Alkaline vs. Acidic foods

[RawPaw]

I can't seem to find a chart that is definitive on the subject.

It seems that one website claims a certain food to be alkaline and another claims the same food to be acidic. It's driving me nuts. :mad:

Any suggestions?

[Veganforlife]

I don't have access to the internet right now orI'd be glad to look for that, but lemons are one of the highest alkaline-producing foods. Do a google search...

[Aleesha Sattva]

i just eat raw live foods and don't worry about it. ;)

[Moretta]

i just eat raw live foods and don't worry about it.

Exactly that.

[Revvell]

i just eat raw live foods and don't worry about it. ;)

There ya go!

[DopeRawAbundance]

Here's a lil some'n some'n, the CaPNaK chart:

http://www.eco-eating.com/chart_unclear.jpg

That one at the bottom in the red that you cant see is Phosphorous Residue/Acid. So a general guideline is that Calcium dominant foods like greens are alkaline forming, and Phosporous dominant foods like nuts and grains are acid forming. So you just balance those types o' foods out. As the earlier posts said, dont go apebutt trying to balance them out. But if you feel acidy feelings in your stomach it might be a good idea to eat some greens.

[margoss]

I have a book that I go by.

[RawTruth]

I can't seem to find a chart that is definitive on the subject.

It seems that one website claims a certain food to be alkaline and another claims the same food to be acidic. It's driving me nuts. :mad:

Any suggestions?

With all due respect to the just eat live foods line of thought, that used to be me. Big time. For years. But, I found that it actually does matter in many cases.

I suggest you get it from a book or other printed source. They're always more reliable than the internet, anyway!
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[rawrawks]

To keep ones body in an alkaline state as much as possible helps keep the body in balance as well as prevents disease. Acid environs make one more susceptible to disease.

I have a book called "Alkalinize or Die" by David Jubb. It is pretty profound. And important... yes.

I accomplish this with green juice. I can actualy tell when I am in an acid state right away. So I make green juice and get back to alkaline. This matters alot!

[RawPaw]

i just eat raw live foods and don't worry about it. ;)

:D

True…but I'm trying something out hoping to get at some specific ailments—and also, prostate difficulties run in the family and from what I gather, being acidic leads to many of these kinds of problems.

[D'vorah]

There are two methods which have been used to measure the balance of foods. The two methods are quite different, and thus, the different conclusions you find in books and web sites.

The older of the two is the ash test, where food is literally incinerated and then measured. The problem with this test is it measures the food and not the effect of the food on the body. Lemons are acidic, but have an alkalinizing effect on the body. Same with apple cider vinegar.

The other test is Potential Renal Acid Load (PRAL). This evaluates the effect of foods on the body at the level of renal function. Of the two, this is the only test I believe is reliable.

While I don't agree with all of the conclusions of the article I'm linking, it does include a PRAL chart that I believe can be trusted. Scroll down on the site listed below to find it.

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/bases.htm

Deborah

[RawPaw]

Thanks D'vorah. I'm intimidated by all those numbers! :o

[D'vorah]

Thanks D'vorah. I'm intimidated by all those numbers! :o

Positive numbers are acid, negative numbers are alkaline, zero is neutral. :)

The higher the positive number is, the more acidic it is.

I don't like numbers either. :D

Deborah

[RawPaw]

Dang, I can't just copy/paste those charts. Very cool info, though.

[DopeRawAbundance]

Numbers are tight mang. So are letters. How else would I type stuffs?

[RawPaw]

Numbers are tight mang. So are letters. How else would I type stuffs?

Don't get me started on letters! :mad:

[scyn]

There's quite a decent chart of acid-alkaline foods here:
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html

[Mnbordergirl]

Why don't you just buy some pH paper and touch it against the food you want to eat after freshly cutting or squeezing it?

I am sure Sigma-Aldrich sells pH paper.

According to the above chart, what would the pH of calcium phosphate be? <snicker>

[Krayton]

that corroborate the alkaline vs. acid theory, e.g. comparing health outcomes of acid vs. alkaline people and health outcomes? I'm going to do my own search. But I'm curious.

Paul

[Veganforlife]

that corroborate the alkaline vs. acid theory, e.g. comparing health outcomes of acid vs. alkaline people and health outcomes? I'm going to do my own search. But I'm curious.

Paul

Victoria Boutenko for one has done studies on this...may wanna check her out.
:) <----- lemon smiling

[Krayton]

Best to you!

Paul

[Veganforlife]

Best to you!

Paul

...and right back at 'cha!

