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Theobroma
10-17-2009, 10:21 AM
if sugar is the only thing cancer can grow from, does that mean it eats even the sugars in fruit? :eek:
Tsurugi_Oni
10-17-2009, 11:43 AM
I don't know where you've heard that from. Cancer is just cells that keep on replicating without stop or purpose.
Aleesha Sattva
10-17-2009, 11:44 AM
cancer grows in an acid body... eat raw and you are no longer acidic.
seems simple to me :)
Raw Angel Mom
10-17-2009, 12:45 PM
I read the China Study and according to research, cancer is activated with animal protein if you have it in you. This is like watering a seed in the ground. It won't grow, unless there is water. Cancer do well in a acidic body and lacking of oxygen. If you eat process sugar, it will lead to an acidic body. Make sure you get your vitamin D and anti oxidan
Eat your fruits if your body does well with them.
Fruit, vegetable and greens has powerful anti-oxidant to neutralize toxin.
I am not a medical doctor please do your research
RawSar
10-17-2009, 01:03 PM
My boyfriend's dad passed away this year from cancer that he has been fighting with for 2-3 years. When he was first told that it was cancer the whole family took a trip to Hippocrates. The only fruit he was allowed to have there were berries. I cant remember what they were told but something along the lines of the sugar (and yes even natural from fruit sugar) can feed the cancer.
SevenKindsOfCookie
10-17-2009, 01:12 PM
Yeah, cancer feed off sugar. Cancer cells have many times the insuline receptors than normal cells.
So if you have developed tumors already, I would recommend staying away from fruits altogether. But with a healthy body I wouldn't worry too much.
Though I don't think that a high sugar diet like 80/10/10 is healthy unless you are very physically active, but that's a different discussion.
Theobroma
10-17-2009, 01:46 PM
I'm lucky enough that I do not have it (knock on wood).
But I was having a discussion with my teacher. Good friend of his is suffering from bowel cancer and I guess for some stupid reason the hospitals nutrition layout they gave him has a lot of refined crap in it.
He was upset that they weren't providing him with proper info and we began to discuss how cancer does in fact feed off of sugar. It just got me thinking about sugar in general when it comes to raw food.
I did ask him if he new about raw food living and he did indeed know plenty. Although I don't think hes a raw foodie he knows plenty about it. I lent him one of my raw food books with raw food recipes to help with his friend. They are going to take down info and recipes and help conjure up a new plan for his friend. I guess he also knows people who have stopped their cancer growth with raw food diet. :)
Although I am sure I have nothing personally to worry about, I do worry anyway about getting it. I do now that I think about it eat fair amount of sugars when it comes to fruits and smoothies etc. which is what made me ask.
I exercise a lot though. When I'm not doing resistance training I'm jogging at least 5k aka 3m a day and also swimming for 30min to an hour all in the same day and when I wasn't getting enough carbs I was burning out so I started eating more and more fruit and smoothies.
So I was wondering if I'm putting myself at risk...? I am also aware of the good preventative things fruit has to offer, thus I am unsure what to hypothesizes!!! :p
brendasue
10-17-2009, 03:11 PM
I wish that information of this type would be better researched and not stated as truth. This is where we get ourselves in trouble. Some people will believe everything you say without taking the time to check sources or studies.
It has been known since the 1950’s that the chosen energy source of cancer cells is carbohydrates, wish is not to say if they are not available the cancer cells won’t devour any energy source they can, because they will.
When we think of cancer cells we have to consider “oxygen”. We breath in oxygen and give off carbon dioxide. Plants (all plants, even fruits) breath carbon dioxide and give off oxygen. Plants are devoid of any oxygen in their cells. . Oxygen is a plant waste product that they discard. In other words, cancer cells are plant cells that live within an animal. But why do they start to change, what’s the trigger?
When we think of carbohydrates do we think of only sugar? I don’t. Cancer has increased in this county 100 fold since the invention of processed foods. The SAD is so high in processed carbohydrates that our bodies are cancer factories.
I for one will not worry about consuming organic whole fruits. Humans have been eating them since the beginning of time. I think we should be concentrating on getting the processed poison out of our bodies. That’s the real enemy.
