I've just been diagnosed with cancer... and I'm grateful for it. Here's why...

[MrsJohnnyG]

Hi, everyone. I was an avid high raw eater for about a year, until last August (2008)... when my world crashed around me.

My husband and I had been trying to have a baby for several years, and we had conceived three times... but lost the baby at the end of the first trimester, each time.

Somehow, I managed to heal emotionally from these, and in the spring and summer of 2008, I devoted myself to eating raw, exercising, and generally caring for my health. I was elated to find out that summer that we were expecting again, for the fourth time.

Everything in me was 100% sure this would finally be our take-home baby. My early bloodwork was off-the-charts perfect. (In fact my doctor "warned" me we might be bringing home twins or triplets!)

Because of all the heartbreak we had already been through, I agreed to a 7-week ultrasound, where we saw a perfect little heartbeat, and our sweet baby was measuring exactly where it should be for 7 weeks.

Two weeks later, on August 1, my husband and I excitedly went to the OB/GYN again for a 9-week ultrasound. Everything had gone so well, I was as close to 100% raw as I'd ever been and was feeling fantastic. My doctor oozed positivity and told me she was older than me when she had her first baby the year before and set my mind at ease about a lot of things.

Then, the ultrasound... I was excited when I saw a perfect little bean with a distinct head, body, and little arm and leg nubs. "Is that my baby??" I asked excitedly.

"Yes, but I'm not seeing a heartbeat...."

They were words I had heard three times before, but this time, I felt as though I had been crushed to death under a 10-ton weight. Normally when I heard those words in the ultrasound room, shock would set in and tears would come later.

This time, I began convulsing into sobs immediately. My husband gripped my hand so hard it turned white, but all I could think about was my baby... I already loved this baby... how had this happened AGAIN.

(The tech said my baby was measuring 9 weeks, exactly the right size, so my baby must have just passed away in the last day or so. I later found out through genetic testing that my baby was a girl who had Turner syndrome, a genetic problem that kills the baby before they're even born, in most cases.)

Words can't describe how devastated I was. This time, I didn't grieve for 2-3 weeks then start feeling a bit of hope again... this time, there was nothing but 100% certainty that I would never be happy again, that I would never have a baby, that I would never even want to be alive again. In fact, I prayed every day that I could die.

I didn't come back to RFT or any other forums after that (other than to quietly log in and remove the cheery pregnancy news in my signature).

Since I had lost all hope in life, I really gave up on everything. I shut out friends. I plunged into SAD eating as I had never done in my life (I had always been a fairly healthy eater, even pre-raw).

I began drinking (sometimes a whole bottle of wine at night just so I wouldn't lie awake crying about my baby), I started eating disgusting fast food, I took up soft drinks (YUCK -- just more of my self-destructive behavior), I ate disgusting, processed foods that I didn't even LIKE... just as an act of slow suicide.

This May, I finally came back here after finding a mass in my right breast. Honestly, I didn't care whether it was cancer or not... I thought maybe it was an answer to prayer, the death I had wanted without having to break my family's heart with suicide.

After receiving great advice from many of you here, I found a local thermography clinic and had thermography done. The results, I was told, said I was very inflamed throughout my chest, but that there wasn't a distinct area that was obviously cancer.

I took that as a good sign and went on my merry way.

The mass didn't go away, though... I think it got larger... plus I had a new really gross symptom that I won't gross you out with!

At my husband's and parents' urging, I finally went to a traditional doctor who did an ultrasound and told me, quite urgently, that he believed I had cancer. He strong-armed me into scheduling a biopsy for two days later.

After I went home, I called and canceled the biopsy. The last thing I want is, if it's an encapsulated cancerous tumor, for holes to be poked all in it so that it can spread.

The nurse yelled at me that I could die if I didn't go forward with the biopsy... I calmly listened but still refused.

A few minutes later, the doctor himself called me. He spent 20 minutes on the phone explaining why I really needed to have this done, because in all his years of experience, he has a good sense of when someone has cancer. I kept asking him why he couldn't remove the whole thing, not poke holes in it first, but he kept giving me insane "mindless Western medicine" reasons for not doing it.

I still refused to get a biopsy, but decided to get a second opinion.

I had an appointment with a new cancer specialist last week. This doctor, a woman, gave me a MUCH more thorough ultrasound (as opposed to a quickie 30-second job that the first doctor did).

She was talking somberly with me about what I need to do next, what will happen if it's cancer ("we may do some chemo first, then surgery, then radiation" :eek:).

I finally asked her point-blank, "Do you think it's cancer?"

Without hemming and hawing, she looked at me and said, "Yes, I do."

My heart sank... although I was glad to have a straight answer this time (the first doctor wouldn't say yes or no, he just kept saying "It looks very suspicious" -- what the bleep does that REALLY mean??").

I did let myself be bullied into getting my first-ever mammogram to see whether it's spread to the lymph nodes (it doesn't seem to have).

So, on Wednesday, this doctor is going to strong-arm me into agreeing to chemo and radiation, along with surgery. (I know this because my friend who's my age was treated for breast cancer two years ago by the same doctor.)

Well, this past weekend, after doing a LOT of reading about natural treatment of cancer, something has snapped in me:

1. I want to live, after all.

2. I want to fight this cancer aggressively... with NATURAL methods. Not burning and poisoning (radiation and chemo).

3. I suddenly realized... I want to try again to have a baby... and weirdly, I have hope again (for the first time since the last miscarriage) that I can!!

Several days ago, I went through my kitchen and dumped everything that was SAD.

I went to a local organic farm and came home with armloads of fresh organic vegetables.

I've been drinking green juices and eating fresh greens and other produce.

I've been mapping out a game plan of specific foods, natural supplements, and lifestyle changes that have been proven to shrink, stop, or eliminate cancer. (I can share this if anyone is interested.)

It occurred to me about an hour ago: What would I be doing right now if I hadn't been diagnosed with cancer?

I'd be sitting around drinking glass after glass of wine, after eating a horrible, preservative-filled, animal-heavy, cooked diet of nastiness all day. I'd be sitting around feeling sorry for myself and wanting to die. And for all I know, I'd keep doing that for years.

This cancer diagnosis has waken me up!! It's brought me back to the beautiful gift of raw. It's gotten me EXCITED about good health again!! It's even given me hope of someday having a take-home baby (yes, I know my chances are much diminished now, but hey, both my grandmothers gave birth to healthy babies at age 40, so I'm not counting myself out until then!).

Anyway, sorry for the epic novel here, but a huge light bulb has gone off in my head and I had to share a very weird but positive perspective on cancer. I am so grateful for this massive wake-up call! I'm so grateful for the swift kick back to the raw food way of life! Bless you if you read this far... thanks for "listening"!! :D

[MrsJohnnyG]

Just a quick note about chemo... one of my dear friends told me a couple of months ago that her mother had been diagnosed with lung cancer, probably terminal, and that it was so advanced that if she didn't do aggressive chemo starting immediately, she only had a few weeks to live.

At the time, I was still in my own toxic lifestyle and hadn't looked into the dangers of chemo, and simply told my friend I hoped it went well.

Yesterday, I received this in an email from my friend:

Unfortunately, my mom has been terribly sick from chemo. She had to go to the hospital today to get IV fluids. All of her levels are very low including blood and potassium. Monday morning they are giving her a blood transfusion. She told me she did not want to have any more chemo treatments. She said it is worse than death. She is so weak that she can't hold her head up and will need a wheel chair.
This makes me so sad. :( I started looking into chemo and am appalled at how it's acknowledged even by the medical industry that chemotherapy is EXTREMELY TOXIC POISON. It completely wrecks the immune system and damages the liver and other vital organs.

I had originally thought that maybe I would do chemo, then do raw detox to recover from the chemo.

But sheesh, now that I know there are specific foods that destroy cancer, why wouldn't I just do the raw detox (heavy on the cancer-destroying foods) and skip the "being poisoned" part altogether?!

I called my friend who had gone through traditional breast cancer treatment and asked her all about chemo and radiation. She described how they put a port in where the poison was injected into her every day of cancer "treatment." I asked her why the doctors thought she needed it and she explained that her doctor thought it would shrink the tumor so that the surgery would be less invasive. It convinced me that there is NO WAY I will agree to chemo. Maybe if I had advanced cancer all throughout my body, sure, maybe it would make sense then. But for ONE confined tumor??

Oh, and my friend, who is 38 now, has no children. She and her husband wanted at least two children. Well, now she is permanently infertile because of the chemo and radiation. Even if it didn't make her infertile, her doctor told her she had to wait until at least 5 years of being cancer-free and that she strongly advised her NEVER to try to get pregnant, but rather to stay in chemically-induced menopause. :confused: For various reasons, they are not able to adopt now either, so this sweet girl has had her chances of ever being a mother ripped from her because of traditional cancer treatment.

I'd rather have a mastectomy than have my immune system, liver, pancreas, and REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM completely destroyed. Am I crazy for thinking that? If anyone here firmly believes in chemo, please let me know; I really do want to hear both sides!

