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brendasue
10-03-2009, 02:25 PM
I have a good friend who is recovering from lung cancer surgery. The surgery went well and they seem to think they got it all. He doesn’t have to have any treatments. He had a terrible reaction from morphine in the hospital and recovery as been so slow. He is weak and still losing weight.

I told him about raw food and green smoothies and he is willing to give it a try. I am so new to this so I want to make a real impression right away. I also want to give him the important facts and keep it simple so he isn’t overwhelmed. If any of you have ideas I would appreciate it. I know this will help him.

Thank you ;

Belle

Revvell
10-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Give him a copy of Alissa's book and dvd's ~ then either make or show him how to make smoozies (green smoothies). Daily smoozies will change his life and health.

Veganforlife
10-03-2009, 03:18 PM
Give him a copy of Alissa's book and dvd's ~ then either make or show him how to make smoozies (green smoothies). Daily smoozies will change his life and health.

Oh I so agree. While waiting for her book to come get him eating fresh whatevers too. salads with avocados in 'em. Fruit salads (NOT CANNED) with sunflower seeds. Water too. make sure he's consuming water...

margoss
10-03-2009, 04:28 PM
If you have a dehydrator, he may like some warm soups too. He may want more soft/liquid vs solid at this time. So nice of you to help & it's great he's interested.

rawrawks
10-03-2009, 04:53 PM
OHHHH Yes...a blender full (or more) of green smoothie a day will make a huge difference.

brendasue
10-03-2009, 05:17 PM
Thanks everyone!

I will go to Barns and Noble and see if they have the book, if not I will order one. Until then I will at least get him started on smoothies.

B

VeGenesis
10-15-2009, 05:39 AM
I would look into B-17 and also B-15 and Vitamin-C

Stay green and lower carb foods. For example watch the intake of bananas and potatoes. Really GREEN!

rawrawks
10-15-2009, 06:58 AM
Cilantro and basil pesto are chelation foods, removing toxins and heavy metals from the system....that might help. Raw food is our medicine.

Suz58
10-16-2009, 12:06 PM
Have a look at Cris Karrs site Crazy Sexy Cancer, you can google it. She is living with incurable cancer and on a raw food diet.

laura-jane
10-16-2009, 08:38 PM
In my experience so far it can be difficult to bring others into the raw food lifestyle even though we want them to be raw because we know how much their lives could improve. I've stopped rawvangelicalizing (I think I made that word up!) and now try not to talk about being raw unless I'm asked or it comes up unavoidably.

Good for your for encouraging and helping your friend, who sounds very receptive to the raw food lifestyle, which is a good thing!

I would suggest that he start very simply with green smoothies and salads and other items that are very easy to prepare and not unfamiliar. Once he gets bored of salads he can proceed on to more complex items.

I find the book, "Raw Family" is a good, easy to read introduction to raw foods. I keep it in my spare bedroom and guests read it very quickly. Here's a link to the book, and I've written a review (http://therawtarian.com/raw-family-a-true-story-of-awakening-raw-book-review/) of sorts about it.

Good luck and keep us posted on his progress.

michigan roman
10-16-2009, 08:45 PM
heres a great thread of info / links , he'd be smart to spend many a night
reading it all over :

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=10632&highlight=cancer+calling+angels

VeGenesis
10-17-2009, 04:06 AM
I'm with laura-jane about preaching at people. They (we) only hear what we choose. Someone really sick may want to hear, or they may not.

Healthy people usually do not want to hear anything that makes them feel bad, so if your conversation is... this is what I am doing now and how I lost 200 pounds, reversed my diabetes, cured my heart disease and solved my blood pressure, well that is ok. They can be happy for your success!

But as soon as you cross into the dead zone of "you should" or "you can" or basically anything that starts or sounds like the word you - you're dead!

Let people be happy for your success and some of them will ask you how they can do it too. I printed up some cards with a few good websites they can get more information on. and I offer to be their friend...

Then wait for them to ask more help. No one likes to be pushed but if you lead, some will follow!

brendasue
10-17-2009, 05:32 AM
I am very sorry to say that my friend is not doing well. His care givers will not hear about eating for health or a "raw food" plan. I have sent much info and tried to steer them to places dealing with serious disease and diet. They have decided on more chemo and I can tell it's not what he wants. It's so very frustrating. Taking chemo to control pain seems so "wrong". He just get's weaker and weaker.

Thank you all for your input. I appreciate the effort. But in the end it is everyone’s own decision. ( sigh)

BrendaSue

VeGenesis
10-17-2009, 09:22 PM
But in the end it is everyone’s own decision. ( sigh)

BrendaSue

BrendaSue, I honestly feel your pain. In fact I think this is the hardest thing to accept about Living on Live Food.

I come from a family where diabetes, heart disease, obesity, celiac, gout, cancer, very high blood pressure and kidney failure rule and have taking the life of all my relatives before me, except my father - who died as a result of an car accident. In a large family I am the only person that does not suffer from this (now), and the only male of my generation who still has ten toes (the others lost parts of their feet or legs to "infections").

I am both the tallest, and now that I have lost 200 pounds, at 310 pounds, the male with the lowest BMI in my family!

I am also the only one who Eats Living Food.