Of course this is merely my own opinion and everyone should study and come to their own conclusions
Aleesha Sattva
10-17-2009, 03:19 PM
Though I don't think that a high sugar diet like 80/10/10 is healthy unless you are very physically active, but that's a different discussion.
Not on this board it isn't. We don't discuss other philosophies of raw food eating here.
I think we should be concentrating on getting the processed poison out of our bodies. That’s the real enemy.
Of course this is merely my own opinion and everyone should study and come to their own conclusions
very good points!!!
Humanist
10-17-2009, 03:40 PM
My boyfriend's dad passed away this year from cancer that he has been fighting with for 2-3 years. When he was first told that it was cancer the whole family took a trip to Hippocrates. The only fruit he was allowed to have there were berries.
This is curious because the Gerson cancer therapy allows most fruits, but disallows berries. Dr. Michael Lam said that anti-oxidants in small doses feed cancer cells, but in megadoses, harm them. Dr. Josef Issels said that there are two kinds of carbohydrates: those fermentable by the cancer cell and thus cancer-promoting, and those non-fermentable and thus non-cancer-promoting. "Fruit sugar is non-fermentable."
Clearly the experts disagree. I prefer to follow Dr. Emmet Densmore, who said that we are frugivores and fruit is our natural food. As such, it cannot be harmful.
Humanist
10-17-2009, 03:46 PM
if sugar is the only thing cancer can grow from, does that mean it eats even the sugars in fruit? :eek:
The Gerson program says that proteins and fats cause cancers to grow.
SevenKindsOfCookie
10-17-2009, 04:58 PM
Not on this board it isn't. We don't discuss other philosophies of raw food eating here.
:rolleyes:
It's not a philosophy, it's a macro nutrient ratio.
Aleesha Sattva
10-17-2009, 05:51 PM
regardless we do not discuss it. :p
SevenKindsOfCookie
10-17-2009, 08:49 PM
regardless we do not discuss it. :p
I'm sorry, but since Alissa promotes freedom of choice she also promotes the choice of a high sugar diet. And I think it might be appropriate to warn about the dangers of such a diet in a discussion about cancer.
I realize that I shouldn't have called it by the other "gurus" trademark though. Sorry about that.
Humanist
10-17-2009, 08:50 PM
appears that there are a million trains of thought.
Right. And a million carcinogens.
Aleesha Sattva
10-17-2009, 10:22 PM
I'm sorry, but since Alissa promotes freedom of choice she also promotes the choice of a high sugar diet. And I think it might be appropriate to warn about the dangers of such a diet in a discussion about cancer.
I realize that I shouldn't have called it by the other "gurus" trademark though. Sorry about that.
it was the trademark i was referring to, not the high sugar diet.
RawSar
10-18-2009, 12:56 AM
Theobroma sounds like you don't have to fear fruit. With the amount of exercise you do fruit will keep you going!
I've wondered about this as well and for myself, I have no serious health concerns, but have quite a few family members that have and had cancer I want to do what I can to prevent it. So knowing what types they have and had I'm a step ahead and can focus on preventing those particular types of cancer.
I'm not exercising as much as I would like right now so I'm keeping my fruit intake pretty low (only a small amount in the AMs)
When I work out lots I do love eating a little more fruit and feels it does good for my body during those times.
Theobroma
10-18-2009, 03:43 PM
so does this mean I should not have asked such questions or what?
Theobroma
10-18-2009, 03:48 PM
Theobroma sounds like you don't have to fear fruit. With the amount of exercise you do fruit will keep you going!
I've wondered about this as well and for myself, I have no serious health concerns, but have quite a few family members that have and had cancer I want to do what I can to prevent it. So knowing what types they have and had I'm a step ahead and can focus on preventing those particular types of cancer.
I'm not exercising as much as I would like right now so I'm keeping my fruit intake pretty low (only a small amount in the AMs)
When I work out lots I do love eating a little more fruit and feels it does good for my body during those times.
Thank you for your kind words. I don't know why I'm so paranoid of getting it. I hate to see people suffer and I dont want to even think about myself getting it. This is just one of the many reasons I love eating healthy! It helps make me feel like I have some control.
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