(I need to stop blathering now -- sorry! :D)

[michigan roman]

in case youve never seen this below thread it has many great links and lots of information

good luck with your healing work that lies ahead :)
like you say youll be better off long term this has happened

link =

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=10632&highlight=cancer+calling+angels

[michigan roman]

the biggy treatment ive seen most rawfoodies agree on is dark green juices to alkalize the blood , like ann wigmore and her wheat grass therapy .
many raw foodist agree a dark green juice fast is called for . ever see the site www.juicefeasting.com


also you ever read about raw red beet juice therapy for this ailment ,
ive not seen it alot beyond several sources from europe saying its big there

many believe in heavy amounts of vitamin c

[katchmoleen]

God bless you Johnnie, you have been through so much. I have no advice for you except I have read some books by a lady named Eydie Mae, who defeated breast cancer with nutrition. Also A Cancer Battle Plan by Anne Frahm.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you!! I had just found another thread here where you linked that thread... I'm off to read that now! Interesting about the raw beet juice... I have been craving raw beet juice today, believe it or not (had to settle for sliced beets at a salad bar). Will read up on that, too.

So far, here are the components of my game plan:

1. Green juice fast for a week; then, organic vegetables, juiced and raw, especially alkalyzing foods... NO sugar (except in a few cancer-fighting fruits)

2. CoQ10: 400 mg daily (that amount has shrunk/eliminated breast cancer tumors -- even the cancer industry acknowledges this!)

3. Vitamin D: 1000 mg daily and/or 20+ minutes sunshine daily

4. 1/4 cup organic cottage cheese (**need to find raw vegan alternative) + 2 T. cold-pressed flax seed oil, blended very well and eaten several times daily

5. B17 (Laetrile): eat 10-20 raw apricot seeds daily and foods rich in B17 (apple seeds, sprouted millet, sprouted chick peas, macadamia nuts, etc.)

6. Exercise: 30 minutes, 5-6 days per week

Essaic tea each day

[snoops]

You sound like you have a great plan and I know you will beat this. I know you will have everyone here sending you healing thoughts, prayers, energy. Be strong. You can do it.

(((((((((hugs)))))))))))

PS I would up the vitamin D. I have been supplementing with 2000 IU for a year and my Vitamin D is in the normal range but not the optimal range yet. I am going up to 3000 for the winter as its too cold here to keep skin uncovered even if the sun is shining. Don't worry about toxicity - they supplement MS patients with up to 17,000 IU with no toxic side effects.

[Aleesha Sattva]

Julia,

My heart is soooooooo breaking for you. I just had a miscarriage myself and I feel your pain. I really really do. (((hugs)))

Please read this (http://www.timelessspirit.com/MAR08/interview.shtml) and email me with any questions you have.

love,
Aleesha

[Aleesha Sattva]

Oh and write yourself some positive healing affirmations and post them around your house... read them out loud to yourself whenever you see them!!!

[DebB]

I am wishing you ALL the very best Julia! What a positive attitude you have. You can do this! *Ü*

[margoss]

Bless your heart & I applaude you for writing this. I can imagine how it was to type it. Probably, maybe even a relief to get it out.

Ann Wigmore is in Fl so it's not far from you. THe man who has taken over the guidance of this facility live in Georgia!!
Everyone has to make their own decisions so if you decide against chemo, let others know you expect support, not telling you how wrong you are. This happened to my H. Only myself & 2 others vs 40 told him not to do chemo. He became confused & afraid...did it,then regretted it. When it didn't work, they had nothing to say & were confused. EVeryone has to make their own decisions & others should help & support it.

I'm going to contact you privately.

[freelive]

It is funny, that disease can help us become healthier than otherwise. I just had a small stroke a month ago, and it made me to eat better efortlessly.
The thing with baby, that you have to somehow let go. Once you let go, then it can happen. You can be happy with baby or without, and when you learn to be happy without, then your baby can come.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Here comes the other side... How 'bout a compromise?? Why not have the lump removed, lumpectomy or mastectomy, (trust the doctor on this) and then continue with your strong, healthy lifestyle? Time is of the essence, believe me. Cancer is an aggressive, vicious disease, take it from a former chemo nurse AND cancer survivor... Please at least do yourself a favor and go for a surgical cure.

[rawrawks]

THANK YOU for sharing your story, your challenge and new struggles. This will help many I am sure.

Good for you for being proactive for your own health and being a stand for your own care in this.

Bless you and be well.

[Revvell]

Congratulations on your awakening and awarenesses!

I often tell clients and students that sometimes you have to reach bottom before you can make significant changes. Sounds as though you have. I'm glad you've chosen to stay.

These vids may be of some interest to you. One is entitled "Healing Cancer from Inside Out (http://bit.ly/1qupor)". The producer's dad died of cancer and he realized there had to be a different way. Do you know that many oncologists will NOT do chemo or recommend it to family members?

Best to you.

Revvell

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Here is my post from back in June when you first found the lump. Not sure if you ever saw this. And yeah, Revell is right with what she says. Dunno what I would do if faced with cancer now, but I would have it removed in the first place if any way possible...


"MrsJohnnyG, At least see a Doctor. Tell him your concerns about Mammo. Ultrasound is probably an option. Don't wait around thinking about this. I want to see you live a long and happy life!! I know you don't like western medicine, but sometimes you need a little help from the other side. I was an Oncology Certified Nurse, and I have to agree, chemo and radiation are the pits!! BUT... one of the more survivable cancers this day and age is breast cancer. See an MD, and then you'll have all your options out on the table. And I agree with Gerson Clinic. Not sure what I'd do if faced with cancer today.
I actually am a cancer survivor! Melanoma, diagnosed back in the day, when I was 40. I was so scared!! As a nurse, melanoma was the cancer I had always feared, since it was so aggresive. And then I was diagnosed with it!! Long story short, I had a surgical wide excision, and thank God it didn't spread!! So 12 years later, I'm still here to tell the story!
...And by the way, I am 100% for a surgical cure!! If that's an option. I'm not telling you what to do, but cancer is nothing to mess around with! Good luck to you!!"
__________________
Cindy

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you all SO much for your encouragement, resources, and good thoughts!! I so appreciate it!!!!

Oh Aleesha, my heart is breaking to read that... I am going to PM you when I get back (I'm running out the door right now)... big hugs, sweetie.

Here comes the other side... How 'bout a compromise?? Why not have the lump removed, lumpectomy or mastectomy, (trust the doctor on this) and then continue with your strong, healthy lifestyle? Time is of the essence, believe me. Cancer is an aggressive, vicious disease, take it from a former chemo nurse AND cancer survivor... Please at least do yourself a favor and go for a surgical cure.
That is actually the reason I'm going forward with my dr's appointment on Wednesday... to ask her to surgically remove it without making me also go through chemo/radiation. In the meantime, I'm taking therapeutic quantities of B17 and CoQ10 (both of which have been shown in independent studies to shrink the size and ultimately eliminate cancerous tumors in many cases).


It is funny, that disease can help us become healthier than otherwise. I just had a small stroke a month ago, and it made me to eat better effortlessly.
Isn't it weird how that happens?? I started trying to get back on the healthy eating wagon months ago... I would buy organic greens and fresh produce... then a week later I'd have to toss it because it had gone slimy.

I'd tell myself, "I have GOT to start exercising again this week," and I would never do it.

Yet now, with the "c word" diagnosis, I don't HAVE to have will power... all I WANT to eat are raw greens and other nutritious stuff... all the nasty stuff I'd been living on has absolutely ZERO appeal to me now... all because of, literally, one WORD!! It's crazy.

More later... got to run but had to thank you all!!!!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

So glad to hear that!!! :)

[lavendarJ]

Your willingness to share your journey has been inspirational in more ways than you know..praying and rooting for you!

Be blessed!

[Shine]

First - I am sending many (((((HUGS)))) and you can take them whenever you need them.

I too have had four miscarriages and I know for me they are the most devestating things ever. My heart goes out to you and your husband. I, too, tried drowing my sorrows in wine and now I am here, hoping for the best.

Also, I had adeno carcinoma when I was 24. A glandular cancer in my cervical canal (grandfather had the same in his lungs and great anut in her breast). I didn't want the chemo nor the radical hysterectomy so I opted for removal of know cancerous tissue and whole foods and Tai Chi. I wish then I had known about raw.

I wish you the very best, feel free to pm me at any time.

Blessings

[Moretta]

Sending you healing and healthy vibes all around. {{{HUGS}}}

[Eva]

Julia! I have wondered where you were, what was happening! I wanted so much to know!

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR THE BEST. But you know that.

I am rooting for you, have been for a long time. I know you are going to get through this. You *will* get some miracles. You deserve the lot of 'em.

I have one request... Don't go it alone. I guess you have people outside of here to support you too... but please don't disappear. We want to see your struggles to root you on and hear your victories, to root you on then too. Well, I do anyways. But I think there are a lot of us on here that want to be there for you.