:D <--------- lime smiling

[Veganforlife]

Here's some quick search stuff(s):

http://www.rawbc.org/articles/greensalkaline.html

http://www.rawfoodhowto.com/video-alkaline-acid-foods.cfm

http://blog.877myjuicer.com/disease-prevention/alkaline-vs-acidic-environment/

http://www.thebestofrawfood.com/alkaline-food-list.html

[RawTruth]

Why don't you just buy some pH paper and touch it against the food you want to eat after freshly cutting or squeezing it?
Don't think it works this way. Some foods which are acidic become alkaline in the body and vice versa. It's not a simple subject and deserves much study of well-established experts, IMO. There are lots of books devoted entirely to explaining this. I love Victoria, but I would look at others also.

One simple thing is eliminating animal products and cooked and processed foods -- those are acidic in the body. Eat lots of greens, veggies and a little fruit. After that, one can feel safe and can then have time to pursue a deeper understanding of alkalinity and how to refine it, if desired.

[VeGenesis]

Don't think it works this way. Some foods which are acidic become alkaline in the body and vice versa.

I agree, but MANY fruits are alkaline. Melons of all kinds are tops! So are Lemons (lemons test acid on pH paper). Likewise Raw ACV is mildly alkalizing in the body too.

The seed parts (nuts, seeds, grains, beans) usually swing to the acid side - as do virtually all oils in truth.

But Coconut water is good at alkalizing too... go figure!

On the veggie side try your squash!

One big thing people usually forget is the water. You can get low cost pH and kH test kits at tropical fish shops. Test your drinking water! In water kH is more important than pH and it should be about dKh 20-40 or 200-400 parts per million (on the American scale). A pH in water of about 7.5 really tastes great!

These kits are really simple to use. You fill the test tube to the line with water - at the drops from a bottle and watch the color of the water change. (either count the drops for kH or put 3 drops in and compare the color with a chart for pH) In the Philippines each kit cost about US$ 5 and will do about 180 tests!

We tested a dozen kinds of "healthy" bottled water and found pH ranged from 5.3 to 8.0 and kH ranged from 17.9 pph (very soft and unhealthy) to 580's (very hard and also unhealthy!).

kH above 500 ppm caused kidney stones and helps make gall stones. kH below 200 ppm contributes to heart attacks!

Cooking anything makes it more acid (the reason raw food and cooked food charts vary) - animal anything is likewise always acid.

Water kefir I am told is very weakly on the acid side. Likewise most fermented foods are acid. However, make the same kefir with coconut water and it is well on the alkalizing side.

Hope this helps!

[RawPaw]

I agree, but MANY fruits are alkaline. Melons of all kinds are tops! So are Lemons (lemons test acid on pH paper). Likewise Raw ACV is mildly alkalizing in the body too.

The seed parts (nuts, seeds, grains, beans) usually swing to the acid side - as do virtually all oils in truth.

But Coconut water is good at alkalizing too... go figure!

On the veggie side try your squash!

One big thing people usually forget is the water. You can get low cost pH and kH test kits at tropical fish shops. Test your drinking water! In water kH is more important than pH and it should be about dKh 20-40 or 200-400 parts per million (on the American scale). A pH in water of about 7.5 really tastes great!

These kits are really simple to use. You fill the test tube to the line with water - at the drops from a bottle and watch the color of the water change. (either count the drops for kH or put 3 drops in and compare the color with a chart for pH) In the Philippines each kit cost about US$ 5 and will do about 180 tests!

We tested a dozen kinds of "healthy" bottled water and found pH ranged from 5.3 to 8.0 and kH ranged from 17.9 pph (very soft and unhealthy) to 580's (very hard and also unhealthy!).

kH above 500 ppm caused kidney stones and helps make gall stones. kH below 200 ppm contributes to heart attacks!

Cooking anything makes it more acid (the reason raw food and cooked food charts vary) - animal anything is likewise always acid.

Water kefir I am told is very weakly on the acid side. Likewise most fermented foods are acid. However, make the same kefir with coconut water and it is well on the alkalizing side.

Hope this helps!

Wow! That's a bunch of great info. Thanks!

[Veganforlife]

Get some Ph testing strips.

[karmann]

I've found this link about acidic/alkaline foods. Any thoughts?



http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

[snoops]

Well my husband whose first degree was in biochemistry also poo poo's the theory. He would agree with the author of your link. That it doesn't matter what you eat, your body will maintain a very narrow range of pH.

However as he said in the link if you eat too much protein. your body draws calcium out of the bones to balance the acid from the protein. So yes perhaps our bodies are very tightly regulated and never stray far from the pH they are supposed to be but...

Do we want our bodies drawing calcium out of our bones to maintain this balance? And that is just one example. So if by eating properly we can help our bodies maintain the correct balance all the better.

[Tenuho]

With all due respect to the just eat live foods line of thought, that used to be me. Big time. For years. But, I found that it actually does matter in many cases.

I suggest you get it from a book or other printed source. They're always more reliable than the internet, anyway!
~

me 2......and the thing i noticed that did matter was exactly this issue........