You would think someone would notice. Especially because I told them all what I was doing. The results? Two people in my generation will not even talk to me!

On the other hand, I am helping a whole group of people get healthy in the Philippines. I pass on all information I get - for FREE! (or often at my expense!)

Books are hard to get here in the Philippines. Alissa's book and DVD would cost more than a month's wages for the average worker. (Good that Raw Food is actually cheap!) Many doctors earn less than US$400 a month here on the province (massive amounts of doctors are now retraining to be nurses to go work as nurses in the USA to earn a lot more for their families!)

To show you what I mean, a painless (with shots) tooth extraction cost about US$1.75 (If you need any major dental work, come to the Philippines for a vacation! I know a California trained dentist that speaks perfect English, who repaired my whole mouth (including a couple of beautiful crowns and a massive amount of fillings) for only $350! Take a vacation and get all your teeth fixed for less than a stateside dental bill!)

The point is that raw food books are out of the reach of most people here.

So I have started a "raw food library" that now has one volume in it (sadly I do not YET have Alissa's book), plus a few raw food ebook downloads.

If anyone would like to contribute a book or DVD - I can assure you that doctors and nurses and others are coming here to read them, and use the Internet in our liberty (the Internet in the library can only access raw food websites like rawfoodtalk.com - it is restricted to only domains we approve).

We do not lend any materials (we just do not have enough!). As far as we know we are the ONLY place people (including doctors) can go in the Philippines and learn about raw living food for free, for 90 million Filipinos!

We will even feed people who are here more than 4 hours studying (mango pudding and banana ice cream are favorites!), and invite them to our raw food social sessions, where they can ask free advice!

I was "dead", in bed for six months, when Living Food handed me my life back. I have a tee shirt that says "Rawfoodoholic!" To say the least, I am a raw food fanatic! I exchanged my pharmacy for the "Farm-I-See!" (Quote me on this!) And saved money doing it! (Anyone price a heart bypass lately? - I bypassed the bypass!)

But in all this BrendaSue, I cannot help my own family because they refuse to listen to the truth.

I know exactly how you are feeling and I feel your pain.

.

rawrawks
10-17-2009, 09:29 PM
Really it is all about live and let live. Unfort it is also live an dlet die too. Sad truth.

Best to you. i too have watched a friend die. I would make him raw stuff and he would welcome it. Then he would ask me to go to the store for him and get him a six pack of white flour bagels. Gotta just let em be and not try to save them. It often ends in disappointment.

brendasue
10-17-2009, 10:14 PM
WOW! What great work your trying to do!

When ever I hear how difficult it is in other parts of the world I realize how lucky we are. If we want to do something bad enough, most of us can find a way.

These people have the resources (living food) but not the knowledge. Your providing that service.

I keep sending things to my friend and took him a banana cream pie today (raw of course). He loved it! I left the recipe with his care giver so they can make it for him again. Planted seeds may grow. :)

Keep up your work! It's important.

BrendaSue

VeGenesis
10-18-2009, 12:12 AM
Very true BrendaSue!

Even me on my tiny SSA I feel blessed when I simply look out the window at my neighbors. It is not so simple here either. For example, I am trying to find a creamy salad dressing that doesn't need costly imported ingredients like nuts or a dehydrator, or sprouts (other than mung, millet and canary seed).

Our social nights where we invite people to sample raw food are powerful influences. People start thinking they can eat this way and get well!

Best advise, respect your friend and do not give up on him. Remember that this life we live will come to an end (no one gets out of life alive!). Regardless of what choices he makes or how long he lives, he is still your friend.

I would suggest you discuss alternatives with him, there are more than just raw food and chemo. A doctor here is giving cancer patients 250grams of Sodium Ascorbate via IV infusion and is having as good of results as are expected with IV chemo - but none of the bad side effects. Sodium Ascorbate is an alkaline form of Vitamin-C No one could swallow this much in an hour, but it easily goes directly into a vein in an IV. The doctor can make this from instructions and ingredients that are available on the internet.

Personally, if it was me, I would be getting the 250gram Vitamin-C IV's as often as possible (it makes you feel better I have been told by patients) plus eating raw food, plus drinking as much ozoned water as possible (cancer hates oxygen)!

Even if he pushes through with the chemo, the Sodium Ascorbate IV and raw food will help him greatly. Even help him recover from the chemo!

It is amazing to me how many people are making Youtubes saying here is me with stage four cancer and here is me after raw food or raw food and Vitamin-C. But I really do not see people making Youtubes that say here is me with cancer and her is me feeling great on chemo!

Also a number of people get the first chemo and realize they don't want any more... Then they are more open to the alternatives like a combo treatment of IV Sodium Ascorbate and raw food - which is proven to be at least effective as chemo, but makes you feel better instead of worse.

Most of all, love your friend. I am sure he is afraid. One thing I know about chemo is that family and friends usually desert you pretty fast. They are usually the same people who advised him to get the chemo. If they leave he may be left with just you suggesting that he tries IV Vitamin-C and raw food.

Where I am from we have a saying that the mighty oak tree grows from just one small acorn. That acorn pie you made may just sprout something big if you water it a little with love for your friend.

Love your friend - love is more powerful than even raw food!