Strange Sense of Smell, Do You Have Them?

[VeGenesis]

I am really trying to live on raw live foods - not even dehydrated.

This is going to sound crazy to some, but I am experiencing some strange sense of smell reactions that I don't understand and I would like to know if anyone else has this, or if I am actually going crazy!

My awareness began as I passed a roasted chicken stand in our market place. The smell of those chickens roasting, to say the least, repulsed me. Actually I had the exact same reaction as suddenly coming upon a dead dog in the road who is being eaten by maggots. The smell was terrible. I started to choke and gag at the smell of roasting chickens. I began to vomit in the back of my mouth and I am sure that if I had not ran away, I would have vomited all over the floor.

My wife, whom I trust 100%, told me I first started turning white and then a pale green just before I ran away. Then she told me something I didn't expect. She told me she was not surprised because since I started being strict with what I eat. I could also smell fear and smell when someone is lying!

She pointed out four times in the last week that I told someone they were lying to me in a business deal and they admitted it! (Sounds Crazy to me to be able to smell a lie!) She also reminded me of two times when I comforted someone because they were afraid and no one else noticed - these were strangers!

Now, I know Filipinos as a whole are more superstitious than us Americans. But this goes way beyond that! I also know that my mother told me dogs could smell fear, and could smell lies of action. Is it possible people can do this also, if their senses are not plugged up with dead food?

I know this sounds like crazy hocus pocus or something like that. Maybe people will think badly of me for just asking. But I really need to know.

Does anyone else have these strange reactions to things they smell?

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[rawrawks]

Yes, but to a lesser degree. Smell always triggers reactions as they have emotional connections. Meat and cooked food are biggies. I have felt very sick smelling some foods.

I have a sense of feeling someones energy they project, not in a weird sort of way but just the feel for them. I dont smell it but it is instantaneous, my feel about the person, my intuition about them.

I dont smell someone lying because usually I see their nose growing longer first.

No harm in asking silly goose. Dont really matter what anyone thingks of you n e way.

[Veganforlife]

I noticed my sense of smell became so very heightened when I first went Raw...so yes, I totally understand. As far as smelling someone lying? I totally believe that too. I think when people lie their bodies produce shoot! what's the word pheraromes? or something like that...? dern can't think of that word..but their bodies produce a scent and since yours is becoming pure...yes I truly believe that is possible.

[rawrawks]

hahahha their bodies produce shoot? hahahahahaha thought you mispelled that one....then I read on..hahahaha

[Aleesha Sattva]

i thought the same rawrawks... made me giggle as well.

i totally relate to you lan. totally. i have always had a very strong sense of smell but now... oh man do i smell stuff. if our snakes poop (they live in the other end of the house from the living room) i can smell it. no one else can, but i can. when the critter enclosures need to be cleaned... i know it.

as for foods... some smells i enjoy, others not so much. some make me gag.

i've never smelled fear or lie... but i totally believe you could. i'm in deep respect of the fact that you are so open and connected that you are smelling it. *namaste'*

[VeGenesis]

pheraromes?

Because I'm really serious about this Veganforlife, I tried to look that up on the Internet. I got to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone and think maybe you meant Pheromone?

After reading the wiki (which says nothing about people on raw vegan diets) I am seriously more convinced that something in my nose has come alive to smells I have not had before. I have been raw vegan on and off for two years including a full year! The difference now is that I am eating sprouts for protein and lots of greens - the year I was pretty much protein deficient as largely being a Fruitarian (not recommended!).

The Pheromone wiki was interesting. Under others it says...

"Calming (appeasement) pheromones (mammals)"

I was thinking that is what someone who is lying does. They try to appease you into calmly accepting their lie.

It is very strange... but interesting that others are having some sense / smell changes also. Maybe I am not crazy, maybe just "a human lie detector!" Time to "meet the parents!" (a funny movie with a human lie detector!)

I do know one thing, when I added sprouts (mung and millet) to my food I had a massive amount of mucus drain from my nose for about 2 days. Then clear & easy breathing.

