To Much Oil? How much oil per day?

[VeGenesis]

Does anyone worry about too much oil in their food?

It was suggested to me to do the following but to replace the apple juice with a whole apple...

Is 3 tablespoons of oil a day a lot?

I only use one teaspoon of flax seed oil now, for omega 3's



Coconut Oil gradual Liver Cleanse Recipe

Ingredients:

* Warm 3 tablespoons of virgin coconut oil
* Quarter glass apple juice
* Half a lemon
* Clove of garlic
* Similar piece of fresh ginger

Zap all the ingredients in a blender, pour and drink. It is delicious!"

Drink every day one glass of this for several weeks, if you are suffering from: Gallbladder attacks, allergies, indigestion, abdominal pain, arm pain, back pain, constipation, bursitis, or any chronic health problem.

Avoid or replace ingredients you may be unable to tolerate, like garlic. Lemon can be replaced with orange, grapefruit or lime.

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/coconut_oli.asp

[Revvell]

Does anyone worry about too much oil in their food?


I'm sure someone does but, if it's a concern, probably best not to use so much instead of worrying about it, yes? ;)

[Aleesha Sattva]

You can mix a little avocado, 1 or 2 tbs of olive oil and water in the food processor to make up the amount of oil called for in a recipe. - (I know someone said this... as it's in one of my recipes... not sure who though... )

[cherry.chops]

if i use oil too much olive oil or flax seed oil with my salad it makes me feel yucky, so i just like to have plain salads and then occasionally oil when i need to spice things up a bit.

I will occasionally have coconut oil in a pudding for a treat, and once or twice a week i will have avocado.
I feel that having less fat in my diet makes me feel a little better.

But to go back to your question, personally i dont think 3 spoons of oil is alot. I couldnt have that much myself, so i just suppose its whatever works for you. try it and see?

the liver cleanse sounds lovely...just without that much garlic, and i couldnt have oil every day :)

[VeGenesis]

You can mix a little avocado, 1 or 2 tbs of olive oil

:) Big smile Aleesha... Maybe my REAL question should have been about to little oil! Until you ask you don't learn these things...

Except for 5 ml (one teaspoon) of flax oil and whatever I get in a young coconut or coconut milk, I do not get much (or any) other oil.

My friend tells me he consumes 3 tablespoons (45ml) coconut oil daily. (For typing sake all oils are cold pressed, organic, low temp oils). He also eats food with oil in it like roasted nuts and some fish sometimes. He is not 100% raw! That is a lot more oil than I consume.

Avocados are a seasonal fruit here. When we have them I eat one and take 1 (5ml) teaspoon of flax oil a day! That is my total intake of oil when they are in season.

When Avocados are not in season, and because raw nuts are near impossible to buy here, and because I like a creamy dressing on my salad, we are experimenting with making some buko mayo out of young coconuts. Yesterday, before I posted that, we had our best batch yet. It was thick and creamy and tasted wonderful! I pretty much ate the whole thing with plenty of veggies! (Wow!) It has three tablespoons (45ml) of coconut oil and a young coconut as part of the mix.

Those three tablespoons of coconut oil (45ml) and my one teaspoon of flax oil (5ml) was all the oil I had yesterday. No nuts or avocados or anything else oily like that. Is 50ml too much oil for a 200-300 pound, not too active, man?

Perhaps I should have asked how much oil do people here use? People who are regular 100% raw, healthy and happy with their diet. Does size matter? My goal weight is 220 lbs and I'm about 6'4" and a big frame! (Doctors who have seen x-rays of my legs have asked questions about why the hospital is x-raying cow legs! Really!)

This morning my body seems to like what I ate yesterday! (Less pain, more energy!)

[VeGenesis]

if i use oil too much olive oil or flax seed oil with my salad it makes me feel yucky

and i couldnt have oil every day :)

Thanks Cherry! Other people are telling me a coconut and 50ml (10 teaspoons) are not a lot of oil per day for someone not eating avocados or nuts.

