Dr. David Klein's book and proper food combining

[Sparklie]

I am trying to start this way of eating again. I tried to do this about one year ago and got really sick. The worst heartburn of my life, terrible stomach gas, pain and bloating. I could not understand what I was doing wrong.

I think that I did a number of things wrong. I tried to switch too fast and was detoxing. I was not combining my food properly. I also didn't know I had colitis and all the sensitivities that go along with that. I thought I only had candida.

So, from what I understand with Dr. Klein, if I eat things that would typically increase candida, it won't on a low-fat food plan.

I've also read that juicing sweet fruits, like bananas, will increase candida. Does anyone know? Dr. Klein, highly suggests bananas.

I have seen my integrative Dr. I have not been able to eat anything raw, so far. It is too much fiber for my body. So, for now I've cooked fruit or steamed veggies. I want to gradually try some raw fruit and see what happens. My last try almost killed me, my body went into such distress.

I can't do nuts, at all, right now. No almond milks, etc. I'm doing mono meals. Yesterday, I made the mistake of having gluten-free steel cut oats and almond milk. Bad combo. Stomach upset all day.

I'ld appreciate hearing from people who have had trouble going raw and successfully healed.

[Veganforlife]

Do you have Alissa's book and DVDs? She had candida and healed it by going 100% Raw...MANY here have had horrid ill-nesses and dis-eases and healed by going 100% Raw...last time, how long did you give it a chance? Maybe your body has to get worse before it gets better...?

You can't juice bananas by the way...

[katchmoleen]

I'm not a moderator, but I can tell you that Dr. Klein is a Natural Hygienist and as such as a much different, stricter outlook on raw than does Alissa Cohen, the owner of this site. Her philosphy of raw is what is promoted here. My suggestion would be to start out with the less strict program like Alissa's (do you have her book?). I have celiac/colitis and have seen improvements with a non-rigid all raw program. As time goes on, I may get more strict, but right now I am enjoying eating what I want, when I want, as long as it is raw.

I do avoid all grains as I know they are irritating to my gut and are not good for colitis. I don't avoid nuts, fortunately have no problem with them. I do keep the fruits low but that is my preference, not a chore.

I do find smoothies and fasting have helped my gut a lot. I am on a smoothie fast right now.

I'm sorry you had such a rough time last time! Detox is rough, no way around it, but you have to go through it. All that gunk is what is making you sick, and you have to get rid of it. You may find colonics helpful. I don't know how long you stuck it out last time. My first week was horrid and the second week was bad and the third week was meh, but I turned a corner after three weeks and finally started feeling....um......NOT WORSE than before going raw. I didn't feel BETTER than preraw till about 2 months or so, except for certain symptoms like headaches and heartbrun. But that is all detox. If you have colitis, you have a lot to detox.

OK I am rambling now but hopefully some of that made sense.

[Revvell]

What KatchMoleen and VeganForLife said.

If your thread disappears, it's because this IS Alissa's site.

[Sparklie]

I do have Alissa's book and dvd. I did a ton of recipes and bought a lot of the things that I think I will use in the future. I did Alissa's recipes for I know 3 to 6 months. That is why I'm asking for help.

Did anyone else have trouble transitioning for this long? :)

[katchmoleen]

So you were 100% raw for 3 or 6 months? And still found no improvement in your colitis? Just trying to clarify. Please be more specific and what percent raw you ate and for how long.

[Veganforlife]

3-6 months is not that long in the scheme of how long you may have been eating SAD/CRAP. Really. There is a reason why you didn't find eating Alissa's plan (philosophy) was successful for you. Were you 100% Raw? Were you taking any medications? Were you drinking water? Were you working out?
Just batantly saying I tried it and it didn't work, well, obviously SOMETHING was not being followed. Alissa says so herself. Give it time. That's my best bit of advice. Trying yet ANOTHER person's recommendations is not gonna be the magic cure.
Time is. Dedication is. Doing it right is.
It may take you a year or longer, but each day is a positive, heading in the right direction way.
You are not gonna find much support here of someone else's belief...

[Sparklie]

Katchmoleen - I was still transitioning, probably 80% raw and colitis was worse.

Veganforlife - I'm not looking for support with someone else's beliefs, just support in general.

[Veganforlife]

Katchmoleen - I was still transitioning, probably 80% raw and colitis was worse.

Veganforlife - I'm not looking for support with someone else's beliefs, just support in general.

Have you tried 100% Raw?

[katchmoleen]

Hi, Sparklie, so you have never been 100% raw? I would do that and also the suggestion I gave you in a private message. You will heal much faster 100%, even if you have to push through really tough detox.

Colitis is tough, and I personally do not see anything wrong with following the advice of someone who has overcome it with a specific raw food program. Do what works for you. I bet there are boards for his program and you might be able to get more help there from people who have btdt. I am not kicking you off the boards, lol (don't have that power anyway) but since this is Alissa's board, you won't get any advice about Dr. Klein's program.

I do think there are other people on this board who have overcome colitis with raw, but I don't know if they modified Alissa's program in any way. My colitis was not too bad when I started all raw, and actually the diarrhea got initially worse, but it has settled down now at almost 5 months and everything else is so much better.

Go 100% raw. Do a lot of juicing. Be prepared to push through a rough detox. I bet you will be glad you did.

[Veganforlife]

Yes. We are not saying go away, but just trying to offer suggestions and help. DO 30-days 100% Raw. It DOES work...

[Sparklie]

Thank you, for all your support. I'm going to try it. All juice. I'm actually getting excited about this. I've been so afraid to have just about anything, because everything has caused me pain.

I've been drinking more water lately and have seen improvement. I was also drinking it too soon after eating and now see I needed to let my own digestive enzymes work first. I'm waiting 1/2 to 1 hour after eating to drink. I also used to sip my water. Now I'm taking big drinks.

Hallalooya! Can't wait to work up to the yummy sweet recipes.

[D'vorah]

My understanding of candida, from Dr. Rick Dina, is that there's a mechanism that takes place at a cellular level between fats and sugars that cause the spikes that feed candida and that in a Standard American Diet, result in diabetes. He teaches that whole food fruit sugars aren't the problem, sugars in the presence of fats are the problem.

Because you have the gut problems you do, you might want to consider trying to get a consultation with Dr. Klein or Dr. Graham. Their approaches aren't to be discussed in this forum as they are a different approach from Alissa's.

And as many here have testified to, Green Smoothies!! :-)

Hope you find relief and success.

Deborah