miso?

[katrina]

How bad is miso for me? I'm using a little of the fermented kind that looks like a paste. I've been buying Red Miso. I make it with hot water from the tap - not boiling water. It's awesome. And it's really the one non-raw food I'm clinging to.

Does anyone else eat this regularly?

[tvillemom]

I'm kinda new, but miso is in several recipes I've gotten from RAW books. Hope someone will chime in and say it's OK :o ...as for me...I love it too.
Wendi

[Punky]

How bad is miso for me? I'm using a little of the fermented kind that looks like a paste. I've been buying Red Miso. I make it with hot water from the tap - not boiling water. It's awesome. And it's really the one non-raw food I'm clinging to.

Does anyone else eat this regularly?

Hello Katrina!
Lots of folks here on the boards use *fermented* miso in their living foods preperation/recipes. It is considered a living food rather than a raw
food...if that makes sense to you. It is along the same lines as Nama Shoya.
Even though Nama Shoya is *cooked* it is fermented giving it lots of living
enzymes and good bacteria. So enjoy it guilt free
:)

[katrina]

Hello Katrina!
Lots of folks here on the boards use *fermented* miso in their living foods preperation/recipes. It is considered a living food rather than a raw
food...if that makes sense to you. It is along the same lines as Nama Shoya.
Even though Nama Shoya is *cooked* it is fermented giving it lots of living
enzymes and good bacteria. So enjoy it guilt free
:)
Thank you so much for this info! I use Braggs Liquid Aminos also and had wondered about it too. Now I can enjoy these wonderful foods...GUILT FREE! You made my day!

[Punky]

Thank you so much for this info! I use Braggs Liquid Aminos also and had wondered about it too. Now I can enjoy these wonderful foods...GUILT FREE! You made my day!

Katrina,
there are some past threads if you use the search function
on Braggs being questionable...I think it *may* have naturally occuring MSG in
it?!?!? Just thought I would inform you and you can make your own choice from there...I use it minimally in my diet so I don't worry about it much...
I use celtic sea salt for most of my salty seasoning.
I don't remember miso having this problem though...just Braggs and Nama Shoya...correct me if I am mistaken anyone...

[Cinnamon]

How does everyone prepare their miso? Just add a teaspoon to a cup of water and blend? Or make a soup out of it with veggies?

I'd like to add this to my diet and am not sure how to use it! Thanks!

[Arky]

When it comes to soy, fermented is healthier than unfermented, but you should still exercise caution when consuming any soy-based products. Soy influences hormone and thyroid function - it is not a wonderfood! More elsewhere on this board, if you care to delve deeper.

In short, it is fine to consume small quanities of soy, provided it is fermented, but unwise to consume it regularly or in large quantities, and one should certainly avoid unfermented items.

This is contentious, but if you delve deeper, both here and on the net, you will find the rationale behind the arguments against soy consumption vs the propoganda of the soy industry. Read wisely and choose wisely :)


J.

[katrina]

I put a good-sized spoon full in a the warm water and blend well. Afterwards, I add a generous amount of dulse and let it soften up and then BOTTOMS UP! YUM!


I'm going to try addign wakame next. :)

[Ginger]

I prefer the soy-free chick pea miso myself. If you get some, try it mixed with a little tahini & a tiny bit of water to make a thick dressing for sunflower sprouts, it's HEAVEN!

[SamuelWilson]

katrina, I like miso to. I like the red because it has a stronger flavor. I use it my clear japanese soup. Well I used to. I am fruitarian now, so no miso for me. I just had to say something though, it really helps may some great soups.

[Mike]

I love the miso made by South River Miso.

http://www.southrivermiso.com

Here's a great miso article=

http://lists.topica.com/lists/howweheal/read/message.html?mid=806073069

Radiation: Miso for the body/rock dust for the soil, virtues of....

...As a food, miso can be thought of as an all-purpose and delicious seasoning for flavoring soups and vegetable dishes, or for making salad dressings, sauces and spreads. ...

