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Secret Heart
08-19-2005, 06:19 AM
Hello,

I know tooth looseness has been mentioned in another thread, but I don't eat a lot of acidic fruits (though I do eat a lot of fruit) and I only eat dried fruit maybe twice a week...could it be lack of calcium? I also notice that my bones generally crack a heck of a lot more than they used to. Any advice?
Thanks!

Heather

sweetgoddess
08-19-2005, 09:05 AM
Secret Heart, it may be helpful for you to read through this thread where this is discussed and much advice is given. I was going to cut and paste but realized it would be easier to just direct you there.
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5569&highlight=teeth+david+wolfe

Silicon Rich Foods ( for strong bones and teeth)
Hemp, horsetail, nettles, mature blades of grass ( found often in Superfood powders), radish, nopal cactus, romaine lettuce, marjoram, new zealand spinach, burdock root, cucumber skin, bell pepper skin, tomato skin, young green plants, oats"

~Taken from Eating for Beauty by David Wolfe

Hope this helps! :)

Arky
08-19-2005, 09:20 AM
Before I say what I am about to say, I want to make it clear that what follows is only one possibility, not any attempt, on my part, at a diagnosis, so please don't fret and think the worst, ok?! ;)


A recognised symptom of lack of calcium is loosening of the teeth (specifically pertaining to decalcification of the jaw).

My teeth are not loose as far as I am aware, but my bones (or rather, my joints) do 'crack', as you put it, quite a bit. I drew the conclusion, quite some time ago, that in my case this is very probably due to a combination of factors including lack of (sustained and regular) weight-bearing exercise, poor dietary choices in the past, contributing to leaching of calcium from my body ('SAD', carbonated drinks, excessive vitamin A intake from multivitamin supplements etc), and to inadequate mineral intake from wise food choices (i.e. too few dark green leafies etc.). Add to this, an over-enthusiasm, since childhood, for members of the nightshade family, including white potatoes and tomatoes, which contain alkaloids (particularly concentrated towards the outer skin) detrimental to joint (esp. cartilage) health, if eaten in quantity.

I would advise that you have yourself checked for calcium deficiency. Again, I stress this is not the only possible cause of your stated symptoms but it would be a good place to begin eliminating possible causes.

In the meantime, it would be wise to increase your intake of bone-nourishing nutrients. As you may already be aware, milk is one of the least effective dietary sources of calcium (the calcium is bound with casein which the human digestive system struggles to break down) and dark green leafies are one of the best sources - e.g. Kale etc.

You've probably already read them, but just in case, do check out these threads, amongst others (this forum is a true mine of information!:)):

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5540&highlight=teeth

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5127

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823&highlight=teeth

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5569&highlight=teeth

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5389


HTH.

J.

Arky
08-19-2005, 09:31 AM
...romaine lettuce, marjoram, new zealand spinach, burdock root, cucumber skin, bell pepper skin, tomato skin, young green plants..."

~Taken from Eating for Beauty by David Wolfe

Hope this helps! :)


For the most part, I think that is excellent advice, but I'd suggest, in light of the remark about 'cracking bones' (which I take to mean joints that click and 'crack' during movement), it would be very wise to avoid bell pepper skin and tomato skin since these are very concentrated sources of solanine/tropane alkaloids, which inhibit effective regeneration of joint cartilage.

On the subject of romaine lettuce, I very regularly chew this after consuming fruits. I made this a habit after reading an article by Frederic Patenaude in 'Get Fresh! Magazine (Vol 2, Issue 6, pp.50-51), on tooth health on a raw food diet.


All the best,

J.

Secret Heart
08-19-2005, 10:08 AM
Thank-you all very much for your advice. I agree..I think it's calcium...

Thanks again!

Heather

theresaann
08-19-2005, 11:16 AM
one word: ALKALINZE!!

Arky
08-19-2005, 02:08 PM
one word: ALKALINZE!!

Yes, absolutely, an 'acidic' body will cause the body to leach calcium from the bones in order to remain at the ideal pH of 7.4. This is one reason why I mentioned carbonated drinks - they have a tendency to 'acidify' the body.

Good advice, theresaann :)

J.

Secret Heart
08-19-2005, 03:22 PM
I don't think I have an acidic body by and large...I don't drink coffee or pop and eat tonnes of fruit and veg..no prescription meds and pretty low stress levels...I thought I was doing ok!

Thanks for your suggestions...

