambs lettuce and winter salads. You could also sprout seeds in your house.

fuggles
11-25-2009, 06:05 AM
grow sprouts,

theres your answer

plus , they are 10 times more nutritious than most vegetables.

marc
11-25-2009, 06:39 AM
if nature don't give greens for us than maybe that means that we should abstain from it during the cold season. What you think about it?

true..but orginaly you are not frome where you are now.:D


go back where human in north america are frome. and you will see.

we are not made to be in cold climate...if we were we would be full off fur like all other animal made for it. pure and simple.

there,s not many place where you cant find good product bio..even if its not locel..its still bio not that bad i would say.

i live up north me to..and we dont have veg for the next 6 month but do have loal health market that do sell bio veg/fruit frome other area or frome other part off the wrld and its ok.

i dont care bying banana frome onother country they are hard to get ground localy here in canada.:D

marc

anniez
11-25-2009, 07:29 AM
I can get organic greens in my supermarket. Have you checked it out?

Annie

Tsurugi_Oni
11-25-2009, 10:34 AM
I think both you and Marc are pretty right on this one.

On one hand you have to realize the energy costs of having an ultimate green diet year round in relation to the rest of the world, and the environment.

Then you have to consider energy spent vs earned. on caloric crops. Is it better to eat non-100% ideal foods + extra anti-oxidants to be 2x as efficient as eating only ideal foods? Every creature has preferred foods, although they don't always eat them all the time.

And the social component. We live in a world where 99% of the world is flowing against you, which makes everything you do much harder. How can we create a system where the ideal can be obtained with ease?

Ohhhh the woes of raw.....

Shine
11-25-2009, 11:17 AM
My local organic farmer just put in a greenhouse to grow greens all winter and living in maine - that will be a blessing!! Maybe ask a local farmer about this? Also, I know the HFS still have organic greens all winter. I am going to try sprouting this year and set up my own little window green house.

brendasue
11-25-2009, 01:49 PM
Humans are so adaptable. It's the main reason we have survived on the planet. We are the only animal that can adapt to their environment. We can adapt when it's cold, when it's hot, when it's wet or when it's dry. No other animal can do this. They are prisoners of their environments. We can also adapt to our food sources. We eat what's available and we survive.

Our ability to commune with each other is another reason we have survived in this world. When we learned to use fire, we would gather together around the fire and became a family. It's one of the theories on how we started cooking food. Is it any wonder the gathering of people, eating is such a strong connection for us? It's who we are.

B

Green_Woman
11-25-2009, 02:41 PM
Marc hit the nail on the head. You didn't originate in a Cold Climate. ;)

Tsurugi_Oni
11-25-2009, 03:05 PM
I think it's a philosophical question.

How do we want to live in Alaska and still eat bananas? How do you run a farm and take a 2 week vacation? We complain about pesticides in our food yet we consciously choose the lifestyle that comes with intensive agriculture.

I don't think it's possible to live a successful life if we don't start lookin at life hollistically.

sport
11-25-2009, 06:49 PM
You can freeze greens. When you put them in a plastic bag and take the air out they take up very little space. You could probably do enough to give you 3 green smoothies a week during the non green period.
You should also buy things like chlorella and vitamineral green.

Tsurugi_Oni
11-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Sure, if you have the deep freezers for it. They're a great investment.