How much oil do you think is "too much" for your salad? In my SAD days I would make V&O Dressing with a half to 2/3 cups oil, to dip my daily two family size extra meat & cheese pizzas in! ( :D Free Tips on how to grow pass 500 pounds! :D )

220 lbs lighter... I get a little paranoid at even the mention of oil. However, lately it seems more and more people are telling me that maybe I should be adding some oil to my menu.

If you don't mind, how much oil would you estimate you do use on days you have no avocados? And how big are you. (see above for the reason...)

[Rick2009]

If you don't mind, how much oil would you estimate you do use on days you have no avocados? And how big are you. (see above for the reason...)

I trust the thinking Of Dr Dean Ornish, a cardiologist who has written about reversing heart disease and diet. I weigh almost 200 pounds and I think I get enough oil from hemp seeds. If you google his name you will get a site where he answers questions. I think its Web MD. The #1 killer in North America is heart disease and apparently % of fat in diet is hugely important. Even if you are 100% raw and healthy, you cannot indiscriminately down loads of olive oil and avocados. There must be balance.

Ornish's book on reversing heart disease gives you the numbers that are safe as well as those required to reverse heart disease if you are already affected. My arteries were in bad shape, and as of the latest tests, they are clean. I love avocados but I only eat a bite every 2 or 3 months. For someone like myself whose arteries were damaged by plaque, avocados are not allowed. Oh well. I do totally enjoy what foods I am allowed. And besides, I do what I need to do to be present for my loved ones.

Hope this helps,

[Aleesha Sattva]

You can mix a little avocado, 1 or 2 tbs of olive oil and water in the food processor to make up the amount of oil called for in a recipe. - (I know someone said this... as it's in one of my recipes... not sure who though... )

I should have added:

If a recipe calls for 1/4 - 1/2 a cup of oil... you can mix a little avocado and 1 or 2 tbs and water to make up for the oil in a recipe.

[katchmoleen]

I do think different people are different on this. My body seems to like fat and not fruit. I don't have a candida problem. When I first went raw, I did eat TONS of fat. I poured olive oil on everything and ate lots of nuts. As time went on I ate less. Some people would probably call my diet high fat, I think of it as moderate fat. I probably average about 1/2 avocado a day (when not doing green smoothies), 1/2 cup nuts a day, and when I have a prepared dish, there is usually a tablespoon or so of olive oil in there, or on my salad. To me that is not a lot, but to someone else, maybe it is. It doesn't seem to hurt my weight loss, and indeed when I started ADDING 1-2T of coconut oil a day, it accelerated my weight loss (need to start that again.) So I say if your body liked what you ate yesterday, it may be that you need to start adding MORE fat. There is a book called Eat Fat to Lose Fat, and it is about coconut oil. Not a raw book but not a SAD book either.

[DopeRawAbundance]

It seems your body'll tell ya when to stop... I've had 3 avocados today, cut up and drizzled with a healthy helping of olive oil, a handful of almonds and a handful of squash/watermelon seeds, and finally my fat tooth is satiated. I'm 'bout 145lbs and 6 feet tall, almost 20 years old if that's a factor at all. I am quite the fan of fatty foods, I love dippin into the coconut oil, eatin' it straight... whenever I use coconut oil in a recipe I can't resist but to sample some straight out da jar. Actually I could use some of that right now my fat tooth lives.

[VeGenesis]

Rick - Ornish's recommendation of less than 10% of your calories from fat. I'd need to reduce this by one table spoon. However, he includes a lot of cooked fats and animal fats. This may be working for you but cooked vegetarian did not work for me at all. The concept seems tainted.