Heather

Arky
08-19-2005, 05:37 PM
Fair enough - it's only one of many possible contributory factors.






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Leaning 2004 - I like the dominance of the light and texture of the wall; the relative enormity and solidity of it in comparison to the girl

Melissa 2002 - I find this picture very calming and tranquil

Lisa (June) 2004 - the brickwork lends a nice textured backdrop to Lisa herself

The Striped Curtain - really like the choice of perspective

Insomnia 2004 - I just like it, don't know exactly why

Anne 2004 - very calming

Illustration for Dogs In Canada Magazine - great pose and expression on the dogs face!


I think you are a very talented artist. I know next to nothing of art but there is something about your brushstrokes, and the way you portray light on skin, that, to me at least, is slightly reminiscent of some of the work of The Brothers Hildebrandt, whose paintings I am a huge admirer of.


J.

Secret Heart
08-19-2005, 07:53 PM
Thanks very much Arky(J), I really appreciate your feedback. Thank-you for taking the time to have a look!

All the best,

Heather

Arky
10-13-2005, 09:55 AM
Heather, back to your original topic, I have been reading a lot, recently, on the subject of dental health (as has Truthseeker). I sincerely recommend you check out the following documents as they contain very relevant information for you which make them well worth the small investment:

mizar5.com/mm.html

Also, you may find some useful info here, but please do read the above .pdf(s):

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6481&highlight=tooth+soap


J.

rawpriestess
10-13-2005, 11:17 AM
Secret Heart,

If you think you need more calcium, eat sesame seeds, or eat tahini, or drink sesame milk,

Also, if you have a calcium deficiency you will probably crave sweets, as calcium is sweet in natural foods.

I learned this from Victoria Boutenko, who used to crave dates, couldn't get enough, hummmm Kind of like my Dragggon (will have to look into that) anyway, then she heard of the sesame milk, so she started making sesame milk every day and added dates to it, to make it pallatable for her, each day she found herself adding less and less dates, until one day, she didn't even care for dates anymore, they were too sweet for her, voila'

How cool is that? no more sweet cravings, and she started feeling way better.

So, if you think it's calcium, you might try sesame milk with dates.

Oh, and by the way, the creeking that we hear when our joints move, has nothing to do with bones cracking, it is a loss of lubrication in our joints caused by not enough clear, pure water in our diets.

truthseeker
10-13-2005, 02:13 PM
Read the last paragraph under:

GUM AND NECK OF THE TOOTH PROBLEMS......

here - http://mizar5.com/omedchn.htm

Got this following info from NoGMO
- Thanks NoGMO I haven't gotten to bed befor 2 am for about 3 days now with all the reading you've provided me with....I LOVE IT!-

Scroll down to almost to the bottom of this page, and under
"For More Information on this Topic"
click on the Ph Balancing Simplified link and LISTEN !!!!! GREAT INFO there and on the other audio link on calcium and alkaline/acid balance:

http://www.naturalhealthschool.com/acid-alkaline.html

YES ALKALIZE !!!

theresaann and Arky are right on! GREAT INFO GUYS !!!

Arky
10-13-2005, 03:29 PM
Got this following info from NoGMO
- Thanks NoGMO I haven't gotten to bed befor 2 am for about 3 days now with all the reading you've provided me with....I LOVE IT!-


If you come across any other stuff, be sure to pass on the links ;)


BTW, I take it that means you haven't had time to read throught the mizar .PDFs? Really interesting reading, for me at least.


J.

truthseeker
10-13-2005, 05:02 PM
Not all of it Arky, I've been going back and fro between the two.

Because of a friend who's come to me with questions on the raw food diet and alkalizing and anything else I know about cancer.....her husband is dying. I've never had anyone with such a serious problem want to pick my brain so MUCH...that's ok though, I'm happy to share the information I have. I told her straight out that I am not a doctor in any way shape or form and can not give her medical advice....but that I would show her the material that I have collected and come across. Do you know what she said to me????? She said, "All I want to know is what would you do if you, your husband or one of your babies came down with cancer." .... No pressure there.

So I've been busy sending her the pages and links I've come across that are relevant. Reading about teeth and oral health inbetween cleaning messes, making raw meals, snacks and homeschooling !!!!!


MAN......I....L...O...V...E......MY JOB !!!

Arky
10-13-2005, 06:48 PM
That's an awful lot of pressure :rolleyes:...I guess the Gerson high-juice stuff would be a good place to start


J.