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[VeGenesis]

oh man do i smell stuff. if our snakes poop (they live in the other end of the house from the living room) i can smell it. no one else can, but i can. when the critter enclosures need to be cleaned... i know it.

as for foods... some smells i enjoy, others not so much. some make me gag.

i've never smelled fear or lie... but i totally believe you could. i'm in deep respect of the fact that you are so open and connected that you are smelling it. *namaste'*

Thanks Aleesha, you reminded me that I can smell our boys little bird from my air conditioned office on the second floor! Through two doors, up a flight of stairs and in a room with an outside air conditioner! They have to clean the cage daily!

So you know namaste! Living in the Philippines and having Indian (from India) and Indonesian friends I understand. Actually, I am just trying to find my path. I have a tiny amount of knowledge and more questions than wisdom. My friends often call me guru and I actually laugh about it, because I consider myself a simple disciple or student of truth. If we were together I would Añjali Mudrā for the gift of truth you gave about your snakes.

I especially love the smell of the farmers fruit market in the morning (3 am of the Sunday following a full moon). These are small farms and often the fruit was on the vine or tree at midnight and picked by the light of the moon between midnight and 1 am! It is so fresh the smell excites me and causes me a great amount of joy! As does eating my breakfast there, out of hand, with the farmers! It is a simple but magical moment that satisfies much more than the needs of your body.

[Veganforlife]

Do you use a neti pot? Talk about instant olfactory (?right word?) relief! Whoa!
I can also tell when my boss has eaten meat. He/his body has a stench to it.

[Aleesha Sattva]

If we were together I would Añjali Mudrā for the gift of truth you gave about your snakes.

What you must have sensed was me in that hand position as I said those words to you and then I typed them. I always bow as well.

I have the word namaste' tattooed on my inner lip... so that everything I speak is honouring not only myself, but also whoever I am speaking to or about.

[Aleesha Sattva]

I can also tell when my boss has eaten meat. He/his body has a stench to it.

My hubby gets the most disgusting smell to his breathe. Like spicy meat whenever he eats anything that is not raw. So glad it's not just me smelling this... thanks Lucy (((hugs)))

[Veganforlife]

It's not his breath but his pores. I can smell people's scalps too which isn't a good thing. But there are many good smells too more good than bad...thank Goddess!

[VeGenesis]

Aleesha & Veganforlife - I can sense when my honeybun eats a single chicken wing for a day or two later. Likewise with bread. According to her, if she eats bread I stop kissing her - not fun!

This is really a great thread!

Veganforlife - I've been looking for a neti pot for my wife for about a year. I don't think they are for sale in the Philippines. I finally rigged her up something with a china tea pot and a piece of plastic tube.

She also says it works better with RealSalt (Ancient Natural Sea Salt or "brown" salt) rather than the Philippine Sea Salt that is available here. According to Percy (that is a girl's name here) anything is better than refined table salt! Don't ever use salt substitute! She made that mistake once! It hurt for a few days.

But honestly, when she hit about 85% raw she stopped using it. She just didn't have any more problems.

Aleesha - To honor and respect others is a point at which one begins to honor and respect oneself also. I too have realized that words may have a healing power to them when projected in the best of ways. People will never agree totally, but if we honor each other we may traverse this life with a little more light for our path.

You may be right, I have often been known to sense others, even at great distances, and often without even a conscience thought of it. It started after I died and was brought back to life in September of 1983. It may explain why others think of me as guru without encouragement from me. I tend to respond to things people are feeling or planning without knowing it. I also seem to sense spiritual beings around some people, but just accept that as a normal station or phase in their life.

I do have some deep beliefs, as well as some limited faith. Yet I would not consider myself a religious man, but a seeker of truth. In fact I find the question "What is your religion?" anywhere from amusing or mildly annoying. Forced to answer I would have to say "I have none." Yet, I believe the intelligent code in DNA proves there is a God. All codes, according to accepted scientific knowledge, must be encoded and decoded from an intelligent source. A position that there is no God does not make any scientific sense! For me God is easy to see, sense and feel whenever I desire.