*Big hugs!*
Eva

[cara4art]

Eva couldn't have said it better! You need some GREAT support for what you're going through, and not the all happy-face "positive thinking" type of stuff either, but with a clear-eyed view of what you can do to help yourself. There are many people who have come out of serious illness with raw foods and various natural detoxification regimens.
But it's great that you've come back to raw in a big way, and know that you have unseen folks rooting for you!

[MrsJohnnyG]

Goodness... Eva, I actually have tears in my eyes (I'll blame it on my too-dry contact lenses! ;))... I didn't think anyone would even remember me! You bet, I will not skulk away and hide this time! :)

Shine, I am SO sorry you went through all that... I will PM you too... what an amazing, STRONG group of raw warriors here!!

THANK YOU again everyone!!!

[Draginvry]

That is actually the reason I'm going forward with my dr's appointment on Wednesday... to ask her to surgically remove it without making me also go through chemo/radiation.

Keep in mind that if you get a diagnosis of "Inflammatory Breast Cancer" then they WILL want to put you on chemo. Expect resistance if you refuse.


Yet now, with the "c word" diagnosis, I don't HAVE to have will power... all I WANT to eat are raw greens and other nutritious stuff... all the nasty stuff I'd been living on has absolutely ZERO appeal to me now... all because of, literally, one WORD!! It's crazy.

Funny how that happens. I notice that many people seem to completely not care about how the human body works... until they are on the verge of death.

It's easy to not care when you can pretend to be healthy. You can watch your news, play your games, chat on your tweets. But lurking in the background is the dreaded word: cancer. Under the surface is disease, destruction, death. And then it rears its ugly head, fuming with toxins. Many people will throw medicine at it, sometimes with little effect. It is a rare soul that chooses their own battle, and is willing to test their own methods.

[freshlight]

Wow, you went through a lot, thanks so much for sharing. I can feel your strength though! You will definitely make it. Remember Eva's words and keep us posted, please. I'm sending lots of good thoughts your way. Take care!!!

[Soldier Girl]

Hi, I have been reading your posts with tears in my eyes. I don't have a personal story to share but I do often wonder what I would do if I got the same news.

I do a lot of research online when I have time. I'm in the military and facing being "required" to receive the H1N1 vaccine. I already am "required" to receive the normal flu shot every year. I don't want the H1N1 vaccine and am hoping they don't make it mandatory. However, if they do, I found something wonderful that will help. If you have time, check this out. It is called the Miracle Mineral Supplement. I ordered it but have not received or tried it yet. I'm in my 50s and am getting all the "old people" health issues. I have been trying to go totally raw for many months but it is so hard to stick with it living with "SAD" family.

Good luck to you and please keep us posted on how you're doing. I love your attitude and I just know you're going to beat this with flying colors!!

~Debbie

[Veganforlife]

Julia - you are a strong woman.

Sending energies your way my friend...

(((hugs)))

[kiropa]

your story struck a chord.

please fight the fight in every way you can. i know first hand that miracles can happen.

i, too, suffered 4 miscarriages and a twin demise, but am elated to say that now, many years later, i am the proud, proud mom to three healthy, beautiful, little girls. the story of the beginning of my pregnancy with my oldest daughter really is one that defies what text books say.

i have not survived cancer. but, my sister in law found herself surprisingly pregnant just a year or two after finishing treatment for lymphoma. she is healthy and the baby is perfect in every way.

i know conventional medicine can be scary, but please research all options for you & your child to be.

miracles happen everyday. you're next!

[freshlight]

wow kiropa, this is so inspiring! Perhaps you could write a book about your experiences? I bet there are a lot of folks out there who'd love to read it!

[GlimR]

Thinking of you with love and light hon...thank you for sharing what you have learned and are learning as you go.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Good luck tomorrow.

[Eva]

Goodness... Eva, I actually have tears in my eyes (I'll blame it on my too-dry contact lenses! ;))... I didn't think anyone would even remember me! You bet, I will not skulk away and hide this time! :)

Shine, I am SO sorry you went through all that... I will PM you too... what an amazing, STRONG group of raw warriors here!!

THANK YOU again everyone!!!

Julia! Yay! I am not around much lately, just checking in!!! AND soooo glad you will check in. Not that I'm encouraging you to attach yourself to the computer. But you know how we all feel, so you know...

Saying a prayer for tomorrow, that you find more clarity from your doctor's visit.

:)

[VeGenesis]

Julia, Have you considered IV Sodium Ascorbate? A doctor here is using that. It is high levels of Vitamin-C. As much as 250 grams a treatment. I have talked to people who had it and they were all positive about it.

I also know people who used "funneling" to apply Ozone to the skin over a tumor and zap it with Oxygen. Cancer hates this. Both of these do not zap you immune system and you may consider using them in a combo plan such as yours.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

I personally treated a patient who moved down from NYC with breast cancer who took megadoses of vitamin C IV weekly. She was young and otherwise healthy. She was one of my very favorite patients. She did not survive. Sorry for being blunt. I'd like you to see all sides.

[littlemarie]

I'm praying for you!

[rawmiss]

Hi Julia, When I read about how you went into for an ultrasound at week 7 and everything was OK and then at week 9 there were problems, something jogged my memory. "Wasn't there a reason why I didn't do ultrasounds"

I can't remember if there was, but I didn't do an ultrasound with my first (until I was in labor during a homebirth and I had to be dragged off to the emergency room for an ultrasound to check out suspicous bleeding - all with my midwife telling me that I probably had placenta problems and would have to have a C-section.) Because of that experience I do recommend that everyone get at least one ultrasound to make sure that the placenta is in the right place - especially if you are going to do a homebirth. So I did the ultrasound and then went back home and delivered because the placenta was OK - so much fun. With my next two I had an ultrasound in either the second or third trimester.

So I looked up Ultrasound on Wiki and they do list some side effects but they don't say that there is a risk of miscarriage, but if I were pregnant again I would avoid ultrasounds until later in the pregnancy. To quote them: "However, ultrasonic energy has two potential physiological effects: it enhances inflammatory response; and it can heat soft tissue" This might explain why the babies always seem to "shy away" from the ultrasonic fetal heart moniters they use when they check the heartbeat. And it makes me wish I had waited until the third trimester instead of doing that one that I did in the second trimester.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound#Diagnostic_sonography

[MrsJohnnyG]

I personally treated a patient who moved down from NYC with breast cancer who took megadoses of vitamin C IV weekly. She was young and otherwise healthy. She was one of my very favorite patients. She did not survive. Sorry for being blunt. I'd like you to see all sides.
I definitely DO want to see all sides. When possible, though, I prefer specifics. What type, phase and grade of breast cancer did she have? Did she have the tumor surgically removed, or was vitamin C IV her only treatment?

I am definitely open to supplementing vitamin C (IV or otherwise) beyond what I'm consuming in my foods and juices but am also going to continue my 400mg CoQ10 and eating raw apricot kernels and sprouted millet for the amygdalin.... and have this thing cut out surgically.


Hi Julia, When I read about how you went into for an ultrasound at week 7 and everything was OK and then at week 9 there were problems, something jogged my memory. "Wasn't there a reason why I didn't do ultrasounds"
I know... I am anti-ultrasound for that reason. But, my baby died because of Turner syndrome, a genetic disorder, not the ultrasound. The only reason I agreed to one that early (and they wanted me to have one at FIVE weeks, but I refused) was because my HCG levels were so high, they were concerned I had an ectopic pregnancy. (I didn't... just a very "healthy" pregnancy... just, sadly, not a genetically healthy baby.)

If I'm ever blessed to be able to get pregnant a fifth time, I'm not going to let them strong-arm me into an ultrasound this time. (In my heart, I don't know if I'll ever get that chance... but I'll pretend to be optimistic about that. :) )


Keep in mind that if you get a diagnosis of "Inflammatory Breast Cancer" then they WILL want to put you on chemo. Expect resistance if you refuse.
Thanks... I saw that the 5-year survival rate for inflammatory breast cancer is only 18%. Thankfully I don't seem to have any of the symptoms for that (reddened/dimpled area where the cancer is, skin hot to the touch, etc.).

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Yet now, with the "c word" diagnosis, I don't HAVE to have will power... all I WANT to eat are raw greens and other nutritious stuff... all the nasty stuff I'd been living on has absolutely ZERO appeal to me now... all because of, literally, one WORD!! It's crazy.
Funny how that happens. I notice that many people seem to completely not care about how the human body works... until they are on the verge of death.

It's easy to not care when you can pretend to be healthy. You can watch your news, play your games, chat on your tweets. But lurking in the background is the dreaded word: cancer. Under the surface is disease, destruction, death. And then it rears its ugly head, fuming with toxins. Many people will throw medicine at it, sometimes with little effect. It is a rare soul that chooses their own battle, and is willing to test their own methods.
Yes, I know that's how many people live their lives. Never in a million years would I have believed that losing my baby for the fourth time would turn me into one of those people. Even before I went raw, I DID care how the human body worked... I was physically fit, ate mostly vegetarian, exercised, etc. I guess it's easy to judge until you're hit with grief so powerful it knocks you off your feet for a year.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Oh, I forgot to update on Wednesday's appointment.

