Diabetes from eating raw????

[princess tonya]

Ok so we've been doing 90-95% raw since Monday. My dh isn't, but he does try and like everything I make. My skin is clearing up which is amazing and my dd loves almost everything we have. We all loved the zucchini noodles and marinara (so much that my dh bought about 8 zucchini last night so we could have it again today).

My only problem I'm having is that when I talk to my mil about it (she's really into health and nutrition) she keeps telling me that I'm going to give my dd diabetes from all the sugar in the fruit. When I told her that for breakfast we like to grate an apple and chop a banana then mix them with some cinnamon, she got very upset and said that it's too much sugar and told me I needed to mix some brown rice in with it. She keeps telling me that I need to give her brown rice and eggs.

Has anyone heard of getting diabetes from too much fruit on a raw food diet??? It seems silly to ask, but I know that I don't know everything. So I figured I might as well ask.

[Veganforlife]

Obviously your MIL isn't into health and nutrition as much as she's making herself and everyone else believe. That is totally nuts to even think one can GET diabetes from eating Raw. How silly! This is how we humans are supposed to eat. Add rice and eggs? Why? Have you questioned her? And you can read here and show her how many, many, MANY folks have cured themselves of diabetes BY eating Raw.

It's just silly thinking...HER thinking.

That's as stupid as when severely obese folks tell me my diet is not healthy.

hello?

[princess tonya]

She keeps telling me that all the sugar from the fruit will do it. That sugar from fruit is sugar and the body will treat it as such. She really does mean well.

[Veganforlife]

She might mean well, but she has her facts screwed up - my opinion.

[DwightLight]

Ahh family... always worried about everyone but themselves... I've got a grandmother and aunt hounding me about eating raw as well. Don't take my word for it... just ask Will Smith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O4sSZc2WCU

[iluvmangos]

No, no, no! Fruit will NOT give you diabetes and certainly do NOT mix rice with the fruit. Fruit should be eaten alone. I'm sure she means well, but she's wrong. As a diabetic, I eat lots of fruit and my blood sugar is fine. Ugh! I just HATE fruit demonization!

[Seedy]

In the first place, sugar doesn't cause diabetes, being overweight does. Too much fat in the body's cells prevents insulin from pushing glucose into the cells like a blocked door. The sugar is trapped in the blood where it causes damage to nerves. Clean the fat out of the cells and sugar no longer becomes a problem. In the second place, the sugar in fruit is digested slower than purified table sugar, because the fiber and protein in the fruit (yes even fruit has protein) slows the digestion down so that there is no sugar spike. I watched a program by Dr. Neal Barnard on PBS the other night on reversing diabetes and he discussed that except for watermelon and pineapple (which are high on the glycemic index), diabetics could eat as much fruit as they like so long as they eat a low-fat vegan diet. The only problems come when a person first switches over from SAD. Initailly overweight diabetics people need to start out on a low-fat low-fruit diet until their cells have a chance to clean the fat out, then they too can eat as much fruit as they want.
Seedy

[iluvmangos]

I just ate 4 bananas (3 medium, one small, 104 carbs) a couple hours ago. Before the meal, my blood sugar was 115 and two hours later it was 112. A few nights ago, I ate half a large watermelon. Before the meal, my blood sugar was 106. Two hours later it was 134, which is still considered normal as most say 140 or less is normal 2 hours after a meal, but some say it should be 120 or less.

I learned blood sugar should be 140 or less 2 hours after a meal from the Mayo Clinic website and the diabetes class I took when I was first diagnosed, but the doc who actually diagnosed me said it really should be 120 or less, so I guess it just depends who ya ask and what you wanna believe. I tend to believe the more conservative numbers.

When I ate the watermelon, I actually ate more than I was hungry for just so I could see how much my blood sugar could really handle. It was just kind of a weird experiment I was doing on myself. I don't recommend everyone doing that, but it's what I chose to do. I believe that if I actually ate only what I was hungry for, my blood sugar would have been 120 or less.

I believe eating low-fat helps my blood sugar control. I couldn't eat so much fruit at one time before low-fat. I spaced them out more. Now I don't worry about it as long as I only eat what I'm truly hungry for.

So, if fruit is so bad and causes diabetes, then I should be in a diabetic coma by now. :)

[Veganforlife]

I think too being on a 100% Raw diet diabetes is kept at bay or under control or totally healed. Most of us were not born with these dis-eases, we've created them. Contrary to popular belief too MOST dis-eases are not hereditary. We've created them.