The intelligent DNA in Living Food (plants) is by design the perfect food for the intelligent DNA in the Living human body.

Nonetheless, even for someone that believed there is no God, the truth remains that Living Food produces Life and Dead food (which I consider poison) produces sickness or death!

Food is like ammunition to supply bullets to our body to fight disease or to provide bullets to our diseases to fight our body. We are consuming bullets!

When you honor and respect the relationship between our bodies and living food or dead "poison" (food or other poisons) then the truth remains apart from the belief. Honor the truth, honor each other will go a long way in making a better life, regardless of our belief system.

[Hina]

I've always had a "higher" sensitivity with my senses, not just smelling, but hearing and seeing too, I think its thanks to the fact that I've always avoided highly processed food in my short lifespan, and now raw foods are just sharpening them even more. I can pretty much tell if someone is lying too, which happens quite often, isn't it sad :rolleyes:.
But anyway, its a really interesting experience to have indeed.

[RawHealthyBeauty]

Hey, since your nose is very strong now... :)

There is a company called Young Living Essential Oils. Look it online.
Aromatherapy type of thing. These are the purest quality of oils around. No fake stuff in these oils.

I thought maybe it's something you may be interested in.

I have these and I love them!

[Aleesha Sattva]

Aleesha - To honor and respect others is a point at which one begins to honor and respect oneself also. I too have realized that words may have a healing power to them when projected in the best of ways. People will never agree totally, but if we honor each other we may traverse this life with a little more light for our path.

I couldn't agree more!

As for the neti pot: one of my yoga instructors uses a spoon instead of a neti pot. She has for over 40 years now. She mixes up her salt and water in a cup and then spoons it into her nose. Just a thought for ya. ;)

[rawrawks]

there is always a way to netti with no netti

I smell peoples scalp tooooo ugh.

People say I smell so good like nature or herbs or whatever. I know its because I eat how I do. No yukku pore ooze....hahaha

[VeGenesis]

Hey, since your nose is very strong now... :)

There is a company called Young Living Essential Oils. Look it online.
Aromatherapy type of thing. These are the purest quality of oils around. No fake stuff in these oils.



Oh yeah, my wife and I love oils. As well as candles that are made the right way. My friend makes the oils so I know exactly what is in them. We get the special grade candles from a coop here, run by former inmates who are building a new life. So we also know the content (like food grade wax). Plus I have the privilege of communing with these wonderful men who were formerly murders, etc. They even grow wheat grass as the major Cebu supplier!

We have a super hard bed, even a 500 pound man won't sink into it very far (personally tested!). Just bubble some oil, light a dozen candles and turn off everything else. Sit on the bed and commune with God for a while, morning and evening. It's great!

Between 2-5 am I flush my system with 5 quarts of water, it takes 90 minutes. We banned the alarm clock long ago, so sometimes we start at 2 or 3, whenever we wake up naturally. Then I start my day at 6 or so with a pint of Calamansi Juice followed at 8 by Kalamungay leaves smashed into a ripe banana or two. Later, mid morning, a fresh buko from the tree as a pick me up and wow, life is sweet!

I'm sorry, I don't know English names for this, except buko is young coconut water.

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[VeGenesis]

As for the neti pot: one of my yoga instructors uses a spoon instead of a neti pot. She has for over 40 years now.

She has a wisdom there. In my youth I was a gadget happy guy. Perhaps it was my association while helping to invent both micro computers and the Internet. I had a kitchen bigger than many people's houses - full of gadgets - to help me make my poison (non living food).

Today I have a knife (one only) and a blender and a few simple trays I use to grow sprouts. Do we need more? We are considering a new Vitamix, blenders do not live long around here. We are considering a dehydrator, but do we really want to add more clutter to the knife and blender in our kitchen (the sprouts are in the CR). Perhaps we will build one if we find a dehydrator plan made from common parts that my neighbor could also build.

