Coconut Oil and Candida

[donnyandcathy]

If you are trying to do the Candida Diet, using low fat, with fruit.
Should I use Coconut Oil? I know that it is a good antifungal, and kills yeast??
Also, how much fat should I limit myself to per day?
Thanks
Cathy

[rawrawks]

Not sure about amount of fat a day but coconut oil is profound for candida !!!!

[iluvmangos]

In my experience, low-fat renders coconut oil unnecessary. The candida will still die without it. When trying to kill candida using low-fat, it's a good idea to not eat any overt fats for at least a good week or two. I went two weeks with no overts before I added them back in. I still go many days with no overts just because I don't want them. When I do have overts, I try to keep the fat to no more than 10% of my caloric intake. By overts I mean avocado, nuts, seeds, oils, durian, olives, anything with high fat content.

[donnyandcathy]

Thank you!!

I really wish there was a sure fire way to know what route to take.

I have done so much research, and so many say to cut out ANY and ALL sugars, including fruit.

But then there are the ones on here, and in the book 80-10-10, that says it's the fat that causes the problem.

I really need to do something, and do it now.
But I'm so torn on what to do.
I guess just pick one and see if it helps?
If I was to choose which one I wanted, it would be the no fats, and still be able to do the fruit. BUT, I want the one that will work, and not just because I want to give up my fruit.

I'm having a horrible flare up right now, I have not had a vaginal yeast infection in years, but I have one now.
I'm also having severe problems in my intestines, and gut.
No thrush in my mouth, and no skin problems (except my big toe has some itchy red bumps), just my gut and my womanly area.
I'm trying to figure if it's truly a yeast infection or if I have a bladder infection. I think I will treat it like it's a bladder infection, just in case, and then also treat my body for a yeast overgrowth.

Could someone tell me what they would do if this was them? What foods would you eat, and what herbs or supplements would you take? I can't mess around with this, with my gastroparesis, and my small bowel motility disorder, I could be in a huge mess.

So, should I try the fruit and low fat, or cut out the fruit?

I did a search, and read a bunch of the past post on this, but like I said there is so many different opinions :( But I want the opinion that will really work :D

Thank you!!
Cathy

[donnyandcathy]

Should I stay away from juicing with candida in my intestines, since it takes out the fiber, and the sugar count is higher?
I was thinking Beets, Carrots, Celery, Cucumber, and 1/2 an apple.
Or should I stick with green smoothies?
Thanks
Cathy

[iluvmangos]

Should I stay away from juicing with candida in my intestines, since it takes out the fiber, and the sugar count is higher?
I was thinking Beets, Carrots, Celery, Cucumber, and 1/2 an apple.
Or should I stick with green smoothies?
Thanks
Cathy

I, personally, would stick with green smoothies, but I don't think that juicing necessarily makes candida worse because I don't believe that sugar is the culprit in candida overgrowth. I still don't juice, though. Some people are into that, but I'm not. It makes sense to me that foods should be eaten as close to their natural state as possible and juice doesn't grow on trees and you don't find any juice rivers out in nature.

[donnyandcathy]

Sounds good, I will blend. :D

What about veggies that I can make into a pate, like carrots, celery, zucchini, beets, etc.. I can't have night shades, and garlic makes me sick. So the veggies I need to be the simple, non dangerous ones LOL :p

I need to make some things without nuts, and fats.
But with Gastroparesis it's really hard to digest veggies, unless I break them down by blending, or using the food processor. In fact fiber is my enemy believe it or not. When they did the test, my stomach doesn't move, so when fiber hits it, it stays there for a long time, it's really uncomfortable, and talk about bloating!!

Fruit doesn't seem to bother me, I think because of the moisture content, and I eat the ones without skin. I love melons, mangos, bananas, pineapple, and cherries (blended in my smoothies). I seem to do o.k. with berries as long as I blend them too.

But as for veggies, I'm not sure which ones to eat. They all seem to bother me. Even when I do green smoothies with spinach, kale, or chard, they bloat me and stay with me awhile. I thought about making some soups.
My doctor said the best way to digest the fiber in the veggies is to steam or cook them to help break it down. But then they wouldn't be raw, and I wouldn't get the enzymes I need from the veggie.

What's a girl to do??? :rolleyes:



Cathy

[katchmoleen]

I am not telling you what to do, but I will share my experience. I have had a fungal toenail, the big one on my left foot, for over 10 years. I had tried numerous soaks and herbal products to clear it up to no avail. I had pretty much given up on it and honestly don't think about it or look at it anymore. Just the other day I happened to take a look and noticed that the nail has grown in halfway! And the fungal part that is left is much thinner and looks like it is dying off. :D

I eat a moderate fruit (a couple of pieces a day, usually one banana per day in my smoothie) moderate nuts (usually a pate or some kinds of something at each meal, a few tablespons or so) and moderate fat. I add about a tablespoon per day of coconut oil to my smoothie. I REALLY started detoxing when I started adding the oil, so be forwarned!