Eating Raw can cure and heal.

I know. I'm living proof.

And Alissa has a whole slew of testimonies in her book showing this.

[SevenKindsOfCookie]

I'd say that fruit can certainly cause a problem if you are adding too much of it on top of a standard diet. Especially if that diet includes bad fats (heated and processed vegetable oils for example).
I don't believe that they will cause much of a problem on the raw diet for most people. However, I am personally very sensitive to sugar and too much fruit makes me feel awful, similar to eating processed sugars actually. But I'd say that you have to trust your body on that one.
But getting diabetes on the raw diet? I'm sure it can happen if you work hard for it and ignore your body.

[Aleesha Sattva]

But getting diabetes on the raw diet? I'm sure it can happen if you work hard for it and ignore your body.

not even remotely possible. nope. *shakes head* not a chance.

eating raw cures diabetes it doesn't cause it. i know... i was diabetic and i'm not anymore.

watch some of the amazing movies out that discuss this very topic...

here's one for ya! click here (http://www.timelessspirit.com/JAN09/review1.shtml)

[juliebove]

You do NOT get diabetes from eating sugar. I can't believe how many people seem to think that.

When I was diagnosed with diabetes, apparently I had a big bowl of candy on my coffee table. I don't remember it, but I may well have had it. I have a few really pretty candy dishes and I used to like filling them with colorful hard candy because I liked the way the light would catch it. I didn't eat the stuff, but visitors may have had some every once in a while. I would change it out every few months, just in case. I know of a couple of people who kept candy dishes and the candy was always covered with dust. Blech!

Anyway... My parents used to tell me that I got diabetes from all that candy. Riiiiight.

That being said... If there is a family history of diabetes, then eating too much in the way of carbs can cause blood sugar issues and perhaps bring on diabetes sooner than it may have come otherwise.

So here's what my diet was when I was first diagnosed with gestational diabetes. Beans and rice. Beans and pasta. Air popped popcorn. All sorts of vegetables. Not too much fruit. Never really liked fruit. Still don't. Occasional eggs, cheese and bread. Some nuts. Some olives. But pretty much a low fat diet that was very high in carbs. When I look up the carb counts of the meals I ate in those days they were 80 grams or more per meal! Now as a diabetic, the most I can handle is about 45 grams (not counting non-starchy vegetables) and that's later in the day. The body is the most insulin resistant in the morning and many of us find we have to eat less carbs then.

Are there carbs in fruit? Certainly! But not all fruit is created equal. Some fruits are lower in carbs. That would be most berries, grapefruit, cranberries and some melon. I find that pears and apples work well for me in terms of blood sugar, but I still don't eat them too often because they are not favorite foods.

And then there are the fruits that we tend to think of as vegetables. Tomatoes, cucumbers, eggplant and the like. They're not overly high in carbs.

Fruits that are probably the highest in carbs are oranges, bananas, grapes, cherries and most dried fruits, merely because they are concentrated because all the water has been removed.

So... Does diabetes run in your family? If it does, then it would be best to watch the carb intake (not necessarily fruit but all carbs in general), keep weight in check (if you can) and get plenty of exercise.

Of course nobody can tell you what the right amount of carbs for your body (or your daughter) is. My dad and brother both have diabetes and both of them seem to be able to eat a LOT more carbs than I can. Every body is different.

And if diabetes does run in your family then certainly be sure to be tested for it on a regular basis.

[lucindara]

Is it possible to have diabetes without having excessive thirst or urination? After looking up diabetes, I think I have several of the symptoms, but I don't think I have excessive thirst or excessive urination. Does this mean that I probably don't have diabetes?
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[SevenKindsOfCookie]

Is it possible to have diabetes without having excessive thirst or urination?
After looking up diabetes, I think I have several of the symptoms, but I don't think I have excessive thirst or excessive urination. Does this mean that I probably don't have diabetes?

What kind of symptoms do you have? Do you have diabetes in your family?

[Veganforlife]

What kind of symptoms do you have? Do you have diabetes in your family?

Just because diabetes or other dis-eases "run" in one's family does not mean you will get it. We create these dis-eases. We can cure them too.

[freshlight]

diabetes from fruit???? hahahahaha, thanks for the laugh :D You got some good answers already, that's why I'll just lean back and keep laughing:D:D:D