Your yoga instructor's wisdom in not buying what is not needed is a real gem. Why buy a neti pot when you already own a piece of plastic hose or a spoon? Perhaps with the money saved on not buying more gadgets you could sponsor a newly released prisoner and his family into a life without crime, or open your doors to feed the poor, starving and dying street children who are everywhere. Perhaps you can share your knowledge of Living on Live Food with those burdened by illness and without the means to afford medicine. Our dream is to one day open a healing center, but in the mean while our tiny raw food library is a start to help others.

All around you, no matter what country you live in, there are people with great needs. Those with great wealth in this world are often the neediest of all. Our friends, our families, the street children we see daily begging from the cars on the superhighway - they all need what every person on this forum is blessed with - a little knowledge of how to have a better life.

Granted, perhaps the cost of a neti pot is not that great. But consider that just outside of my window some children will die today because they lacked 50 cents worth of food. If really gives perspective.

I hope this will inspire you to do some Act of Random Kindness for someone that does not deserve it in your part of the world today.

And thanks to your yoga instructor for the idea to use the spoon, I will add this to our healing library and I am sure it will give relief to a number of people for which a neti pot is beyond their ability to buy. (A plastic spoon can be had for free at the mercado.)

[Aleesha Sattva]

We are huuuuuuuuuuuuuge into random acts of kindness. Huuuuuuuuuge into them. So I hear you. For the last year and a bit every penny my magazine makes through affiliate programs and advertising... and pretty much all the money I make from my raw food coaching goes to a homeless raw family in the USA to assist them to have raw live food.

So ya... I'm in!!!

Anyone else?

[VeGenesis]

We are huuuuuuuuuuuuuge into random acts of kindness. Huuuuuuuuuge into them. So I hear you. For the last year and a bit every penny my magazine makes through affiliate programs and advertising... and pretty much all the money I make from my raw food coaching goes to a homeless raw family in the USA to assist them to have raw live food.

So ya... I'm in!!!

Anyone else?
Aleesha - namaste'

My Honeybun and I live on my rather small pension. However, we run three rather large, successful and time consuming businesses! Every gram of profit we earn (and part of our pension as well) is given to others, our neighbors here in the Philippines. If everyone did something there would be far less suffering in the world.

My friend Jef, who is of the non-organized or home bible fellowship faith, says he remembers to do some Act of Random Kindness daily as a lifeboat or ARK (Acts of Random Kindness) for others.

Jef is about 40. He, his wife and their three sons including two teenagers, live in a tiny home they build for $200 - two months wages. This year we were able to help them get an electric light bulb in their home. He carries water from a public well a mile away for their daily needs. This is the same man who believes in doing daily Acts of Random Kindness for people less fortunate than his family.

I do hope others will be inspired to just look around, see a need and fulfill it. No matter how large or small it is you will receive much more that anything it cost you.

Will anyone else join Aleesha, Jef, Percy and I in changing the world in a personal way and making this a better planet to live on?

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[Aleesha Sattva]

I just want to chime in once more Lan... I hear on this. The family we support... do heaps of random acts themselves. When they were in a state which allowed this... they stood on Fridays and held a sign "Please help feed our homeless familes"... when they got to $150 they went into the market they were standing outside of and buy food. Then they took it to the place where many familes were. Now they themselves were homeless and often without food... but they still gifted it all away because they weren't collecting this money for themselves... it was their way of doing their own random acts while allowing others to do some as well.

I looooooooooooooooooove this story. It always makes me smile!

This has been a lovely conversation. Thank you Lan.

[Tirza]

I knew someone from the Far East who told me that people who don't use dairy products can smell those who do. Imagine the smell of a cow if you can. I have been around them quite a bit, and I can tell you, I don't care for it. Yes, there are people who revel in the smell (maybe because it "smells of money" for them) but most people don't like that sweaty-uriney-manurey smell that cows give off. That is how those who eat dairy give off to those who are not used to it. YUK.

As for the neti pot, I have one and have used it with success when needed. Before I used to just take cold pills :eek: Now I have stopped. The neti pot clears out the nose, sinuses and throat especially with the disinfectant action of the sea salt in the water. However, the last time I used it, I got distracted after I had mixed it up and the water cooled. I decided to use it anyway, and boy oh boy, could I feel a cold feeling going right into my sinuses and sort of into my ears. It was quite horrible. I have had ear infections a couple of times since and now I am almost afraid to use the neti pot again.