Wow, what drama. :eek: She showed me on my films where the cancer is (it's 5cm with little microcalcification offshoots) and said she would do a biopsy all throughout the area and my lymph nodes (even though there doesn't seem to be anything concerning there), to know what kind of cancer I have, before surgically removing it.

I smiled and said, "Great, but instead of doing a needle biopsy first, I'd like to go ahead and have it removed, THEN have it tested once it's outside of my body."

(Basically, I don't want holes poked in this thing, possibly allowing the cancer to spread... why not just have the whole thing removed first, THEN test it?!)

This started a 15-minute argument where the doctor kept telling me she refuses to remove it without doing a biopsy first. I politely asked her why, and explained why I preferred to have the whole thing removed, but she never gave me a SINGLE shred of evidence why the biopsy-first way is better -- she just kept saying things like "What you're describing is the way things were done 30 years ago." Okayyy, so why was it BAD then?

She never did give me a good answer, but was getting more and more emotional. (My husband later told me he thought it was because I was so calm and polite, which must have rattled her for some reason.)

Finally, she looked like she was about to cry, and said "I'm sorry, I need to just step outside for a minute," then charged out the door.

I looked at my husband, shocked, and said, "What did I do??" He was just as stunned as I was!

I don't get it -- I'm open to Western medicine, but you have to explain WHY something works better. You can't just say "This is the modern way so it must be better" -- that's not a reason, IMO! Doctors claim they want patients to take charge of their own care, but when you try to, or even ask a simple question, that's the reaction??

Anyway, I decided I'm better off with a doctor who isn't quite as emotional and who will EXPLAIN why certain procedures will be better for ME... not "this is just how we always do things."

After a lot of calling around last week, I found one who seems to be better than the other two specialists I've seen so far. *sigh* We'll see....

Oh yeah, and all that was even WITHOUT me daring to tell the doctor that I was self-treating with raw organic foods, supplements, and other lifestyle changes. I'm sure that would've gone over like a ton of bricks. :rolleyes:

[rawlight]

After a lot of calling around last week, I found one who seems to be better than the other two specialists I've seen so far. *sigh* We'll see....



A friend of mine just went through the whole interviewing surgeon thing for breast cancer. Like you she knew who and what she was looking for. Third time was a charm for her, so I think this is par for the course.

Sounds like you pressed some kind of a button with this doc and hopefully she'll figure out what it was and learn from it. Congratulate yourself that you made a traditionally oriented doctor think through the 'standard procedure' talk!!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

About your Wednesday visit: She probably is worried, in this day and age of lawsuits, about stepping outside the box surgically, if you know what I mean. She wants to do what is medically accepted. In her defense, the fact that she was moved almost to tears over this, whether it be out of frustration, or concern for you, says something. She feels strongly about you having this threat to your life removed. If you've found a surgeon who will work with you, good. Time is of the essence. If your cancer spreads, you won't get a second chance. (unless you opt for a stem cell transplant, which I don't see you doing...) And then it's a stretch.

My patient, who I will not identify because of Hippa laws, was in the beginning stages of breast cancer, living in NYC, she declined chemo, and was treated by an herbalist with large doses of Vitamin C, administered IV. When she moved down to Fl, my oncologist had us continue to administer the Vitamin C, as this was the only treatment she would accept. Scans soon showed progression of the tumor. She had a mastectomy. Scared now, she opted for chemo. This went on for months. Unfortunately, her cancer metastacized, spreading to her lungs and also into her mediastinum (the place inside her chest, around her trachea and esophagus.) I almost never followed my patients after they left us, call it self preservation in a job like that. I went to see her in the hospital, she was on hospice. The tumor was wrapped around her trachea (breathing passage) and slowly, very slowly and painfully,was cutting off her breathing. I recall to this day the look of terror in her eyes as she gripped my hand. I can see it clearly. Forgive me for this graphic description, but honey you have no clue... If you wonder why I, and this doctor of yours are trying so desperately to get you to have that tumor removed, it's because we've seen what happens down the line. I could tell you many stories like this, and so could that doctor. Anyway... this was ten years ago and I treated many, many, many with breast cancer, I have no clue what type of cancer, what stage... So that's my story, and I hope it helps. Good luck to you!!

[MrsJohnnyG]

About your Wednesday visit: She probably is worried, in this day and age of lawsuits, about stepping outside the box surgically, if you know what I mean. She wants to do what is medically accepted. In her defense, the fact that she was moved almost to tears over this, whether it be out of frustration, or concern for you, says something. She feels strongly about you having this threat to your life removed. If you've found a surgeon who will work with you, good. Time is of the essence. If your cancer spreads, you won't get a second chance. (unless you opt for a stem cell transplant, which I don't see you doing...) And then it's a stretch.

My patient, who I will not identify because of Hippa laws, was in the beginning stages of breast cancer, living in NYC, she declined chemo, and was treated by an herbalist with large doses of Vitamin C, administered IV. When she moved down to Fl, my oncologist had us continue to administer the Vitamin C, as this was the only treatment she would accept. Scans soon showed progression of the tumor. She had a mastectomy. Scared now, she opted for chemo. This went on for months. Unfortunately, her cancer metastacized, spreading to her lungs and also into her mediastinum (the place inside her chest, around her trachea and esophagus.) I almost never followed my patients after they left us, call it self preservation in a job like that. I went to see her in the hospital, she was on hospice. The tumor was wrapped around her trachea (breathing passage) and slowly, very slowly and painfully,was cutting off her breathing. I recall to this day the look of terror in her eyes as she gripped my hand. I can see it clearly. Forgive me for this graphic description, but honey you have no clue... If you wonder why I, and this doctor of yours are trying so desperately to get you to have that tumor removed, it's because we've seen what happens down the line. I could tell you many stories like this, and so could that doctor. Anyway... this was ten years ago and I treated many, many, many with breast cancer, I have no clue what type of cancer, what stage... So that's my story, and I hope it helps. Good luck to you!!
Thank you so much for sharing more details. Yikes. Reading your post is the first time it occurred to me I could actually die from this.

Now that I think about it, I'm sure mine must be very rapidly spreading/invasive... how else could I have a 5cm mass that went from nothing in just a few months? :( Yikes, yikes, yikes... I guess if it's already spread to other organs, I'm doomed, right?

[snoops]

Aww, please don't think that way. Please be positive until you find out for sure. And then be positive you will beat it. I believe you will. (((((hugs))))))

[Sugar Snap Pea]

((((Julia)))) Go to a surgeon, do it now. Positive thoughts only. Every time a scary thought comes, replace it with the thought "Only good can come from this!" Visualize yourself healthy, happy. But take the surgeon's advice. I'm sorry if I scared you, but trust me and do it. Good luck, and I believe, as I said, Only good can come from this!

[rawpromises]

Mrs Johnny G, my dear girl. Dont' even think about the fact you could MAYBE die from this. We can all die from anything at some point in our lives regardless if it is cancer or if we walk out the door and get hit by a car. What you need right now is some prayer, a little faith and a whole lot of support. My mother just passed this last Dec of inflammatory Breast cancer. Who said the survial rate is 18% THEM. My mom had IBC and passed away almost 9 years later. She had it pretty bad when they discoved it. She knew she had it almost a year before she decided to go see a doctor out of fear. She certainly isn't one of those statistics. She didn't even eat raw. Had she have maybe she would still be here. Don't listen to anyone who says you have a death sentence. Your not doomed. Right now you have a plan, your asking questions and you have faith. All of that will get you though the day. Sugar Snap Pea story is one of many stories of how someone can die and what they did or did not do. My mother story is a story of that as well. All I'm saying is that you have your own story so WRITE IT your own way. Yes, anyone can point out the two sides Good and Bad to any situation but for me I try to look at what is going to be good and not what could happen. Anything COULD happen but taking you own treatment into your own hands is somthing that should happen. Educate yourself, become your own best friend and by all means FIGHT FOR YOURSELF . Best of luck to you. Your going to be fine. Just in case no one told you. :)

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you... I really appreciate it... I'm more scared than I have been since this all came up, but I guess I'll make it through... hey, at least I have good life insurance so my hubby will be set! :D :D :D

[snoops]

My Mom had breast cancer in 1965. Imagine how they treated it then!! She died in 2003 from something completely unrelated!! Statistics are only that.

