Forum Crashing

[VeGenesis]

Dear RFT,

I've noticed that every day for the last few days, around 8 AM Philippine time (0:00 GMT), the RFT forum crashes. Ping and TraceRoute test end in server timeouts withing the network of Wiredtree.com.

Most of the time this outage was 2-3 hours, but yesterday RFT was down all day (Philippine Time). I am not sure if you are aware this is happening.

I noticed that Wiredtree boast 100% network up time - like most inexperienced and overrated hosts. This is, in fact, impossible. I am just wondering if daily outages during Philippine daylight hours is expected to continue? It is very frustrating to be in the middle of posting a carefully thought out reply and have the server fail for the remaining part of the day.

I believe strongly in the message of RFT. Enough to offer my help and services pro bono to solve the outage and down time issues.

Having 37 years experience with computers, servers and the Internet. This includes helping invent the micro computer package, as well as design work on ARPANET (pre-Internet) and the Internet, and having published admin help (still on the internet, still being used) as early as the mid 1990's, Currently I am administering hundreds of servers and domains, including the Internet Network Time Standard servers for the country of the Philippines (previously I taught server construction and administration at a number of universities in the USA and Philippines) - so I do have some knowledge of these matters.

This is only the third time I have ever offered pro bono services (the other two have to do with my faith and with my high school alumni association). This is because I believe in the message RFT is delivering.

If you need server admin help to keep the RFT site running, I offer my help.

Personally, I would suggest a move from Wiredtree, where the failure tests are located, to either http://www.slicehost.com/ or to a VPS at Pair Network. I am NOT affiliated with either of these companies, other than as a client. With 14 years at pair, I have experienced only 10 minutes of non scheduled down time. So far at Slice Host I have experienced no down time. Another higher traffic project, JFusion, runs exceedingly well on a 512 Slice at Slice Host.

For your consideration,

Lan

[snoops]

I think they were down here too from last night till sometime today. I believe they were doing an upgrade but I'm sure they would appreciate your offer of help. I know I hate it when it goes down. I have raw food withdrawal!!

[crkdjwlr]

it was down here too in Bracebridge, Ontario. Canada.

Take care, Paul LeMay

[Aleesha Sattva]

Yes, the forum was down, on purpose. We were doing some changes.

Thank you for your offer and concern.

[michigan roman]

lee i think the edit post option is on the blink since last nights tune up ,
or maybe its my browser as im told my old ie version is lame and i should switch to firefox

[michigan roman]

never mind it just reappeared :D

[Dimond]

I haven't had any edit buttons on any of my posts today. michigan roman, how'd you get yours to appear?

Actually there's seems to be a time limit now to edits. Need to be able to edit any time.

[michigan roman]

I haven't had any edit buttons on any of my posts today. michigan roman, how'd you get yours to appear?

Actually there's seems to be a time limit now to edits. Need to be able to edit any time.

your right my edit buttons just disappeared

and your right again about needing to be able to edit anytime ,
its stupid to not have that so one can come back to old post if changing mind on a topic and restate there newly arrived at opinion / stand

[Aleesha Sattva]

The decision to remove the edit button was due to many complaints from members about people coming back and removing their entire posts and the thread no longer making sense.

So a 10 minute edit has been placed on the forum.

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=54316

[michigan roman]

aleesha just throwing this thought out there with all respect is ide say that very rarely happens and that its more important for people to be able to edit there past posts at any time

and maybe a feature could be added where when a post is deleted a red flag alert appears in thread informing people a post was deleted which may be the cause of the thread no longer making sense

in closing i say that ide bet if it were put to vote that like %99 of the forum members would say keep the edit buttons constantly on . and that dear lee i think is a good idea = put it to vote :)

[Revvell]

put it to vote :)

Uhhh, somehow you got that this here is a democracy? ;) :eek:

[VeGenesis]

Yes, the forum was down, on purpose. We were doing some changes.

Thank you for your offer and concern.

Ah, Ok. It was down again just a few minutes before I posted this.

I have converted all of our other forums to SMF. The Simple Machines Forum. It allows a number of features like like moderator approval of changes and an archive and restore feature for deleted posts (sort of a recycle bin function).

SMF also does updates in minutes and when you are down posts a notice to anyone who tries to access the forum that the forum is offline for maintenance. I do not know if vBulletin has those features or not.

10 mins edit does seem a little short time to me too. Might I suggest you lengthen it a little? I too have run into the behavior you are talking about on non SMF forums. We discovered that most of the people doing this usually did it a week or at least a day or two later. We set the edit time to between 1 hour and one day and that stopped the problems on those boards.

10 mins may not afford a slow reader time to read his just posted post before the edit time runs out.

That is just a suggestion based on experience, the problem as described, and the type of board this is.

However, on the flip side, I post on some very active highly technical forums that, for matters of security, allow no editing at all!

Besides the message that the forum is offline to be upgraded, and what time we expect to be finished... we also have a thread that is locked to the admin only, where we post, in advance, when an update will take place.

Nonetheless, to the people behind the RFT forum, I appreciate the forum, it has been a great help to me.

[andra]

I also experienced a period where I could not log on. I am glad this site is ok and that it was for planned maintenance :)

andra

[Dararaw36]

Uhhh, somehow you got that this here is a democracy? ;) :eek:
:D

Revvell, you are too funny. hahahaha

[Aleesha Sattva]

Thank you all for your comments. A copy of this thread has been sent to Admin.

in light,
Aleesha
Moderator