[rawrawks]

Ohhh dont be afraid....it was prob a shock to your sinus. Warm is always good for them.

I LOVE practicing random acts of kindness. When one gives, their immune system is activated. Not only is theirs but the receivers immune as well. Also anyone who might observe or be aware of the gift also benefits immunely(? haha) soooooooooo its good alll round. Pay it forward. Give and it is the best feeling in the world.

Yes I am IN too....will be seeking more ways to practice random kindness .
Hmmmm maybe give away my netti? I got lots of spoons to use.

Oh and heres a fave place of mine http://www.actsofkindness.org/

[VeGenesis]

I knew someone from the Far East who told me that people who don't use dairy products can smell those who do. Imagine the smell of a cow if you can. I have been around them quite a bit, and I can tell you, I don't care for it. Yes, there are people who revel in the smell (maybe because it "smells of money" for them) but most people don't like that sweaty-uriney-manurey smell that cows give off. That is how those who eat dairy give off to those who are not used to it. YUK.

Tirza, I know exactly what you mean! I call it the feedlot smell.

On the humor side, there was a time my wife came home from the market and I started checking her to see if she had accidentally stepped in some manure! We figured later that I was reacting to an ice cream cone she had eaten with a friend a few hours before!

On a flip side... a number of pour families here keep a cow and use them as an ox to pull a cart with produce to market. These cows become like part of the family. Their manure is a valuable asset to fertilize their crops. They eat the natural grass along the edges of the paths and many dirt roads. They are happy cows living in harmony with their humans. I have once seen a funeral for one of these cows. The cow was on the cart that it had pulled for many years, being pulled by humans. The cow was buried next to the other family members, and the family members cried and grieved the loss. This is NOT the usual case in cities, but it is also not unusual in the truly rural and jungle areas. When I see these cows with their families at the rural farmers markets, they smell sweet to me and I love to pet them while buying my produce. In fact, the cows smell better than some of the people there!

Pigs and Carabao (water buffalo?) are the same, confined they usually are a dirty smelly mess, but a pig is a very clean animal and a good pet (plus a pig in your yard will kill all Philippine Black Cobras for a quarter mile around your home - that is like the third most poisonous snake in the world! Many children - and adults too - die from cobra bites in their own yard.). Likewise a Carabao will plow your rice field (it has huge feet, good for work in the thick mud) and then pull your "Carabao Cart" to the market. I bought a pregnant carabao for my wife's parents the first Christmas we were married. The neighbors asked how they suddenly became rich! They soon had two carabaos! A financial problem 19 years before had forced them to sell their one carabao then, and even though this is vital to their farm, they had not been able to replace it. I spent about $180 on this "miracle!" These carabaos plow many neighbors fields also!

When we stop eating animals they become our friends. I think they know it too, because time after time I have heard people comment about how unusual it was that their animal took a liking to me. Maybe they can smell that I didn't eat their mother or brother or sister!

Many ancient books of wisdom speak of this. In India many feel the cows are sacred and watch over the humans. The Harivamsha depicts Krishna as a cowherd. He is often described as Bala Gopala, "the child who protects the cows." Another of Krishna's names, Govinda, means "one who brings satisfaction to the cows."

Most people reading the story of Noah and the flood miss the part where part of the curse is that animals will fear people, because people will start to eat their flesh along with the "green food" they had eaten before! People's lifespan also dropped from many hundreds of years to about 120 or less when they began to eat flesh, according to that story. It was still later that people started cooking!

The San people, or Bushmen, of the Kalahari desert, during a long drought (like 8 month) AFTER their tribe begins to die, will hunt animals to survive. When they kill one, the tribe will place their hands on the animal and apologize for killing it, and explain that they have no other food to stay alive and then they will thank the wild animal for giving its life to save their tribe. They will use every part of the animal and use their skin for clothing. Years later they will still pet the skin and tell of the time that the animal saved the tribe from starving to death. And when a wild animal kills and eats one of the tribe, they accept that members life helped the animal's tribe to survive while at the same time morn the loss of their own family member.