[rawpromises]

Good I'm glad you got my message tonight. I mean it girl. Your going to be just fine. You have a plan, You have the fight in you, and my GOD you can do this whatever it takes. You have been to hell and back this past year. You could say your due a break but that isn't what has been dealt to you. Make your own break RIGHT NOW> Starting with raw nutrition, and educating what you want to do for you. ONLY YOU. Whatever that is. And let me say it one more time. You can do this and your going to do this for yourself. AND your going to make it. I know your scared. Who wouldn't be. I would be too but I also know that I would do like you are and get myself a game plan. Your allowed to cry and think bad thoughts but don't let it consume you. Give it it's respest and then allow your head to get back in the game.My mom was locked with fear, but she did it. She always said she wasn't strong but to me she was REAL STRONG. Think about it. She made it almost 4 more years than they gave her. Had she found Raw food who knows. She did try and eat well and she did exercise so there is somthing in this. Also let me say another friend of mine who had cancer NOT Inflamatory eats raw now and combined it with chemo. She is doing just great. It just goes to show you. YOU are in control here. So kick some butt girl and get back to the girl who said I'm happy I have cancer and here is why. Don't you dare leave this board and get depressed. We are happy your hear and hear is why. We love you and we need you to show us how it's done. Got it. Now you can get some sleep.:D

[MrsJohnnyG]

:) You're awesome. (or should I say, RAWsome!) Thank you!!!!!!!!! Off to sweet dreams while I listen to an anti-cancer self-hypnosis mp3. LOL

[katchmoleen]

For every scare story of someone who died from cancer, there are so many success stories of people who overcame cancer with raw food and supplements and juice fasting. Get on amazon and google and you will find so many of them. Go to Curezone and hang out. I was a chemotherapy nurse too. Chemo kills people too. It killed my dad. Who knows what the vitamin C lady ate?

Surgical removal is an option that only you can decide about. There are pros and cons to it. I am SO glad you are sticking to your guns about the biopsy though. It is a perfectly reasonable request.

Stay raw and stay here. We are pulling for you!

[MrsJohnnyG]

I was a chemotherapy nurse too. Chemo kills people too. It killed my dad.
I am so so sorry for your loss. :( I have NO doubt that chemo kills many many people, possibly as much as more as cancer itself.

Who knows what the vitamin C lady ate?
That's what I was wondering... had she completely overhauled her eating, cut out sugar, ate fresh organic raw produce, etc., or was she pinning all her hopes on that IV of vitamin C as though it alone was the medicine that could cure her? I've also heard of someone who "believed in alternative medicine" and popped zillions of supplements every day, thinking they would cure him, but he continued to eat the same rotten SAD food as always. I don't get that.

That reminds me, one of my close friends went through breast cancer a couple of years ago... she was only 36 when diagnosed... and I remember being stunned when she told me on the phone one day that she had just finished a chemo treatment and was going to "reward" herself with a big brownie with ice cream on top. :eek:

Just recently, she emailed and offered to bring over some pumpkin bread. I replied that I had completely revamped my diet and wasn't eating sugar (I didn't even bother telling her about the whole raw thing ;)), and I said, "but I'd love to get together with you for anti-cancer green smoothies!" :D (She didn't reply to that!!)

[rawpromises]

Now this is the Julia we love. Seems like some good sleep and a new attitude this morning. Question things, don't get in the doomed mode. I'm so happy it's a new day and your starting it off right. I just ran 4 miles and am going to go join you in a green smoothie. Today is a good day for me to revamp my diet and practice what I preach. It' s a good day for me to begin a challage again. I fell off the wagon and I'm back. So lets get it going with a green smoothie to our health. Have a great day.

[Shine]

Sending you (((HUGS))) Positive Thoughts and Prayers

You WILL beat this!!!

[terry brown]

Julia,
Seeing you full of vibrant health and vibrant energy.
You are very inspiring.
I hold you in my prayers and good thoughts.
Terry

[Moretta]

Wishing you only the best. We are here for you.

[Raw Angel Mom]

((((Julia)))), thank you for sharing your story. I with you through prayer and know that i am proud of you for standing your ground about your health. Chemo decrease your immune system, so happy that you decline that. The nice anti-oxidant from your vegetables and fruits will bring back life in you.

You are a very brave soul and again, so proud of you. Your little girl is waiting for the perfect bodysuit to come back to you. You bet that you will give birth.

Do not use antiperspirant or antisudorifique. The toxin needs to get out near your breast not to get stuck there.

I see you perfectly healthy and holding this cute little girl in your arm.

[Ilse W.]

Julia,
More (((hugs))) for you from your cheering section!!! Don't let ANYBODY scare you or tell you that you are wrong with your approach. The medical industry hates to lose customers, but don't listen to their fear mongering. Chemo is terribly poisonous and is normally what eventually kills cancer patients in conventional therapies. I'm a cancer survivor (Hodgkin's lymphoma 7 years ago) and will be spending the rest of what I expect to be my very long life continuously detoxing my body from those horrible poisons. You die only when your liver can no longer keep up with the toxic load! I wish I had educated myself before the oncologist had a chance to scare me into agreeing to chemo. My youngest sister had breast cancer 6 years ago and discontinued conventional treatments under her oncologist's protest. I had sent her the book "The China Study", so she instead became a vegan who has been cancer free since. (She did undego a lumpectomy.) Keep reading! Try www.cancertutor.com. Sounds like you already have learned a lot. BTW, my sister still takes her daily apricot pits.
For Hulda Budwig's concoction, I would try to get raw quark (or cottage cheese) because of the enzymes. Raw applies even there.
I wish you all the best. Keep us posted, we'll keep cheering you on!

[Veggiefamily]

Have seen the movie Sexy crazy cancer? It's a great movie about a woman diagnosed with a rare cancer which there is no cure for. She healed her self with raw food and exercise. You can find it on Amazon.com

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you so much!! I'm feeling so uplifted today, in large part because of YOU all!!!

I met with my new doctor this afternoon. Of course, he's a typical doctor... doesn't think diet makes much difference but it "can't hurt to eat healthfully" (whatever he thinks that means). I don't care... I just need him to be a competent surgeon, and God and I will handle the rest. :)

One interesting thing... the previous doctor had said I have a 5cm mass. This new doctor examined me and I said, "so it's 5cm, huh?"

He said, "Well, more like 3 or 4cm." :eek: I acted calm, but inside I was shrieking, "It's true about taking this much CoQ10!!!!!!!!!" I had noticed in the last couple of days it felt smaller, but I wasn't sure if it was my imagination (because I want my new raw lifestyle to work so badly... kwim?), but the doctor confirmed it! (I'm sure he just thinks the previous doctor was mistaken about the size! :D)

My raw apricot pits arrived today (LOL!) and I've been munching on the kernels... everyone says they taste horribly bitter, but they're honestly not that bad, and they're actually growing on me.

It's INSANE that the medical industry considers synthetic chemical cocktails of drugs to be somehow better than the real, whole, natural FOOD that God gave us!! And I can tell it's having an effect (shrinking tumor aside)... I already feel healthier than I have in several years!!


You are a very brave soul and again, so proud of you. Your little girl is waiting for the perfect bodysuit to come back to you. You bet that you will give birth.
Okay, now I've got tears streaming down my cheeks! I'm actually going to print that out and stick it on one of my walls/desk/mirrors (along with affirmations and Scripture verses that have really helped me)... THANK YOU!!!

[MrsJohnnyG]

For Hulda Budwig's concoction, I would try to get raw quark (or cottage cheese) because of the enzymes. Raw applies even there.
Yes, I've been making Budwig's concoction but I've been using cottage cheese because I can't find quark, and I don't know what raw vegan substance would be adequate as a substitute... I'm okay with that, for now, but still researching.

YES, I need to watch Crazy Sexy Cancer! Thank you for the reminder! I actually went to her website the other day... really inspiring that she overcame her cancer with natural methods instead of the usual "cut, burn, poison" methodology.

[margoss]

glad it was smaller. Keep on killing it, in your mind too!

[mstrish]

I loved your honesty. I too have been dealing with a terminal issue that I can turn around with raw foods but have wanted to die also. I went 100% raw 3/09 because of IBD and stayed raw until 2 months ago. I really can feel your pain....I have no children of my own but raised my eldest sisters 2 children when she passed away from a stroke at the age of 32....It's been 14 years and I still miss her. I love those kids like they were my own. I feel your strenght and courage and this is what I needed to get me going again. If you ned a raw food buddy to call and support each other I am here for you and would love the extra support. Good things are in your future....noithing worth while comes easy. My best to you and your family.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Who knows what the Vitamin C Lady ate? I do. She was a very healthy eater, vegetarian, she used to pack her own lunches rather than eating the restaurant takeout we provided, and I remember she took vitamins also. I don't know if she was raw, because I didn't know any such thing existed back then, so I wouldn't have noticed.

Chemo? Have I ever once tried to push chemo on Julia? Ever? No. I told her to go for the surgical cure, and I stand by that. If I remember correctly, (and I do) Julia asked for all sides in this discussion. I also said if I were faced again with cancer, I don't know what I'd do. I don't know if I'd choose chemo because I've seen what it does to people.

"The medical industry hates to lose customers, but don't listen to their fear mongering."-- Get outta town!! I'm not the medical industry. Do you think I benefit in any way if Julia chooses medical treatment?? I read these threads because I'm interested in Raw, and I'm interested in Health. Every once in awhile I run across someone who has a serious problem, and I usually voice my opinion when this happens. I shared one of the most heartfelt moments I've ever had with someone, and you all call it fear mongering. Give me a break.