Aleesha - Thanks for making that clear. Since I do not have any recipes... hehe at least I am not following any... It is good to have this for the banana eaters! (Search) Right now I am still pretty simply what I can make with a knife and a blender. But I did file this in my tip area! Thanks!

katch - You are correct - no two humans are the same - not even clones! :D I checked the Eat Fat to Lose Fat website and found someone losing weight who wrote... "Included in the calorie count is 4 1/2 tablespoons coconut oil, 1 teaspoon cod liver oil, 1/2 teaspoon butter oil" Wow! Of course I do not like the animal products but that is still 75 ml of oil! And this lady was losing weight. I thought my 50 ml was a lot! However, likewise I think the rules change a lot when you are considering cooked dead food.

I do feel there is a real difference between the coconut and olive oils. Olive oil makes me gag if I get too much. In fact, If I have coconut, I won't even use the olive oil.

Since I started using coconut oil about a year ago, 2T a day regularly will really prevent candida in my gut. It also seems to calm things too... Olive doesn't do that. I wonder of your higher oil intake prevented you from getting candida?

RawAbundance - Yes, age/activity does matter. However, I also think heat and source matter also. Oil in an avocado never bothered me. Likewise coconut oil (but I never tried it straight from he bottle!) Your post did help give me some prospective and it is helpful to remind me that I need to find what is right for me! Good post!

[Rick2009]

Rick - Ornish's recommendation of less than 10% of your calories from fat. I'd need to reduce this by one table spoon. However, he includes a lot of cooked fats and animal fats. This may be working for you but cooked vegetarian did not work for me at all. The concept seems tainted.



Ornish bases his recommendations on studies that include over 10,000 people. He recommends 20% of calories from fat for those who have no cardiac issues like plaque or clogging of the arteries. And 10% for those who have cardiac issues. I don't remember him recommending lots of animal fat. I have chosen to not consume cooked or animal fats. His percentage of calories from fats recommendations have worked for me. I had to be taken to the Institute of Cardiology to have an artery unblocked, my arteries were a mess. Today, having followed his recommendation of 10% fats from calories, my arteries are clean.

I told the nutritionist at the hospitol that I liked raw foods and wanted to eventually eat 100% raw. She told me that was fine but she wanted to profile my fat consumption as well as calcium and other nutrients. It turns out that some raw meals I was eating were like about 50% fats.
If I had a choice I'd eat a couple of avocados a day with lemon, olive oil and some cayenne. I cannot eat like that. It's my reality. Its not everyone's. The good news is that I am in shape and enjoy going to the gym. My raw diet is a total feast ! A blast ! Even with less that 10% calories from fats.

Enjoy,

[Rick2009]

PS: Since its becoming accepted that % of calories from fats should be considered by those of us with cardiac issues or concerns, perhaps a low fat raw diet and lifestyle book could be written. Just an idea.

All good,

[Revvell]

PS: Since its becoming accepted that % of calories from fats should be considered by those of us with cardiac issues or concerns, perhaps a low fat raw diet and lifestyle book could be written. Just an idea.

All good,

There already is one. You might wish to go to Doug Graham's site as this one is based on Alissa's book, understanding and experiences with the living food lifestyle.

[Rick2009]

There already is one. You might wish to go to Doug Graham's site as this one is based on Alissa's book, understanding and experiences with the living food lifestyle.

I am familiar with Dr Graham's web site, thank you. It is one of the many sites I visit in order to learn more about the raw food lifestyle. I appreciate the diversity of opinions and experiences that are available in various forums.

Best,

[VeGenesis]

I am familiar with Dr Graham's web site, thank you. It is one of the many sites I visit in order to learn more about the raw food lifestyle. I appreciate the diversity of opinions and experiences that are available in various forums.


Revvell - Thanks for the note about Dr Doug - A couple websites I have seen that he is on are helpful in this area for me. I think I can meet the 80-10-10 with a simple change in my diet and it may have an effect that Rick is talking about that I did not realize till I started reading more in this area.