I don't know if my toenail is permanently healed. I have had it start to heal before only to become totally infected overnight again. But this is the MOST it has healed in all these years, and fungal toenails are NOTORIOSLY difficult to heal.

[donnyandcathy]

katchmoleen,

I sent you an e-mail.
Thank you!!
Cathy

[rawrawks]

I know, and i spoke from experience, that coconut oil rawks out the rawtan candida. A spoonful a day in smoothies yes.

[GoodCat]

Hi Cathy,

My name is Cathy too :)

Both my son and I had to deal with Candida at the end of last year and going into this year. He had really bad stomach problems with fever. I had stomach problems, acne, and a bladder infection that went to kidney infection.

So after MUCH research, this is what I did. I basically followed the Hallelujah Diet (not sure if you heard of it). Mostly raw diet with no processed foods or sugar.
We continued to have carrot/celery juice and barley green. My son had 1 grapefruit a day (he stayed away from sweet fruits). I didn't have any fruit.
He had to eat some veggies steamed because his tummy couldn't handle anything for a minute. We also stayed away from any grains (soaked or not).
We also did not eat a lot of nuts. Really, it was a very bland diet for about 2 months, but it really helped. We felt so much better and were able to add in more things as we went along ;):)

I hope some of this helps.
Cathy :)

[iluvmangos]

Thank you!!

I really wish there was a sure fire way to know what route to take.

I have done so much research, and so many say to cut out ANY and ALL sugars, including fruit.

But then there are the ones on here, and in the book 80-10-10, that says it's the fat that causes the problem.

I really need to do something, and do it now.
But I'm so torn on what to do.
I guess just pick one and see if it helps?
If I was to choose which one I wanted, it would be the no fats, and still be able to do the fruit. BUT, I want the one that will work, and not just because I want to give up my fruit.

I'm having a horrible flare up right now, I have not had a vaginal yeast infection in years, but I have one now.
I'm also having severe problems in my intestines, and gut.
No thrush in my mouth, and no skin problems (except my big toe has some itchy red bumps), just my gut and my womanly area.
I'm trying to figure if it's truly a yeast infection or if I have a bladder infection. I think I will treat it like it's a bladder infection, just in case, and then also treat my body for a yeast overgrowth.

Could someone tell me what they would do if this was them? What foods would you eat, and what herbs or supplements would you take? I can't mess around with this, with my gastroparesis, and my small bowel motility disorder, I could be in a huge mess.

So, should I try the fruit and low fat, or cut out the fruit?

I did a search, and read a bunch of the past post on this, but like I said there is so many different opinions :( But I want the opinion that will really work :D

Thank you!!
Cathy


Somehow I missed this post earlier. If you try low-fat, I don't believe you'll be disappointed in how it takes care of your candida. All I can say is it worked for me and I truly believe that you can have your fruit and eat it, too.

If veggies bother you, then don't eat them. Lots of people don't. I rarely eat veggies anymore. I say as long as you can eat fruit and greens, you're good to go, but if you're concerned about deficiencies from not eating veggies then get your blood tested every now and then. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[rawstrength]

You need to create a good, healthy ecology in your gut in order to beat candida. This means taking cultured, pro-biotic rich foods everyday, preferably at every meal. Things like saur kraut, beet kvass, water kefir, kombucha, amazake and real lacto-fermented pickles (like Bubbies). So start brewing! You can get the water kefir grains and a kombucha scoby from www.kefirlady.com . The good bacteria and yeasts should crowd out the bad yeast (candida).

Coconut oil is perfect for fighting candida.

Use stevia to sweeten tea/smoothies instead of honey.

I would also buy some pao d'arco bark from www.mountainroseherbs.com. It's the cheapest and most effective anti-candida supplement. Take a quarter cup of the pao d'arco bark, and boil it in a quart of water. Then strain out the bark, sweeten the tea with stevia, and drink. Drink your pao d'arco everyday, and candida will go away!

[donnyandcathy]

Thank you for the suggestions.
I did get some Pao d' arco tea at my health food store, and I got just the plain bark, so I will steep it like you suggested.
I will also look into the cultured foods as well.
I have some of the good coconut oil, and I already use Stevia, so that's good.

Iluvmangos, I tried to eat a salad tonight, and my stomach just wouldn't let me.
I did fine with the fruit, and the green smoothie. But what I'm wondering about is for supper, I want to have something more filling than fruit, and I don't want to drink my meal. Any ideas?

Cathy, yes I have heard of and have done the Hallelujah Diet several years ago, and did have success with it. My whole family did it, but back then we only had 2 kids, and it was a lot easier. I do have their book, and I liked some of their raw recipes.

Again, thanks for all your support!!!
Cathy

[iluvmangos]

Iluvmangos, I tried to eat a salad tonight, and my stomach just wouldn't let me.
I did fine with the fruit, and the green smoothie. But what I'm wondering about is for supper, I want to have something more filling than fruit, and I don't want to drink my meal. Any ideas?