I didn't have any bad intention or ulterior motive when I wrote what I wrote to Julia. Believe it or not, I actually want her to survive this!

[rawpromises]

Yeah Baby, It's samller. See there you go. Your on your way to being cancer free. You are awesome. Keep it up and eat those apricots pits.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Who knows what the Vitamin C Lady ate? I do. She was a very healthy eater, vegetarian, she used to pack her own lunches rather than eating the restaurant takeout we provided, and I remember she took vitamins also. I don't know if she was raw, because I didn't know any such thing existed back then, so I wouldn't have noticed.

Chemo? Have I ever once tried to push chemo on Julia? Ever? No. I told her to go for the surgical cure, and I stand by that. If I remember correctly, (and I do) Julia asked for all sides in this discussion. I also said if I were faced again with cancer, I don't know what I'd do. I don't know if I'd choose chemo because I've seen what it does to people.

"The medical industry hates to lose customers, but don't listen to their fear mongering."-- Get outta town!! I'm not the medical industry. Do you think I benefit in any way if Julia chooses medical treatment?? I read these threads because I'm interested in Raw, and I'm interested in Health. Every once in awhile I run across someone who has a serious problem, and I usually voice my opinion when this happens. I shared one of the most heartfelt moments I've ever had with someone, and you all call it fear mongering. Give me a break.

I didn't have any bad intention or ulterior motive when I wrote what I wrote to Julia. Believe it or not, I actually want her to survive this!
Goodness. I truly don't believe anyone was attacking you or thought you were pushing chemo in any way... maybe I'm misreading? I really appreciate your giving your perspective, and am sure others do too! :)

mstrish... big hugs to you... and yes, I would love to be "raw healing" buddies!!

Thank you for the cheerleading, everyone! :D Going to bed now with "healthy, strong immune system overpowering those nasty, evil cancer cells" thoughts!

[katchmoleen]

No, I think our comments, except about the vit c lady, were directed at her health care providers.

I just saw a book at the bookstore, new one by Suzanne Somers, who interviews a number of MDs who are curing cancer by natural means. As you know she had breast cancer a while back and cured it by surgery and then natural therapies and she is very anti-SAM (standard american medicine). She shares an incident she had last year in which she suddenly couldn't breath and was rushed to the ER. She had a full body MRI and was told she had full body metastatic cancer and needed radical chemo and blood thinners etc etc. She was started on all kinds of meds without her knowledge or consent. Turns out she probably had valley fever, no cancer, and she never got an apology from the oncologist with whom she argued that she would never ever have chemo, and he dissed her totally. Even when they found she didn't have cancer!

Anyway, the book is called Knock Out, and might be helpful in your current quest. She has a long list of doctors in the back.

[michigan roman]

Vitamin C Sources
There are many natural sources of vitamin C, fruits and vegetables are the main foods. Getting your vitamins from natural organic foods is always better than getting them from supplements. Here is a brief list of the fruits and vegetables highest in vitamin C.

1.Acerola
2.Guavas
3.Kiwi fruit
4.Oranges
5.Papayas

And the vegetables:

1.Peppers
2.Parsley
3.Kale
4.Broccoli
5.Cauliflower

Sources:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Pres...

[michigan roman]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/yamahammr/LivestrongLance.jpg

[Ilse W.]

Julia,
Keep it up!!! A shrinking tumor is the best sign that your approach is working. Also remember that cancer cannot survive in an oxygenated and alkaline state, which means keep up the greens and the exercise.
Concerning the Budwig protocol, the way you do it is great. On the apricot pits I believe that they do not taste overly bitter to those people who NEED them. Also, I once read a discussion about the cyanide in them (same as in apple seeds). Apparently the fruit contains something that neutralizes it. When I eat apricot pits, I also eat dehydrated apricots with them.

Sugar Snap Pea - in no way was I trying to equate you with "the medical industry". You may be a product of the standard pharma industry sponsored western educational system, but I see you as part of Julia's cheering section. I have experience with oncologists who insist that nutrition plays no role in health. YOU on the other hand are part of a raw food forum! I understand that you are just voicing your concerns based on your personal experience. I would not encourage anybody to attack cancer purely with Vit C shots. Julia is doing the best thing possible - educate herself.

(((Hugs))) to you, Julia!

[michigan roman]

i copied this below from vitamincfoundation



Vitamin C Sources
There are many natural sources of vitamin C, fruits and vegetables are the main foods. Getting your vitamins from natural organic foods is always better than getting them from supplements. Here is a brief list of the fruits and vegetables highest in vitamin C.

1.Acerola
2.Guavas
3.Kiwi fruit
4.Oranges
5.Papayas

And the vegetables:

1.Peppers
2.Parsley
3.Kale
4.Broccoli
5.Cauliflower

Sources:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Pres...

[Gab]

Hello my sweetheart....
My prayers are said for you.
Honey, quark... I grew up on the stuff and it's got the consistency of cream cheese. I'm German and we use quark for making cheese cake. It's been over 15 years, but I recall that my mom and I used to be able to get it at German delicatessens. Maybe give that a try? I'm not sure where you live, but it might also be available at a farmer's market.

I'm following your progress and am glad that you are taking control and that you seem very open to a combination of treatment forms.

My heart and huge hugs go out to you. Since I've started on raw it also came back to me that in originally God said to man that he was giving us all the living plants to eat. There must have been a reason for that!

We're pulling for you.

gab

[MrsJohnnyG]

HSince I've started on raw it also came back to me that in originally God said to man that he was giving us all the living plants to eat.
Thank you... and yes, several passages in the Bible spell out one of the first recorded raw diets. I remember when I was about 10, I went vegan for the first time because I read in the book of Daniel how they ate fruits and vegetables, and didn't eat meat, wine, etc., and they were so much healthier than the meat-and-wine consumers.

Also, this is kinda goofy, but my brother's mother-in-law (who had gone through breast cancer 15 years ago) sent me pages of Bible verses that had helped her while she was healing.

I was reading it one night after having decided to eat raw apricot seeds every day.

One of the Scriptures was, "Praise the Lord, O my soul, who forgives your sins and heals all your diseases, who redeems your life from the pit"... I read that and thought, "yes, from the APRICOT pit!!" Ha!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Healthy, healthy thoughts to you. I don't know if it's too cold where you live, but don't forget about the healthy benefits of sunshine!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Oh, Atlanta. Go, girl!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

...and thank you, Katchmoleen and EmmaT! :)

[D'vorah]

Also remember that cancer cannot survive in an oxygenated and alkaline state


I have a friend who's husband has just been dx'd with precancerous lesions. Can anyone quote a reliable source for the above regarding cancer? And is it that it cannot form, or cannot continue to grow after forming, or both?

Thanks in advance,

Deborah

[Eva]

Julia! Glad to see what's happening with you! Looks like you are in the right spirit!! :)

[Caligirl]

Thank you for sharing your story. I admire your honestly and how strong you are.

Big Hugs,
Wendi

[RawPaw]

Wow, just wow. Have you thought of the baking soda alkalizing route that seemed to have cured some people in Europe? God be with you, sister.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thanks, everyone... it's been a bit of a roller-coaster ride... I wish I could stay I've stayed unwaveringly positive since I first posted... but I haven't. I've had quite a few freak-out moments since then. LOL

I guess my biggest two fears are 1) my doctor "forcing" me to do chemo (I know they can't technically force people to do anything, but they have ways of doing it), and 2) being one of the "alternative medicine horror stories" my doctors keep telling me about ("so-and-so tried to heal her cancer with just diet and exercise, and she was dead in 6 months... if only she had done chemo!" -- that kind of thing).

One thing that has helped is that I've become "cancer-fighting email buddies" with Alissa's friend Diana (Alissa mentioned her on another post recently). Diana spent three weeks at the Hippocrates Institute and has such a great approach to fighting cancer. I'm trying to follow all the Hippocrates recommendations, and while most parts of it come easily, a few components are sooo hard (NO fruit is allowed, not even an apple in a green smoothie... I miss my beloved blueberries). But, I will do whatever it takes to beat this and NOT become a horror story my doctor tells his patients!

My husband has been with me all the way on fighting this naturally. He has a good healthy skepticism of the cancer "industry" like I do! But now, I'm afraid he's starting to cave... he's thinking that if my doctor tells me I NEED to have chemo/radiation, I should do it, but do all the things I'm doing in addition to that. (I'll find out next week... first they had to see what type of cancer it is... whether it's what they call estrogen-positive etc.) I wish I knew the "right" thing to do!!

RawPaw, I definitely believe in alkalizing my body and I know my raw eating will contribute a lot toward that... I've looked into the baking soda thing too, but I think my biggest acidifying factor is stress/depression. I need to figure out how to stay as positive as I sounded on that first post, instead of feeling stressed, scared, and beaten down all the time.