We who are "civilized" should consider such ancient wisdom. It is a fact that if we banned the use of meat for food, we would solve the problem of global warning! Feedlots and dairies contribute the majority element to greenhouse gases.

If we all ate raw vegan food, there would be so much food that we could easily feed all the people on earth! But many hospitals would close because they weren't needed!

Here are a couple personal examples that you can be grateful for today.

My late wife and I were having dinner with a visiting American. I mentioned to him that my wife came from a poor family. She cut into our conversation and said, "We aren't poor, we eat three times a day." We were speechless, it was clear that she knew many people that didn't. How do you define "poor?" I wonder of meat eaters ever consider the FACT that their choice is causing another human to go hungry?

In a local dialect of the gentle people in the mountains (volcano) on the island of Negros, here in the Philippines, there is a greeting that translates pretty much to "how are you today?" The replies you will get there are...

I ate today! (usually excited, happy, grateful, smiling)
I ate yesterday.
I ate the other day (day before yesterday).
I ate the other other day (three days ago).
I will eat again (hopefully?).

How many times would we use the common expressions of #3 and #4? Count your blessings!

On the same mountain, but much farther, there is a place where white people, like me, are almost unseen. You must travel far on winding dangerous mountain roads, then wade across a river that is impossible to pass, for days at a time, with even the slightest rain. Walk about 3-5 miles through the forest and you are there! The people say that most "kano" (Amerikano - but it applies to all foreigners of any nation) "smell bad like an animal". Many people there live simply by eating the raw fruits and vegetation that grows wild, while growing crops like bamboo they sell in the city below. I myself have thought that, if I get strong enough, I would like to visit there again (now that I am raw vegan) and see if I smelled human to them! I imagine most of the village would quickly come to smell a white kano that smelled like a human!

[VeGenesis]

As for the neti pot, I have one and have used it with success when needed. Before I used to just take cold pills :eek: Now I have stopped. The neti pot clears out the nose, sinuses and throat especially with the disinfectant action of the sea salt in the water. However, the last time I used it, I got distracted after I had mixed it up and the water cooled. I decided to use it anyway, and boy oh boy, could I feel a cold feeling going right into my sinuses and sort of into my ears. It was quite horrible. I have had ear infections a couple of times since and now I am almost afraid to use the neti pot again.

Tirza, I am sure the problem was that it cooled. Have you considered a neti spoon? I was thinking that a spoon may have a temperature advantage in that it would be easier to control. You might consider that some of our neighbors reports that proper use prevents ear infections (this is just what we have been told by poor neighbors who just now started using neti spoons.

After Aleesha posted about her yoga instructor, (thanks Aleesha) we passed the information (along with a spoon) to a truly poor neighbor who had such sinus pain they couldn't work. Here "no work" means "no food", just to get the proper prospective. As my Honeybun was explaining how to do this, I happen to walk in the room and hear her say "dili bugnao" (not cold). Not hearing the rest of the conversation, I asked what it was about. She said she was just explaining that it was important not to let the salt water cool. She has also had a problem with that.

The neighbor reported this "miracle" to many others, how it "cured" her in one day. She tells them to boil the water (good idea because water here is not always that pure), then mix in the salt after it cools a little but it is still very warm, then take a spoonful and wait till the spoon bottom is lukewarm. That is the right time to use it. Good instructions!

I doubt you could do this with the pot. People here are reporting that this treatment also helps clear ear infections naturally. I am not sure how spooning salt water through your nose would help your ears, but I am sure that the people who reported this are sincere. Right now is the cold and flu season here and many have ear infections. Salt (sea salt is really all that is common here) is available everywhere and cheap. Plastic spoons can be obtained, one at a time, for free!

[margoss]

I'm the same way. Meat repulses me, the smell of cilantro smells so good that I want to eat it as soon as I pick it up. I'm more sensitive to many things including others dispositions.