Can you eat zucchini? If so, you could spiralize it and make a tomato marinara sauce and have raw spaghetti. Also, one or two pieces of fruit may not be very filling, but a few would. Eat as much fruit as satisfies you. Mono eating is easier on the digestion, but if you want to mix your fruits, at least combine them properly. Don't mix sweet fruits with acid fruits and remember to always eat melons alone.

[iluvmangos]

donnyandcathy,

Here are a couple excellent videos on food combining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvdU3NNoT68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gumnUgldOr0

[donnyandcathy]

Thanks for the sites on food combining.
I have a chart that I go by, so I think I've been combining o.k.

As for the zucchini spaghetti, I have a spiral cutter that I got just for that reason, but the problem is I can't do tomatoes. :( It really burns my stomach, and I try to stay away from all night shades due to my fibromyalgia. So no tomato sauce for me. What about another type sauce?
Anyone have any good ideas, but keep it low fat, so not a lot of nuts or seeds.

I'm really trying to make this work, but like I said last night, I couldn't eat the salad that I had made. I got half way through it, then just picked the avocados off of it.

I'm fine during the day with fruit, and green smoothies, but then when it gets to be supper time, I'm craving salt and fat. It's almost like I want to grab the jar of Veganase (vegan mayo) and just eat spoonfuls out of it. :mad:


Cathy

[iluvmangos]

I'm fine during the day with fruit, and green smoothies, but then when it gets to be supper time, I'm craving salt and fat. It's almost like I want to grab the jar of Veganase (vegan mayo) and just eat spoonfuls out of it. :mad:

Remember when you first went raw and you craved cooked foods? Treat these cravings like that. It's gonna take some perseverance. When you feel like eating the bad stuff, eat more fruit or drink some water. Maybe go on a walk if you're not truly hungry. Whatever it takes to get your mind off the bad stuff.

[hilarya_m]

If you are experiencing vag. candid or skin fungus, take mountain oregano oil in capsule form. I was plagued by candida for years on and off and it spiked when I started taking BC pills, just went crazy, mood, fatigue, infection, stomach, the whole 9 yards of symptoms.

I did a candida cleanse diet with no sugar, processed foods, vinegar or fungus (mushrooms) on which I could eat green apples and carrots too. I also took wild mountain oregano (must have carvacol in it for antifungal) and knocked it out.

If I feel a flare up of any symptom, I immediately take one capsule and I haven't had any candida problems since. It's very strong stuff though so don't take it on an empty stomach.

[donnyandcathy]

Doing good so far today!!

I've had cantaloupe this morning, and then a BIG green smoothie with Mango, Pineapple, Cherries, Chia Fiber, a bunch of Cilantro, and a bunch of Spinach, and when I say a bunch, I mean a bunch :D
It made me feel really full, and I love the taste of Cilantro.

We have a busy afternoon, so I'm not sure what I will eat later. I bought a nice big watermelon, I could always cut that up. I have some bananas, papaya, apples, mango, and another cantaloupe. So I'm sure I could eat some more fruit, or make another green smoothie.

I love this board!!!
Cathy

[katchmoleen]

Cathy, have you ever visited Curezone (http://curezone.com/)? It is a huge natural health website with a gazillion different forums on every disorder imaginable. I just went and searched both gastroparesis and candida and got a ton of hits. You can see what others have tried and found to work, or not work.

[katchmoleen]

I am down with a tummy flu bug so have time on my hands and I did a little research and found that beet kvass (fermented beet juice) was recommended both for gastroparesis AND candida. I detest beets but would choke it down if I thought it would help!

http://editor.nourishedmagazine.com.au/articles/beet-kvass

Note that there is lots of interesting discussion on this page, including some vegan options to use water kefir rather than whey to make the kvass. Also you could make almond milk yogurt and use the whey from that.

[donnyandcathy]

WOW, thanks so much Katchmoleen!!!!
I pray you get better very soon, those stomach bugs are no fun at all :(
I wish you lived closer and I would bring you something yummy for your tummy :D

I will check this out, and let you know what I find out.

Praying you have a restful night!!!
Cathy

[VeGenesis]

Not sure about amount of fat a day but coconut oil is profound for candida !!!!

Be careful with this. Consuming coconut oil seems to kill off the candida in the gut, but many people have a rebound effect. If you know of someone who has been fighting candida issues for a long time, any oil may be the reason.

Topical application of coconut oils to candida problem areas can greatly relieve symptoms.

Our group have found that consuming low fat is most effective for long term systemic candida relief. However, if you want to knock candida out of your life, use low fat combined with coconut water tibicos (kefir). I found this in a couple pages in a wonderful book called "Coconut Water" by Dr. Bruce Fife.

I have also suffered from loose bowels due to Celiac Disease and the combination of low fat and coconut water tibicos has completely solved this for me.

It is wonderful being free of both the runs and candida! :)