[michigan roman]

mrs jg , dont think you were at this forum when alissas freind / diane
posted here daily as ' rawtruth ' . but if you were you'd know you couldnt be hooked up with anyone better , shes super bright and pleasant - plus totally knowledgable of nutrition / raw diet / natural healing methods . if i were you i swear ide just shut my mind down on the matter and follow dianes lead

and i guarantee you could find hundreds of others that were on these boards when diane was here daily and they'd agree

[Veganforlife]

mrs jg , dont think you were at this forum when alissas freind / diane
posted here daily as ' rawtruth ' . but if you were you'd know you couldnt be hooked up with anyone better , shes super bright and pleasant - plus totally knowledgable of nutrition / raw diet / natural healing methods . if i were you i swear ide just shut my mind down on the matter and follow dianes lead

and i guarantee you could find hundreds of others that were on these boards when diane was here daily and they'd agree

here is a link to her thread:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=54562&highlight=friend

[RawPaw]

RawPaw, I definitely believe in alkalizing my body and I know my raw eating will contribute a lot toward that... I've looked into the baking soda thing too, but I think my biggest acidifying factor is stress/depression. I need to figure out how to stay as positive as I sounded on that first post, instead of feeling stressed, scared, and beaten down all the time.

Wow, is that a major factor really? I need to look into that. Thanks.

[katchmoleen]

Renegade Health has a special going on 14 hour audio recordings (plus PDF transcript) of Charlotte Gerson talking in depth about her father's program. Plus a bunch of testimonials. Till midnight tonight it is on half price:
http://www.renegadehealth.com/gersontapes/

Not connected with them or benefiting from this in any way, This is powerful and important health info for those who are fighting for their lives.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

I'm pretty sure this is what I would choose if faced with a cancer diagnosis today. I researched Gerson Clinic awhile back, when I was raw, just because I have an interest in all things medical, and am very impressed with them.

[MrsJohnnyG]

You guys... I have an update that I can scarcely believe. Now, keep in mind that I have been told by THREE very well-respected doctors (breast cancer surgeons/specialists) that I have what's called IDC (which is invasive -- a scary type of cancer to have). One of the doctors, when I mentioned the natural approach I want to take, got upset, had to leave the room, etc. She told me that if I didn't get treatment (their form of "treatment" -- chemo/radiation) that I would likely die within a year.

I had a biopsy with a new doctor this week.

The results came back around 4pm today... ALL the cores (samples) came back as what's called DCIS... yes, it's cancer, but NOT the invasive type!! He actually said, "This is very exciting that it's all in situ... it means you won't need to do chemo before surgery"... I thought, "HECK NO, I wouldn't have been doing chemo anyway!!" (I've never heard a doctor say something was "very exciting" before! LOL)

I have been floating on a cloud all evening... I didn't think it was possible for IDC to regress to DCIS so I didn't think it was remotely a possibility, but I just found some other instances in which this happened (ALL with raw/alternative methods). Amazing.

I posted my new biopsy results on a cancer forum I'm on (a forum where I got reamed out for mentioning my raw/alternative approach), and I know the women there are going to think my other doctors were just wrong. Um, I know what's going on in my body and I KNOW that in just a few short weeks, my body has started healing itself because of my raw diet + daily exercise and sunshine + sleeping in complete darkness. Even so, I consider this nothing short of a miracle that I am thanking God for. And Diana H. too... she has been so helpful to me and such an inspiration!... and ALL of you here who are so wonderful and encouraging!!

Renegade Health has a special going on 14 hour audio recordings (plus PDF transcript) of Charlotte Gerson talking in depth about her father's program. Plus a bunch of testimonials. Till midnight tonight it is on half price:
http://www.renegadehealth.com/gersontapes/

Not connected with them or benefiting from this in any way, This is powerful and important health info for those who are fighting for their lives.
THANK YOU SO MUCH... I am buying these!! That is a fantastic deal! I've been reading a lot about the Gerson approach and have seen a bit of the interview with Charlotte... SO impressed.

[MrsJohnnyG]

BTW - in spite of this good news, I still plan on doing a stay at either Gerson or Hippocrates. I don't know how I will possibly afford it, but I want to continue this trend my body seems to be on!! Thank you again, katchmoleen, for the info on the Gerson tapes!!

[katchmoleen]

WOWOWOWOWOW! I've got chillbumps so big you could hang a hat on them! that is such great news! Keep up the great work, what an encouragement to us all.

[MrsJohnnyG]

katchmoleen, thank you!! When I woke up this morning I had to ask my husband if I had dreamed it. But no, he heard the doctor too and it's not a dream!!

I don't have a source on stress and other emotional factors being acidifying to the body -- I seem to remember David Wolfe saying that -- but I do know it's VERY unhealthy to the body, acidifying or not. It's bad for cortisol levels and other hormones, just bad for a lot of things.


You mentioned sleeping in complete darkness... what is that about?
I first learned about this when trying to conceive a baby. What this does is helps your body regulate melatonin levels. You know how everyone says to get 8 hours of sleep and try to get to bed by 10? The reason for that is the same... if you can get to bed early, sleep in total darkness (light-blocking shades/blinds/drapes and ideally don't even have a clock radio light shining on you while you sleep), it will regulate melatonin levels which has all kinds of good effects on the body. My client is here so got to run but here's an article; you can also Google "sleep in total darkness" etc.
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?id=1677

[SharonC]

Just Stop Calling It Cancer - DCIS

One glaring problem with screening mammography is the detection of DCIS at a rate of 60,000 case per year. DCIS is ductal carcinoma in situ, a pathology diagnosis which carries a very good prognosis, a 98% - 5 year survival with no treatment. In spite of the rather benign natural history of DCIS, mainstream medicine treats these lesions aggressively with surgery and radiation. Recently, the NIH has called for a change in terminology, asking pathologists to stop calling it "cancer".

Here is the NIH consensus statement: "Because of the noninvasive nature of DCIS, coupled with its favorable prognosis, strong consideration should be given to elimination of the use of the anxiety-producing term “carcinoma” from the description of DCIS. "

Spontaneous Remission of Breast Cancer ? One screening study reported by Welch in the Annals of Internal Medicine actually concluded that many small breast cancers spontaneously regress. Gina Kolata wrote a New York Times piece about it. Actually, spontaneous regression of breast cancer has been reported many times in the medical literature. Sir William Osler, a legendary and revered doctor reported 14 cases himself.

http://jeffreydach.com/2009/10/23/rethink-pink-october-breast-cancer-mammogram-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx


"Further, when one subtracts the figures for DCIS, the much touted successes against breast cancer take on a complete different picture.

DCIS, which stands Ductal Carcinoma in Situ, is viewed as a stage 0 cancer, and has a cure rate of almost 100%. At one time, DCIS was considered a pre-cancerous condition and was not included in cancer survival statistics."

"Numerous other women have beaten their cancers with the famed Budwig flaxseed and cottage cheese protocol, with juicing such as used in the Gerson treatment method, with a highly successful oleander extract based protocol, with cesium chloride, medicinal mushroom products, Protocel and many other methods. Yet you hear virtually nothing in the mainstream media about such successes and treatments and you will likely find few, if any, doctors who even know about such treatments, much less doctors who will ascribe to such treatments, Again, they are not patentable, they are not approved by the powers that be, and, rather than being embraced and saving lives they are either ignored or suppressed as unwanted competition to the billions in profits from the mainstream cancer industries."

http://www.healthiertalk.com/breast-cancer-deception-month-hiding-truth-beneath-sea-pink-part-iv-1041



Prime example of a reckless system As the No. 1 cancer threat to women worldwide, breast cancer also represents one of the most improperly treated diseases of our time.

"DCIS may be discovered when a lump forms within the breast, or the first sign may be the appearance of white specks (microcalcifications) on a routine mammogram. With DCIS, cancerous cells are confined to the inside of the ducts (fine tubes) within the breast. Since they have not broken through the wall of the breast ducts to affect other breast tissue (become invasive), there is no risk of the cancer cells spreading. This is why DCIS is sometimes called a "pre-cancerous condition."

http://www.sedonaobserver.com/SO_001/BreastCancer.htm



IODINE...
http://www.amazon.com/Breast-Cancer-Iodine-Prevent-Survive/dp/1552128849
http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/prevsurbcawi.html
http://cancernd.blogspot.com/2009/01/iodine-helps-prevent-and-treat-breast.html
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html
http://www.hacres.com/diet/articles/Iodine.pdf
http://www.seagreensonline.com/faqs_natural_iodine.asp
http://www.standardprocess.com/display/StandardProcessCatalog.spi?ID=132



Lying with statistics How conventional medicine confuses the public with absolute risk vs. relative risk http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/rr.html


Know risks of treatments. There are much better, safer, saner ways to prevent recurrence without damaging treatments. My Mom was given synthetic HRT for 8 years for hot flashes - this caused/contributed to her hormone positive breast cancer. She had the lump removed and had radiation (no chemo recommended and refused the drug tomoxifen that was recommended) - this was 10 years ago. She started having strange feelings in her chest after the radiation and is now dealing with heart rhythm problems and some artery damage, likely caused/contributed to by the radiation - the cardiologist even admitted that this is a risk of radiation. She also is dealing with lymphedema from the diagnostic lymph node dissection.