Rick - I think I was just so close already that I didn't quite understand what you meant at first. Dr. Graham's sites explained it in a way I could grasp better. I eat almost no nuts or seeds (too expensive here), nor none of the oily foods except avocados and the coconut oil - and never on the same day. Using better info I realized on any day I was only at 12-14% total calories from fat. However, looking at an average week, my fat is just about 10.5 - 11%

An average week before I added the coconut oil was only about 2-4% and I think that was too low for me. It is amazing what I have learned since I started. Stuff like salt! I was always taught salt was "bad" (on eating SAD) - but reached a point of avoiding "bad salt" so effectively that my doctor insisted I eat a little salt daily! He is 85% raw and not a fan of salt, but with my imbalanced eating - I was not getting enough sodium! Balance is key!

I am starting to feel the same about "super-foods" - there are none! Balance and eating a lot of different food is what I think the real super food is!

Thanks everyone for all the tips!

[Rick2009]

Revvell - Thanks for the note about Dr Doug - A couple websites I have seen that he is on are helpful in this area for me. I think I can meet the 80-10-10 with a simple change in my diet and it may have an effect that Rick is talking about that I did not realize till I started reading more in this area.

Rick - I think I was just so close already that I didn't quite understand what you meant at first. Dr. Graham's sites explained it in a way I could grasp better. I eat almost no nuts or seeds (too expensive here), nor none of the oily foods except avocados and the coconut oil - and never on the same day. Using better info I realized on any day I was only at 12-14% total calories from fat. However, looking at an average week, my fat is just about 10.5 - 11%

An average week before I added the coconut oil was only about 2-4% and I think that was too low for me. It is amazing what I have learned since I started. Stuff like salt! I was always taught salt was "bad" (on eating SAD) - but reached a point of avoiding "bad salt" so effectively that my doctor insisted I eat a little salt daily! He is 85% raw and not a fan of salt, but with my imbalanced eating - I was not getting enough sodium! Balance is key!

I am starting to feel the same about "super-foods" - there are none! Balance and eating a lot of different food is what I think the real super food is!

Thanks everyone for all the tips!

VaGenesis,
Your diet is sounding good. You have come a long way and that is proof that your diet is working well for you.
I watch a 1 hour daily tv show here, the host is a cardiac surgeon by the name of Dr Oz. Its a popular show because it helps many people to regain their health. Fats are often discussed and Ornish was on the show about a month ago.
I think one has to keep in mind that these guys or others have certain views that may be conflicting. I think you want to retain the good and overlook what is not suitable for you. % of calories from fats has been studied on a massive scale and so what Ornish is saying is based on studies of thousands of people. I think its great that your fats intake is at a level that is scientifically proven to be effective.
As for salt, I don't know what to tell you. I still don't understand what to do about salt. So many conflicting views. Go for balance.
Your conclusion about superfoods is very interesting. It makes sense when you think about it. Simple whole foods are what nature intended. I do believe the way you make them interesting is an art and some of the recipes here are from heaven.

Enjoy your journey,

[marc]

like i said in my other tread..i got 2 stents put in last week and 2 put in last sept 2008..

and still have a 60% block and other plaque in my arterys.

so right now i am kind off scary i should say.

the 2 last ones went frome 0 to 90% in the last 6 month even scrayer...that it block so fast.:(.

so last week i went and baught a few books.

1..dr dean ornish.program for reversing heart disease.
2...dr caldwell b esselelstyn...prevent and reverse diesease......that one i love..realy good.

3...reverse heart disease now...stephen sinatra..

4 dr neal barnard...reversing diabetes..whitch isvery good.

and the best........THE CHINA STUDY...

those books are great.

and they say..........NO OIL in most off them.

no nuts

BUT this is for patent that do have heart prob and block artery.

if you want to stop it or reverse it...........NO OIL is alowed.in the diet.

a guy like me at 39.y.o..that would like to see a few more years...better listen and do this.


so no meat ..like they say..nothing that as a mom or a face..hahaha

an no oil.


marc