...An excellent source of digestive enzymes, friendly bacteria, essential amino
acids, vitamins (including vitamin B-12), easily assimilated protein (twice as
much as meat or fish and 11 times more than milk) and minerals, miso is low in
calories and fat. It breaks down and discharges cholesterol, neutralizes the
effects of smoking and environmental pollution, alkalinizes the blood and
prevents radiation sickness. Miso has been used to treat certain types of heart disease and cancer. ...

...Thanks to nuclear accidents and leakage worldwide, we may be exposed to ionizing radiation as well. In the decades since the first atomic bombings, scientists have confirmed that miso (as well as sea vegetables) help protect the body from radiation by binding and discharging radioactive elements. Two
weeks after the Chernobyl nuclear accident, all miso and seaweed disappeared
from European store shelves...."

[Punky]

Thanks Mike for the info!
The South River Miso looks good! I am going to try some for sure...
for some reason I always assumed miso had wheat in it???
I am so glad to find some that do not (avoiding wheat & gluten); lots of wheat free choices here--yaa!

[rawpriestess]

I'm with Rawveganmom, I ONLY use chic pea miso, I never use the soy based any more.

Cinnamon, I don't make soup, although I'm sure it's good, I use it to make my toona and portable lasagna, and some other recipes, it adds a very nice flavor

I know that Vegan vixen uses miso alot, you may choose to PM her.

[katrina]

Mike thank you so much for that info. That was very helpful. I have started adding a little spoonful of red miso to mashed avocado and spreading it on flax crackers and a new flat bread recipe I made up. It imparts a lovely flavor!


Thanks again!

[VeganVixen]

they dont call me miss miso fer nuthin' ;)


yeah I now only use chick pea and adzuki bean red river miso - it makes miso happy :)

[Ginger]

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[VeganVixen]

hee hee , yep - I HAD to add that corny line :rolleyes:

[RawTruth]

... I guess I'll do it. Sigh. I've got a long needle out amidst the balloons of this bliss fest. Sorry!

So, here goes ...

If yu're interested in being all raw, miso, Nama Shoyu, and other non-raw foods are best viewed only as transition foods, not as permanent residents in your kitchen. They're helpful when you firsr go raw, but, eventually, it's most likely that you'll turn away from them. And, when that happens, it'll be best for your health. I am not telling you not to eat them now ... just a reminder that they're not part of a raw & living food lifestyle even though they do appear in some raw recipe books. After the "introductory phase" of being all raw (which differs in length with each person), you'll naturally begin turning away from frequent prepared raw gourmet dishes and eat almost all simple, straightforward foods -- even mono eating. There's no place there for these processed foods. In some people's cases, they leave those behind completely and stop eating the cuisine mixtures. Again, I'm not trying to burst your bubbles, and you probably all know this already, but ... I just didn't want newbies to read this thread and start drinking miso every day thinking that tit's part of a raw & living diet. As Arky said so very well ... and much more concisely than I: If you must use it it is unwise to consume it regularly or in large quantities.

Soy products, especially, should be used in minute quanitities if you must use them -- not even in "moderation" because they're so bad for us (yes, I know that advertising has convinced us otherwise -- and the study on the traditional Japanese diet has been used to promote massive soy intact -- daily -- when actually they eat soy minimally).

As to guilt-free ... I don't believe that we should feel guilty about what we eat. Inform youself about whatever food you're eating or considering eating. Then eat it or don't eat it. After that, don't look back with regret. Guiltand regret only cause stress and give food sort of a sense of negative importance.

My very best wishes to you all on your path to raw radiance.

[deedub]

here as I see it, one is the consumption of soy which is being linked to problems especially with woman. I won't go into it, most people know what's what on that and I am no expert. The other issue is fermentation of foods that have been cooked. It is my understanding that many raw and living foodist include these foods in thier diet. Actually the only ones I know of are Kombucha and non soy miso. There does not seem to be any one way to be a raw and living foodist. Research and personal experience seem to be key.