My Mom wishes that she would have just had the lump removed and stopped there with conventional treatments. In your case of 'in situ', I think it would be wise to continue all the wonderful things that you are doing and just monitor for awhile. I wouldn't be surprised if it just disappeared in several months.

Blessings to you,
Sharon

[centaurea]

I am on another group about iodine for natural healing and they reference http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ a lot. A LOT of folks on the list report remission of pre-cancer issues like fibrocystic breast disease. Kelp doesn't work as well for a variety of reasons you can read on their site, at least not initially. I have not dealt with cancer of my own, but I wanted to pass it along in case it could be helpful to you.

Ellie

[MrsJohnnyG]

Sharon, THANK YOU for all that great info!! And Ellie, that is very interesting to know -- I just received two bottles of iodine I had ordered from vitacost and will be taking that daily. Thank you for that website -- that sounds like exactly what I've been looking for! The women on the breast cancer forum I've been posting on are VICIOUS to anyone who dares to think that chemicals are the only thing that can save you from cancer!!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Wonderful, wonderful news!!! :p:p:p If I could recommend just one book, Louise Hay's 'You Can Heal Your Life'. Get the one with the beautifully painted pictures in it. Wonderfully uplifting and empowering! Now you have all the tools to heal yourself.

[terry brown]

Julia,
I have not visited this thread in a while.How HAPPY I am to read your latest news!!!!!!!!!
I continue to send love and good thoughts your way!!!
Terry

[gabriele]

Julia

i have been reading quietly all along and i applaud you for what you are doing and think you are rather heroic. It's not easy to go against the flow, not to mention going against doctors' opinions. Good for you. Great news and great job, you are inspirational.

[Green_Woman]

Your initial post has me both weeping and rejoicing inside... I have no words, only deep hopes for you, and a glimmer of what might be hope for me, too...

[rawpromises]

God Bless you. What wonderful news this it at this time of the year and anytime of the year. Keep up all the good raw life you are leading and may healing vibes and perfect progonosis continue. Feels so good.

[rawffle]

Julia,

I just read this entire thread and will be leaving my house beaming (I'm going to go see my family for the Holiday break).

I have never had cancer, but I have lost 2 babies, one at 5 months due to a genetic anomaly (Trisomy).

I am so inspired by you and your courage!!! YOU GO, GIRL!

[Anais]

Julia - I just read this thread, and wanted to wish you all the best. I saw people talking about the Gerson clinic. I just watched a documentary about him the other day, "The Beautiful Truth." It is on demand on netflix.com, and it is so worth the 90 minutes. What an amazing film! I was blown away, and after reading your story, I think you should watch it if you haven't done so yet.

Anais

[terry brown]

Anais!
I came here this morning to post the same thing!
I just watched The Beautiful Truth on Thanksgiving day and thought of Julia, wondering if she had seen it.
Julia, you have probably seen it, but if you haven't I think you would really enjoy it.

[lunabear]

This is one of the most inspiring things I've read in a very, very long time. Your story is truly remarkable. I would wish you luck but I know you don't need it, because your attitude and holistic approach are exactly what you need.

I hesitate to put my two cents in, but you did say you wanted to hear some advice, so here it is:

1. I agree with the person who advocated getting the lump surgically removed. For all you know it might be benign (though I doubt it), but I don't see how that in and of itself could hurt your progress.

2. I noticed that you'll still be eating cottage cheese. Why is this, might I ask? If it's for the protein I recommend sprouts instead. Sprouts are high in both protein and nutrients. Again, I hesitate to claim for certain, but I read the list of things you plan to do and it seems like the cheese might interfere with the rest of your plan -- dairy is so hard to digest and (even organic!) contains hormones that can disrupt the endocrine system. I'm not a doctor, but one did once recommend to me when I was almost diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome to avoid dairy like the plague, because it makes it worse.

Anyway, I am so happy for you, oddly enough. I have met 2 cancer survivors, one with colon cancer and one with breast cancer (both female) who went raw, saved their lives, and came out stronger than ever. Congratulations on following your heart and healing your body. :)

EDIT: I posted all of that after just reading your initial post -- looks like I arrived late in the game, hah. I am so pleased that it reverted to a less-scary form, and I have no doubt that your holistic approach has a lot to do with it. Keep up the good work, and God bless you!

[snoops]

There are some groups that say that eating flax oil with cottage cheese allows it to be taken right to the cell effectively. Something about the cottage cheese. So yes dairy is not good but perhaps in this instance there is something there.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you, everyone... I'm humbled to hear that I've inspired anyone, when I've been inspired by SO many, including the amazing Diana H. (Alissa's friend that she wrote about here recently... Diana is an angel!).


There are some groups that say that eating flax oil with cottage cheese allows it to be taken right to the cell effectively. Something about the cottage cheese. So yes dairy is not good but perhaps in this instance there is something there.
Thank you, snoops -- yes, it's something about how the flax oil binds with the specific fats in cottage cheese that transform it into a potent cancer fighter. There have been some raw vegan alternatives (http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/budwig-diet-vegan-alternatives.html) with similar fats... I need to look more closely into them because I know even a small amount of organic dairy can't be good for us.

Just an update... I had surgery on Wednesday... thanks to a fantastic surgeon, I was home the same day and have felt pretty good ever since! Haven't had to take pain meds and started exercising again (just walking for now) on Saturday.

I'm meeting with the doctor next week and will find out more from the pathology report (which still isn't in yet). I'm sure he'll try to pressure me into doing radiation and estrogen-suppressing drugs, but I am 100% resolved NOT to do that. Eating raw and living an anti-cancer lifestyle will do way more for balancing my hormones than killing off all estrogen, going into early menopause, and having horrible side effects (including a raised risk for other types of cancer!!).

Thank you for The Beautiful Truth recommendation... I am going to watch it this afternoon, courtesy of Netflix!!

Anyway, I am so happy for you, oddly enough. I have met 2 cancer survivors, one with colon cancer and one with breast cancer (both female) who went raw, saved their lives, and came out stronger than ever. Congratulations on following your heart and healing your body.
Thank you!! I am ABSOLUTELY still so thankful for this diagnosis. I know I could never have gotten back on track without it. If I'm blessed to be able to have a living baby, I will be even more grateful for it!!

[Moretta]

Sounds like you are in good hands and glad to hear your surgery was successful. {{{{{{Rawness Hugs}}}}}

[snoops]

Yaaa - the cancer is gone and now you can focus on eating to keep it gone. You must feel so relieved.

[michigan roman]

cleansing

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/stone_trip/8%20South%20Orkneys/P2140105.jpg

[michigan roman]

was just at local herb store , started talking raw food diet

and was informed of a local women clearing cancer
going raw and dark green juicing right here in my neighboorhood

i guess she lost a ton o weight ands looking great too :cool:

[walnutty]

Julia,

How are you doing?

I haven't been on this forum for a long time. I started reading old posts and came across yours. I just read all 8 pages. Your story ended so abruptly and I was wondering how you are doing?

~walnutty~

[michigan roman]

yuuuuu huuuuuuuuu :eek::D mrs jg were missing you :)

[anneh]

I agree with this post 100%. I have a friend who was dx with breast cancer, had the lump removed and found no lymph nodes were cancerous and then refused their meds and went onto raw foods. Last time I heard from her she was 12 years in remission. Btw, you may not want to hear this but my 87yo husband had non hodgkins cancer over 30 years ago and did get chemo/radiation. He is alive and well and in perfect health to tell the story, without treatment he would have died. Depends on what the outcome of the surgery is and then you can decide :) I am so sorry to hear of your losses, I had a miscarriage over 40 years ago and still mourn the loss. God bless you. anneh
Here comes the other side... How 'bout a compromise?? Why not have the lump removed, lumpectomy or mastectomy, (trust the doctor on this) and then continue with your strong, healthy lifestyle? Time is of the essence, believe me. Cancer is an aggressive, vicious disease, take it from a former chemo nurse AND cancer survivor... Please at least do yourself a favor and go for a surgical cure.

[Gossy]

This thread was so amazingly inspiring to me.

MrsJG - Please drop by with an update when/if you can. And I'm sending so many positive thoughts your way about everything! And truly, this thread has really reinforced my decision to go raw.

Thank you for sharing your journey here!

[TheNewLucilleBall]

Perhaps do more research on apple seeds?

http://surfingthetao.vox.com/library/post/eat-your-apple-seeds.html

[Omnivore]

I wish you all the best. You can beat this.

Have a look at http://cancertutor.com/

It's the best website I've come across for alternative cancer treatments.

[Raw Angel Mom]

Julia, i continue to pray for you. I know without a doubt that you are perfectly healthy now. Don't forget to make time to laught everyday. Watch something funny or do something funny. LAUGHTER is so key.

You are doing a fantastic job and bravo for standing your ground. I AM holding the vision that you are staying at this Hippocrate center as much as you want and you are happy always and expecting this little baby.

You are loved and supported always!

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Does anyone know how MrsJohnnyG is doing?

[michigan roman]

hoping your perfectly healthy mrs jg :)